>put jews up in holiday camps with finger painting and tennis courts while germans bled out into russian mud >made criticism of jewish power borderline impossible for the next eighty years >good
Jason Wilson
We were finished approximately 50 years ago.
Though if you want to go back a little further then the collapse of the Church in 1914 is a good indication of where we were heading. And before that the French Revolution.
There have been many cliff edges on the way down. Demography will be the last.
Isaac Long
Make sure you own several firearms.
Austin Williams
>if you stand up to the bad guys and everyone gangs up on you and blow you the fuck out its your fault
Absolutely pathetic argument.
Grayson Wright
I judge by results not good intentions Then again this is the Mummy May board
Jaxon Young
Assuming we stay utterly apathetic and silent, then we are already well-travelled along the extinction trajectory.
Josiah Clark
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Charles Mitchell
Here lads, have a feeble attempt to inject some hope into this evening.
For sure, I like Nick Griffin. My point is, he called the Holocaust a hoax, his party is associated closely with shit-tier skinhead football hooligans and that glass eye makes him look like a complete nutcase.
If his message was delivered by a new person it might actually do quite well.
James Richardson
By realizing that that if we are to save ourselves they are the ones who will do it.
See Brexit, See Trump
Asher Jenkins
Talk to some of them >I judge by results only I guess you hate all politicians and policies of the past 70 years then?
Juan Cruz
Just stop being a marxist cuck.
I know your country is full of them but god damn just stop
Aaron Ortiz
Take a look at any war memorial.
Jose Bailey
About 20 years. The military is still on our side at this stage. They're trying to (((diversify))) it as we speak.
Brody Allen
Surely there has to be an opportunity to swing public opinion before such drastic measures become necessary.
Perhaps when the continent starts to go to the dogs people will be more inclined to listen to an alternative philosophy?
Lucas Bailey
Remember they've got no jobs, they're forced to live in brutalist monstrosities, and their communities have been destroyed by immigration
Josiah Powell
B-but...I thought they were based and would shoot dead any muslims... >"that's a liberal state w-where guns are banned!" But it's in Texas...
Lincoln Sullivan
Swively Nick had his heart in the right place but he had way too much baggage. It was the same with the National Front who couldn't learn how to say no to causes that were getting them nowhere. If literally anyone else had led the BNP it's honestly hard to say they wouldn't've carried the country in the 2000s
Connor Cook
This.
Jason Flores
By hating the Middle Class instead.
The Working Class is just thick and easily led, it's the Middle Class that actively works to destroy the nation for their own gain.
Ayden Thomas
Ukip have a much more moderate message and they didn't manage it in this decade
Hunter Kelly
Remember that the working class are the vehicle of any significant change in this country.
Any movement that does not court them is destined to fail from the outset, for it is they that shall provide the feet to march.
Adam Diaz
If you stop immigration today, we will still be outbred eventually. We need total civilisational collapse before anyone does anything. Otherwise, we will just have to learn how to survive as a minority like white Americans and Native Americans before them.
Ethan King
Any party with that sort of message will inherently attract such associations - it's an uncomfortable fact, but no less a true one.
The problem is that even if you suppose the European Union collapses into a some sort of civil war within the next 10 years, which is almost a ridiculous notion to entertain, by then - and by now - there are too many non-natives here all ready. And short of mass expulsions, you are not going to get rid of them; they were born here, they speak with that ghastly London accent and most people, even those on the right - and whose support you need - will never be able to stomach what needs to be done to them.
They have nowhere to be deported to because most people consider them British and always will do.
Benjamin Rogers
>If you stop immigration today, we will still be outbred eventually.
Anonymongs believe this.
Grayson Walker
this.
Bentley Williams
Why aren't you a local Councillor yet brit/pol?
Christopher Mitchell
By realising that a great deal of their faults are a consequence of the liberalism the upper/middle classes have imposed upon them.
Brody Williams
I am.
