Why all of Latin America failed and now is a shithole, while USA and Canada thrive?

Why all of Latin America failed and now is a shithole, while USA and Canada thrive?

What's the explanation of this?

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We were white, once. . .

because white people are smarter than us

America and Canada are white.

Because we bred with slaves, no multicultural or multiracial country can prosper or survive for long. America and Canada are not prospering either, they are going down the same path we went through in the 19th century, and the civnats and reactionaries will pay the price for not preventing shitskins from taking over their countries.

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Because socialism.

latin america was colonized by Creepy Uncle Spain not Big Daddy Britain.

Because when professionals are made into slaves, they leave and the country goes to shit.
John Galt mutherfuger.

cuba was the most thriving nation in latin america before castro

communism fucked cuba..it could have been glorious. by chance the population was probably the least racist of any country in the northern hemisphere too...aside from "oye mi negro" banter and shit like that, no one gave a shit, the racism was friendly (always true racists, but less than other countries)

Because socialists are inherently gullible and stupid.

1. Shit institutions.

2. Race mixing.

3. Not genociding the natives. (See point 2)

BINGO!

Intelligence.

Brown people

>the most thriving nation
>literacy rate below 50%

this is what bourgs really believe

Speak for yourself.

We did genocide the natives and still we are shit, a part of the problem must be the Spanish system, it was pretty shit for us, but enough time has passed, we have no excuses. Except the fucking lefties that manage to ruin everything they touch.
We need another condor plan.

yo, my grandpa dropped out of 5th grade, and he owed a huge shirt business and had two decent properties in cuba.

no need to read and write when half the country liked you and bought your shit.

>wasn't educated
>still rich

hpw's that 99.8% literacy rate working out for cuba, they thriving?

Everything the jews are doing with europe and north america, they already did 100 years ago here.


Marxism, communist terrorism, anti-nationalism, decreasing birth rates, promoting mestizo migrants, etc.

i meant this post for you

I don't know much about latin america, but I wonder if acceleration of territory growth had anything to do with it.

In the US we didn't sprawl out through the west of the country for near a century. The northeast served as a standard hub that grew to modern times or even surpassed technology in europe.

it was only then that we expanded into the west through manifest destiny for the most part.

I imagine, and I don't know how latin america was colonized, but the speed at which they tried to conquer the land might have spread our their great society too much.

Argentina is a special case. It seemingly had everything to succeed: good weather, resources, white people, yeomen farmers. I don't know what went so wrong.

Maybe the distance to markets? Even Australia has China and SE Asia. Argentina is just far from every important market.

Genetics, whites are superior and Brazil is 10,000 shades of nigger. White power

race mixing in cuba brought cuisine that would make you orgasm from food for the first time, plenty different genres of music stemming from african and spaniard music rhythms/traditions/instruments, and a friendly warm culture

don't forget cuban cigars and cuban rum contributed to america's wealth in the mid 20th century

socialism and marxism happened my friend, same thing that is happening in the west right now

Drugs, US intervention, communist insurrections, and, frankly, dumb people.

Russia had lower rates at the turn of the last century to the fifties.

every single country the subhuman russians got their jewish claws into has turned into an absolute shit hole

>liked you

that`s why castro was succesful with his revolt, and bourgs in pig bay sucked

my grandpa was actually for the revolution, but dipped in 1961 cuz castro was crazy

bay of pigs could have been won if kennedy allowed the air strike

We need WW3 again and Europe to burn to the ground.

Then we'll get actual white migrants again instead of colombian drug dealers, peruvian rapists and bolivian thieves.

Want a serious answer?

Because your culture is inferior. I'm not kidding, your belief sets don't praise achievement like we do, nor does it promote the family unit and national pride.

That's the factor you (and many others) lack. If you want your country to be successful (in terms of how the U.S. defines it's success), I strongly suggest you emulate what got us to that point.

We're doing that now too, because we tried to live as you live, when in reality, your culture is just shit.

