Yes, this is early, but what is Sup Forums's prediction on the 2020 election?
Who do you guys think the Democrats will nominate for the race?
I'm trying to make a pre-emptive map now, which I'll store on a USB drive and dump much closer to the 2020 race. Convince me which states will go which color(left the swingers uncolored) and I'll color it in.
Will post final map sometime later today.
Rust Belt will stay Red, jobs are coming back and manufacturing plants are already kicking up and its Day 10
FL could go either way, you should wait until the midterms
NH goin Red in 2020, so will ME-2
AZ staying Red, they will love the border wall
NV, CO, NM probably blue, maaaaybbe NM will flip but CO is too lib and NV is full of spics
Iowa and Minnesota will go Red, mark my words
NC gonna stay red, and VA might flip unless the Dems pick another Virginia Senator as VP
Rust belt will hold.
MN will finally be red. Trump only lost it by 2%. After 4 years of winning it will finally flip.
All of the grey states will go red with the possible exceptions of NM, ME, and VA.
Serious question as an Aussie myself, why the fuck do we care? I can't rationalise my enjoyment of watching alex jones and listening to ben shapiro. I get loving listening to milo or paul joseph watson, sargon, bearing, but why should I care about US politics? Why do you lads?
What will the midterms in Florida indicate for 2020?
In reference, this was my personal prediction for the election, but I may be heavily optimistic.
MN won't go red, that's a pipe dream
otherwise that's not bad
MN was a closer vote than Ohio this election.
>california
>still in the union
because they own you and you have a sensible interest in who will own you next
Well you used to own us, and them, and if they own us, it will simply be another colony america now owns.
New Zealand politics is very, very boring. 2017 elections are going to hold my interest for about three months before I start obsessing about the US again.
Also, my dream is to move to the States, so I like to keep up to date with the affairs.
Gubernatorial elections, if they elect another Republican it'll probably go red, but Scott is term-limited and the vote might swing enough because they want "change", wouldn't bode well for Trump
stay red
>2/3 of the rust belt (Out of Wisconsin/Michigan/PA I think the Democrats will double down and manage to take one)
>North Carolina
stay blue
>New Mexico
>Colorado
>Nevada
up for grabs/battleground states
>New Hampshire/Maine
>Florida
>Virginia
>Minnesota (least likely)
California will go Red
U.S. politics is arguably more important than our local politics
Look how Turnbull completely bent at the knee and cucked for Trump on the 7 blacklisted countries Muslim ban, Bishop too - There is NO way they would have put anything like that in place here, they are all cucks for the US
So 25 seats up for grabs of which only 8 are Republican and with many of the Democrat seats in states won by Trump - barring some amazing turnaround the GOP should comfortably win a supermajority.
Given the brass balls shown by Trump's administration so far, his blitzkrieg of efficiency and ACTUALLY DELIVERING ON PROMISES and the continuing descent into ever greater levels of insanity by the Democrats it's hard to see anything but another epic win for the God Emperor in 2018.
You really want to move there? what for? Need a housemate?
There won't even be a 2020 at this point when Trump causes WW3
Where do you live?
Reminder to ignore CTR, friendos. We have good discussion going on in here, let's not let them succeed in derailing us.
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Optimistic m8. The media has 4 years to turn Trump into literal Adolf Hitler. It won't convince a single actually struggling white worker from Michigan etc. which is why they will remain red. But Minnesota and Maine might just be well-off enough to fall for the liberal propaganda, perhaps also Arizona. In return, Trump will win the rust belt with an even bigger margin.
Tbqh, maybe with minor changes
I want to move there since I see it as a very good path for my career choice(Finance and International Business). I would want to go to New York but that place is expensive as fuck as I've heard. Also, I love the American culture quite a bit, especially their influence on the world.
Im gonna say the democrats wont nominate anyone in 2020 because their party will be toast, with all the scandals that will come to light soon, think pizza and trumps huge investigation into voter fraud that will reveal he won the popular vote not just the EC
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I agree, especially with the 'my job is to shut down white people'
i think its unlikely that virginia and colorado will go red
Don't say it like a bad thing, it's great. One of my personal activities in my off time is to shit talk white Democrats against PoC Democrats and poor Democrats against the middle/upper class champagne socialist Democrats.
Identity politics is not their weapon, it's their demise
every single county in nevada had a republican swing from 2012 to 2016
not sure if thats indicative of any trend, but i think its still up for grabs
Georgia going blue?!
Why GA and NC blue? That seems really quite unrealistic, especially with FL red on your map.
I'm more worried about 2018 than 2020. Trump needs a Republican majority Congress. The presidential election is all but Certain anyway because the Democrat party is in tatters and despite all of the "appearances" of unity, the reality is that Democrats are just doubling down on the old rhetoric that put them where they are to begin with so they won't achieve much. They still don't have a snowball's chance in hell without a center candidate to draw in moderates, so a berncuck candidate wouldn't do it for them.
After Trump? We'd be lucky if texas went red
Another reminder to ignore CTR.
Georgia and North Carolina won't be blue anytime soon. Colorado has too many Californian expats to ever go red again and Nevada is a tossup but likely to go back blue
This is my prediction
doing gods work user
Optimistic, but not totally out of the realm of probability.
MN was incredibly close this year. If they crack down on voter fraud, illegal immigration, and bring enough jobs back, I guarantee red MN.
Shit, it went red for Nixon, didn't it?
Latinos are starting to flip those states. Ofc it's just a prediction, and I'm quite pessimistic on the East coast's future, but it must be considered.
FL is Trump's "second home state". He has a much larger popularity there.
> Double down and manage to take one of the rust belt states
What? I can see
> return to their roots and manage to take one
Doubling down at this juncture means turning the rust belt deep red.
