Sup guys. I want to know what gaijin think about Japan's politics!
ITT: Where is Japan's position on international politics?
China's GDP is already over 2times bigger than Japan. Their growth rate is still 6%. Their productivity per capita is still low. so they are more likely to be grow.
the question is, should we just simply obey US?
US's diplomatic stance changed after Trump. He attacks Japan. It is unusual for US president for several decades.
The problem is, Japan rely on US too much. Trump may simply want to "deal" with Japan. But Japan does not have choice except america.
So I think Japan should walk away from US and build relationship with China.
>So I think Japan should walk away from US and build relationship with China. Except 99.99% of Asians have a raging hate boner for rival Asian culture. I can hear the cries of Nanking already.
Joshua Thompson
Why on earth and havens he attacks Japan when he vehemently attacked China as well? Should not be your country play a pivotal role as an alliance against them? Confused, really.
Wyatt Long
frankly speaking they are hating Japan so much these days.
They are global citizen like us
Austin Nelson
>he's nationalist enough to include Karafuto in his image >he doesn't want to try to shoot for an Article 9 repeal under Trump
Ian Price
Because "America first".
He is after all not commander or strategist
Brody Reyes
>So I think Japan should walk away from US and build relationship with China.
No, english teacher-kun. Don't you have to be gaijin somewhere else?
Xavier Richardson
Two possibilities, then: Either the new isolationism will bite him in his ass, or will prove right (if the global transportion keeps having problems and declining). Interesting times.
Christopher Bennett
Wait, there's something I don't understand. Trump is going after China, so sticking with us will at worst keep you where you are and at best give you the option to build up your military as we pull forces out. What advantage would you have allying with China now while still effectively under US occupation?
Thomas Morales
Get off your fucking proxy, chink. Or you're probably that chink who goes to university in Japan. Get a fucking life.
Alexander Davis
>considering diplomatic possibility is "english teacher"
wow
Carter Thomas
Go home Daniel.
Jayden Wilson
Imperial japan was best japan
Also fuck china, you remember the last time you commies tried to jew the samurai?
we can strength economic relationship. Since china and Japan are expected to be damaged by US protectionism, this deal is required for both.
Christopher Baker
Excluding proxies, Most IPs here from Japan are Gaijin English teacher or weeboos . I'll not take this bait.
Kayden Parker
Nippon is a nice country strangled by US regulations and chinas imperialism
You should get a great deal with trump, restore meji constitution, start a government program making women fuck your men and reboot Japans empire.
Ayden Hall
Lol the Chinese hate your fucking guts for denying crimes against humanity for decades
>Hey China >Wanna be friends again? >Remember when you were still poor and Japan was still relevant haha >Pls respond
Jeremiah Jones
Nah, OP is probably a chinese citizen desu, or a literal shill
Chase Brooks
and Imperial Japan somehow tried to "save" China.
Probably gaijins doesn't know Japan's idae in 1940s
Aaron Ross
Japan must grow stronger.
Take your supplements, exercise an hour a day, go to a gym, wrestle, take up a hobby. Get a wife and have three children.
Leo Ward
>"save" china
No, the point was to conquer it just like korea had been
Thomas Williams
Article 9? What is this?
Anthony Rogers
The good point of Trump is. he can be evil enemy of China and Japan.
Enemy of enemy is friend... right?
Jonathan Perez
>The good point of Trump is. he can be evil enemy of China and Japan. >Enemy of enemy is friend... right?
China is not your ally silly nip, also pay debts
Joshua Martin
we call it "liberation".
anyway, pan-asianism is still relevant idea.
The point is, who will be leader of asia....
And I think both country should no be leader.
Nathan Brooks
yeah. so enemy of enemy can be friend. right?
>pay debts
for who? most of debts are owned by Japan bank(central bank of Japan). And they print ton of money, then buy natioanl bond.
Joshua Davis
Why would that necessitate a military alliance?
>implying a unified China under Japan wouldn't be better than the huge civil war and mass famines
Daniel Smith
How is Trump an enemy of Japan?
Stop listening to Abe, the TPP would've crushed Japan had China joined and without the US support nobody wants to do it. Be grateful you weren't economically nuked.
