Still thinking about that user that left us with a bombshell of a leak. Hope he's alright, but we can't let that weigh us down. let's get to work.
Here's what we know. 19% of Rosneft was promised to Trump and his associates in exchange for lifting sanctions on Russia.
We know that 19.5% of Rosneft was sold to an untraceable entity hiding behind shell corporations in the Caymen islands.
We can't say for sure that Trump and his associates are involved but that's the suspicion. We know for sure whoever bought those shares is trying to avoid violating sanctions.
We also know that Exxon was denied a 500 billion dollar deal with Russia because of Sanctions. If sanctions were lifted, that 500 billion deal would go through.
And we know that Rex Tillerson who has been a wheeler and dealer with Exxon for all of his life was just appointed to be Secretary of State by Trump. Tillerson has no relevant public service experience which raises red flags.
One theory is that Tillerson will absorb the heat from investigation and criticism. Collaboration between U.S. and Russia will be chalked up to Tillerson's ties to Exxon instead of the bribe to Trump. Tillerson isn't currently part of the company so nothing illegal will fall in his lap- he'll step down and return to being CEO of Exxon or as a consultant for his reward.
We also know that the head of cyber security for the FSB has been taken by Russian authorities and hasn't been seen sense. This raises a red flag because he's the one that would know about Russian hacking into U.S. elections, and compromising information on Trump that might get Trump impeached. We also know that at least one more Russian intelligence officer has been killed. I suspect Putin is tying up loose ends.
user predicted Trump would lift sanctions on Russia to hold up his end of the deal. Trump has been hinting at "restarting" relations with Russia, but Russia has done nothing to earn that status and is continuing to attack Ukraine
No repuatable links, no solid arguments as to why we should care, no indication that alliance with russia would be a bad thing even i this was true (which it isnt), and the classic writings of a shill or /leftpol/ faggot that's really trying hard to "raid" here.
Please kill yourself already stop wasting your time.
Grayson Green
This is a shill thread spreading fake facts. Its not even ctr, its antifa idiots, i know them they live in my city.
Putin is taking out his own intelligence agents. I think Trump demanded this as a condition. This is meant to destroy all embarrassing and compromising information against Trump. But what is Trump afraid of? And why wouldn't he understand that Russia would have backups of all the information. It just doesn't make sense. Maybe Putin promised the information would be safe- and he's killing his intel agents as a sign of good faith to Trump?
Camden Ross
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Landon Diaz
Look at how weak and scared they are that we're about to turn the world on its head with this information. You can't stop the truth.
Jack Perez
R/thedonald has turned Sup Forums into an unironic larp fest
disagress with me? YOU SHILL!
Anthony Mitchell
How autistic would i need to be in order to wear that
Carson Hernandez
Every link you posted is a Murdoch shill source. you need to read outside your echo... But,please,pleas,please find something on Trump. >I'm getting tired of all the WINNING. faggot.
Adam Mitchell
GET OUT CTR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Eli Sanchez
Thank you for sharing such detailed info on your next narrative, however, you are a faggot, your boss is a faggot and your sponsors are big faggots too, prepare your ass for jail, you'll like it. Hail Hitler.
Ian Peterson
>ukraine
no such thing
Andrew Perry
Look, you asked for sources, you've got sources. Now pony up some proof or admit that you don't have an argument.
Thomas Carter
If this is shill they need to get on the mass fucking media already.
If this was actually Soros and shit it would be all over fucking CNN.
This shit is buried and hiding so it's obviously REAL AS FUCK.
>So in July the dossier said a Trump associate was offered 19% of Rosneft if Trump became president and removed sanctions. Then a sale happens in early December of 19.5% of Rosneft.
We know that Trump just fired legal oversight for not going along with what he said rather than what's legal.
Some are claiming this is a move to consolidate power, to have no one checking the legality of his actions, and to have no one that would notice or investigate any potential wrong doings by Trump and his administration.
I don't think Trump is preparing for a coup- like some others have insisted. But, you have to wonder why Trump is willing to issue orders that violate the law- or not consult with legal council that addresses concerns about legal implications.