Jack Carter
A transgender """"person"""" could stand for the Conservatives where I live and still get elected - the people here think their cross at the ballot box once every 5 years and then every 4 for their councillor absolves them of any personal responsibility for the state and direction of the country - and even if it does decline, it's not their fault, they voted Conservative, see?
Joseph Edwards
Who doesn't? Lad the last great PM this country had was probably Lord Salisbury, and even he fucked up at times (letting the Liberal ticket bully him into allowing a subversive poo in loo into parliament)
David Peterson
>Any party with that sort of message will inherently attract such associations - it's an uncomfortable fact, but no less a true one.
True, it will happen, but Nick and co. had been at it for years. by the time the BNP started to gain momentum they were so thoroughly intertwined with those sorts of idiots they had no way of distancing themselves.
Plus even if you agree with the notion, denying the Holocaust was an incredibly stupid thing to do because it serves no purpose whatsoever.
Gabriel Phillips
The working class needs leadership, drive, purpose.
Our current working/underclass are detestable, but only because of the environment they live in.
honestly, how could one come from a working class background in this country and not fall into despondency, crime etc? Life is awful for these people because of the pathetic leadership of the UK
Jayden Jones
JUST!
Dominic Brown
>Plus even if you agree with the notion, denying the Holocaust was an incredibly stupid thing to do because it serves no purpose whatsoever.
True. Though if you continue watering down your message to appeal to more people you eventually become the Conservative party and that watered down message becomes the party - and poisons it.
It's about knowing where to draw the line, though I do agree it serves no purpose to willingly walk into the jaws of the media. Perhaps it was an attempt to garner greater exposure through the critical articles that such an assertion was bound to create, but if so it still didn't work.
The issue is too many people are too comfortable. It's a slow - and in many ways - pleasant slide into oblivion.
Juan Lopez
Rewatching the Darling Buds of May and wishing I was living a comfy rural life in 1950s England. It's a strange kind of feel lads.
Robert Wood
It was never the BNP's message that was the issue. It's that the public has a pavlovian response to "Nazis" and skinheads and there is no force on Earth that can change that. Nick was born into the purple and his background was always going to come back to haunt him. It was actually Nick who tried to clean up the BNP but he either didn't realise or didn't care that he was the biggest problem in itself
Camden Davis
Given sufficient outrage could the people not be lead to elect such a government that would take steps in that direction though?
At least in terms of policy and legality expelling non-citizens would not be an impossible thing, and while not a total solution, it would at least be a step in the right direction.
Though I suppose that if Rotherham did not generate such a negative feeling that could make these goals achievable, perhaps nothing shall.
This country requires a great man, I don't know who he is or what he looks like, but we certainly need him.
Xavier Ortiz
if you're from anywhere but the south you are black
Owen Baker
As time goes on I become more and more convinced that the solution to the problem will need to be, at least to a certain extent, disguised.
The entering of Allied Propaganda into the historical record has forever tainted the ideas of Fascism with association with Hitler. I think that perhaps the thing to exploit is the public's general ignorance of the content of Fascism, and put it to them under a different name and coat of paint.
Jaxson Martin
Whats the best way to break the system though.
That man may already exist but how does he break the party machines and gain power.
>Reading about Winston Churchil >It says it was unusual that the queen attended as it was rare for the queen to attend a funeral of a commoner
>Churchill >Commoner
The guy had fucking titles coming out of his arse, wtf... He even has a coat of arms.
John Hall
The Jews had been in Germany for centuries when Hitler started expelling them. I'm not saying that's going to happen here any time soon, but it shows you that it's never too late to fix things
Bentley Moore
top lad
Dominic Robinson
>And short of mass expulsions
Such things have happened before, nothing is impossible. Then again maybe I'm just fooling myself.
Carson Nelson
>Based Dibnah saved us from a Rimmercuck thread
Cooper Anderson
If you actually support hitler you are a race traitor krautcuck
Jordan Adams
Churchill was a knight but knights are still commoners. To not be one you have to be a lord
Michael Martin
I think he said the Holocaust stuff in the 90s and retracted it later when the parties fortunes were improving. Too late by then of course.