Alexander Stewart
I like your traditionalism and I would love to settle in japan with a qt 3.14 and live a comfy life far away from the shithole west will turn into
can I?
Jordan Cruz
you have political system? damn i thought warring samurai warlords battled for control of the shogunate with giant robots manned by quasiloli femmes with brief intervals of tentacle sex. so what your saying is anime has lied to me?
Wyatt Evans
The Japanese economy has been having a hard time reaching levels it had 40 years ago.
For China this might just be the final bump they needed to turn inwards. The economy has been what, like doubling every ten years for the last 40 years?
Eli Carter
He backs Taiwan against china is against china back south korea against north korea China is like a vampire on everyone Else's economy. siding with them is one cluster fuck. The guy is even giving japan the opportunity to build it's military back up. do japs really believe he is against japan specifically?
Bentley Mitchell
>And I think both country should no be leader.
Why, fuck china and it's commie government.
Stay on your island if you want too but don't ally yourself with the enemy
>for who? most of debts are owned by Japan bank(central bank of Japan). And they print ton of money, then buy natioanl bond.
Debt is debt even if it's owned by japanese banks, who by the way are owned by the IMF so they are as japanese as american cars
Leo Fisher
The part of Japan's new constitution forever relinquishing the right to wage war.
I thought right wingers in Japan loved Trump. I know Toshio Motoya does, at least.
Ryan Martinez
>China's GDP is already over 2times bigger than Japan. they have a country orders of magnitude larger than yours. It's not surprising. considering your countries histories with eachother cooperation sounds laughable. better stick with us m8
Tyler Gutierrez
Eat a sword you commie fuck.
Anthony Carter
TPP. he attacks Japan on curreny "manipulation", trade, etc
He is risky person after all.
Who want to build relationship with constantly attack a nation to gain profit? First time, they can gain good deal, second time they may gain good deal but third time, we have plan.
As Trump said. "Japan first". and japan should do anything to make Japan great again.
Samuel Lopez
Although China is becoming important to international trade, Japan still runs 15% of all US trade. The Japanese are a stable, reliable, hard working people who most people look up to.
Elijah Anderson
how easy it´s to come in japan to work and what sorta CV / resume´s or skills you expect from immigrants. also is english fine for basic level jobs or do they require fluid japanese as well.
i dont really give a shit about all the manchild stuff japan invents
Gabriel Wilson
Maybe learn to speak intelligle engrish before you post here
Nolan Allen
TPP does not benefit japan, or any nation involved with it's shady shit, maybe you should look into what it actually does rather than what you are told it does by corporation owned news networks
Leo Barnes
Nips are cozying up to chinks now? Your country is more cucked than anyone could possibly imagine. Japan is the Germany of the far east.
Adam Evans
I think that the U.S. would allow Japan to retain their sovereignty.
China would probably launch some project aimed at incorporating Japan as the new island provinces of grorious China.
Even though there might be immediate benefits for switching sides, it should be obvious that the U.S. is more politically stable than China, and it can be argued that long-term oriented thinking is in general better than short-term thinking with respect to what a country or institution should do.
Gavin Morris
nah, China's economy was shit untill1990s Then, they adopted FREE-MARKET and OPEN BORDER ECONOMICS.
In reality, China may be good trade partner.
>taiwan and south korea
so importance of Japan is now decreased.
We should consider other option for good deal.
Juan Allen
Is abe a good leader ?
Jaxon Stewart
>Japan is the Germany of the far east.
Far from it friend, OP is probably a chink posing as a nip
Iirc , Japan is only allowed milltary action for defending themselves or helping NATO
Parker Fisher
>nah, China's economy was shit untill1990s >Then, they adopted FREE-MARKET and OPEN BORDER ECONOMICS. >In reality, China may be good trade partner.
Chinas economy is held up by government investments into their own markets to prop it up, also alot of their money comes from selling cheap shit overseas, if china gets too big for it's boots just cut-off that supply line and watch it fall into civil war
Chase Flores
>gommunist goverment I hate it with passion. But hey, Lee kuan yuu was not so bad.
And China is slowly but surely opening its border and market to others.
This is good sign. we need accelarate this process.
