Economists predict that in 20 years, developing shitskin countries will lose most of their jobs to automation as multinational corporations relocate their factories close to their main market, e.i the west. Unlike the west, most jobs in developing countries like India are low skilled manufacturing and service jobs(call centres) that could easily be automated with technology that's being developed today.
It's called premature deindustrialisatiom and it's already occurring in many developing countries that rely too much on FDI.
This poses a serious problem for much of the west, specifically Europe. What will likely happen as automation advanced is a mass exodus from these developing countries to regions that still have wealth and welfare like Europe. I'm afraid that this migration crisis may be the beginning of a major trend that could destroy Europe, unless European countries militarises their borders to prevent the masses of starving brown people from entering Europe.
>Economists predict that in 20 years If I had a penny for each time an economist predicted X Y or Z occurring in 20 years, I'd be richer than Hilldawg.
Jonathan Lewis
We'll deindustrialisation spurned on by automation/machine learning isn't something far fetched, this is self evident if you've been paying a close attention to advancements in AI and robotics in these last few years.
>large gyrocopter >not even a flying car >paypal funded >possible military applications :-) next
Jason Martin
communism is inevitable
just hand out birth control/sterilization to the non white countries
problem solved
Jacob Stewart
We are removing jobs for automation since the beginning of the industrial revolution. In the following decades it will be imense due to the progress in its development. As someone who works in that field I could guarantee you that in the next 30 years at least 50% of the current jobs are replaceable with machines.
That's why I'm surprised why still people complain about the population decline. As far as I know only Japan is doing it right: Their population decrease but they don't try hard to fill it up again with immigrants like we do in Europe. Instead they invest incredible much money into the science of automation.
This century Europe is going to crash really hard when a majority of people here are going to be unemployed. We won't be able to feed them anymore as those who make the big money with automation have other interests.
Our politicians don't think about the future. That's the biggest problem with them.
Tyler Ross
funny, for the last 20 years the economist have said that the west need immigrants to meet the demand for workers the next 20 years.
Xavier Richardson
Economists have no clue about technical development. They only look at the current state. In the current state they might be right, but they simply ignore the coming automation. In addition you can't be sure they are not guided of what to say by our politicians.
Angel Reyes
Many people 20 years ago saw the progress of technology as linear, when technology is improving exponentially. This creates a mismatch in expectations . Humans can't comprehend the exponential. It's why most futurists don't think it would be realistic to predict how society would look like in 50 years, despite the fact that 500 years ago, people could easily predict what the world would look like in 50 years as technological progress was a lot slower back then,
Jaxson Mitchell
>Humans can't comprehend the exponential
Jack Thomas
I'm looking forward to liquidating billions of unneeded humans.
Landon Russell
>implying you won't be shoahed as well.
Ryder Mitchell
>he thinks machines are cheaper than humans Entitled 1st worlder don't really understands how cheap humans are. Fun fact: average sedan costs more than average human.
Landon Long
Eventually I will be, once the robots can build, upgrade, and fix themselves without human interaction. Hopefully we'll get consciousness transfer sorted by then.
In most of the world, human life already has negative value. Automation's goal is to enable us to stop having to take care of so much useless meat.
Henry Flores
Unemployment is not going to be a problem in the sense you're proposing if the economy is well-designed. The vast majority of people will be content with their gadgets and TV shows, etc. And a lot of the money goes round and round inside the system anyway. The idea that unemployment leads to "not being able to feed them" is quite frankly outlandish. If people can be fed when employed, they can be fed when unemployed also UNLESS the higher employment is based on agriculture and in the lower employment scenario the deficit is not replaced by machines. In other words, people will be fed, relax.
Blake Roberts
I honestly hope for the nationalistic turn in european politics. This way we could finally secure borders, send the most asylum seekers away and start to reindustrialize our economies. Yes, we will not create the same amount of jobs, we've had before, due to the automation, but we will be more productive and in control of the production of goods. What we COULD outsource is the mass agriculture. More place for the nature and organic agriculture in Europe and the rest we could grow in Africa and other poor regions with good climate. That would stabilize those regions and prevent mass exodus from there.
Michael Hall
>Economists predict There's your problem, listening to people who use 100 or so data points in a stochastic model which requires millions of data points to make even slightly accurate predictions.
Joshua Stewart
I've watched butchers slaughter livestock like ISIS slaughters humans. If you gave people with their mindset guns and told them to patrol the border and keep shitskins out none would get through.
Christian Roberts
>I'm afraid that this migration crisis may be the beginning of a major trend
It is. The migration crisis not going to end. The utopian notions of a 21st century globalist world is rapidly being eroded and destroyed by reality. Many refugees are not from a warzone like syria and Afghanistan but just a shitty state like Eritrea or sub-saharan african states.
