Brit/pol/ - Dibnah edition

>Thread Video
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>"B-Boris, HEEEELP!" Hapless May tells her Foreign and Home Secretaries to call their US counterparts to complain about evil Drumpf's Muslim ban
news.sky.com/story/britain-to-call-us-over-president-trumps-travel-ban-10747719

>EU's chief Brexit negotiator says Theresa May's promised trade deal by 2019 is 'impossible'
independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/guy-verhofstadt-chief-brexit-theresa-may-eu-trade-deal-2019-impossible-a7550136.html

>Hospitals 'dangerously full' during winter crisis, says thinktank
theguardian.com/society/2017/jan/28/hospitals-dangerously-full-during-winter-crisis-says-thinktank

>May agrees to deal to build fighter jets for Turkey
independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/theresa-may-agrees-100m-fighter-jet-deal-with-turkeys-erdogan-despite-human-rights-concerns-a7551006.html

>Backbenchers put forward a motion to throw out A50
theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/28/labour-mps-commons-motion-article-50-bill-heidi-alexander

>From pig to man and man to pig - Ex-Copeland MP turned down offer from the Tories to defect to them
theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/26/jamie-reed-ex-labour-mp-turned-down-offer-defect-tories-conservative-party

>Former Governor of Hong Kong Chris Patten: May's Global© Modern Britain™ risks 'selling its honour' for trade deals with China
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38745204

>"Replacing the EU at any cost" - Reflections on May's visit to Turkey
independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-erdogan-turkey-trade-deal-brexit-human-rights-a7549636.html

>"You can come back!" - Britain would be given a speedy return to the EU if it chose to rejoin, says an increasingly grinning Guy Verhofstadt
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/britain-could-have-fastrack-back-eu-brexit-says-european-parliament/

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irishtimes.com/opinion/vision-of-ni-catholics-out-breeding-protestants-is-a-dangerous-myth-1.91944
sluggerotoole.com/2012/12/11/census-catholics-rise-by-1-protestants-down-by-5-others-are-the-unofficial-winners/
irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/can-sf-under-djerry-adams-become-the-north-s-largest-party-1.2633743
independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/northern-ireland-power-sharing-latest-collapse-end-sinn-fein-refuse-stormont-dup-martin-mcguinness-a7529111.html
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H E R T F O R D S H I R E

Anything other than admitting Hitler was the literal avatar of Wotan and saviour of the Aryan race is cucking.

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How long do you lads reckon we have got if we continue on the current trajectory before the shitfest we live in becomes completely irreversible.

If yoy're not from East Anglia or the East Midlands you're not Anglo.

At which point in the fall of western civilisation will the window of opportunity emerge to rebuild this excellence and glory?

And how to we make sure it's us?

When there are none of us left.

Not a bloody second before.

>>"Replacing the EU at any cost" - Reflections on May's visit to Turkey
>independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-erdogan-turkey-trade-deal-brexit-human-rights-a7549636.html

Smacks of desperation 2bh

>put jews up in holiday camps with finger painting and tennis courts while germans bled out into russian mud
>made criticism of jewish power borderline impossible for the next eighty years
>good

We were finished approximately 50 years ago.

Though if you want to go back a little further then the collapse of the Church in 1914 is a good indication of where we were heading. And before that the French Revolution.

There have been many cliff edges on the way down. Demography will be the last.

Make sure you own several firearms.

>if you stand up to the bad guys and everyone gangs up on you and blow you the fuck out its your fault

Absolutely pathetic argument.

I judge by results not good intentions
Then again this is the Mummy May board

Assuming we stay utterly apathetic and silent, then we are already well-travelled along the extinction trajectory.

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Here lads, have a feeble attempt to inject some hope into this evening.

youtube.com/watch?v=-GvkyKEYRnM

How does one stop despising the working class?

For sure, I like Nick Griffin. My point is, he called the Holocaust a hoax, his party is associated closely with shit-tier skinhead football hooligans and that glass eye makes him look like a complete nutcase.

If his message was delivered by a new person it might actually do quite well.

By realizing that that if we are to save ourselves they are the ones who will do it.

See Brexit, See Trump

Talk to some of them
>I judge by results only
I guess you hate all politicians and policies of the past 70 years then?

Just stop being a marxist cuck.

I know your country is full of them but god damn just stop

Take a look at any war memorial.

About 20 years. The military is still on our side at this stage. They're trying to (((diversify))) it as we speak.

Surely there has to be an opportunity to swing public opinion before such drastic measures become necessary.

Perhaps when the continent starts to go to the dogs people will be more inclined to listen to an alternative philosophy?