With regards to watering down the message... any policies to do with preserving the white race and such are gonna have you labeled as an extremist Nazi, of course, but we HAVE to talk about this. Holocaust denial is not something we need to do at all. You can say the Holocaust happened without saying that whites need to accept becoming a minority in their homelands.
Landon Ward
>This country requires a great man, I don't know who he is or what he looks like, but we certainly need him.
lol wishful thinking
it's over lad. enjoy the decline.
Ian Miller
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Josiah Miller
He was a member of the Spencer family which was a noble family tho
>another more severe financial crash >several terrorists attacks in quick succession >a leader with beyond even ARE NIGE amounts of charisma >all of this to happen while Trump or someone Trump-tier is in power in America, otherwise they'll come to the defense of the immigrants
even then I'm probably missing a couple of things.
Zachary Williams
>Given sufficient outrage could the people not be lead to elect such a government that would take steps in that direction though?
The entirety of the media is controlled, I simply do not see how such outrage could be generated. This is not to say that people are dumb; they are simply too busy in their own personal lives and bubbles to give what is necessary. It requires a sacrifice, make no mistake about it - to have both a functioning public life and devote the time needed to plan, organise and carry out large scale changes in public opinion.
You see evidence of it in very subtle ways - the reports for Berlin and Nice read "x dead after truck attack." Those who do not have time to read articles only have the headline sink into their narrative and view of the world. Deep down they know the problem, but because it's not articulated for them in any major publication or political party they do not want to be the one to be seen to breaking rank.
I was active in campaigning for the vote to leave the European Union - you would shudder at how difficult it was to get people to help for even as little as one evening - on sunny evenings. It's too easy to do nothing. Adults today will barely see the results of what is going on - and do not have time to think about what will happen to their children beyond examination preparation, university selection and job applications.
It is why the left is largely so good at this - they have hundreds of thousands of students on minimal contact hour degrees at 1994 ex polytechnics just sitting around most cities - what else are they going to do with their day other than campaigning for #Refugees and then heading to their artisnal cafes to pat themselves on the back about it?
Hardship is the biggest motivator of all. Real hardship, too, not skimming by on median income averages. We don't have that - and won't until it is too late. Of course the lack of hardship is intentional - it makes it easier for them.
Juan Nguyen
Yeah but he himself wasn't a lord
Joshua Gonzalez
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Nicholas Phillips
So is Brexit happening or not?
Juan Watson
Keep posting m8, you're one of the best tripfags since athens stopped posting regularly
Andrew Thompson
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Camden Parker
Doesn't just being from a noble family make you not a commoner?
Sebastian Sullivan
Stop this.
Henry Scott
If history tells us anything, it is that eventually it's course will produce a window of opportunity for such a thing to happen. Whether this window be produced by disasters of an economic, military or cultural nature is immaterial. What matters is having the right man in the right place at the right time.
Given sufficient reason to do so, the people will follow nearly any leader.
Never. This game isn't over until it's over. So long as even one good Briton remains it is the duty of that Briton to carry on.
Defeatism of your like is part of what got us here in the first place, always giving ground to those ideas that would undo us, because resisting them was too hard, or would result in your being called nasty names.
Connor Flores
The absolute STATE of Young Independence.
Also, notice how the Libertarian Society has a picture of the socialist George Orwell in the background.
Noah Fisher
If Britain dies where's the best place to go?
Hunter Lopez
It was optimism that got us here, not pessimism
>LONDON CAN TAKE IT xD
Adrian Moore
Thanks mate, I will.
Logan Cook
Will he kill himself when he loses?
