If Hillary were elected & implemented anything unconstitutional, she'd be burned at the stake by redskins & most everyone else because Democrats & even Liberals respect that the president needs to abide by the "rules".
So why is it okay to Trump supporters if Trump does it? Are they really this delusional?
FUCK OFF YOU CREW FAGGOT FUCK OFF YOU CREW FAGGOT FUCK OFF YOU CREW FAGGOT
Connor Cooper
Bait, but when he does do something unconstitutional we'll talk about it
Ethan Johnson
Clearly bait thread but gonna respond. Trump has done nothing Unconstitutional. Hillary broke the rules the moment she entered politics, Taking Millions from the middle east as "gifts" to Holding Classified Documents on a Unsecured server which got hacked. Then if she did get to be president she would of implemented a no fly zone in syria which would end in a war with russian because only way to but no fly zone into effect is to put troops in the ground which would force Russia to retaliate. so ye keep complaining its gonna be a fun 8 years
Hunter Lopez
Even if you don't like it, nothing that Trump has done so far has been unconstitutional.
Adrian Sullivan
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Robert Butler
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Jordan Russell
The Establishment Clause forbids the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” As the Supreme Court explained in 1982’s Larson v. Valente, “the clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another.” This constitutional requirement, the court noted, is “inextricably connected with the continuing vitality of the Free Exercise Clause,” guaranteeing religious liberty for all by barring “favoritism among sects.” The court has also declared that the government may not “aid or oppose any religion. This prohibition is absolute.”
Jason Martinez
>done nothing un-Constitutional
Just like y'all are still somehow Christians despite shaving your beards, eating shellfish, and wearing mixed fabrics.
Jaxon Evans
What did he do again?
Julian Williams
But Its Not a religion ban if it was it would be all Muslim countries its banning countries the same way obama did but for 90days instead of 180. so go complain about how obama wasn't impeached while u are at it
Christian Walker
The Constitution only applies to US citizens. The Constitution also gives the president the power to control the borders of the country and to ban any group of people he thinks deserve it.
Owen Perry
Name 1 unconstitutional thing he has done.
Mason Adams
Politics is essentially "It's fine if my side does it"
Angel Butler
I like how OP is already wrong because of Bill Clinton.
Joshua Price
everything he does is unconstitutional...
...in my head
Oliver Cook
Muslim Ban is unconstitutional by the Equal Protection clause, First amendment, due process, Habeas Corpus, and Family Reuinification Rights
It's leaves out countries that don't affect his business... also abuse of power
Ryder Ramirez
Green card holders & dual citizens are denied re-entry to the country. They're not citizens?
Lincoln Moore
So did he ban muslims?
Levi Lopez
Hmm I wonder who could be behind this post
Cameron Hill
You are the biggest msm shill i have even seen yes he does happen to businesses in these countries but the other countries are either trading with use with syria and the pipeline or they are less of a threat
Zachary Rivera
The list of high risk countries affected by the ban was compiled by DHS under Obama
Oliver Rivera
U.S*
Brayden Anderson
But he didn't do any of what you claim, you must be a bit slow, he didn't ban Muslims, the fact that there are still Muslims coming into the US clearly proves how wrong you are. On top of that the "unconstitutional banning of people from certain countries" was also done (though less severe) by king nigger. I would suggest you read up on that Lawbook you have, listen to the press conference of the white house and come back later.
Levi Fisher
What part of the constitution says that? Either of those.
Leo Cruz
Trump’s own comments amply support this interpretation of the order. Throughout his campaign, Trump repeatedly called for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.” He also effectively admitted that he would dress up his Muslim ban in the pretense of a neutral immigration restriction.
Just because you don't outright call it what it is, it doesn't change it, especially with all of the evidence from his campaign of him talking about "Our Muslim problem". If you think differently, I guarantee if Hillary pulled the same bullshit, you would call her out the same way. I'm not vouching for Hillary though, fuck her too... it's just become so Red vs. Blue that I use that as an example. Too many people believe what they want in the midst of all of this & disregard anything that goes against that.
Adrian White
HERE'S A LIST OF THE CTR SHILLS NAMES AND ADDRESSES.
Camden Wright
what is a redskin? >pls no bully
Colton Carter
So? he said that? He Has done something along those line and thats only because Muslims are in that country u fail to understand there are still Muslims entering america
Robert Morris
They're not covered by the constitution in any case. An American doesn't have the right to free speech if they're in Yemen.
Jaxson Price
an native american is what i believe it is
Nathaniel Nguyen
The vicious, hateful, misogynistic, xenophobic, islamophobic, transphobic, anti-Black, ableist people in the Trump administration have moved quickly to attack all of our communities, exactly as they said they would.
Connor Morales
No shit. That's the point. Nobody's blind to the reason why he did it , point is that he didn't break the law.
Carter Gutierrez
Yes Obama listed the countries as "Sources of Terror", but didn't enact it.