Remember they've got no jobs, they're forced to live in brutalist monstrosities, and their communities have been destroyed by immigration

B-but...I thought they were based and would shoot dead any muslims...
>"that's a liberal state w-where guns are banned!"
But it's in Texas...

Swively Nick had his heart in the right place but he had way too much baggage. It was the same with the National Front who couldn't learn how to say no to causes that were getting them nowhere.
If literally anyone else had led the BNP it's honestly hard to say they wouldn't've carried the country in the 2000s

This.

By hating the Middle Class instead.

The Working Class is just thick and easily led, it's the Middle Class that actively works to destroy the nation for their own gain.

Ukip have a much more moderate message and they didn't manage it in this decade

Remember that the working class are the vehicle of any significant change in this country.

Any movement that does not court them is destined to fail from the outset, for it is they that shall provide the feet to march.

If you stop immigration today, we will still be outbred eventually. We need total civilisational collapse before anyone does anything. Otherwise, we will just have to learn how to survive as a minority like white Americans and Native Americans before them.

Any party with that sort of message will inherently attract such associations - it's an uncomfortable fact, but no less a true one.

The problem is that even if you suppose the European Union collapses into a some sort of civil war within the next 10 years, which is almost a ridiculous notion to entertain, by then - and by now - there are too many non-natives here all ready. And short of mass expulsions, you are not going to get rid of them; they were born here, they speak with that ghastly London accent and most people, even those on the right - and whose support you need - will never be able to stomach what needs to be done to them.

They have nowhere to be deported to because most people consider them British and always will do.

>If you stop immigration today, we will still be outbred eventually.

Anonymongs believe this.

this.

Why aren't you a local Councillor yet brit/pol?

By realising that a great deal of their faults are a consequence of the liberalism the upper/middle classes have imposed upon them.

I am.

A transgender """"person"""" could stand for the Conservatives where I live and still get elected - the people here think their cross at the ballot box once every 5 years and then every 4 for their councillor absolves them of any personal responsibility for the state and direction of the country - and even if it does decline, it's not their fault, they voted Conservative, see?

Who doesn't?
Lad the last great PM this country had was probably Lord Salisbury, and even he fucked up at times (letting the Liberal ticket bully him into allowing a subversive poo in loo into parliament)

>Any party with that sort of message will inherently attract such associations - it's an uncomfortable fact, but no less a true one.

True, it will happen, but Nick and co. had been at it for years. by the time the BNP started to gain momentum they were so thoroughly intertwined with those sorts of idiots they had no way of distancing themselves.

Plus even if you agree with the notion, denying the Holocaust was an incredibly stupid thing to do because it serves no purpose whatsoever.

The working class needs leadership, drive, purpose.

Our current working/underclass are detestable, but only because of the environment they live in.

honestly, how could one come from a working class background in this country and not fall into despondency, crime etc? Life is awful for these people because of the pathetic leadership of the UK

JUST!

>Plus even if you agree with the notion, denying the Holocaust was an incredibly stupid thing to do because it serves no purpose whatsoever.

True. Though if you continue watering down your message to appeal to more people you eventually become the Conservative party and that watered down message becomes the party - and poisons it.

It's about knowing where to draw the line, though I do agree it serves no purpose to willingly walk into the jaws of the media. Perhaps it was an attempt to garner greater exposure through the critical articles that such an assertion was bound to create, but if so it still didn't work.

The issue is too many people are too comfortable. It's a slow - and in many ways - pleasant slide into oblivion.

Rewatching the Darling Buds of May and wishing I was living a comfy rural life in 1950s England.
It's a strange kind of feel lads.

It was never the BNP's message that was the issue. It's that the public has a pavlovian response to "Nazis" and skinheads and there is no force on Earth that can change that. Nick was born into the purple and his background was always going to come back to haunt him.
It was actually Nick who tried to clean up the BNP but he either didn't realise or didn't care that he was the biggest problem in itself

Given sufficient outrage could the people not be lead to elect such a government that would take steps in that direction though?

At least in terms of policy and legality expelling non-citizens would not be an impossible thing, and while not a total solution, it would at least be a step in the right direction.

Though I suppose that if Rotherham did not generate such a negative feeling that could make these goals achievable, perhaps nothing shall.

This country requires a great man, I don't know who he is or what he looks like, but we certainly need him.

if you're from anywhere but the south you are black

As time goes on I become more and more convinced that the solution to the problem will need to be, at least to a certain extent, disguised.

The entering of Allied Propaganda into the historical record has forever tainted the ideas of Fascism with association with Hitler. I think that perhaps the thing to exploit is the public's general ignorance of the content of Fascism, and put it to them under a different name and coat of paint.

