Here is the final redpill:

Here is the final redpill:

All of this madness: Trump, Brexit, MGTOW, etc. has been caused by a single factor. That factor is DIGITAL ADDICTION.

When you walk around outside, you see "normal people". But that's a red herring. Many people now have no friends. Everything in their life involves using a computer. They constantly fight their internet addiction and usually lose. They make life progress in rare moments of self-awareness.

People like this didn't come from nowhere, they were created by digital technology acting as a superstimulus. We are almost helpless, and in our helplessness we become bitter.

Normies will keep demonising "losers", right up until it happens to their own children. Then they will understand. But it will be too late.

Is Sup Forums right? Does it matter? Sup Forums is angry at a world which turned them into zombies. The true fury is a fury at the fact that society doesn't recognise what it has done.

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>right wing internet addicts are angry about and combating against internet addiction

sure thing bud

They are though.

They are so helpless that they want something horrific and earth-shattering to happen just so that they'll get enough adrenaline to change their life. This is the unspoken subtext of Sup Forums.

It's a perfectly rational strategy.

ok, so memeing donald trump into the white house will achieve this how?

Civil war. Mass violence. Maybe an explosion will happen nearby and shock them off the computer.

A hundred million people voted in the american election and reddit couldn't even get over a million subscribers for Bernie & Trump combined. Even Hillary's 10,000 can't put them over the top. This place has no relevance.

I agree with you that there is a substantial contingent of this board (myself included and I suspect you too) who believe that we chose the wrong future, that the decline of traditional modes of life and family values have left us all worse off. But I'm not convinced many of us believe we can do anything about it.

>All of this madness: Trump, Brexit, MGTOW, etc. has been caused by a single factor. That factor is DIGITAL ADDICTION.
No. It's one of the factor. Overall the result of a decaying society. One in which more and more people are demoralized and are checking out (in whatever way that they can). Some start to despise their own culture and do not recognize their own nation as theirs. And we're in the process of replacing its own population by immigrants with a much stronger culture. And in the process of reorganizing society in such a way that only a small proportion of the population will be actively engaged in it. The others will be cattle on basic income. They might welcome it as first, but in time they will become disenfranchised.

Trump and Brexit didn't happen out of nowhere. There's a (surprisingly) powerful cabal behind it. People who realized that nothing can be fixed until globalism is put on halt.

leaf talking sense

Surprising leaf post hits the nail on the head.

It's so much more painful when you realise real change will be so hard to achieve, isn't it?

Read up on Bannon. He's only getting started. His plan is a huge cultural transformation of the US in the next decade. Now he's still fighting the media, which he considers his primary opposition.

I've got to agree with this, not as the primary reason, but as one of the symptoms.

>That factor is DIGITAL ADDICTION.
Don't even try to sway them. People will just go "oh I'm going to quit soda" or "I'll quit fapping," anything to avoid the elephant in the room that is internet overuse.

Not like it is an entirely new problem either - the TV addicts, are even worse off.
PC addicts, at least "play" often enough some sort of game, which is some sort of activity - or choose from a far greater palette of distractions, be the just netflix, or some sort of comics, mangas or books.
As for TV addicts, their minds just get slathered in inactivity, commercials, and sub-par entertainment.

I'm kinda feel that this is true. Women are addicted to social media, men to porn and we all are addicted to just the general internet influx of information.

Kinda like old school TV addiction but it's 10 times more potent. Dis really isn't good.

>It's so much more painful when you realise real change will be so hard to achieve, isn't it?
Let's all make a pact to quit the internet then

only betas are truly 'addicted' though. addiction in itself is degenerate. unless you're under 20, you better have a life and actual hobbies if you consider yourself a respectable person. my .02

Take the no-tech pill.

Actually did just that a few times. Put my PC in the cellar, got off the grid for all week save for one a two evenings on the weekend, as to catch up on my shows.
Never got done so much as in the first two months, but after that point I just.. slowly slipped back into it.

but how?

Also what if this sort of technology has been destroyed in the past because they experienced the same things we are now.

Life is supposed to be cyclical, so I find it hard to believe that we are the first people confronted with this monstrosity.

So you are fucking stupid. You created a fantastic loop/maze with addicted, but you haven't defined that term.

