are you just perpetually disgruntled and annoyed? hahah must suck
the last few month have been the best political months of my whole life hahaha
What does it feel like being a leftist right now?
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Josiah Rogers
Leftists were so self-assured of their own moral superiority, I think they're still in shock, and in denial, that the rest of the world doesn't agree with them.
Bentley Flores
Pretty good, your shit president might actually have made enough people mad enough to get some real work done
Dominic Ramirez
>your
He's /our/ president you faggot
Tyler Davis
As a far left (ow boi here comes) the last few months has been a fucking nightmare. But that's how the bourgeois liberal democracy works, it's a constantly changing in the political expectrum. By the way in Brazil the liberals actually align themselves with the conservatives.
Henry Sanchez
Trump is doing things Bernie wishes, but is too cucked to the DNC establishment to ever do.
Bernie will die having accomplished nothing.
He's also a Jew, so unless he is born again before he dies he will also burn in Hell.
How does this make you feel?
Ryan Morgan
What has he done to make you mad though?
Bentley Reed
Leftist here. What's not to love about Trump? As long as he doesn't start a war or becomes full megacorp shill he's based as fuck. I wish our politicians had the balls to pull something like him.
Right wingers hate him and leftards too. He must be doing something right.
Christian Anderson
I've never seen so many attacks on democracy from the left on my life, bro. I swear to god one of my run-of-the-mill socialist friends pretty much said to me that maybe people shouldn't vote at all because that's how we end up with Brexit and Trump.
But then, no matter what, I'm the undemocratic fascist.
Ryder Jenkins
Right now being a leftist is being a winner
Leo Mitchell
>being a Spanish
>being a fascist
Are you dumb or do you never actually pick a history book? Fascism basically destroy your country.
Gabriel Perry
Really? I won't be happy until we deport them all and start colonizing the rest of the world with white children.
Mason Campbell
Look I get that you're trying to force this stupid pic and that other stupid pic that you post immediately after this stupid pic into a shitty meme but it's not working and it's pretty cringy so please stop posting it.
Nathaniel Flores
What are you even mad about?
Blake Sanchez
>uses a picture of sjw antifa girl in a right wing thread
Jace Baker
Fascism made Spain great again. It was objectively a spectacular success in every metric. A grand, beautiful and noble thing. And then when it had achieved its objective of defending Spain from communism, it devolved peacefully to democracy. God, monarch and nation!
Bentley Reyes
Social democrat here, Trump is great, he's the champion of the working class and it seems that both Dems nad Republicans are mostly oblivious to it because of his stance on brown people.
Julian Anderson
>200.000 dead
>peacefully
Austin Sullivan
If you meant fixing 'leftist' politics to make it about improving working and living conditions for ordinary Americans again, I'd actually be glad about this. However, you're more likely still stuck on this insanity that is the identity politics bandwagon. I look forward to years of infighting between those on the left who get this, and the idiots who don't, preventing the maddest agendas from being pursued. Unfortunately, this means there's nothing to keep the right honest, though. Fuckwits...
Jaxon Jackson
My wife is a super big libshit and she feels isolated and sad right now
Jeremiah Wood
good. all leftist subhumans deserve to feel that
Christian Young
>
>Fascism made Spain great again.
No. It just removed a corrupt democracy for a corrupt dictatorship. It didn't do anything to limit cronyism and in fact it encouraged it.
All the problems Spain currently have can be found back then. There is no room for "grand, noble and beautiful" in politics. It's all about getting your hands dirty and being good at it. They were rather sloppy.
>And then when it had achieved its objective of defending Spain from communism, it devolved peacefully to democracy.
Confirmed for having no idea of what actually happened.
Commies BTFO is a good thing, but fascists taking over was not good.
Thinks haven't changed. Either corrupt "muh patria" bastards who would sell Spain to the highest bidder or SJW-tier idiots who would ruin their country without even knowing it.
Camden Young
Look at the West today. This is what they wanted. No god. No monarch. No nation. Franco literally did nothing wrong.
