I've been scrolling through Sup Forums for ages and the main argument I seem to encounter is "We're not nazis...

I've been scrolling through Sup Forums for ages and the main argument I seem to encounter is "We're not nazis, we don't believe in exterminating other races, we simply want our own race to survive and that's not wrong."
Yet, no matter how much I've looked, I have never seen anyone provide a reason for this. Why do you want the white race to survive? Why do you think it matters, other than an animalistic desire to propagate your genes? Is it really that important?

What is culture
What is tradition

Your great great grandfather would be so disappointed in you if he knew you were a nigger lover

An animalistic desire to let our genes carry on is part of it, sure. But no-one can deny the achievements of the whites, and that we're superior in almost every single way to other races.

Still, no reason or argument provided, just a random label that hardly has anything to do with my original post.

I don't really care about matters of race, but I do feel like there is a movement out there meant to demonize and destroy white males. I don't want to end up having to pay reparations, or suffer other bullshit or something one day just because I sat back and allowed my race to become a weak minority in the country that my grandfathers fought for.

It's not really that I'm a racist, it's just that I don't want to be the target of racism in the future, and judging by the current state of liberalism in this country and the attitudes that many minorities have, that's where things are headed.

The world as you know it exists solely because of the white race, faggot

>Race ought to mean the same thing for us that it does for everyone else. It's only fair.

Does that make sense to you?

>genetic, cultural, religious and national diversity which has developed for tens of thousands of years

>lol its just skin pigment lmao

Why are the opinions of my dead ancestors worth me changing my life

It's not so much a fear of white extinction but a fear of what might happen to white people once they become a vulnerable minority in their own lands.

>Why do you want the white race to survive?
read up on the fucking entire fucking history of the fucking western civilization you paki child-fucking fuck

Plenty of people deny it. Even if the achievements of whites are notable, why is that a reason for the white race to survive? Species naturally disappear all the time, cultures are wiped out all the time, it hasn't lead to apocalypse or anything notable happening that would make me think it's a bad thing.

>cultures are wiped out all the time

And they're usually succeeded by long periods of technological and social stagnation

90%+ of scientific research and development was done by whites. We're objectively more advanced than the other races and thus have a better claim to this planet than the others. We also have the most interesting and lengthy history of all the races.

>why do you want to reproduce like why is it really that important

I don't think race means the same thing to two people in this world, never mind whole groups. I can see the train of thought behind what you said, but it's rather simplistic and linear and still doesn't provide a reason. Even if every other race believed theirs is superior and must survive at all costs, it doesn't provide a reason for that belief which, in turn, doesn't say why white people should hold this belief.

Because those opinions lead to the successful society you're currently happy to throw away and once it's been thrown away it will take a very long time to revive.

If you are white and you ask why would anyone want the white race to survive you are retarded and deserve to be culled.Also /pol is not one person,i strongly belive in the national socialist ideology and its doctrines.

>If you are white and you ask why would anyone want the white race to survive you are retarded and deserve to be culled

This.

>I don't think race means the same thing to two people in this world, never mind whole groups.
It means exactly the same thing to everyone outside of upper-middle class white liberals.

Why do you even want to reproduce? You still haven't given me a solid argument as to why you should reproduce.
You haven't even given me a solid argument as to why you shouldn't just commit suicide. Why is it necessary that you live? Many people have killed themselves and it hasn't lead to apocalypse or anything notable happening that would make me think that it's a bad thing.

Stop grouping all of Europe under a moronic label invented by Amerifats, faggot. Nobody cared about "muh whiteness" when those accomplishments were being made. It was about nationality/ethnicity.

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>Even if every other race believed theirs is superior
>Even if

Maybe I was specific about the people on /pol who don't believe in the national socialist ideology because... it wasn't aimed at you? Just a thought.

OP - If the asian race were dying out would you ask them the same question?

The world will be under totalitarian rule by Asians for thousands of years after whites are gone.

Shitskins are creating a very bleak future for their ample offspring. The harsh reality of real fascism awaits them.

What counts as an argument for or against any moral stance?
What is the argument against killing all other races? Or for helping struggling niggers to survive?
There is no moral absolute, so wanting to keep your race alive is as good as any other.

I don't want to reproduce. If I gather the appropriate resources to raise a child in an appropriate environment, why should I create a child whose needs I need to meet when there are plenty of children who already exist with the same needs?

Equating suicide with one race slowly being replaced by different genes is not an argument either.

Yes.

this.

i guess our definitions of success differ. growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell. we have no culture and no principles.

>t. mulatto

You'll never understand because you have no identity.

See, this is where the argument goes wrong: no race is better than any other, but there are differences ... no seeing the differences is like telling an obviously black man "oh, are you black? I didn't notice!"

>I don't want to reproduce.
There's you problem, you have a mental disorder. Get an appointment with your GP.

