70% of Men Aged 20-34 Are Not Married

>70% of Men Aged 20-34 Are Not Married

>Far too many young men have failed to make a normal progression into adult roles of responsibility and self-sufficiency, roles generally associated with marriage and fatherhood

>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come.

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So Sup Forums, why are you still an unmarried man-child?

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Single mother.

wew lad

Street racers don't need girlfriends

This

>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day and the inevitable divorce for bullshit reasons but that serves as a nice excuse to rob the man of everything he has

>he believes in mariage
What a cuck

This.

I had no guidance in life whatsoever, and I'm still trying to get out from under that without abandoning my family to do so.

Because my main is on Eredar

I'm married, and happily so for 6 years in June. That said, over 99% of women are shit. In my opinion, I won the lottery.

So asking why men aren't married is like asking them why they haven't won the lottery.

>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come.

Well it's good to know that these marriage laws are backfiring on women

Please, could we just cut to the chase today.
Modern women are shit, blah, blah, blah.
I swear this fucking thread feels like Groundhog day.

single and ready to die alone boys

>its ok to be fat and gross and hate men
>no men are marrying women

I wonder why?

>hurrr it's other peoples fault

I bet the Jews are the main reason all you do is post on Sup Forums

I don't need another human being to justify my existence.

Most men aren't single by choice. Let's face it, the problem is women being extremely selective and refusing to settle down

because it's too fucking expensive to go through the steps needed to getting to that point.

>courtship
>dates
>gifts
>repeat above, as needed, until proposal
>engagement/wedding rings
>wedding planning
>wedding
>honeymoon
>new house, assuming you need one
>kids

this doesn't even go into how fucked you are if your spouse gets bored of you and divorces you.

next time think before feminism

>you can't have a relationship or kids without getting married

It's almost like divorce laws put people off.

I'll grant you the courtship and dates, although that's only a couple of months. I didn't buy an engagment ring, and both of our wedding rings are tungsten bands. No honeymoon, no house (rent @ 400/month).

We'll be having kids in a few years, but there's no rush.

The risk and effort required is not worth the reward anymore

surprising you're significant other didn't think of you as a cheap bastard.

Because women are all fucking whores and the system is shit. If I found the one in a gorillion perfect woman and built up a relationship I still wouldn't fucking marry her. It benefits me in quite literally no way. It's not like the cops will break down your door if you're a family with kids for twenty years but you never got married. Fuck it.

Well, she went homeless with me for 3 months (before we were married), even when she had better options that weren't extended to me.

You can see why I said I feel like I won the lottery.

simplest and most refined explanation.

Fucck off with that responsibility and grow up shite
I'm going to smoke meth shoot guns and drive a Harley
Fuck you wont do what you tell me
No point innit

(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments)

In July 1968 four pairs of mice were introduced into the habitat. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators.

The last surviving birth was on day 600, bringing the total population to a mere 2200 mice... This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, increase in homosexual behavior, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed "the beautiful ones." Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.

...when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.

Calhoun saw the fate of the population of mice as a metaphor for the potential fate of man. He characterized the social breakdown as a "second death,” with reference to the “second death” mentioned in the Biblical book of Revelation 2:11. His study has been cited by writers such as Bill Perkins as a warning of the dangers of the living in an "increasingly crowded and impersonal world."

>Breeding never resumed

>shillimanjaro bot threads

At least I like the anime picture more

Shes cheated on you.
Dont worry she made you kiss her after he blowie

The internet has taught me that women are evil animals that see men only in terms of their utility, and that there is an expectation of me to constantly behave like a person called "Chad", and failure to do so even once will result in her fornicating with males of other ethnic backgrounds.
Also that everything would be taken from me in a court of law, although I don't believe that our divorce laws are as extreme as those in Burgerland.

I'm 25. I've had 2 serious relationships in my life, the second one ended about 3 years ago now. I attempt online dating occassionally, although I never achieve any success, not with attractive women anyway. I can't bring myself to settle for women I find unattractive, I simply refuse to put up with one just for the sake of having someone to shag.

I'm in the middle of a carpentry apprenticeship, so the whole career side of thing isn't going too badly, although I'll be the first to admit I've started on the whole thing a little later than most.