Take that in conjunction with the fact that Trump immediately filled out the paper work for a reelection bid at the 2020 election. This allows money to be funneled to him directly in exchange for legislative/executive kick backs.
So he tosses out objective legal supervision and implements a plan to solicit payments from entities that want something from him. Some are accusing Donald of being in debt. Could his debt be way higher than he can pay off with a presidential salary? What if he knew he'd go bankrupt if he earned the presidential office- and he's taking steps to cover his bills through reelection donations.
>A big question is why the Kremlin, given its controls over almost all the country’s media, wanted this news out. Among the guesses is that the Kremlin wants firmer confirmation for the US, and perhaps the world, that it in fact did hack the US election.
>the Kremlin wants firmer confirmation for the US >that it in fact did hack the US election
FUCK YOU BURGERFATS WE DID IT AND WE'RE GONNA RUB YOUR FUCKING NOSES IN IT
Bentley White
Late Report: Rosneft Tried to ‘Pour Oil’ on Russia’s Sanctions from USA
>Igor Sechin, the CEO of Russia’s state oil company, Rosneft, offered former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page the brokerage of a 19 percent stake in the company in exchange for the lifting of US sanctions on Russia, according to a report today by Business Insider.
Carter Jackson
Russian oil tsar took part in sting to detain minister - sources
>Igor Sechin, head of Russia's biggest oil company Rosneft, set up a personal meeting with a government minister for what was in fact a law enforcement sting, after which state investigators charged the minister with receiving a $2 million bribe, two sources familiar with the case told Reuters.
Jose Morales
more manufactured dissent
>Since most of us here now regret voting for Trump, how can we fix this and make Hillary the president? Is there anything the congress can do? If I knew that Trump was going to be a strong-arm dictator, I would not have voted for him in the first place. archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/110192154/
>we're about to turn the world on its head with this information
what information
all you posted is speculation and tabloid news
Gabriel Hernandez
Have you even scrolled through the thread yet?
Carson Cox
Lil dicky trumplets BTFO
I don't think bringing evidence to the table will change the mind of these retards, they openly welcome this kind of shit just to make people mad and pretend things are going Ok with trump
Benjamin Ward
this is inception level trolling
come to Sup Forums to shill for trump by saying other groups are shilling against trump. These faggots just want to bread derision and confusion.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain shit
Bentley Miller
>user predicted Trump would lift sanctions on Russia to hold up his end of the deal.
That's like predicting the sun will rise tomorrow.
Ultimately, what matters is what Russia can do in regards to Iran.
Dylan Wood
This is low energy lads. If you had actually been here any time you would know weve always been autists.
Plus Its not true, main stream media would have been all over it, go back and discuss tactics again guys, maybe work on blending in a bit better.
Nathaniel Murphy
Get back into the chamber. Shills stay free.
Nathan Morris
I am sorry m8,but even if what you say is genuine nothing will happen and nothing will be revealed.You think some anime internet board can compe with both Russias and US inteligence agencies and governements.No...besides most americans are so self-brainwashed into venerating Trump that you may as well not bother to say anything bad about him...
>guy who wants to improve relations to Russia will lift sanctions >WTF IT'S A FUCKING CONSPIRACY
You are gurgling CIA propaganda
Isaiah Robinson
Holy shit this is fucking huge!!!!.
Two things. The profits from Rosneft can be funneled through the Caymen Islands into a superpac directly to pay off his campaign debt- and to fund his reelection, and to "cover bills' that his campaign office racks up taking up office space in his own Trump towers. He's already fucking done it. HAHA what a fucking madman. The shell corporation in Caymen Islands is kept secret- and super pacs don't have to disclose donors.
Second, and this is almost as big.
Since Donald Trump is officially a presidential candidate, non profit organizations can't talk negatively about him or "campaign" without risk of losing non-profit status. That is, his political opponents have to come up with a new strategy for their talking points- that don't involve refuting him directly, or arguing that his ideas are bad. He will essentially have no organized non-profit opposition to his political and personal actions for the next 4 years.
Holy fucking shit. This is mind blowing.