>Equating suicide with one race slowly being replaced by different genes is not an argument either.
How? Why do you need to live? Nothing bad would result from you killing yourself.

>growth for the sake of growth

It's growth for the sake of preserving civilisation as you know it

>growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell
It's the "ideology" of every single living thing.

I have an identity, it just doesn't boil down to wanting my race to come out on top, but rather what I accomplish as an individual throughout my lifetime.

It's not just the skin colour, it's the culture/cultures that are a part of it. Relentless multiculturalism is destroying our cultures

>wanting to be on top
>having a right to exist

Pick one

>I have an identity
Let me guess, genderqueer militant atheist radical centrist?
You need to see a doctor because lack of desire to reproduce is indicative of many serious mental and physical health conditions.

and what's the point of that if we know it's pointless in the long run?

why not just give up and let everyone do what they want?

Why haven't you killed yourself then? What's the point in living through tomorrow, it's really not worth the energy desu.

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I believe in preserving life that already exists. As in, people who are alive, now, in the present. We exist, we are sentient, have feelings, have goals and desires, we matter because we are alive and being alive is what allows us to designate our lives as important. The white people who will never be born will never know they were not born. They will never be aware or care that their race has disappeared.

Regarding the issue of reproducing, there's a difference between lacking the desire to reproduce and making the rational choice not to. It's natural to want to spread your genes. It's irrational to do so, imo. I choose following logic rather than physical desires.

i actually enjoy simple pleasures in life instead of overthinking it.

but yeah, i can understand if you're unable to get laid

None of those actually, but have a fun time guessing.

You're asking why we'd like to pursue self-preservation and community preservation?

Maybe because we're not 14-year-old edgy nihilists anymore.

>Why does ANYTHING matter at all, man? Why doesn't everyone just kill themselves?

How novel. You could be a goddamn postmodern philosopher.

Not white here. Always been a nationalist.
What is wrong with people loving their roots and wanting to preserve their cultural and genetic heritage?
Is it the worst thing ever? Why is it so demonized? If it wasnt for 20th century fascism people wouldnt bitch against it.
Now I've seen other well thought replies on your thread and you only answered to the weak replies...
Whether white race is superior or not. Wanting to preserve your heritage is hypocritically demonized by the media.
White citizen wants to take measure to preserve his culture? White supremacist + Racist.
Indigenous citizen is voluntarily helped to leave their heritage and integrate to the modern world? Brave indigenous citizen + oppressive modern world...

>I believe in preserving life that already exists.
Why? You haven't offered any arguments.
Still, no reason or argument provided, just a random label that hardly has anything to do with my original post.

> I choose following logic rather than physical desires.
From everything you've posted it's clear that you aren't following any kind of logic. You're repeating the views of an edgy 16-18 year old.

>lack of desire to reproduce is indicative of many serious mental and physical health conditions
how so?
what if life is just a ride and some day every single one of us will be gone and it will be as if we never existed?
then you will regret not having lived in the moment and wasting your time on a bunch of spoiled brats

Notice how he (or I'm leaning towards she, probably a coalburner) conveniently dodged this question

>why do we want to keep our people and culture alive?
because thats the pourpose of life
animals dont have culture,religion or idiology,so they spread their genes
they fight,they kill and they die only to chance to spread their genes,their DNA
humans are more evolved,instead of spreading our genes,we spread our culture,our tradition,we keep our heritage alive even if it means that we must die to do so
its the natural order of things
our ancestors fought and died for us to do the same for our children,and them to do it for their children

i cant answer for white supremacists, i don't understand them.

i myself am white though, but i do see that alot of white people are hated because of their skin colour, and it's fucked up when people say "you cant be racist against white people" or "black people cant be racist"
i don't know think it's important for the 'white race to remain pure' and you cant really tell if someone is pure white, or what being pure white actually is.
though i do hate fucking racism against white people and the racists don't think that discriminating against white is actual racism. it fucking kills me inside. lmao

So your an atheist hedonist, bent on abusing the comforts and safety afforded to you by the hard work and sacrifice of your ancestors?

Alright, why not do the same for your children, then?

Why is the future unimportant to you? Is it because you won't be there to experience it?

>how so?
It can indicate various cancers, hormone production problems, mineral deficiencies along with depression, schizophrenia and a whole other host of mental disorders.

>every single one of us will be gone and it will be as if we never existed?
This will definitely be the case if you leave no traces of your existence behind. :^)

>So your an atheist hedonist, bent on abusing the comforts and safety afforded to you by the hard work and sacrifice of your ancestors?
>Alright, why not do the same for your children, then?
i'm not an idiot like they were. just because your ancestors believed some bullshit doesn't make it true

>i'm not an idiot
You're either an idiot or underage. Probably both.