I inherited about £115k in assets about a year ago, which I used to buy a very small one bedroom, mid terraced bungalow. It ain't much, but it's mine. No mortgage, no rent.

I just bought a relatively nice car, registered in 2015. Like my house, it's nothing fancy, but it belongs to me and it will do me nicely for the next 10 years.

I've got around £17.5k left. I'm hoping to use the £7.5k to carry out some work on my house and buy some new furniture, white goods etc. I'll be doing all of the work myself, already got all the hand/power tools I'll need. The only stuff I won't be doing is the electrical stuff.

So yeah, I think I'm doing alright. Like I said, I'm 100% unprepared to settle for a woman that I don't actually find attractive. If that means I'll remain un-married and childless, so be it.

I'll be fucked if I'm going to wake up everyday and the first thing I'll see will be the face of a woman I can't stand the sight of.

Besides, I've already kind of adopted this stray cat, so I don't need a woman for companionship.

Oh look, another shill thread, aren't you tired already Aussie, don't you have Emus to kill?

Can't afford it
Used the Internet every day for hours on end since I was 5 years old and it made me autistic

Sounds comfy

Shill this gets posted every thread about men not living up to women.

women are icky lol

Just 30 minutes ago I had to pick up a large stick so a pack of kangaroos wouldn't jump me in the forest.

give me a virginal, loyal wife who would be a good mother and i'll happily get married

oh wait every woman in a 200 mile radius is absolutely none of those things

>the face of white nationalism
praise kek

How does changing marriage law help?

If you prevent couples from divorcing that doesn't make the wife resent the husband any less

She can run up credit card debt or get the husband kicked out anyway

Because I don't want to risk marrying someone that's neurotic, an ex cock carousel, or worst of all, a coal burner. I understand that means less whites being bred, but quite honestly who the fuck would want to have children with these sick people?

>still making it about this impacts women who won't get their pretty princess wedding instead of the larger national ramifications of your native people not marrying, breeding and being purposefully population replaced by the Rothschild's globalist schemes

Well, I suppose that if they want the female audience they have to also show how it impacts them, directly.

This is why women's rights was a mistake.

"Normal progression"

Wow, what a conformist tool. Fitting the mold that society created for you before you were even born. Seems legit.

Also all the men who are sexually frustrated with not family ties friends or anything to lose.
Not like anything bad could happen.

The real question is are you the type of man an honest Christian father who cares about his daughter, would feel comfortable marrying his daughter? What are you doing in your life that is making you marriage material? ARe you in the right social groups to meet women who value marriage?

Don't focus on finding someone, focus on yourself- values, body, mind, spirit, ect... Be the best and strongest version of yourself and you will be attractive to the type of women who value marriage. It's higher in the Midwest and south (80%) and lower in the north and west coast (50%) ( my personal perception)
Despite this boards obsession with degenerate women, the vast majority are not. Go be the best and strongest version of yourself man. Disipline brings freedom.
-I am 28, I've been marred 7 years with 1 daughter and the Mrs is due with #2 on the summer.

What did he write again?

haha feminists destroyed marriage and made it a completely shitty contract for men, what the fuck do they expect. nobody wants to be a fucking slave

Women need men less because the world of work and technology changed.

Tweaking no fault divorce, is that really going to change anything? It will make women value men as in the past?

The most common job today is in an air conditioned office, not on a farmers field in the pouring rain or baking heat.

This is why women need men less.

Eventually maintenance of population levels will become the responsibility of government, not anonymous married/unmarried couples.

monkey mentality

make it so men aren't kicked out of their own home by the police on the whim of the women

make it so men don't have to financially support an ex-wife

make it so child support payments actually go to the CHILD and not to the mother's cigarettes

make it so fathers actually have rights in family courts (I don't know how it is in Brtiain but here its completely fucked against fathers)

basically everything that is a raw deal about marriage for men, change.

chimpanzee character

>haha feminists destroyed marriage

Trips wasted on a moron.

Sup Forums usually seeks villains instead of observing and analysing the reasons for change.

Men and women walked away from marriage for different reasons.

>so the whole career side of thing isn't going too badly, although I'll be the first to admit I've started on the whole thing a little later than most.

Nah m8, you will likely change jobs/careers several times before retirement.

Face it, Britain is a bleak and sad place for young people. I don't blame them for dragging their feet.