If you define addiction as:

Hatred for stupid lefty faggots that don't get how math and economics works.

You are probably right.

Otherwise, kill yourself you fucking faggot.

I agree with you.

BUT COME ON Sup Forums, we've been over this many times with our redpills.

The process of controlling a civilization in the modern age boils down to domestication of the populace.

How so? Through distractions and addictions, fear, and tightly controlled narratives.

TV and now the internet are both superb facets of propaganda. But they are more insidious as entertainment addiction sources which cripple and ruin your attention span and limit what you can learn and how you interact.

You no longer have the patience or the willingness to read or pursue greater education beyond school. And school as we have discussed is a method of enforced socialization to train you into being an obedient and useful member of society in whatever caste you were born into.

Add to this the fear of the ever present "enemy" or wrong thought and you have the perfect 1984/Brave New World concoction of control.

To combat this you as an individual must take steps to break your addictions. You must pursue healthier diets consisting of yes, organic food and organic products in general. Home grown is the most preferred. And you must strive to continually educate yourself through reading and learning and questioning. And meditate. It is beneficial to do that once a day.

That's literally the plot of Mother 3.

Great game as well. It's what Sup Forums would call 'red pilled' were it a book.

>> "[The merchant] is the first reflective and free human being to appear in the normal development of social life. He stands isolated as far as possible from all constraining connections, duties or prejudices. ("A merchant, it has been said very properly, is not necessarily the citizen of any country": Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, bk. III, ch. 4; a passage which might be compared with the previously cited statement by the same author, that exchange makes a merchant of every man.) He is free from the ties of community life, and the freer he is, the better it is for him."

>Fassad is someone who is able to move through the community and exert a tremendous force upon its weights and levers without being personally connected or beholden to any of its members. He's the first person in the memory of the village ever to do so. And with the arrival of Fassad, the fabric begins to unravel: community degenerates from union into association, to use more of Tönnies's phrasing.

>It's fitting that Fassad's first act in Tazmily is to exchange Butch a bag of money for a few of his pigs—convincing Butch to trade him something of intrinsic and concrete use-value for something of imaginary exchange-value. And thus his "era of money" begins.

> Before Fassad's arrival, the Tazmilites' relations are wholly direct and personal. The introduction of money into village life ushered an abstract interlocutor into the affairs of its members. When relationships between human beings are arbitrated by an artificial third party, the relationships cease to be entirely authentic; the impersonality of the medium of exchange bleeds into them.

I visit pol to get the raw story on breaking news from assholes like myself. I'm not a NEET, make good money and have a stable girl and social life.

I do want chaos but not because I need a Kickstart, simply because if nothing drastic happens soon then we will be living under complete tyrannical control, I don't want my children to grow up in a world where freedom doesn't exist (or atleast the illusion of freedom)

scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump#from_embed

Shit. I need to play the Mother series.

Yeah, I'd stay inside too if Somalis were living in my neighborhood.

Sup Forums is like high fructose corn syrup mixed with cocaine.

socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=mother3

An awesome analysis on Mother 3. He's done some pretty cool ones about Final Fantasy as well. I liked his highlighted themes about FF7.

all of these are serious fucking issues
matter of fact trump got elected because of awareness spread online.

get a fucking grip. no one is forcing you to get involved in wordly affairs, you do it because you care

Surely imageboard addiction is not having detrimental effects on our world...

I remember back when the internet was mostly offline.

What I mean by that was the simple document structure (remember the 'printable version' of articles and essays?) was well suited to short browsing, then reading it later.

The '*.nws' files that FidoNews used to be distributed in had page-break characters so that it printed well. Even today if you open one of these text documents with the page-break/form-feed character it will split the document for good printing to be read from paper at a later date.

Of course this makes sense as TJ was inspired by telegraphy when he constructed FidoNet.

What kid of pepsi is that. Looks big as fuck.

Astute observation. Only I wish pol/acks were more conscious of this so they could act more rationally.

Accelerationism is the final redpill.

Heh cool. Maybe I should play it before reading this. I keep hearing good stuff about this game.

>imageboard addiction
Dude, I'm addicted to so many things. Video games, coding, politics and conspiracy theories, sci-fi. Mostly due to technology like OP says.