International trade is WIN-WIN.
most of right wingers were pro-trump but after his bullshit, everyone hate it.
Brayden Bell
no the point was he is rallying far east Asia against China I thought the Japs hates the US soldiers stationed there due to them being rude and shit
Christopher Diaz
>I want to know what gaijin think about Japan's politics
Do you settle disputes via Kung fu or starcraft? I forget which Asia you are.
Isaac Nguyen
>And China is slowly but surely opening its border and market to others. >This is good sign. we need accelarate this process. >International trade is WIN-WIN.
You really want china to do well don't you, why is that if you mind explaining since i don't know where you would get that mindset from
Austin Collins
well, get some nukes first so you can defend yourself. and yes, diversify your relationships
Caleb Morgan
I am unsure about feasibility of alliance with China. Technically, it'd be possibly good for both nations but not only aggresive market strategy of China seems at odds with Japanese (which may result in Japan actually getting taken over) but as mentioned, there's quite some tension between representatives of different asian countries.
I don't think Japan should "simply obey" US either. You have your country and itnerests, deal with Trump in a way that benefits both countries. No one has to walk over anyone (likely both sides will try to, though).
Aside from that, my opinion on Japan politics is.. uneven. Your country seems to be suffering many contradictions in attitude where it comes to purely political and socio-political things. A country both very restrained, with epidemy of bullying in schools, suicide rates among middle class office workers and general priority of "not standing out" on one hand, on the other strong drive to express one's individuality, catering to plethora of kinks etc. Certain isolationism that saved Japan from refugee waves but also adoration of Europe and US. Traditionalism in work places with many offices still very suspicious toward digital data management on one hand and great adoration of new technological gadgets on the other.
The dissonance is very weird but I guess also one of the reasons Japan stands out and enjoys considerably developed tourism (even in areas not related to weeaboo stuff).
Jackson Lopez
ok^^ you can stay away from my thread. It's good for both.
>government investment.
yeah it's true. BUT LOOK AT MAO CHINA. every company is owned by fucking stupid government.
Then they introduced the market system in shanghai and 深圳,
Also China's market itself big. China's gdp by PPP is already bigger than America.
We can not ignore them simply because of "muh enemy"
Eli Morris
Because the US soldiers fuck Jap girls whilst the guys work 18 hours a day lel. Nothing causes butthurt like that.
Wyatt Morales
>TPP is Japan First Swallowing the entire TPP for export benefits is like me shoving the whole fugu in my mouth because the testicles are somewhere in there.
The TPP would have made the Diet subordinate to American owned multinats. You would have said goodbye to literally any creative industry you currently dominate, your entire rice subsidy system would have been trampled by massive US exporters, export benefits would have been trampled by your manufacturing fleeing the fucking country, and they would have brought in fucking migrant Somalians every year until your entire nation looked like the shittiest part of Roppongi.
The TPP was hot fucking garbage, and I thank God that Trump won and the thing is fucking dead.
Gabriel Rivera
>his bullshit Be more specific or I don't believe you.
Chase Richardson
Reminder that OP is a chinese nigger.
Jacob Peterson
probably 30% of Japanese are lefist or liberal tendency 50% are right wing or something.
but in reality, most of people are indifferent and have no strong opinion about politics.
Alexander Ramirez
>yeah it's true. BUT LOOK AT MAO CHINA. >every company is owned by fucking stupid government. >Then they introduced the market system in shanghai and 深圳, >Also China's market itself big. China's gdp by PPP is already bigger than America. >We can not ignore them simply because of "muh enemy"
Yes you can, and right now japan is going with trump so there is nothing you can do unless you go out and persuade people against it with good enough arguments but you don't have any
Also they are still called the communist party so they are still commies at heart, they only scaled it back a bit because if they didn't they would go the way of the soviet union and lose all the power they still cling too currently
Brayden Adams
what japan needs to do is annex south korea under the pretext of stablizing the government after the feminst cult scandal, it would be the jump start you need to revitalize imperial Nation
Angel Miller
Quick question. Do you learn the latin alphabet in schools? Can anybody in Japan read our western script or only the younger ones?
Cooper Cook
>So I think Japan should walk away from US and build relationship with China.