>not married
And how many of them are divorced?

this

Also being single lets me be free to be a piece of shit

I would really like to get married and have someone to always be there and shit but honestly woman are fucking shit. I'm not a supreme gentleman by any means either

Finished reading your post.

The truly sad part is you are still very, very, very lucky compared to most people in Britain. Owning your own home at 25 makes you borderline upper-class if anything.

Shut up, cuck. Suck my dick.

>Owning your own home at 25 makes you borderline upper-class if anything.

We truly live in sad times

Women are promiscuous snakes who do not want me because I'm ugly inside and out, but most importantly because I'm not rich.

Ape aspirations

Equal parenting exists in European countries and the appetite for marriage is barely higher.

You have some good ideas, yet these are child-focused and do not require continued cohabitation of a male & female who dislike each other.

The number of couples for whom continued married life is in their interests, or at least better than a messy alternative, is going to be much lower in 2017 than 1917, because the world of employment & society has radically changed.

Besides some abstract statistics that you pulled out of your ass, gimme one coherent reason why I should.

Sane here user. I missed out on enlistment for the army due to being afraid of leaving my mother's side. We have no family near us and she'd be completely alone.

Britain has a dynamic economy compared to most of Europe and extremely generous tax shelter plans for ordinary citizens who want to invest for the future.

It is a very good place to earn money if you are long term focused and intend to retire early (even overseas).

How else will you be a happy goy?

It's really both men and women's faults. Most men today haven't been taught how to be men and are much slower to mature. You can't honestly blame it all on women.

I live in the middle of nowhere in a rural area, work a full shift every day and have graduate courses in the evening.

I have no fucking time for it in general and even if I did the local women are all twice my body weight because they're poor as shit and eat junk food and gubmint dole all day. The solution to this problem is to date women many miles away, and that eats up more of my already precious time.

Echoing this.

32. One long-term relationship in my life that ended a decade ago. Dated off and on since then, but I don't really meet anyone who shares my values. It's not even really about looks, I just prefer to like the person I'm fucking.

Good career (software dev) living in my own apartment in midtown manhattan (NYC). Have other interesting things going on in my life -- podcast, couple of side businesses. I'm well educated, handy (I fix my own car, do electronics projects, wiring in my apt, etc), and comfortably self-sufficient.

So yeah, I'm also doing alright. I'm going to keep doing what I like to do in life and if I meet someone who wants to be on board, cool.

I doubt I'm going to find it here though. NYC is like a theme park for genitals. Everyone's values here are shit. I'm not happy about being alone but after learning my lesson the hard way, this is better for me.

Found the fedora

>70% of Men Aged 20-34 Are Not Married

What about the women Aged 20-34?

i did the long term relationship thing

it isnt worth it

online dating makes it too easy for men and women to get curious about other opportunities

men however stay attractive into their 40s while women lose it in the mid-late 20s

as a 26 year old male, the woman i marry may still not have been born yet

Most young women are unattracted to men who already want to be fathers, who already look forward to marriage and commitment. Men who don't want to play the dating bullshit game turn them off.

For whatever dumb reason, even though they complain about it, young women actually /want/ to wrangle a stereotypical bachelor and shape him to where he wants to commit.

Again, most. Some young women aren't like that, some want a family, and want a guy who also wants a family. But these women have a catch. If she's a virgin, she wants you to be a virgin. If she's catholic, she wants you to be catholic, and so on.

I guess I left out this part but I spent most of my life doing hard work. Software is a recent thing. I'm working-class and still look at the world that way.

it's true though

Those are impressive things. I'm sure you'll meet a good one In a year or so. Th3y come along so rarely

Because i want to see Rome burn to the ground.

>men however stay attractive into their 40s while women lose it in the mid-late 20s

not true.

but both men and women lose their youthful looks in their late 30s, yes.

But women lose more value when they lose their youthfulness

>run a business
>own multiple houses

Because women dont find me attractive. I'm at the age where women will date you even if they dont like you so I just dont give a shit anymore.

The other night I was talking to this one woman probably in her late 30s, she was telling me she dated this guy who kept trying to ask her out for like 6 months at her job. She said she did not find him attractive at all but figured why not give it a try. So she dated him for a month or two then moved on.