Somebody should come up with something like pic related but for guys like us kek.

>the internet addiction meme

As long as your income is secured, what's the issue?
Yes, let me disconnect from the matrix where i can sift through more info than the human race has ever had and play almost any game ever made so i can adopt a "real" hobby, whatever that may be.

Except that it's far too much information. There's a book by (I believe) Nicholas Carr called The Shallows about how, despite the incredible increase in information we lose the ability for deep thought and digestion.

I wasn't there for the BBS era. Nor the Usenet era. It seemed pretty cool. I started using the Internet in the late 90s. Like a pleb.
>page-break/form-feed character
It's still done sometimes in source code to delimit different logical sections. Some editors can navigate them.

It's fucked up because I haven't played video games in a while but I've substituted it with dumb shit like surfing the chans or procrastinating on my work. I'm a little better at socializing, and act a bit autistic, but I'm still a drone stuck at my computer and I feel worse than when I was playing video games. Even if it was a stupid casual piece of shitware, at least I was at least making stuff happen instead of reading and responding. Not to mention the browsing. The endless, endless browsing.

I know, I was just making a point that these documents were never meant to be read off a screen (a shitty way yo read at the best of times), and that a return to that would be great. Scale the web back so it's more like Gopher.

And there's still BBSs around and Usenet groups that still get some traffic. It really sprung back to life when single-board computers like the Raspberry Pi started to appear. You get about 100 posts a day on some BBSs that used to be dead, as with some MUDs, and all traffic (at least started) with people experimenting with their low-power computers like that.

I once spent a week only using my Pi and it was really fun to browse gophernet, and the web as well, in pure text.

Burger only cares about the sugary drink, nothing to see here

But it still stands that contributing to this detachment people are having from their societies, that is powered in a large portion by technological advancements in technology.

The novelty releases dopamine in your brain, just the same as gaming. (You)s are literally addictive because your brain does a little happy dance whenever people reply. It's why people check their facebook or email every minute: the high they get from a reply.

I did the same as you, where I replaced gaming with shitposting and browsing the 'net' (I say it like that since it's more like a spoked wheel now, where you can spend as much time on the rim as you like, but all paths lead to the centre -- google and facebook).

It really does seem like the modern world is a cocktail of ways to hit you back into a corner.

Television fostered globalism because everyone watched the same thing. The Internet fosters tribalism because everyone can search for things that reinforce their view

Another reason is the mass adoption of high-speed motorised transport like that car. It allowed people the freedom to travel miles to work at a cost, working just for that which they need to get to work, and it will be with totally different people than you 'live' with as they commute off in the day as well. Entire towns and villages here empty during the day, and the local stores are closing because, simply, there's no one in the places to shop at them since everyone stops by supermarkets on their way too and from work.

What a wonderful existence, right? The more you sit and think about modernity the more depressing and hollowing it becomes.

So gaming is actually better for me than shitposting? I like to think that shitposting is a better waste of my time than gaming because at least I'm getting informed and I can research shit if I'm skeptical, I get conversation topics, and I'm speaking to real people, even if through text and images.

It's just that for some reason, I might be less sociable and less able to accurately convey what I want to say, thus making me worse at conversation, when I play games, but I'm so much happier then, and I don't feel the kind of brain fog I do when I quit them.

I know they're both bad outside of moderation and I should probably go outside or something, but I'm trying to figure out which one is worse for me. Like shitposting leaves me more capable, but dead inside, while gaming leaves me with joy, but less time to spend with people in the outside world (also gives me some anxiety where it's harder to talk to people; sometimes it gets to the point where I have a hard time keeping my facial expressions in tune with my emotions, so it could be some weird mental thing I don't know I have.)

Digital tribalism is impotent though as we'll never be able to band together in order to exact meaningful change in our societies though group effort. The only movements that occur like that these days are backed by somebody.

The largest flaw in this has been highlighted with the international protests against Trump. This is digital tribalism, people in foreign countries, protesting foreign countries, to make their own government follow through on some vague demand.

Then what's this idea liberals kept spouting that everyone was so racist "back then?" I know they've changed their minds because the candidate they didn't want made it to office, but still.

Are you me?

I literally told myself that by not playing vidya I was beating degeneracy, but like you I just substituted it for other fake productivity online.