Sorry.

Yeah, but we're talking about development here. I love Jazz and Salsa as much as any men. But I would give it all away to have decent institutions and a wealthy country.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likbez

> By 1939, however, male literacy was at 90.8 and female literacy had increased to 72.5%. According to the 1939 Soviet Census, literate people were 89.7% (RSFSR, ages 9–49). During the 1950s, the Soviet Union had become a country of nearly 100% literacy.

mixed race

The half ape half human genome fucked us up

this

racemixing.

Because American intervention.

This is well-know my friend, but my question is

Why our culture is inferior? What's the reason behind it, i want to understand this

When did trudeau grow a beard and start smoking cigars?

the real reason: inferior people have inferior societies

the politically correct reason:
Something along these lines.

The best "Latin" country is Argentina, which also happens to be the country that got the most German/Italian immigrants. Surprise surprise.

The you take a country like Mexico that is a total shithole ruled by crime and its got a very low white %.With only about 12% even being able to claim white, and even then they are probably not pure. Pure coincidence I'm sure.

Because the brightest and most willing to create wealth migrated to USA and Canada, and keep migrating there

Meanwhile, the freeloaders migrated to the south cone and not even the freeloaders i.e. no one migrated to the rest of the countries

cuba was pretty wealthy with decent institutions though. pre-castro, their baseball and music culture alone brought in lots of money to cuba

>Why our culture is inferior? What's the reason behind it, i want to understand this
He just told you, you tard. Stop acting like sex-crazed monkeys and learn to form monogamous (one sexual partner per lifetime) family units.

just because it was the mere center of spanish mercantilism it does not mean it was the wealthiest of its colonies. It was just their most important port and choke point.

Why do fucking amerishits always refers with mexico as everything?

>monogamous (one sexual partner per lifetime) family units.
prefer to keep being latino then
besides, everywhere there's poligamy under the rug. only robots would accept monogamy as a duty

it was an independent nation since 1902 =, when it got the wealthiest

>prefer to keep being latino then
Well, yes. As uncle Adie once said: to each his own. Some people conquer continents, walk on the moon and invent global communication networks. Other people jerk their spunk into sluts.

> besides, everywhere there's poligamy under the rug.
In civilized countries kids usually learn that the "but the other guy did it too" excuse doesn't work before they start first grade.

>cuba was pretty wealthy with decent institutions though
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If Cuba had been wealthy (in the same sense that the US or Europe is wealthy) the revolution simply would have never taken hold. There were some slick hotels and resorts for Americans, but the farmers were dirt poor. And Batista was corrupt as fuck.

Was pre-revolution Cuba better than gommie-Cuba? Yeah, probably. But that's a pretty damn low bar you are putting there.

Are you talking about that school trip you did to Germany? No, not that one your great grandpa did back in the 40's

Idk man life sucks

No, I'm talking about the fact that you regressing back into an apelike condition is your own choice and I won't lift a finger to stop you.

>3. Not genociding the natives. (See point 2)
We genocided the natives, but replaced them with niggers that are even worse than natives.

give thanks to communism and military in power

The USA and Canada are thriving because of free-market free-enterprise capitalist (AKA right-wing) economics.

Here is one of the greatest free-market economists alive talking about what makes nations wealthy/poor
youtube.com/watch?v=ICsPQnGJEpY

This is another good video by him. This is on why low taxes spur economic growth
youtube.com/watch?v=RMhI-AQgYPU&t=7s

On the subject of culture, this answer is a lot more difficult to answer than economics.

One thing that I have heard is that Protestant Christians look to the future, but Catholic Christians fixate on the past.

