What happened?

How come that at one point, the Islamic world was making great advances in science, particularly astrology and mathematics, but now they behave like zealous savages?

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Gee, I don't know...

Dysgenics son. Also Saudis funding wahhabism made things a lot worse.

They started smoking hash.

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that guy destroyed Persia. Persia in general had been the sick man of the near east for a long time. Its a reason why they were conquered by Arabs in the first place.

All the great 'inventions'were robbed and pillaged from the civilisations they destroyed

Inbreeding.
Semitic people were the first ones to have a civilization, they have the highest IQ in the world and literally invented agriculture. Islam fucked them up because of it's legitimacy of inbreeding, which went on for centuries. Its effect were negligible at the beginning, and this was when arabs were a force to be reckoned with. Nowadays the only non inbred arabs you can find are christian arabs. They are usually smart, intelligent and good looking. I'm sure some user has the statistics for inbreeding rates in islamic world, IQ and dementia.
Very sad desu.

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Mongols destroyed Baghdad, which was the center of Islamic science, filled with scholars, documents etc. They razed the entire city and killed vast majority of the population.

Middle East was a wasteland after Mongols. Only Ottomans (House of Osman to be more precise) managed to consolidate and expand after Mongols were gone, and unfortunately Ottoman Empire wasn't anywhere near as enlightened as pre-Mongol Arabs.

These were probabaly Aryans who miscegenated with Arabs and Africans diluting the Aryan genetics.

They took knowledge from ME civ like arameans, assyrians and iranians and in modern day their nations got puppets and you have westerners arming rebels to fuck their nations

Open your eyes and stop being stupid

generations of incest

that artwork actually shows a bunch of muslims trying to figure out how all the shit they looted works.

Because of WW1

Cycle of life

>great advances in science, particularly astrology and mathematics, but now they behave like zealous savages?

This is a meme. Compare this list of inventions to my country's:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_inventions_and_discoveries

Netherlands invented 100 times as much as all Muslims despite being a younger country and with fewer people and other European countries invented far more than the Netherlands

You know what this means though? When they convert to Christianity, they'll go back to monogamy and their gene pool will get richer. The change will be akin to 9th century and 17th century monarchs.

otto empire was pretty good till 17th century imho.

also early ottos (osman and orhan bey, first two rulers to be precise, also as a side information, bey is something like count in europe) used mongol tactics and after expanding a lot into byzantines adopted byzantinian tactics and institutes.

The Sumerians weren't Semitic

Scholars were forced to convert or face death. Their discoveries were absolutely not thanks to Islam.

Astrology isn't science

Islam could make advances in mathematics and astronomy because those are simply observation and logic and don't impede on the beliefs on the religion like other branches of science would. Also they only discovered the foundation, the most basic of basic elements

the Vatican happened

youtube.com/watch?v=2GKXk5lGYII

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_al-Hasan_al-Ash'ari

This guy said it was absolutely Haram to believe anything other than God's will was in charge of physics.

it was

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ghazali

that fucked shit up actually.

Read this, retards. Stop spreading cancerous memes

All they ever wanted to know was :
1) Whereabouts is Mecca (when you are not in Mecca)
2) When to pray towards Mecca (ditto)

...and that is all. They didn't really do much in the way of science.

All these discovery using Al-gebra, Al-chemy..
Truly sharia'd my neurons

kek.

al-gorithm as well.

Nice, I forgot about this guy.

We know they didn't "invent" shit, they were mostly elaborating on greek concepts and that's why dehellenization fucked them so much. Also their scholars were mostly Persians iirc.

the arabic world had preserved the culture and innovations of the greeks

FPBP though most of Sup Forums will be too ignorant to get it.

You have no idea what you are talking about, christian arabs are more likely to inbreed because they have a limited population in the middle east...

you don't think being conquered by western colonial powers had anything to do with it?

thanks a lot Europe!

Islam never made any advances. They gathered together the learning of other cultures and preserved it, but it was all wrong, based on Aristotle, so it's useless and not applicable to modern science.

Because first most of the scientist were not very Muslim and the rationalist branch of Islam was killed at some point.

The islamic golden age was a fallacy

Why is Sup Forums so triggered about the muslim golden age to the point of downplaying achievements made in those times? Does this get in the way of your narrative? :^ )

mongolians, mostly

That never happen retard

But muslims didn't invent anything, they took others ideas, wiped out the name and claim it's an achievement of pisslam. That's why the whole "islamic golden age" is a fallacy.

My sociology professor said it because of imperialism and colonialism. He said the white people decided to destroy the islamic world by dividing them up after ww1. white people fuck everything up LOL my professor is so fcking smart its mind blowing

Fuck off with your Golden Age of Goatfucking.
These cunts couldn't into Renaissance or Industrialisation until Western Civilization arrived to put their shit in order.
All their shiny buildings are built by Western architects and engineers in exchange for their national resources, and as soon as they run out of things to trade they'll go back to living in the desert.
Fucking savages fuck off cunts.