So, first things first; Trump takes a Rosneft bribe set up in the Caymen islands- which is beyond prying eyes. He has that money funneled into a superpac and into his wallet- although without having to disclose where the money came from. He dumps legal oversight so no who's privy to this information will find out what's going on. He has people sign NDAs to keep his staff and meetings quiet- beyond what's a state secret. And he shuts down his political opponents for the next four years all in about a month.
How fucking brutal.
Cameron Nelson
Keep up the good fight user.
All these connections and pol chooses to ignore them because they're on Trump's dick. The evidence for this is 1000x stronger than pizzagate and you get called a shill, it's pathetic.
These hypocritical fucks cry about CTR when the real shilling comes from Russia FSB and they refuse to even acknowledge it.
Please don't stop posting this, I supported Trump, but ever since the Tillerson pick and the intelligence dossier I've been scared of his position on Russia.
Robert Myers
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Leo Collins
What does the US get in return for lifting sanctions?
>Commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund agreed to buy a 10.2-billion euro ($11 billion) stake in Russia’s largest oil producer from the state in a triumph for President Vladimir Putin over sanctions imposed by the West.
>The surprise deal gives the buyers a 19.5 percent stake in Rosneft PJSC, which the U.S. and European Union have targeted with punitive measures, and is the biggest foreign investment in Russia since the crisis in Ukraine. It also marks a stunning return to deal-making for Glencore Chief Executive Officer Ivan Glasenberg a little more than a year after his company was forced to raise cash from shareholders.
Easton Wilson
What is all this garbage
Ian Young
The nwo could work if russia and the us work together. Are there too many wounds?
Mason Wright
Why didn't you start with >is continuing to attack Ukraine and made me read all this wall of shit.
Luke Campbell
HOW EXACTLY does it change the fact that HRC's right hand was a fucking "muslim brothers" agent = a saudi spy?
TELL ME, CREW
James Anderson
>Still thinking about that user that left us with a bombshell of a leak. Link?
When did this happen?
Ayden Myers
What does that have to do with Trump's links to Russia?
Hillary lost and is now irrelevant. You seem to be bringing her up to change the subject.
Landon Watson
>it doesnt make sense. >putin taking out his own agents because it would hurt trump. >murdoch sources.
Die in a fire. Logic is the rule of law on this board, you have no power here.
Jayden Thomas
Probably something to do with Syria and Iran. Like safe zones for refugees so we don't have to take them.
Funny how this faggot can't say anything about this >Rosneft funneled to Caymen Islands >Oh wait no, it was sold to Glencore and Quatar
Jordan Roberts
>Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund
Qatar sovereign fund tells Washington will invest $10 billion in U.S. infrastructure: sources
>The head of Qatar's sovereign wealth fund has told U.S. officials it will invest $10 billion in infrastructure projects inside the United States, sources said, in an apparent boost to the economic plans of president-elect Donald Trump.
THAT'S A DEEP FUCKING RABBIT HOLE
Nathaniel Collins
Worst shill attempt ever. Your resume was rejected by CREW ?
Carson Stewart
That CIA leak is really something. Here's how it works, he learned of the Rosneft sale to Glencore and Qatar and then put in a fake Trump connection there.
WOW, now magically Trump is incriminated by this allegation if he ever lifts the sanctions. It's as if the CIA didn't want Trump to lift the sanctions.
Jackson Moore
>$11 billion >$10 billion The fuck is exactly going on here?
Trump Russia Qatar Oil Infrastructure
Jason Anderson
Lurk more, Redditor. Nobody on this site types like that.
Austin Kelly
Hi share blue.
We're coming for you.
Zachary Reyes
>We know that 19.5% of Rosneft was sold to an untraceable entity hiding behind shell corporations in the Caymen islands.
how are you this stupid?
Zachary Smith
Anything less than ceasing all expansionist actions to the West of Russia wouldn't be a fair trade. Russia shouldn't be able to invade another country and get off scott free. Especially one that was considering NATO membership.
On top of this, Trump is talking about ending the NATO alliance which is essentially Putin's wet dream. End the alliance and USSR would be back the following week. Please open your eyes and see the truth, Trump's Russian policy is dangerous, delusional and most of all not in the national security interest of the US.