Protestants plan for the future and work hard to make it the best it can be, whereas Catholics spend too much time dwelling on the past and tend to think that what happens in the future is preordained

Also the USA culture is a lot about being able to survive on your own, which comes from the settler/pioneer era when people were settling the wilderness

> I won't lift a finger to stop you.
No one needs you, m8. That's why you're here lurking and posting.

cuba prior to castro was better than most EU countries

Yeah. Were trying to turn the tide Brazil bro. Trump is the first step

Socialism fucked all your countries.

native genocides are a myth you retard that never happened we out bred them you know since the 1800s half of all natives who marry marry outside of their race usually to a white

the largest slaughter of natives in the usa were 300 executed by lincoln (without a trial) for crimes of raping and pillaging in north dakota

You should have ship them to Liberia after the Civil War.

cause you faggots do not into war.Your people do not get red pilled via war

cuba is a tiny island compared to those though...

regardless of what you've heard, cuba had a large middle class, a decent upper class, and the rest were dirt poor. not all farmers, and poor was mostly the city folks in havana. te problem was cuban government ignored the poor so they got poorer and lived terribly, and that was the extent of batista's corruptness

cuba was A LOT better under batista than castro. castro lied his way into power so it wasn't that the people were sick of the current government. as i said, my grandparents supported castro fully (along with everyone else) because they didn't know he'd turn out like that. and they were ignorant to communism

Essentially capitalism took its tole on Latin America and just fucked it up with tons of USA imperialism plus Pinochet and that one time a huge fruit company took over basically all of south America. Your being exploited by the USA its time to fight back!

>the revolution simply would have never taken hold
you are retarded the former dictator was supposed by the us when lefty america came into power they stopped supporting him and supported commie castro instead which is why he took power with a literal tiny band of men

if any of you fall for this bait you're a newfag
1/10 made me post

it's pretty good bait, most of it is partially true.

what my fellow country man is trying to state is that if some poorly armed fucks are capable to topple the government and attract a big mob of people to their crazy ass cause, then we're talking about a backwater country, not about that glorious Cuba someone here is talking about.

Because such a thing happens in an almost routinely basis in Africa.

Read Jose Martí's Nuestra America, it explains why Latin American governments failed during the 19th century. The failures of the 19th century led to awful decisions, violent transfers of power, and civil wars during the 20th century.

evil whitey stole all da gud shiet

we wuz kangz

Hi. thanks for the suggestion, i will check it out


i have a close friend that his entire family is composed by El salvador people, his parents ran for Brazil before he was born because civil war or something like this

He visited El Salvador 5 years ago and said the place is even shittier now because USA extradited all El Salvador gang members back to your country, and the place is now a cesspool of drugs and crime

is it the real truth?

>if this and if that
>because this because that

you don't understand the nature of politics in cuba. cuba WAS glorious before castro. best in latin america.

That's what happens when you do not kill the scum
Plus, a former guerrilla man is now president

It's definitely a cesspool of crime. I wouldn't say it's a "cesspool" of drugs though. Every once in a while you'll see something about drugs on the news, like trucks carrying shipments of weed but that's the only thing I can think of. Also what said is pretty much correct.

yes, and jose marti is a hero to cuban independence, cuba was fuckin great!

If it was so glorious Why did it fell to Castro's hands?

Germany fell to Hitler's hands because they were wrecked in WWI and so on.

I thought it was mainly economic. Lots of banana republics with elites that were locked into that system. It provided them with power but failed to develop or diversify their economies and led to endless squabbling. Then some of the rich kids decided going commie might work.

because castro was a charismatic idealist?
>we're gonna get everyone rich! no one will be poor ever again, the revolution will get rid of the dictatorship and i will bring true democracy to cuba!

batista fled the country. that's how they got into power. actually, castro was a prisoner of batista's at one point. all batista had to do was keep him in prison or kill him.

now that being said, the poor were stepped on, and i don't doubt that a lot of cubans felt that they had to get on batista's good side to really flourish..but there was a large chunk of the middle class. it wasn't miserable

Except I didn't recommend a piece of Cuban propaganda. The essay discusses the failure of Latin American governments to implement the knowledge of the natives, and their desire to emulate the Europeans. It's only a couple of pages long, you should read it too. It's actually very well-written and informative.