Connor Nelson
The fuck do you know? My own grandfather sat in jail for two years after the war, with tuberculosis. He never fully regained his health. Yet my father recently said to me, mocking our leftist acquaintance, that even though he had a REAL grievance against Franco for what had happened to his father, he now recognises that almost everything he had done had been for the good of the country. It's just sad that it's taken so many decades of misrule to impress this on him. After coming out of prison, my grandfather walked straight into a decent job at an enterprise Franco set up, which he worked at for the rest of his life in complete security. I now live in his flat, which I would never be able to afford myself, despite my so-called 'middle class' profession. I don't know what the fuck tomorrow will bring, and am amazed that people took so much for granted back before 1975.
Chase Evans
>Brazil fails reading comprehension
Spanish user didn't say he's a fascist.
His stupid liberal friends have undemocratic and fascist views, but then call Spanish user the "undemocratic fascist".
(Calling him dumb made you look straight up retarded because you didn't even understand what he meant)
Caleb Collins
International communists and literal Stalinist death squads tried to take over your country and depose the king and abolish Christianity. It was either that or fascism. There was literally no alternative. The good guys won, your nation survived, and fascism devolved to democracy after MSGA.
Austin Wright
Spanish descendent here. My family flew from Franco. The uncle of my grandfather was tortured and kill by the government, and he's a fucking galego didn't even know what communism or fascism was.
Jack Russell
Too bad antifa and all these protests and riots are making you look like animals. Seriously you guys should stop or America will vote republican for quite awhile.
Levi Rogers
>My family flew from Franco
Were they filthy commies? If yes, I say good riddance.
Brayden Russell
>didn't even know what communism or fascism was
DINDU NUFFIN !
Jace Baker
>It just removed a corrupt democracy for a corrupt dictatorship.
Wrong. How can you be corrupt when everything on the country belongs to one person? There was corruption but only that allowed by Franco, otherwise you were stealing from him and you were dealt with accordingly. Even if it's just nothing but leftist shillery check Preston's book on Franco.
>Commies BTFO is a good thing, but fascists taking over was not good.
It was Franco or becoming a Soviet state. No other way about it bro. I'd have rather liked a Pinochet but we had what we had.
Benjamin Long
They were from Galicia. Didn't even know what was communism or fascism.
Josiah Morris
>Look at the West today. This is what they wanted. No god. No monarch. No nation. Franco literally did nothing wrong.
You misunderstand.
No God is the top edgelord fedora response to the corrupt system that is the church. It was them who killed spirituality and turned it into a business.
No monarch is the response of years of slacking, incompetent kings who had a great nation on their hands and wasted it away. It is a wrong response, for it expects that things will magically solve themselves with the people's goodwill.
No nation is the response to endless, gruesome wars for petty reasons. The problem is thay a nation must be there to protect the culture and the good life of its people. If you don't have a nation someone else will.
Are they wong? Yes, but they clearly identify the problem.
Adrian Smith
Then that's unfortunate.
Isaac Butler
Commie scum here.
I just don't know anymore. On the internet I've seen so many "fuck neo-liberalism and identity politics" lefties suddenly start to chimp out and go with all the anti-trump media narrative aka "trump is sexeest raceest, muh immigrants" bullshit.
I was exited with Trump winning because it meant the disitegration of the establishment and the birth of some new good leftist movement. But not like this.
I almost long for some right-wing ideology that would actually take me away from this mess at this point.
I feel you bruh.
Thomas Williams
Yes it was. My grandfather was actually a big Franco fan before the repression start to kick in
Ryder Collins
>(((they))) clearly identify the problem
Ftfy.
Anthony Nguyen
Is the communist party starting to rise again in Russia or it's just a meme?
Joseph Young
Can't you apply for a Spanish citizenship, I'd imagine that live there is better than in Brazil?
Oliver Walker
Communist party in Russia is a meme.
Connor Watson
Many were in the wrong place at the wrong time, yes. The same COULD very easily have happened to my grandfather too, and we are fully cogniscent of that. Even so, we enjoyed the peace and prosperity afterwards, which looks like fucking heaven compared to the mess of today. Heh, and us poor fucks down here in Granada had no means to fly to the Americas! We were stuck here and had to survive, not able to afford your family's little adventure. Where did your family get all this money from? Oooh, let's smash the bourgeoisie! Let's have a civil war! Oh shit, it's not working out, let's fly to Brazil! Nice for some to have the luxury to play around with the fates of entire nations and then piss off and mythologise their memories of it, while others are left to clean up the mess.