I dont really care for women, I dont really care for people.

I would have settled for anyone for like a decade but now I'm just bitter.

> tfw I don't hate women I just can't trust them

OH BOY ITS THIS THREAD AGAIN

>as a 26 year old male, the woman i marry may still not have been born yet

good luck finding a woman who wants to be widowed when she's 30

tbf, It sounds like you've only had experiences with shit women. Do you live in a city?

Not all girls cheat. Get real. A lot do, but a lot don't

>give me a virginal, loyal wife
>give me

Go out and find one, you weak beta faggot.

I'm going to be reposting this in all threads until anti-marriage idiots admit that they are wrong

Marriage is the only path to a happy life.
People have been getting married for all of human history, but its only this generation who are rejecting marriage for really stupid reasons.

Let's go over all the reasons why millenials don't want to get married and debunk them one by one

>I have a career to focus on, I don't want to let family get in the way of that
People know perfectly well that their careers and money will never bring them lasting happiness. Even the poorest married person is happier than the most well off single. They are ignoring their biological imperative and that will eventually cause deep existential angst.

>All men/women these days are leches/sluts. It's impossible to find one that is suitable for marriage
People who say this are always looking in the wrong places. They think they will find their perfect partner in a bar or club. They could easily go to a church group or something like that and meet a chaste, family oriented partner. But they don't. They don't want to put the effort in to being religious. And that is their own fault.

>Well the divorce rate is 50%. So what's the point?
Anti-marriage morons love "muh 50%". They love to throw it around whenever they can. But it's beginning to become well known that the statistic is misleading. It's 50% accounting for all races, all income levels, all regions of the country, all faiths, and accounts for second, third and forth marriages as well. White, middle class, religious suburban couple could have a 95% success rate, and it can be brought down to 50% by all the inner city youths rushing into marriage as well as the serial marriers.

continued...

> I would have settled for anyone for like a decade but now I'm just bitter.

feels, fellow user. feels. :(

>I am not in a good financial position to get married and have kids

People seem to think that they need to be millionares living in mansions before they can even have their first kid. This mindset is a recent one. People weren't focusing on reaching a financial goal before having kids in the past, and for the most part, they did fine. Living within your means and managing money isn't that hard. I've heard a story of a single income family with 13 kids who were doing very well.

>But I enjoy my independence

The cult of independence that millenials follow seems to be a twisted spectre of the american dream. They slavishly follow independence even to their own detriment. "Move out when you're 18, buy your own flat, buy your own car, don't get tied down. Even relationships tie you down. Be your own boss, move around as much as you can. Independence!" But this thinking has been proven to make people miserable. Yet so many people buy into it and end up miserable.

>Marriage has always been a raw deal for my given gender

It doesn't matter whether you think marriage is a patriarchal, holdover from our oppressive past, or whether you think its a trap created by women to make men provide for them, that thinking all falls apart when you look at how miserable single people are. Marriage has worked for nearly all of human history. It's only now when we have abandoned it that things are falling to pieces. Things like prenuptuals were even created to remove any risks for both genders when marrying. And as mentioned above, the divorce rate for many demographics is low enough anyway.


As you can see, there is no reason not to get married.
If you are capable of getting married, but you choose not to, you are only hurting yourself.

You think those who are married happy by default? You are extremely deluded, my friend.

Birth of a child has one of the highest stress factors

you either need to be rich or a CHAD nowadays

>podcast
I vomited

fucking jewtube attention whores who thinks their silly opinions matter

Or charismatic.

>aborrent ID
>1 post by this ID
Since feminists are so preachy about equality, couldnt we meme it so women have to court men and men are given the power to fuck them over?

I would be fine with getting married. With a person worth marrying.

I've seen one good marriage my whole life. I grew up with a single mom. My older brother's marriage is a disaster. Everyone in my family's (multiple) marriages are disasters. Almost everyone I know my age (early 30s) has been single, in an LTR for 10+ years or is getting divorced right now.

This isn't totally on us -- we're seeing the breakdown of marriage in older generations first and weighing the downside risk more heavily.

>CHAD
>CHArismatic Dick

Simian Psychology

There is literally no reason to get married

It's more not all girls get caught cheating

You may as well as me to go find a dodo bird, Sergei. It would be easier.