Carson Green
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Zachary Rogers
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Charles Lee
Does Qatar's offer to Trump for $10 billion in infrastructure have anything to do with Russia oil and sanctions?
>HURR DURR PROBABLY NOT LOL RITE GUIZE?
Samuel Reyes
If the connection is false, why does Trump want to lift sanctions at all?
Anthony Cook
FUCK RUSSIA FUCK TRUMP
MAGA MAGA MAGA
DRAIN THE SWAMP
SEND THE FAT ORANGE RICH KID TO MOSCOW
Ryder Davis
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Juan Morgan
>Qatar investing in American infrastructure >CORRUPTION
This source is just reading from the CIA fake leak, i.e. an allegation.
Charles Brown
Trump fags creating a boogeyman and trolls being trolls. Posting those threads is the easiest way to troll this board desu.
Eli Jones
Reddit: The Post
Jordan Perry
>There is absolutely no reason to lift sanctions unless Trump made a corrupt deal with Putin to enrich himself
Do you faggots even consider your own logic?
>Anything less than ceasing all expansionist actions to the West of Russia wouldn't be a fair trade. Russia shouldn't be able to invade another country and get off scott free.
Fuck off you fucking liberal, we don't want a war with russia no matter how much you fucking beg for it. It's clear at this point, there is no way to actually reason with you.
Jason Green
>shills posting PA requests now
We made it
Jace Cooper
>according to two people familiar with the deal who declined to be identified because they were not authorized to speak on the matter. Intesa, which worked for the Russian government as its consultant on the Rosneft privatization sale, declined to comment, as did Rosneft. A Glencore spokesman couldn’t immediately be reached.
Could be a smokescreen. This is from FuelFix.
>The presence of Glencore in the deal, however, has raised eyebrows since the Russian oil industry is supposed to be off limits for Western investors because of European and American sanctions imposed on Russia. And the terms of the deal are not clear, with an unnamed bank taking a prominent role.
Glencore’s participation in the deal came as a surprise since the company is going through difficult financial times and only last year faced doubts about its ability to handle its own debts.
Think about it. A failing company suddenly ponies up billions of dollars through "an unknown bank" to buy shares from a company that was looking to buy back shares.
i'm not saying this is a smokescreen for sure. But it's a fishy story. Why is an unnamed bank involved? And how could a company in finantial trouble with failing assets be able to 1. handle this transaction and 2. offer up collateral for it.
My idea is that Putin saw this failing company as an opportunity to cover his bribe to Trump. he basically met with - or sent his people to meet with- some chairmen and said "look, we're going to give you some money to advertise this deal". Plus, Putin could offer some trade deals, maybe some arms, defense contracts, etc.
Failing companies don't just get loan hand outs to the tune of more than 10 billion. Combine that with almost zero people backing up the claims about the buyout or conditions of it etc. It's just fishy. it could be truth though. Good find user.
Jordan Edwards
dont reply to shareblue employees (new ctr) they get paid per reply
sage all fields
8 more years you pathetic niggers
Jordan Campbell
This sounds like election tier tinfoil. The thing about lefty tinfoil is its very clean and convenient like a shitty movie plot or someone comissioned fanfiction. It doesn't have the heavy hand of God or crazy reality altering finales like righty tinfoil does.
Gabriel Watson
Hey faggot, guess what? We don't care. It literally does not matter. If Trump hadn't won the USA would be in the midst of a bloodbath right now. If you make a move to get rid of him we'll just help him grab total control. He has the military and majority of gun owning civilians on his side. We have no problem with killing you. It would actually make things easier if we were given that opportunity.
Jordan Cooper
Because one candidate is corrupt the other cant be? Dont be fucking bluepilled user.
Grayson Ross
>Hillary lost and is now irrelevant Not Hillary has lost. The globalist establishment, the Wall Street, Saudi oil money, Soros and his masters have lost.
And now they are bloodthirsty. They wan't revenge and are desperate to construct an impeachment reason.
Xavier Martinez
>Here's what we know. 19% of Rosneft was promised to Trump and his associates in exchange for lifting sanctions on Russia.
oh, we "know" that?
how do we "know" that, exactly?