Whats the best way to break the system though.

That man may already exist but how does he break the party machines and gain power.

It took UKIP 20 years to not even get 1 MP

>Vision of NI Catholics out breeding Protestants is a dangerous myth
>Jul 26, 1997
irishtimes.com/opinion/vision-of-ni-catholics-out-breeding-protestants-is-a-dangerous-myth-1.91944

>45 per cent of the population were either Catholic or brought up as Catholic, while 48 per cent belonged to or were brought up in Protestant, Other Christian or Christian-related denominations. This compares to a breakdown of 43.76 per cent Catholic, 53.13 per cent Protestant reported in the last census in 2001.
>11 December 2012
sluggerotoole.com/2012/12/11/census-catholics-rise-by-1-protestants-down-by-5-others-are-the-unofficial-winners/

>McGuinness, the Deputy First Minister hasn’t ruled out the possibility of Sinn Féin being the largest party after the votes are counted
>May 4, 2016
irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/can-sf-under-djerry-adams-become-the-north-s-largest-party-1.2633743

>Power-sharing collapses in Northern Ireland, after Sinn Fein refuse to return to Stormont executive
>16 January 2017
independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/northern-ireland-power-sharing-latest-collapse-end-sinn-fein-refuse-stormont-dup-martin-mcguinness-a7529111.html

>Reading about Winston Churchil
>It says it was unusual that the queen attended as it was rare for the queen to attend a funeral of a commoner

>Churchill
>Commoner

The guy had fucking titles coming out of his arse, wtf... He even has a coat of arms.

The Jews had been in Germany for centuries when Hitler started expelling them. I'm not saying that's going to happen here any time soon, but it shows you that it's never too late to fix things

top lad

>And short of mass expulsions

Such things have happened before, nothing is impossible. Then again maybe I'm just fooling myself.

>Based Dibnah saved us from a Rimmercuck thread

If you actually support hitler you are a race traitor krautcuck

Churchill was a knight but knights are still commoners. To not be one you have to be a lord

I think he said the Holocaust stuff in the 90s and retracted it later when the parties fortunes were improving. Too late by then of course.

With regards to watering down the message... any policies to do with preserving the white race and such are gonna have you labeled as an extremist Nazi, of course, but we HAVE to talk about this. Holocaust denial is not something we need to do at all. You can say the Holocaust happened without saying that whites need to accept becoming a minority in their homelands.

>This country requires a great man, I don't know who he is or what he looks like, but we certainly need him.

lol wishful thinking

it's over lad. enjoy the decline.

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He was a member of the Spencer family which was a noble family tho

>implying

reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/5qtt5y/nigel_farage_welcomes_donald_trumps_muslim_ban/

Great Reddit thread.

Really makes you think...

It's probably going to take:

>another more severe financial crash
>several terrorists attacks in quick succession
>a leader with beyond even ARE NIGE amounts of charisma
>all of this to happen while Trump or someone Trump-tier is in power in America, otherwise they'll come to the defense of the immigrants

even then I'm probably missing a couple of things.

>Given sufficient outrage could the people not be lead to elect such a government that would take steps in that direction though?

The entirety of the media is controlled, I simply do not see how such outrage could be generated. This is not to say that people are dumb; they are simply too busy in their own personal lives and bubbles to give what is necessary. It requires a sacrifice, make no mistake about it - to have both a functioning public life and devote the time needed to plan, organise and carry out large scale changes in public opinion.

You see evidence of it in very subtle ways - the reports for Berlin and Nice read "x dead after truck attack." Those who do not have time to read articles only have the headline sink into their narrative and view of the world. Deep down they know the problem, but because it's not articulated for them in any major publication or political party they do not want to be the one to be seen to breaking rank.

I was active in campaigning for the vote to leave the European Union - you would shudder at how difficult it was to get people to help for even as little as one evening - on sunny evenings. It's too easy to do nothing. Adults today will barely see the results of what is going on - and do not have time to think about what will happen to their children beyond examination preparation, university selection and job applications.

It is why the left is largely so good at this - they have hundreds of thousands of students on minimal contact hour degrees at 1994 ex polytechnics just sitting around most cities - what else are they going to do with their day other than campaigning for #Refugees and then heading to their artisnal cafes to pat themselves on the back about it?

Hardship is the biggest motivator of all. Real hardship, too, not skimming by on median income averages. We don't have that - and won't until it is too late. Of course the lack of hardship is intentional - it makes it easier for them.

Yeah but he himself wasn't a lord

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So is Brexit happening or not?

Keep posting m8, you're one of the best tripfags since athens stopped posting regularly

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Doesn't just being from a noble family make you not a commoner?