This is an insidious addiction because it is a chameleon in many forms, and society, work, cannot function without it.

Now let me browse Unabomber material and pretend I am changing my behavior. Kaczynski nailed the term, 'surrogate activity'.

>All of this madness: Trump, Brexit, MGTOW

one of these is not like the other

Is this what your sociology 101 professor lectured about in class today?

Yeah pretty much. Deep down it's also why we get so excited about happenings. Nothing matters anymore, what's the point, everything is numb. Maybe if shit really starts falling apart an actual purpose can be found

There's nothing really 'wrong' with either in that sense. The problems is that they're largely not cost-effective in terms of time spent. Set your stopwatch to an hour countdown and see how much actual productive research you did.

This is why I mentioned the offline nature of the old web and pre-web networks. Uptime was expensive so they had to make it easy for you to be able to pull down and push up in bulk. Email being able to do this is a legacy feature from this time as Usenet and Fidonet both allowed for this.

It's all about signal to noise, which even in quality information and interaction has the occasional burst of static.

Honestly, no matter what I do, exercise made me feel marginally better, so I think that's a good start. I think limiting electronics can help as well, but it's really fucking hard to do that. My work is online. My friends and family are online. I don't have many books (I should probably go buy some books.) I don't use maps, I use a GPS. I'm bored and there's really nothing to do because I live in fucking suburbia? Well it's really hard not to pull out my phone and use it to access a wealth of humanity's knowledge. I'm in a conversation that is dieing down and the person pulled out their phone? Well shit, better take mine out too so I don't sit there like an idiot!

I know I'll be seen as a child when I do this, but I really do blame my parent for that last part because they never let me go to parties as a teen, now in college I don't know how to get in those party circles or let myself loose. I predict I would strike out with a girl, not really know anyone at the party, not know how to dance without looking like an idiot, and I'd be that looser on the couch with my phone. All thanks to technology being my only escape (and my parents starting that in my formative years.)

Sorry for the rant, I did go a bit off-topic.

Make your own purpose user

Mine is progress, united mankind and finding """true love"""

That's just an aspect of dopamine overload. Your brain is so fatigued from constant stimulation that its in a constant state of exhaustion. Or to put it another way: you've run out of fucks to give, because you wasted them all on pointless shit.

Luckily the brain is plastic and will adjust to any environment that it finds itself in.

Of course always-connected high-speed internet really doesn't help matters.

Maybe Buddhism can help with being content with only having oneself as a stimulus.

Of course people will think you are a circus freak but at this point it is the only thing I can think of to the break the cycle.

Now go look it up! Ha, maybe find a good book which describes the practice or contact a monastry for tips.

I am projecting hard here I know. Tgis is the direction I am moving in, for what it is worth.

Make an effort to be offline, then make a joke about it. Say you're spending some time off of technology so if you want to speak, maybe it should be by letter. Say it with your tongue in your cheek and it will go down better that you'd think.

Just set the precedence and people will follow when they see how much better off your are, and at gatherings start saying that only one of you will have a phone (why do you all need one?) and bring people around. Human beings a social animals, people usually say when defending social media, but make it true in real life.

Instead of parties invite your friends around to your house, or go around theirs. I'm not even kidding when I say to act like how you did when you were a kid inviting a friend out on a bike ride.

True. People now have the freedom to propagandise themselves.

The old "arrogant" elites would literally say that plebs needed some nonsense in their head, so it was their duty to make sure it was relatively harmless nonsense.

We stole power from those elites, but they were right. Humans have to work hard to ever be epistemically "free". We are born followers.

Haha, nice one Hans.

Oh to be a blue pilled normie again... Totally satisfied by vague promises.

There's nothing wrong with being a freak as long as you're not a weirdo, and if not using technology makes you a weirdo, make it work for you. Become That Guy who can recite poetry, read a map, know all sorts of interesting trivia about local wildlife.

People love a character.

The Greeks actually warned against such nonsense, and Abe Lincoln never read a fiction book through (in before what about the bible lol).

No, the final redpill isn't even really a red pill. It's the BOGPILL

>have no friends
delete this

>something horrific and earth-shattering
>thing i don't like
You ever read your own posts?