Oliver Sanchez
>Holocaust denial is not something we need to do at all. As long as the hoax stands as mainstream history, Jews will be brainwashed to fear and hate whites and need only be told who the next Hitler (Trump) is and who the nazis (fucking white males) are and they will do the rest themselves. Debunking the holocaust is essential, not only from a political point of view, but moral and spiritual too. If the historical narrative is a lie, then you can't learn from history. If you perception of reality is inauthentic, then you can't achieve enlightenment.
Noah Jenkins
He says he'll carry on as leader but every cunt knows it's all over for the lot of them if he loses Stoke
Jace King
>If
Aiden Martinez
Only reasonable answer.
I have. That's why I despise them.
A marxist would seek to empower them for their own gain.
And you'll see it cut class boundaries. Toffs bleed just the same.
Again, nigger-tier excuses.
WC have never had less influence.
Sounds like the kind of reasons one heres to excuse nigger behaviour.
Carson Cox
Nope. A commoner is someone who can sit in the House of Commons, i.e. anyone who doesn't have a seat in the House of Lords
Josiah Moore
there are some right old loonies in this thread
Isaac Evans
have a you
>Churchill, aristocrat who got power by undemocratic means who lead the nation and empire into desolation a british hero and inspiration to all britons
>hitler >a homeless artist, school failure who was on the frontline in a dangerous role in WW1 who then dedicated his life to a politcal movement to better the German people and eventually got power and transformed the country for the betterment of all classes. an evil warmongering nasty evil who we should all hate, even those who would have benefited from such leader
Kevin Cox
Hang on, this is Ukip? Embarassing
Julian Martinez
>1 post by this ID How so?
Cooper Price
Russia
Henry Lee
>t. commie supporting internationalist kike
Luke Peterson
The "WE CAN STILL SAVE LE EMPIRE CHAPS OPTIMISM 'TIL THE END BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA HOW BAD THINGS REALLY ARE, THIIIIINGS!!!" LARPer is a loony but the esoteric Jew BTFOer isn't
Nicholas Fisher
You are right in that there is a line to draw, certainly there would be no purpose in denying the holocaust publicly or expressing the opinion that the white race is in any way superior, despite all evidence to the contrary, but there is another problem, one that props up that one, and one that in my opinion is becoming less of an issue. The issue is that it is the mainly liberal media who get to draw where that line is, political correctness is a mechanism that has been put in place by those in charge that cuts of any questioning of the status quo before it even gets a chance to get going. Truth fears no questioning, and it is for that reason that the mechanism has been successfully in it's social engineering to make it completely unacceptable to question the holocaust, it has made it completely unacceptable to question if one race might be superior to another, it has made it completely forbidden to even bring up the fact that there is a large Jewish influence in politics and the media. Fortunately though, a new medium has arisen in the late 20th century that is all but impossible to control - the internet. Video for TV might need to go through all sorts of regulations and protocols before it makes it to air, but the internet has allowed us to take back control over what ideas we share and what information is accessible, never before has it been so easy to access the works of David Irving, 30 years ago you would have had to seek out a physical copy of his book, which would have been all but impossible, but now you can freely watch his lectures on youtube and download his books in seconds, 30 years ago if you wanted to research who was in charge of what media corporations and what their background was it would have been immeasurably more difficult than it is today. I'm not saying that the internet will fix everything, but it is unquestionable that the line of what is acceptable to talk about and what isn't has been shifting to the right in recent years.
Joshua Bailey
>WC have never had less influence.
Correction. Less influence since Post-WW2
Mason Lopez
Are there actually fucking people on Sup Forums who think the privatisation of British Rail was a good thing?
Asher Scott
So where are you going then?
Bentley Baker
Probably not.
Camden Reed
>what are paragraphs
basically you wouldn't start off about the holohoax if you're a political party but no doubt if you're a nationalist or national socialist the question would be raised somewhere down the line and how you respond to that would be cruicial
"sure the holohoa- i mean holocaust was real and was a bad thing innit but we're not like them evil nazis"
or
"the holohoax didn't happen, here's my evidence and irving speeches to back it up" to then get BTFO'd by "alternate history" historians