Stop this.

If history tells us anything, it is that eventually it's course will produce a window of opportunity for such a thing to happen. Whether this window be produced by disasters of an economic, military or cultural nature is immaterial. What matters is having the right man in the right place at the right time.

Given sufficient reason to do so, the people will follow nearly any leader.

Never. This game isn't over until it's over. So long as even one good Briton remains it is the duty of that Briton to carry on.

Defeatism of your like is part of what got us here in the first place, always giving ground to those ideas that would undo us, because resisting them was too hard, or would result in your being called nasty names.

The absolute STATE of Young Independence.

Also, notice how the Libertarian Society has a picture of the socialist George Orwell in the background.

If Britain dies where's the best place to go?

It was optimism that got us here, not pessimism

>LONDON CAN TAKE IT xD

Thanks mate, I will.

Will he kill himself when he loses?

>Holocaust denial is not something we need to do at all.
As long as the hoax stands as mainstream history, Jews will be brainwashed to fear and hate whites and need only be told who the next Hitler (Trump) is and who the nazis (fucking white males) are and they will do the rest themselves. Debunking the holocaust is essential, not only from a political point of view, but moral and spiritual too. If the historical narrative is a lie, then you can't learn from history. If you perception of reality is inauthentic, then you can't achieve enlightenment.

He says he'll carry on as leader but every cunt knows it's all over for the lot of them if he loses Stoke

>If

Only reasonable answer.

I have. That's why I despise them.

A marxist would seek to empower them for their own gain.

And you'll see it cut class boundaries. Toffs bleed just the same.

Again, nigger-tier excuses.

WC have never had less influence.

Sounds like the kind of reasons one heres to excuse nigger behaviour.

Nope. A commoner is someone who can sit in the House of Commons, i.e. anyone who doesn't have a seat in the House of Lords

there are some right old loonies in this thread

have a you

>Churchill, aristocrat who got power by undemocratic means who lead the nation and empire into desolation
a british hero and inspiration to all britons

>hitler
>a homeless artist, school failure who was on the frontline in a dangerous role in WW1 who then dedicated his life to a politcal movement to better the German people and eventually got power and transformed the country for the betterment of all classes.
an evil warmongering nasty evil who we should all hate, even those who would have benefited from such leader

Hang on, this is Ukip? Embarassing

>1 post by this ID
How so?

Russia

>t. commie supporting internationalist kike

The "WE CAN STILL SAVE LE EMPIRE CHAPS OPTIMISM 'TIL THE END BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA HOW BAD THINGS REALLY ARE, THIIIIINGS!!!" LARPer is a loony but the esoteric Jew BTFOer isn't

You are right in that there is a line to draw, certainly there would be no purpose in denying the holocaust publicly or expressing the opinion that the white race is in any way superior, despite all evidence to the contrary, but there is another problem, one that props up that one, and one that in my opinion is becoming less of an issue. The issue is that it is the mainly liberal media who get to draw where that line is, political correctness is a mechanism that has been put in place by those in charge that cuts of any questioning of the status quo before it even gets a chance to get going. Truth fears no questioning, and it is for that reason that the mechanism has been successfully in it's social engineering to make it completely unacceptable to question the holocaust, it has made it completely unacceptable to question if one race might be superior to another, it has made it completely forbidden to even bring up the fact that there is a large Jewish influence in politics and the media. Fortunately though, a new medium has arisen in the late 20th century that is all but impossible to control - the internet. Video for TV might need to go through all sorts of regulations and protocols before it makes it to air, but the internet has allowed us to take back control over what ideas we share and what information is accessible, never before has it been so easy to access the works of David Irving, 30 years ago you would have had to seek out a physical copy of his book, which would have been all but impossible, but now you can freely watch his lectures on youtube and download his books in seconds, 30 years ago if you wanted to research who was in charge of what media corporations and what their background was it would have been immeasurably more difficult than it is today. I'm not saying that the internet will fix everything, but it is unquestionable that the line of what is acceptable to talk about and what isn't has been shifting to the right in recent years.

>WC have never had less influence.

Correction. Less influence since Post-WW2

Are there actually fucking people on Sup Forums who think the privatisation of British Rail was a good thing?

So where are you going then?

Probably not.

>what are paragraphs

basically you wouldn't start off about the holohoax if you're a political party but no doubt if you're a nationalist or national socialist the question would be raised somewhere down the line and how you respond to that would be cruicial

"sure the holohoa- i mean holocaust was real and was a bad thing innit but we're not like them evil nazis"

or

"the holohoax didn't happen, here's my evidence and irving speeches to back it up"
to then get BTFO'd by "alternate history" historians