Ethan Sanchez
Republican
Ethan Rogers
are u this dumb. he did and for double the time trump has asked for
Nathaniel Morris
See And explain how he didn't break any laws
Michael Scott
If this is true then we should soon see stable countries that are majority Islamic (Indonesia, Malaysia, Germany, Sweden) added to the ban list soon.
Wouldn't the more sensible explanation be that this ban list is pragmatic political action rather than actions based on whatever existential threat Islam taken seriously causes?
Leo Moore
Can u not admit u may be wrong
Jackson Hall
>abide by the rules
2/10
Kevin Hernandez
President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months after two Al-Qaeda terrorists from Iraq were found living in Kentucky.
It was strictly Iraq
Luis Sanders
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Isaiah Reyes
>he banned Muslims >the constitution applies to non citizens on foreign soil
You really fired your neurons for this one, didnt you?
Luke Foster
How does if feel to know right wing death squads will be knocking on your door, right after we kill all the niggers, spics and muslims? Maybe if your lucky we won't murder your wife and kids.
Juan Peterson
Your pasta is already stale
Liam Phillips
If that happens, then my proposal isn't even a question, but this was just something I've been considering.
I never said I may not be wrong, I'd just like more elaboration when you say "It's not unconstitutional" after I've listed everything I think it goes against & you don't tell me why it doesn't.
Jason Ortiz
>(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President >Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
I thought you were going to post something relevant. But you posted something about religion instead. WTF is wrong with your brain?
Lucas Morales
>We lol, sure kid
Lincoln Turner
>They're not citizens
They're residents you stupid fuck.
The dual citizen issue was people with A PASSPORT FROM THE HIGH THREAT COUNTRIES and another NON AMERICAN passport.
Jesus fucking Christ.
A temporary ban on 7 high threat countries isn't a "Muslim ban" you stupid fuck. The countries with the highest population of Muslims in the world are still free to to enter.
Adam Perry
The ban is clearly religion based unless you can give me another good reason behind it
Anthony Rogers
Banning Muslims who are not already in the US does not violate the Equal Protections clause because they have to be inside the US for the Equal Protections clause to even take effect. It says no state can deny equal protection of the law to anyone IN THEIR JURISDICTION. That last part is very important.
First Amendment rights are also only given to those inside the US whether citizen or not.
Due process doesn't apply because they are not being imprisoned or having property taken from them.
Habeus corpus doesn't apply because they are not being charged with a crime. They are just being barred entrance to the US. You do realise the US has banned specific people from the country without a trial in the US right? To name a few Lily Allen, Liza Maza, Boy George, Madchild. All of these were banned from the US for either alleged problems or because they were facing a trial in another country in the world. They were banned before a trial ever happened in the cases of trial.
Family Reunification Rights are not a 100% right. Only a full citizen or permanent resident can sponsor someone to immigrate based on those laws and they are not there to let you back in if you leave on a visa that temporarily allows you to stay in the US. If you leave on the temporary visa and something changes in foreign policy during that time your visa will be suspended. Temporary visas work like that.
Kevin Garcia
So you admit that the middle east is an area where terrorists come from? OK thanks, time to end this thread.
Christopher Cruz
ITS NOT A RELIGIOUS BAN OH MY GODDDDDDDDD WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE AHHHHHHHHHHHH
Oliver Adams
>Family Reuinification Rights A quick search says this is a European Union concept. What exactly are you referring to? Are you an EU spy?
The other things listed don't apply to this order.
Bentley Torres
It doesn't make sense to me for Trump to not ban Malaysia or Indonesia if his goal is banning of Islam then.
It looks more like he's mitigating potential harm from unstable/uncooperative countries that the U.S. does not have political power over rather than straight concern over religious prejudice.
Parker Ross
Known areas with extremism. Sorry m8 your out fixed here it's not a Muslim ban
Nolan Perez
US protections only apply on US soil. Once you exist the US you are on your own unless you can get into a US embassy. If you can then you are back on US soil and regain your rights as a citizen. But if you have to leave US soil to come back to the continental US as in the case of being at an embassy you again lose your rights. This is why you can't always get back into the US from another country even if you make it into the embassy.
Owen Ortiz
This is a good answer, thank you, I wasn't aware that Equal Protections clause was only "in jurisdiction"
They have come from there before. They have also come from American soil. Time to end this thread, yeah?
Nicholas Murphy
>because Democrats & even Liberals respect that the president needs to abide by the "rules".
Made me lel. Where's the upvote button?
Andrew Robinson
dude, its never Treason when Republicans do it, they are the true patriots remember? Reagan bribed terrorists to get elected, a clear case of treason, but he is worshipped as a god.
Bentley Gray
>refugees
Eli Green
die fascist scum
Ian Nguyen
Can't wait to see you on the street during the civil war commie fuck.
Nicholas Ramirez
No problem at all there. I will debate anyone Democrat, Republican, anytime when someone isn't seeing the entirety of what a law or part of the Constitution states. Not everyone is an expert of the law and I don't claim to be one either but everyone has the potential to learn more and by debating I learn more in the process as well. So win/win for all those involved as long as they are open for that.