Jacob Davis
>Wrong. How can you be corrupt when everything on the country belongs to one person?
Thanks, I'll check that book Though for me it seems very simple. In Spain we are a very tribal people. Franco surrounded himself with friends or powerful people and gave them power. That was corruption, but also consolidation of his power. Even when shit seemed to be going South he still made sure to keep his friends happy. He was a practical man.
>It was Franco or becoming a Soviet state. No other way about it bro.
That's what bothers me the most. Almost 100 years later we still have no real alternative. Commies have pretty much destroyed everything they touched.
Juan Anderson
>what does it feel like being a leftist right now?
Assuming you mean an actual leftist and not some neolib.
Feels pretty okay user.
A little worried about the short-term effects of a Trump presidency but this could be just what we need to start the accelerationism train rolling in the long-term.
Connor Sanders
I already have a Spanish passport. But I don't know, even with the amount the crap I have to face it everyday I still like my country. But maybe if the times get rougher I would do it.
Lincoln Williams
>I almost long for some right-wing ideology that would actually take me away from this mess at this point.
That is why they call us reactionaries. I was a marxist activist at university. Then I realised the entire thing is motivated by hatred and resentment of whites and culture. I didn't even understand what the objectives were in the end, just felt like a useful idiot for jews and muslims. Look at the West today. This is where even centrist leftism gets you.
Lincoln Bennett
right wingers hate him? cluesess
Austin Wilson
They came to Brazil by boat. They were farmers.
Grayson Gonzalez
Explain? How will any of this bring the working class over to your side?
Brandon Walker
Everyone on neogaf is in a constant state of despair, it's beautiful.
Ayden Young
What scares me now that with all the Trump hate the left will succump to the neolib anti-trump brainwashing, and instead of the left that would be an opposition both to neolibs and to Trump, the left would just get cucked even more.
Dominic Perez
I mean Spanish ""right wingers"". Our elections were basically left and right telling the other "Hurr durr you are a Trump!"
Caleb Barnes
Ah, you said "flew" when you meant "fled".
Brody Taylor
Not particularly bothered
Trump is just another bourgeois capitalist. If anything he is a sign of how desperate the system is becoming.
Liberal hand-wringing is useless and will fix nothing. A revolutionary proletarian movement is needed to overcome all capitalists and reactionaries, not just Trump.
David Walker
Do you understand that if economic collapse comes, it won't be leftism that radicalises people? Whites are going to wake up and find that they are competing to get out of the mess with different tribes who hate them and are largely responsible for bringing down what used to be a sustainable nation. Tribalism will take over, natural survival instincts reasserting themselves and agitated by millions of people like us. These antifa own the cities for now, but watching quietly from home are millions of militia armed to the teeth watching these cunts wreck their nation, not to mention the military. If shtf, the cities will be put under siege. Leftist uprising might have worked in homogeneous societies, but the white working class aren't going to feel solidarity with skinny fat racetraitors, shitskins and jews shrieking kill all the white man and trying to replace the American Dream with communist dystopia.
Ethan Powell
Idealist intellectuals have always struggled when it came to that part of it. Very few of them have any notion of how to relate to the working man. And then we end up with somebody from the entrepreneurial class who instinctively knows how to talk to them, from decades of dealing with contractors and employees in the real world.
Bentley Rodriguez
>Marrying a libshit
What were you thinking?
Adrian Phillips
Gee, I wonder which demographic is responsible for putting that idea in your head. The only one it would benefit.
>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
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>Winston Churchill exposes forces behind Communism
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The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party:
Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Lourie (Larine) JEW
Ouritski JEW
Volodarski JEW
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) JEW
Smidovitch JEW
Sverdlof (Yankel) JEW
Nakhamkes (Steklof) JEW
The Council of the People’s Commissars:
Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) JEW
Food Schlichter JEW
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
State Control Lander JEW
State Lands Kauffman JEW
Works V. Schmidt JEW
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) JEWess
Religions Spitzberg JEW
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Hygiene Anvelt JEW
Finance Isidore Goukovski JEW
Press Volodarski JEW
Elections Ouritski JEW
Justice I. Steinberg JEW
Refugees Fenigstein JEW
Refugees (assist.) Savitch JEW
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski JEW
Juan Howard
I wouldn't care if communism was Jewish, I'd still support it
Fascist goyim must perish.