Funny how China protected themselves with a wall.
Really makes you think

Because they didn't, just assimilated the cultures they invaded and in the long term the spirit that produced such advantages got deleted.

Arabs are spreading like a disease.

Because they still allow cousin marriages. It fucking decimates IQ. The Middle East has an average IQ of around 75. Look at Jews in Israel however. The Jews put an emphasis on intelligence. Women would seek to breed with and marry the most intelligent men or priests. Now they have an average IQ of 120.

TL;DR They act like fucking retarded savages because their preference to breed with family members and children have made them retarded savages.

sending this post to my professor. hes gonna gte a good laugh outta your dumbas racist

>implying israelis aren't inbred

I think they invented glass?

Glass has been around since ancient Egypt.

They had an anti-math movement and made it cool to stone anyone into maths. This all followed a typical liberal society curve where the society opened up to literacy and thinking, academia got strong, went liberal, predictably went to shit, then religion clamped down and never had a reformation loosening up again.

because they didn't grow out of the "sectarian violence" phase. christian kingdoms got fucked by religious wars and the 30 years war esp and said never again so they invented political systems based on toleration and freedom. muzzles don't understand because they haven't gotten sick of killing each other yet

What flag is this

This. And inbreeding for half a millenium.

It's nice to see that turks liked greek food. The ottomans were really multicultural

It's a painting of Genghis khan

Arabs did unironically invent algebra and the number 0.

based kankerdutch

It wasn't islamic yet.

Fortunatley the iq isnt 75, only for saudi arabia which had it at its worst.

I can bet if we retook the middle east, destroy islam and outlaw inbreeding, you would see their civilizations go back to the mid - high 90s iq they were meant to have.

This slant eyed fellow right here.

The Islamic world was just like the modern west - women in power, infrastructure. Strong, wild men destroyed it.

I don't care for the liberalism, but I'm unafraid to say that these strong, mongol men set back knowledge. Immortality should be man's goal, and books should never be burned.

Women in power is an indicator of societal decline.

They get cucked out of civilization by the mongols.

The Islamic world destroyed itself.
Genghis Khan didn't give two shits about the Middle East until the head of the messenger he sent bearing gifts of peace was sent back.

Who here does not know about the glorious BUT SADLY WEAK Ghengis? He almost had them fucking eradicated, according to their myths at least. But he spared them in the end.

Look what that got us.

Myth. Muslims didn't invent shit.

Because the people who they were stealing that technology and science from started fighting back.

Astronomy (not astrology) came from Persia. Mathematics came from India. Philosophy came from the Mediterranean, and Architecture came from Europe. Arab Muslims invented nothing. They kidnapped and enslaved people who understood these things, and forced them to create -- or die.

Islam has never experienced an Enlightenment. Islam only ever gets more brutal with each reform. It is a cancer of human society.

Not islamic arabs

well it wasnt islam world it was middle eastern and turkish people. back then church was retarded wth all their religious shit. islam was more free then more islam happened and everything went to shit. islam is cancer of the world all muslims should get shot until they die muslims are fucking worthless piece of meat

Forget the mongol meme. The real reason was the change of attitude regarding to the Islam. First generation of Muslim scientists were believing that holy book (god's words) can only be fully understood if one fully understands the world he created. Second generation believed the opposite, only the one who studies and understands the holy book can fully understands the world we are living. So the first generation tried to discover new things like how light works and interpreted the god's words with their knowledge. Second generation tried to understand "how light works" by reading Koran, and refused anything that is contradictory to their understanding of god's words.

>muh golden age of islam
Those dudes were part of a minority, and the rest of the islamic world wanted to murder them all. They're happy to take all the credit of course.

Idiot. The word alchemy comes from ancient Egypt. It was called Khemet. Arabs called it al-Khemet which became alchemy in Europe.
Islam hasn't invented shit. It's a devouring ideology that conquers and adopts whatever they conquer into their own system, if it fits.

"If it's not in the Qu'ran it is false, burn it. If it is in the Qu'ran, we already have it - burn it."

pretty much this.
Also, they believe in qura'an a lot because of the "scientific evidence" in it.
clearly they don't know about Ancient Greece

the united states encouraged the growth of fundamentalist islam to counter soviet-backed pan-arabian secular nationalism so we'd have maximum access to that sweet sweet oil.

the net result is that all the normal-thinking moderates are dead or long gone leaving only religious crazies and tin pot dictators in the region. if you want a perfect example, check out iran.

youtube.com/watch?v=3nRXJ0ky-Xs

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