Hudson Price
>You aren't letting terrorists in to fuck my wife and blow me up? TREASON
This isn't really an arguement. it's not even a sentence
Jayden Jones
And terrorists on American soil get killed or arrested. What's your point? Banning 7 countries for 90 days will not hurt you or any of your friends, my man. You can relax. Stop being hysterical just to be hysterical.
Liam Jackson
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching him crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
Henry Jenkins
That was my point with this thread, I only talked down to Trump Supporters because I wanted to see if I'd just get insults or actually learn something.
The biggest reason why I have to oppose Trump's decision with this order is because my girlfriend's father was seeing family when it was put through & is now unable to re-enter back to his immediate family. It's really heartbreaking & I know most people in support of it wouldn't have such a firsthand experience with the negative effect of something like this as I have, which is why I was even looking into whether it's constitutional or not. I will admittedly say that I am more of a "moralfag" than not, which is where Trump supporters will shit on me, but I don't mind, I really don't belong on Sup Forums or Sup Forums in general either way.
Nathaniel Barnes
He didn't ban Muslims, he banned people from entering from 7 countries, please tell us where it states that only Muslims fall under his restriction.
Brody Adams
like we give a shit yu want to race mix and cry later. hahahahaahah FUCK YOU move to europe they got signs
Jordan King
the law also says its illegal to kill, which a certain religion promotes
Dominic Rodriguez
is somehoww druooois i mean waycism iwwegewwllw spit spoit
Caleb Watson
Media caught you on that one, real Islam doesn't promote killing, but anything taken to a radical extreme can be used as a device to justify it.
Afraid of a little race mixing?
Aiden Diaz
Uh too late he already has them.
Daniel Gomez
That seems really unlikely, if he has a green card he is free to enter after a check which can be performed abroad. If he doesn't have one he can come back in 90 days, this might be harsh but not unconstitutional.
Luke Russell
Saved
Carter Smith
he is still technically breaking the Geneva convention by refusing to harbor fugitives
Justin Nelson
>the same way obama did when will this meme end? obama halted new visas from being issued until recipients could be properly vetted, trump's EO stops people who were already approved from getting in. Do you seriously not see the difference here?
Isaiah Martin
redskin is an old term for Native Americans that is now considered racist to pussies on the left.
Thomas Butler
A "pussy from the left" just used it to describe you
Nolan Sullivan
except when religious fundamentalism is bad the fundament of the religion is bad the media didnt trick me you can read it yourself faggot
Michael Barnes
It's religion based because it allows 90% of the Muslim country's to visit the USA? Because it does. It only bans inhabitants of 7 nations that allow terrorist training camps.
Henry Flores
its cool how the media notices whenever yuo feel like fucking saying something.
Isaac Sanchez
>real Islam doesn't promote killing It does, just because many people decided to believe in it less doesn't make it so.
Adrian Mitchell
Who then will, or has to, prove that the fugitives are indeed fugitives and not an undercover army?
Robert Myers
SAGE CTR SHILL POST
Connor Bailey
do you have a point? jesus also said he came not with peace but a sword.
Alexander Cook
Leftists who oppose this
Israel is a racist apartheid state who has illegal Jewish ONLY settlements in the west bank where the border walls are wrapping around them inside Palestinian land in an obvious land grab. youtube.com/watch?v=Pp1wVPeg59Q
This is why terrorism happens and why the rest of the west gets blowback from it.
Israel builds these settlements on top of Palestinian villages that they have bulldozed by the military. youtube.com/watch?v=EC6C-cAc240
If you support Israel you are not a leftist. End of Story.
This blonde girl was run over on purpose by an Israeli military bulldozer while trying to stop them from destroying a village to make room for Jewish only settlements youtube.com/watch?v=ZjuweNjJwrk
This is Bernie Sanders exploding on a liberal girl for daring to question the apartheid state of Israel
false equivelancy, the quran has a higher concentration of violent chapters, and christians arent murdering in the thousands
Jeremiah Jenkins
Its not unconstitutional, most Muslim majority countries are not banned from travel. The ban is temporary. Its almost the exact same ban that Obama imposed on iraq for 6 months.
Actually US laws have specifically been drafted to allow what he is doing and Obama was known for carrying out the same act. So being an ill informed libfag doesn't excuse you. If you throw a fucking baby tantrum every time a redpill does something a blue pill does, its just you being a faggot.
8 US code 1182 "(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Holy fuck. Someone with a brain.
Camden Ortiz
If you take the name of the file, remove the m and use that image as the file name in a link to 4chans image storage you will get the bigger version.
Luis Howard
You just admitted that he's right and Islam does promote killing.
Chase Rivera
>Its not unconstitutional
Oh? :^)
Wyatt Scott
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
Adam Cox
sodom gomorra 2 entire godamn towns gone. somehow. moron idiot. go suck jew dicks