Ethan Gutierrez
The more elaborate these faggots get the more fucking obvious they seem to become.The silly fukkers must have actually planned this, along with the rebuttals of why they cant possibly be shills, forgetting that anyone who feels the need to deny being a shill is almost definatly a shill.
Josiah Clark
*want
Robert Thomas
>here's what we know >let's get to work They cannot break out of these patterns because then they would start thinking.
Parker Evans
Wew lad.
John Torres
Soros literally does nothing wrong
Julian Harris
Russian oil>Saudi Arabia oil It's not hard to figure out ctr shills Sage
Gabriel Perez
False
Jeremiah Ward
So we should let Russia do whatever the fuck they want?
There is absolutely no benefit to US for lifting sanctions. I'm not fucking saying go to war with Russia, I'm just saying punish them for invading a sovereign nation, which is what the sanctions are. Lifting them is de facto saying the US is okay with what they're doing in Ukraine. Can't you see that??
Brody Mitchell
You are completely right, you can openly discuss trump being corrupt on any other form of social media, normies will lap it up. So fuck off to reddit/facebook and eat ya heart out.
Isaac Allen
WHY
WHY CANT WE ACTUALLY ONKECTIVELY LOOK AT TRUMP AND HIS DEALINGS?
WHY DO YOU ASSUME HE IS 100% CLEAN?
Russia has been our main geopolitical rival since the end of WWII. It is important to sus out fact from fiction. I dont want to have avoided a Chinese/Muslim brother hood backed Hillary presidency only to step into an FSB/KGB operation set on destroying America.
There is enough circumstantial evidence to warrant hard questions. Why do you disagree?
Hudson Barnes
stop replying to these niggers, they get paid when you do, ignore them and put sage in all fields
Kevin Williams
Is this pizzagate 2.0?
I'm not reading all those 5 year old articles from some random blogs.
Cameron Murphy
*objectively
Anthony Moore
>le spooky infurmashun >cnn >nyt >guardian
Aaron Reed
And? Trump is still the POTUS
Jace Ward
>So we should let Russia do whatever the fuck they want?
I think you missed the whole globalism vs nationalism thing. It's not our job to stop Russia if it costs more than we gain. Frankly, we don't gain much at all. If Europe wants to deal with Russia they need to build up their own military and do it themselves.
We will protect our NATO allies, but we aren't obligated to protect non-allies. Basically, what you're advocating is fighting on 3 separate fronts. You want to contain Russia in eastern Europe, you want us to deal with ISIS in the middle east, and you want us to deal with China in the far east (Don't forget the Iran and North Korea).
We are getting into too many foreign conflicts.
Caleb Rogers
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Connor Sanchez
even if trump is "colluding" with russia, isnt that a better alternative than colluding with saudi arabia and Israel like obongo did? Its not like you cant live on this planet without allies to some degree.
Noah Jenkins
It wasn't so much invading a sovereign nation as supporting legitimate grievance of population splitting.
Very clearly half the ukrainian population in crimea did not want to join EU and were sympathetic to russia while other half wanted EU.
It's really only possibly for a peaceful solution to be made via splitting the state. One to EU one to Russia.
Else you will forever have a war in Ukraine, as Russia isn't about to give up Crimea. If only for it's strategic value.
Austin Campbell
its just CTR again doing their thing. Thankfully they do have some feedback loop when they read these words and then they start to get demoralized again.
Their fresh breath will wither our soon enough again most likely.
Elijah Hall
>user has circumstantial evidence that Hillary Clinton is running a pedofile ring based on strange wording in leaked emails
100% CONFIRMED!!!!!!
>user has circumstantial evidence that Trump is collaborating with Russia based on an intelligence dossier put together by a highly respected career MI6 spy, Trump's sucking of Putin's dick for no reason, appointment of Russia's best friend as secretary of state, a complete purge of all career employees of the state department who would object to a lifting of sanctions and strong evidence Russia put every resource they could into getting Trump elected.
WTF CTR SHILL!!!!!!!!!
You really don't see the hypocrisy? You guys are being useful idiots to Russian propaganda.
Bentley Ramirez
Drumpfcucks BTFO Sup Forums on 'Freedom of Expression cancelation' watch