Xavier Nelson
socialism is poison
Joshua Perry
Perdóname
Kayden Moore
Go fuck a bagel
Samuel Robinson
For the capitalists. And that is a very good thing.
Alexander Ward
The only left wing leader to actually became popular
Lucas Howard
>Fascist goyim must perish.
Why, bearing in mind that "fascist" has very loose and wide meaning these days?
Jacob Torres
It would be far more efficacious to put Lenin down as a "part Jew". He was a quarter. Not specifying this just invites pointless arguing over trivia, missing the main point - that the early Soviet leadership was not representative and dominated by an ethnic element that had special grievances against Christianity and European civilisation.
Caleb Myers
>And that is a very good thing.
Why?
David Johnson
nah
Liam Young
*Become
Caleb Lee
I was a leftist as a kid when it was cool. Bush was president and fucking up. It felt right. Now you just gotta be some sort of half retarded masochist.
Ryder Martin
Is that the lovely Antifafu? Has she switched?
Nicholas Perry
They're enemies of the working class.
Ryan Young
Hitler and Mussolini did far more to help the working people of their respective nations than commies could ever dream.
Austin Taylor
I'm a leftist and I have to say Trump's victory is just what the left needs.
No one will ever take SJWs, Hillary Clinton and people like Lena Dunham seriously ever again.
They have been outed as mentally ill, something people always assumed but now have outright proof.
SJWs have done nothing but ruin the left's image for the last 5 years or more. They have turned important issues about race, sex, gender etc. into topics of ridicule with their attention grabbing hysteria.
Honestly those people made me drift towards fascism. I'm sure the same thing happened to a lot of other people too.
Isaac Turner
>They're enemies of the working class.
No they're not. What about the pigs that take control of the animal farm? Once you have enslaved yourself to the revolutionary proletarian movement (Jews), how is that an improvement?
>Hugo Chavez’s Favorite Daughter Is Richest Person in Venezuela
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>$120 million bed-hopping hypocrite: He claimed he lived on $25 a month. But Castro had 20 luxury homes, a private island, an 88ft yacht - and mistresses galore
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>Kim Jong-un splashes out £14 MILLION on luxury cars while North Korea starves
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>Heirs of Communist China's Eight Immortals 'have amassed huge wealth'
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>Of the seven oligarchs who controlled 50% of Russia's economy during the 1990s, six were Jewish
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Nathaniel Richardson
Originally I put down Lenin as Russian for that reason. But we are on Sup Forums, so people argue over that more.
Gabriel Walker
It must feel good.
They are literally killing Trump supporters and anyone who speaks out against them in cold blood, right in the streets.
This is absolutely insane.
Gabriel Butler
A man of common stock, who knew poverty in youth. Unfortunately, it's the middle-class student types who have most time for what passes for 'activism' these days.
Parker Wood
better than it feels wanting literally Walt Disney characters running America
>Donald
>Mickey
Couldn't make this shit up.
Jayden Wright
They're loving it. Righteous outrage is what the left lives for. We saw after an eight year presidency they don't have much will in terms of actual action, but now they get to be victims which is their highest calling in life.
Cameron Baker
>Honestly those people made me drift towards fascism. I'm sure the same thing happened to a lot of other people too.
This. No wonder Mussolini was a leftist before.
Being a leftist and opposing all the SJW/identity politics/neolib media propaghanda feels really like a struggle today.
Jeremiah Stewart
They were fascist scum put in power by elite businessmen like Krupp and they repressed unions, like the Red Years in Italy. They should've been tortured and executed in Red Square.
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The extermination of fascists and capitalists is good and necessary.
Joshua Williams
While largely correct, this fails to recognise that "Soviets" in this case just meant workers' councils - spontaneous local organisations with direct democracy. NOT the RSFSR! Even in Russia, soviet power was a facade. The Bolshevik party were in power, and purged the original soviets of dissent.