Either:
-Their countries get better and more democratic and economically prosperous [This will not happen. You already see once democratic or pseudo democratic states rapidly falling back into presidente for life situations. Not everyone is going to be China or Singapore/Korea. In fact notice a trend of all the tiger/rapid improving countries being East Asian? Hmm I wonder why] or -European countries get shittier than their homeland.
(Or the obvious where you just secure the borders).
Jayden Rogers
Look at how mad the Alt Right and other extremist groups are already getting? Clearly we have seen that people lash out when they know they are the losers in society. This isn't going away its just begun we're now seeing the first stragglers left behind by a digital economy.
Gavin Young
Jokes on them, if Europe gets a billion migrants it will have such catastrophics environmental consequences that Europe will be more uninhabitable compared to where the migrants are coming from.
Charles Stewart
In the 1700s we were about to lose our jobs to automation, in the 1800s we were about to lose our jobs to automation, in the 1900s we were about to lose our jobs to automation, shit's not going to happen, it's a tired routine and a scare tactic the economy always creates new uses for capital as long as it isn't restrained.
Ryan Sullivan
Millions of people DID lose their jobs due to automation, first in agriculture then in manufature... Why do you think nowadays most of us live in big cities and work in the so called "service" sector? Fucking retard.
Lucas King
Actually China is the one who's entire GDP is based on exporting, we'll just let people starve in India.
Also our population is reducing, in 10 of India's state out of 28. Only 4-5 consists of half the population, so if anything happens there not our problem btw those 4-5 states are upto 40% muslim and 30-40% of dalits.
Developed states (Entire South India & 10-12 North Indian states) population is the same of German's birth rate, you can look it up on wikipedia to confirm.
Jace Peterson
Tell me again how India is doomed sharters
Dylan Watson
when do we start grinding the poor brown people into soylent green?
Angel Phillips
It should honestly be called the Servant Sector because it more accurately reflects the social and economy consequences. I foresee that with further automation most humans will have to become 24/7 maids to the few lucky rich individuals in order to find any kind of employment.
Brody Thomas
a fucking wagon wheel
Eli Taylor
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Jayden Sanders
Do you realize that we're at the limit of Moore's law? That we can't make transistors smaller than some atoms? Electronics are going to hit a hard wall.
Benjamin Turner
I'm not saying Europe is going to get fucked by automation. The fact is, Europe is in a healthy position to take advantage of these emerging technologies, if European government act smartly, as most of the big companies in Europe have their headquarters in Europe, and are owned by European nationals. It's those countries that are overly dependant on foreign companies for jobs and investments, and create products for the European and North American markets, who are going to be fucked the most.
Thomas Foster
WHAT DOES FUCKING SITUATIONS ON SOME OTHER FUCKING COUNTRIES GOT TO DO WITH MY COUNTRY? So what, we had hundred thousand wars through history and we didn't welcome losers.
Zachary Garcia
Lol. You've never heard of election spin computing, 3D monolithic "skyscraper" chips that has the potential to be a thousand times more powerful than current chips (news.stanford.edu/2015/12/09/n3xt-computing-structure-120915/) Carbon nanotube transistors. In fact, just recently, they created a carbon nanotube and molybdenum disulfide transister that was 10 times small than the 10 mm cannonlake.
Not to mention, machine learning chips or ASICs is currently going through hyper Moores law, which is more than doubling the performance of specialised AI chips every two years.
Anyone who knows anything about the state of computing knows that silicon isn't the end of the road for computer power.
Ethan Butler
Poverty and experiencing war is the greatest Redpill. Europe is too comfortable and complacent.
Carson Brown
Poverty and experiencing war is the greatest Redpill. Europe has become too comfortable and complacent.
Oliver Martinez
Because good paying jobs are constantly being destroyed by statist policy and the international banking circuit feeding the jewish power-elite. Jobs go from one sector to another, they dont disappear.
Bentley Jenkins
But robots have the potential to be a magnitude more productive than humans, so soon enough 10 robots will be more productive than 100 sweatshop workers. Also, there's a lot of incentives for corporations to bring factories closer to their targeted market because of ease of logistics and potential tax breaks. It takes months for products to be shipped from China to the US. And even third world niggers now expect a decent living wage. Look at China for example. Their wages have been increasingly for 10 straight years.
Grayson Davis
There is no solution to the automation problem. None. Technology removes humans for problem solving. Eventually you don't need the humans at all for the task, even if its thinking or design. Ownership of resources is the only defence against becoming utterly irrelevant against the who ever owns the machines.