Hermano, nosotros sabemos muy bien que si tuvimos una gran época de genocidio a los nativos y en algunos casos los inmigrantes. Sobretodo Colombia, desde la masacre de las bananeras a incluso la época moderna, nuestra tierra siempre ha sido elitista y racista al punto en que la población no le tiembla el puño cuando se trata de limpiar cien mil o un millón de gente.
Pero mira a que nos ha llevado, uno diría que adoptar la filosofía correccionista que este board está llevando, nunca beneficia en la long run.
Mira la guerrilla, mira el estado en el que estamos en comparación con el resto del mundo, cuando gente llora y declara como tragedia histórica la muerte de 50 personas, nosotros suspiramos y agradecemos que no fueron mas.
El país que desarrolla insurgentes se condena, un insurgente con carácter de caudillo es capaz de mover masas como ningún gobierno puede.

The US was born as a nation that valued liberty, industry and commerce, hence why the north became so powerful even in the early 1800s.

Brazil turned into shit because its state was a copy of the portuguese's, which was ineffective to begin with, and had no desire to improve or to copy developed nations (like Japan did). we pretty much were happy by having a bunch of coffee and sugar to sell and buy shit. Also, we signed very bad trade treatises.

Not sure about Latin America. I think the caudillos have a responsibility there.

what i'm getting at is, jose marti understood, and he had a huge hand in cuban independence. it's only natural that cuba had the best start to independence in latin america

And what about the army? Did it fell because Castro spoke so beautiful? Did it fell because Batista ran away before they started to amount defeats to the barbudos?

And what about the people? Did they support Castro because they were bored of so much splendor and decided to give a shot to a senseless nobody who came from down the sierra?

the army was killed by castro and his men. you're mistaking "everyone was miserable under batista" with "castro had a huge following and was extremely savage and well versed in gurilla warfare"

it was about democracy, because cubans didn't have a say in politics under batista. it wasn't about living terribly, it was about democracy.

It's called caudillo, latín América is tired of them.

USA USA USA USA

You are right. There is no point in "crying over the spilled milk" now, as we say. But it is undeniable that poverty in Colombia is heavily correlated along racial lines. Of course, much of this may be for historical and cultural reasons, but what if there is a more to that. What if there is some inherent reason that hinders their/our development? It's worth considering the "what-if" scenarios. If nothing else for scholarly discussion.


But Colombia's demographic problems are more than that. Don't quote me on this, but I remember reading that Colombia was very hostile to immigration from European countries. Particularly from the late XIX and early XX centuries when the big waves came. Colombia not only didn't encourage immigration (like Argentina) but actually discourage it with a myriad of restrictions. From what I understand they were particularly hostile towards Jews.

And truthfully, Colombia wasn't a very hot destination to begin with. The weather and the mountains didn't help. But how different would be this country if we had received more European immigrants? Many that came with industry and knowledge. Maybe we will never know.

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Cuba was entirely the fault of the US. If the US had not tried to fuck Cuba with the platt amendment then the US could have just used economic power to dominate the island.

The US got greedy, revolution happened, and here we are.

On the bright side, there's a genuine colombian culture.

Embargo

>Colombia denied the jews, is Colombia, and dare I say, /ourguy/

There wouldn't really be that much of a difference. We are already controlled by the Char's in Dubay. This past two decades we have evolved on a exponential level, my family, travelled to Barranquilla after two years and couldn't recognize the city.
I hope better years shine over our land.

Communist bastards. That's why.

Oh fuck yeah, and a pro-family one.

Well memes aside, (non-orthodox) Jews are wonderful immigrants. They were usually college educated or very skilled craftsmen. And yes ... financiers. But a financial system is necessary for business.

Look who Jews are over represented in universities. Professors, scientists, lawyers, doctors.

I would trade 100 natives for 1 Jew any day,

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You're asking the right questions, Joao.