Nevada and Colorado are closer than you might think.
MN and FL will definitely swing red.
Republicans defending 9, Democrats defending 23.
Doesn't look good for them, as long as Trump doesn't completely fuck up and a little meme magic from Kek and it should be a foreshadowing of the downfall of the Democrats in 2020.
Using identity politics to fasten the decline would help 100x though.
And how about the crackdown on sanctuary cities, and it is often the case for voters in the region that Hispanics can change sides if the vote looks good.
Minnesota will flip hard RED. They almost went republican in 2016.
Somalis are the ultimate redpill.
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Most likely map right here. Virginia/New Mexico/Colorado would be the next to flip. Illinois/California/New York are the least likely to flip. I could see Oregon/Washington going red in the unlikely scenario that liberals appreciate what Trump has done, rather than calling him a racist regardless.
MT, ND, OH, MO, IN blue? I'm quite unfamiliar with that map, what's this?
This. 53% of Cubans voted for Donald Trump.
I think more and more Hispanics will go red as the illegals get deported, the situation in the inner cities improves, and the left continues to lump them all in with the illegals and criminals.
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Philadelphia and Michigan were incredibly close, one of the reasons Trump won all 3 was because the Democrats took them as a given and didn't bother there, for example Hillary didn't visit Wisconsin for like 8 months leading up to the election - They depend on the rust belt and won't make that mistake again, I think you could expect them to pick up 1 out of the 3 if they actually campaigned there like Trump did, especially if they got a PoC for 2020 to appeal to those in Detroit/Philadelphia.
Nevada is just getting more and more Hispanic, Colorado is just more and more DUDE WEED Cali transplants - I reckon Virginia is way closer than either of those.
Minnesota more likely than those above I agree though.
Red = states Republicans are defending
Blue = states Democrats are defending
It's the states that go up in the gubernatorials in 2018. 23 Democratic States and 9 Republican ones. If it's good for Republicans, the Democratic party will be BTFO in some of those 23 and Republicans will keep their hold.
How did the states I listed went Democrat?
If it is a landslide Trump victory (about 10 pnts) expect smth like this, unlikely states go red. Love the lad but I doubt 10 will be possible.
See Trump might actually win a few blue states with only 37-44ish percent of the vote though. I could see the Democratic party fracturing because they are in ruins right now. If a feasible third party popped up, it'd split the votes enough to let Trump coast to 400+ EVs easily.
Doubt that rural IL will ever outperform Chinkago
you're the shittiest social engineer ever if you think this is going to do anything. You would need to spread rumors of who is running before doing this. I hope your plans backfire for having bad intentions.
This is Congress or some other minor government eelction not from the 2016 election for president
Yeah also lets keep in mind whites usually show up in mid terms too. Democrats are so fucked. They hitched their wagon on minorities that have zero interest in elections other than the national one.
Another thing is election demographics are different than actually demographics, whites are about 70-80% of the national vote but only 60% of actual demographic of the USA
But Latinos are leaving the Dems for the GOP - slowly, but surely.
Trump won them by 10 points more than Romney, and by even more in Florida (Cubans and the Hispanic Gen Zed).
Ikr, that's the Senate from '12
This sounds good to me. As long as Republicans hold control of Congress, I'm happy.
>WA
>blue
Top kek
I've lived in WA my entire life
it will be blue
Those are the results from that time, yes, hence the red states are states the Republicans are defending and blue states are the states the Democrats are defending
I think Washington is going to stay blue, unfortunately.
WA and OR will soon be tired of identity politics while being one of the most white states. But unfortunately that won't be in 2020. Seattle and Portland are way too cucked yet.
Take a look at the senate race
It's going to be a Scott vs Nelson showdown
That decides FL 2020
Mhmm. Hopefully we'll see that voter shift as they realize that they are going to be persecuted because of their race. Those extra 19 electoral college votes would be incredibly beneficial to the GOP.
> as long as Trump doesn't completely fuck up
I got some news for you buddy
True. That's why it'd be good if Minnesota would turn red and Maine's ratios would be GOP 3 - Dems 1 (The first congressional district seems to be quite far from being able to reach, but hey, 2 extra points are more than nothing)
Go on
People are tired of Trump.
But the Democrats did learn nothing and will field Clinton YET AGAIN, and rig the primaries for her YET AGAIN.
Third party will clutch this.
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Kek, they said the same for '16, and then it came to nothing
Third parties are incompetent
The Muslim ban has cost him a lot of political capital and is hemorrhaging experienced personnel from all executive agencies.
I'd wager that he's going to be impeached and removed before he can server 4 years
All three of them staying blue isn't a given with how close the race was.
Clinton+Stein vs. Trump+Johnson+McMullin
Colorado 1,377,307 - 1,375,522
Nevada 539,260 - 549,442
New Mexico - 395,113 - 400,033
LOLBERITERIANS and Mcmullin destroyed Minnesota for Trump.
McCain will split the Republican party and a disgusting majority of Congress Republicans (both in the House and the Senate) will work against Trump.
This will not bode well for the voter base, they will support Trump and make sure he will be fielded for reelection. The Republican civil war will take a toll though.
Meanwhile in the Democrat party, elite liberals have learned nothing and will continue being unworldly and blame others for their current crisis of not holding the office. If not for McCain, Trump's reelection would be all but guaranteed.
Texas is going blue, Drumpf is done for.
>30%
McCain is an old delusional faggot who was destroyed in 2008 and has like two or three years left.
The GOP will unite behind Trump.
>delusional faggot
That's exactly the problem. And it's not like he's alone, he's just the face, there are other traitors like Lindsay Graham.
He can't show up a base besides 75< old carreer politicians who still believe that the Bush way is the only walkable one for the GOP, while they got fucked up two times to Obama with that mentality.