>Japan got benefit from trade deal! >look at Ships from Japan! this is not fair deal!
In reality, Japan does not have any traffic tax against US made car. and US has alreday have traffic tax against made in Japan cars.
And Trump insluted this trade agreement as "unfair".
I think most of japanese are not in fever with Trump.
Jordan Harris
Of course you can. What's stopping you?
William Stewart
I find it very difficult to believe that hardline nationalists would be annoyed by an economic nationalist from another country willing to let them beef up the military.
Although I do find it pretty easy to believe that he isn't exactly worshipped by you guys. From what I saw, you guys seem to treat him as a meme.
Angel Price
The point is, TPP are offered by AMERICA.
And Japan decided to join it after many, many and many debates.
We just lost many times for considering it.
in Japanese society, 信頼(reliance) is too fucking important. and Trump(america) betray us, in terms of reliance.
Wyatt Martinez
don't been a nigger. japan is for japanese
Gavin Sanchez
Deals get broken mate, you don't have to take it personally and instantly jump ship to join the enemy
Landon Carter
It's hard. You'd probably need a degree + a guaranteed job to get a visa. English won't help that much unless you want to be an English teacher.
Julian Ortiz
What would be reasonable for Japan in terms of a trade deal, in such a case? Legitimately curious of the Japanese standpoint here.
Aaron Thompson
Asian culture literally throw rocks at eachother. Asian cultures don't get along and America has always had a strong relation with Japan. Why in the fuck would you side with a shady chinky two eyed no good looking fuckface, who has probably already eaten your cat, over a country that at the very least has your back if you enter a war.
Cameron Collins
>He attacks Japan >walk away from US and build relationship with China Because China has never talked shit about Japan in the most undiplomatic manner or imposed rules that only favour them, right?
Is your name Yui Mimura by any chance?
Connor Scott
actions have consequences you fat fuck
Kayden Hill
Most people can read it and use it through a regular computer keyboard. Old people might struggle a bit.
Lincoln Cruz
MEIJI RESTORATION NOW
Samuel Hernandez
thanks
Daniel Johnson
yeah. It's so called diplomacy.
And Now US take same stance on Japan.
What should we do? simply obey to US?
or distribute risks?
Lincoln Allen
Sure they do, but if someone steals your pen do you stab them in the heart?
Also not that it matters but i weight 9.5 stone, anna
Cameron Scott
give me a break. you fucks were the ones that prevented japan from conquering east asia. i dunno why nips have no dignity anymore
Camden Cruz
I don't know to be honnest.
FTA is probably good enough. but it require another few years to sign.
Hunter Clark
Japan is racist as fuck and since you don't allow immigrants you're going to be screwed in a few years. Have fun Japs.
Asher Ortiz
Bring back the samurai
Elijah Ramirez
Why doesn't Japan just become apart of USA like Cuba or Puerto Rico idk. What the hell do japs even politics about? Place seems stable as fuck, not sure why they don't want Mexican workers I'd be game to go work over there. Is it because they don't want mixed children? Whatever hopefully jap women like smelly taco Mexicans like me
Evan Taylor
What would satisfy japan? you can work out maybe even a better deal
Kevin Adams
kay not a big deal, just gotta be high energy for like a year the same way trump is
Henry Green
>japan wants to ally with china
japan, are you feeling okay? is this a sign of sickness in nips? should i take you to a doctor?
Blake Robinson
White piggu, go homu!
Dylan Baker
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Jason Bailey
can you be any more narcissistic?
Evan Wood
SHIP MORE GUNDAMS AAAAHHHHHHH
Michael Scott
Japanese aren't white, Japan is only good for Whites to move into once the West collapses from Marxism.
Brayden Nelson
Trump wants to stop having to pay to defend you, amend your constitution to allow military. Best way to freak out Chinese and Koreans is militarized japan with american licensed tech. and keep your race mixing to a minimum
Jason Barnes
kek speaks
Oliver Bailey
>America first!!!! >attack western ally and want to "cooporate" with Russia
Are you okay? America.
You changed me!
Brayden Miller
>you changed me its true, you know
Easton King
why do i hate to spend my life for "national interest"?
I am selfish, so I would rather gain benefit by economic activity.