Isaiah Stewart
>grievances against Christianity and European civilisation.
So wanting to prevent the collapse of European civilisation is having a 'special grievance' against it?
Josiah Brooks
Who's going to be left to exterminate fascists after your population starved to death according to your communist values
Adrian Rivera
Technically vast majority of the old bolsheviks were also purged though.
Christian Hill
But the people in power in Red Square were even worse. Greedier and more corrupt.
They also murdered millions of their own people.
How do you stop bad people from taking power in a leftist revolution? Every single time it has been tried, the system that dominated after the revolution was worse than what went before, or even than could've been imagined in terms of corruption and death.
Levi Wood
I'm talking about the Jews. Preventing the collapse of European civilisation has never been a strong suit of theirs. You must have misread me.
Joseph Hughes
Communists ended starvation in Russia and China after centuries of endless famines. The Holodomor is a Nazi lie.
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David Lee
I know. Slavno bylo. Blagodaryu, dorogoi Soso.
Cameron Phillips
>The good guys won
read orwell about the spanish civil war
Henry Foster
Looks at all those reputable sources! It's not like they have an agenda or anything.
You know how the MSM/Neoliberals lie about Hitler and the Nazis?
Yeah they do that with the commies too.
Sorry for the (literally) red pill but it's true. It works both ways.
Jaxson White
Russian shill confirmed. HAHA Noob!!
Luke Long
>wanting to prevent the collapse of European civilisation
When we read about the history of our people, we read about 2,500 years of glorious Western civilisation. When Jews read about the history of their people, they read about 2,000 years of persecution, ghettoisation, expulsion, and pogroms that ended in a holocaust at the hands of white Christians. Their identity, consciousness and ideologies form accordingly. All Jews share this Jewish experience. Western civilisation is the last thing they want to preserve. It poses an existential threat to them. Where do you think all this anti-white, anti-Christianity, anti-West hate comes from? All the degeneracy, diversity and multiculturalism. Marxism was specifically designed to destroy Western civilisation, that's why it was almost exclusively a Jewish movement from Moscow to San Fransisco. Of course, we are talking generally here, not about every single Jew.
Andrew Richardson
No thanks, I think I'd be better off asking my own family, or looking at photos of the historical treasures in my town that the Reds destroyed in a fit of stupid iconoclasm.
Adam Cooper
Im green. Voted for jill stein in the last two elections.
Trump has been a godsend.
1)Getting us off of saudi oil
2) bringing musk in (clean energy will be utilized for its economic advantages NOT moral/environmental advantages- a fact we cannot escape
3) not letting china gain more water space for subs
4) ending tpp
5) calling for importing canadian drugs
6) opening state borders for insurance competition (soon)
7) standing up to iran
8) wrecking the bush family
9) soon to rectify H1b abuse
10) closing our open border to criminals- i am a leftist. Citizens of mexico are exploited in fields here for two buck chuck and undermine american jobs- taking jobs for uneducated people-basically rats in class warfare. Read a piece in harpers about the cartels in 2009. Brutal shit. And of course we have vids
11) ending the revolving door between govt and lobbying
Trump is based and not owned. I am very impressed with my countrymen for voting him in, and have high confidence in his intelligence and ability to manage people
Tyler Smith
>But the people in power in Red Square were even worse
if you were a white emigre, sure. for the workers of the Soviet Union, it was a million times better than Russia before 1917 or since 1991.
Dominic Cox
I used to be a Marxist, a literal communist. I know all about them from personal experience. I'm highly educated and deeply read. I would rather Hitler and the Nazis than any Marxist or leftist. Wake up my dude. You are a useful idiot for bad people who hate and want to destroy you.
Justin Bennett
fuck of commie cunt
John Taylor
The Bolshevik party had so many factions that it was actually more broad ranging in terms of political views than many two-party or multi-party systems.
The only difference was that they all had to come to a final decision and it was usually Lenin etc. who made the call, but everyone had their say. From the NazBols to the more Social Democrat wings.
Ryder Russell
>it was a million times better than Russia before 1917 or since 1991
No it wasn't. It was spirit-crushing slavery to anti-white, anti-christ Jews. Literally anything is better than that. I would rather be a serf.