Would this be good or bad and why?
Would this be good or bad and why?
Good because the only whites living there are hippies commies.
American crime will drop alot by letting California go
National divorce and occupying California (#OccupyCalifornia?) are both good.
The border would have to be sealed, of course.
>Dems never win an election again
let them go, reconquer the state, split it up in several new states so it'll never have power again.
also genocide some people when invading it
Cut it in half and let south california go. The big businesses will flee to the rest of america to escape the import taxes and the libtards will die off
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this is the big one. democrats start off with 200 electoral votes. without california, they'd need to win half the swing states just to make it to 200.
and they'd never win the popular vote again. ever
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Bad in the short term but good in the long term
It would take time to adjust to it but in the end America will benefit greatly by cutting off the foundation of the democratic party
It will be a good day, especially for non Americans.
Americans will be able to uncuck themselves while the rest of the world would see a disintegration of the largest competative market in the world.
That means it would be easier for the rest of us to compete with America economically. Less international corporations would find their home in America and high-education emigrants from our countries would stop emigrating to USA.
If it were to go that route, it sounds like that would also be a benefit for American consumers and burgers who are small business owners.
It would be a bunch of jews and spics taking the land, I'd kill them all than give it up.
Let it go, collapse into a shithole and then invade with deathsquads...
It would turn into Escape from L.A. but with cartels. They should quit now so we can wrap the wall around them too.
America is a consumerist-globalist shithole, hell, even Europe is breddy bad.
The reason most of the largest corporations come from California is.
>Low taxes
>Large consumerism-oriented market
>Educated workforce import, American "local migration" culture
Now if California would secede and commies got their way, taxes would rise.
Market would be desintegrated, which means that people from US would have to pay import tax on Californian products. Californian companies lose 240mil people (80%) from their market.
Migrations would start getting quite complicated.
I think many international corporations would leave California at that point.
does american constitution give the right to any state to secede whenever it wants?
I noticed today leftist are pushing the narrative that CalExit is the work of Steve Bannon. That its being use to make the west coast/cali seem unamerican lol.
Bad. I hate California, but maintaining complete control of both coastlines is what makes the US such a powerful country. Without control of California the us loses its competitive advantage in international trade.
Good. We can invade California with a casus belli. This gives the rest of the country free rain to fuck California's shit up for destabilizing the housing market everywhere and being complete assfucks to the locals. It also removes their political power on a national stage while having the US government control both coastlines
More good. CA after being beaten would be balkanized into more states with competing interests to prevent them from ever presenting an existential threat to Us hedgemony again.
Only Texas has that right
>California exits the US
>Gets invaded and annexed immediately
>Republicans forever gain a free 55 votes every 4 years.
Good for everyone:
>California gets to elect politicians who better represent their ideals
>With a smaller population and 50 something electoral votes out, USA gets to elect politicians closer to their views
>Everyone is happier
But, if we go on what would actually happen:
>Democrats never win another elections
>USA loses many companies and money
>California elects a Bernie Sanders right off the bat, and try to achieve the european socialist dream
>Without enough money, and taxing and regulating companies to the bone, they fail expectacularly
>Companies flee to the more free neighbor USA
>Open immigration with Mexico and big welfare settles California's failure
>Everyone finds a way to blame the USA for it
>USA starts to give them aid money so they don't starve to death, which is just used to further increase the state and the welfare, perpetuating the cycle of economical colapse
why specifically texas and not the other states that joined lately, like CA?
How long would they survive, though?
Ameribros is it true cali is just a desert draining water from somewhere else in the us?
kek maybe a few days? California can't into agriculture, AFAIK
Dude, what?
Cali is the breadbasket of the US. It generates more agricultural revenue than most countries.
oh rip. I really thought it was mostly the midwest/South that dealt with that.
The Midwest generates more in raw tonnage, but you can grow all the expensive shit in Cali, leading to a strong agricultural economy. Not that it would help much if they became a nation.
Yeah #Calexit is just a Facebook meme for likes. If my state and the faggots inside it somehow secede California from the rest of the US I'm going to commit a mass chimp out the likes on which nobody could anticipate. I'm not going to allow these brainwashed media monkeys to ruin my life. I hate my state.
Nebraska/Kansas/Oklahoma/Texas/etc. in charge of bread, meat, and corn.
California in charge of oranges and almonds.
I think we'll all survive without them.
nope, cali creates about 1/3 of the country's entire food supply
Don't forget apples/potatoes in WA, OR, and ,ID
12.8% by dollar value according to wikipedia, and that's only because of wine/grapes.
The worst thing that happens (to non-alcoholics) if California fucks off is all the poor schoolkids who like orange juice will have to switch to apple juice.
It would be amazing. In a sense it would give whites back their full political representation that was stolen from them by a growing mestizo population who have and will forever vote left.
Without non-whites, Democrats would cease to win presidential elections.
If that happens california will split in half. With tbe exception of weed norcal is red as any.
Good because these fucktards would realize that Commiefornia would NOT be able to survive on its own if it were to leave the union. Besides, (((they))) wouldn't let such a big playing chit leave.
It would be hilarious. A welfare state with open boarders would be glorious to watch burn
Yes, join us Jefferson
People outside California hate it, people inside California don't like Trump. Win win for both sides.
then just leave ya doof
if it was possible for them to succeed you probably would of hears more about it but California has the most problems of any state. That and the only decent part with agricultural value would want to stay. It would probably divide and the south would go. Which I think we'd all be fine with that.
Bad for both sides, but much more so for them.
They're our highest earning state, but they're almost completely dependent on government handouts, have almost no water, and have crippling homelessness.
From what I know, Texas has that right since it joined the system freely, despite their independence, and being a special case they got some special perks.
it seems the wall will have to be a bit longer...
It'll be great. Democrats will never win national office again, and we can plunge that lefty shithole into murderous chaos with no food or water. When there's nothing left of it, we can conquer it all over again.