>just because your ancestors believed some bullshit doesn't make it true
what if it was true and you just think you're smarter than them for not believing? kek

Me being here to enjoy and preserve the fruits of their labour proves that it is both true and good

babby's first hedonism

if you don't kill yourself by 30, your own genes will make you snap back into reality

>This will definitely be the case if you leave no traces of your existence behind. :^)
this will be the case no matter what. universe has a lifespan, you know

i'm eternally grateful for my parents for raising me with this knowledge. black pill is really hard to swallow if you don't take it as a child

they had far less information and access than we do today

then they have no excuse for being ignorant of the truth that Jesus exists, yet we both know there are many who are ignorant? (uh oh bro)

>justify your existence goy
>tactical nihilism

I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post

>truth that Jesus exists
except he doesn't. it's a bullshit story sold to us by the kikes, just like most religions.

Whiteness is having genes from Europe. It's very simple. One of those gene tests can literally tell you how "caucasian" (i hate this shitty word) you are.

Stop making it about race.. It is more about culture. Any culture who wants to hurt someone of a different culture is a cunt. Golden Rule.... All races are just people.... some cultures are pure shit

Yes.

>except he doesn't.
hmm, the majority of scholars (including non-christan atheist schols) agree that he existed.

Alright 15 year old faggot,here it goes.My people fought in hundreds of wars to preserve our land against dozens of other people many wars were lost and many died wetting our land with their blood and feeding it with their flesh.Most of those men were poor peasents that did not think why or for what they were going to war yet their purpose was clear.Thanks to them I LIVE TODAY in my country,being able to call it my land.Its my personal choice to be thankfull for all the bread i eat and have solidarity towards my people.From the begining of time we have been tribalists,we have struggeled and if one does not feel any loialty towards his tribe,then the group is endangered.Its natural and it has solid reasons for why it is there.If you lack any loialty towards anything then you are basically a walking dead organism,a genetical dead-end.....you mighy as well ask why even breathe.

agree completely. though some of the immigrants may assimilate, some of them won't, and some of them are terrorists and will kill us

fuck yeah romania

>exists
he might have EXISTED (and not all scholars agree on this), but he doesn't exist anymore.

just deal with the fact that in all likelihood we are glorified carbon based robots created by accident and our existence means nothing. it will set you free and free you from expectations.

>our existence means nothing
yes. i agree. you have no reason to live other than personal pleasure
XD
ggwp

PICKING SOMETHING UP ON MY SCANNERS!

>this will be the case no matter what. universe has a lifespan, you know
You're right, Stalin left no impact on the world and you will cease to exist once your parents die. :^)

I ask myself the question sometimes if it is even a good idea to have kids at this point. If you do, it's practically a certainty that your genetics will end up mixed in with shitskin DNA at some point down the line due to invasion of Europe. And honestly I find the very idea of that disturbing and revolting.

>is it really that important
I suppose nothing is important when you realize one day the sun will blow up and everything humans worked for will vanish without a trace.

However when you think about what sort world you want your children to grow up in (obviously wanting to see your children safe and happy) then yes it is certainly more important than whatever you last cried over

MAGNIFYING

JUST A LITTLE MORE

Jesus Christ... Mongolians...

>Kaffir
kek

>You're right, Stalin left no impact on the world
When he dies, everything he did will almost certainly be forgotten.

Just realize that this blind mysticism is a huge chip on your shoulder.

You refuse to do something for yourself just because it hurts someone else who, according to the subversive culture you were raised in, didn't deserve it, even though we were programmed by nature to act that way.

*when the world dies, not Stalin

You sound afraid of the white man.

Shitskins fear, hate, envy, *and* love us in equal measures. This is the ultimate redpill.

I like my peoples recessive features very much.
I want to be around people who look like myself.
That's it. Now stop propagating for my genocide, thank you.

>current year +2 and not being red pilled on racial differences.
>implying animalistic desire and biological imperative isn't a just enough reason.
>ignoring all the good white culture and the white race has done for the world.

Do you realize what kind of shit hole earth your descendents will live in when the majority of Europe and North America are average 85 IQ mongrels? Probably not because your nihilism is driven by you being a NEET with no reproductive prospects, or you are some (((non white))) engaging in tactical nihilism for your own benefit while not abiding by your own rules when it suits your own (((group))).

You live in an environment where you are allowed to not believe in the survival of the fittest. Modern society harbors all kinds of people, including the degenerates.

By preserving individual cultures and races, instead of mixing them up.. You are strengthening the human race. High civilization pretty much turns a human into a shadow of its former self.

> or you are some (((non white))) engaging in tactical nihilism for your own benefit while not abiding by your own rules when it suits your own (((group))).

i think it's the latter. this person obviously is a racist and hates white people

OP is a waste of white skin

American Negro is a race?

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Why do you wake up Evey morning?

Seriously why don't you just kill yourself? Not joking. If I have to justify my reproductive rights and racial existence, why shouldn't you have to justify your continued living if nothing really matters? Why don't you just cease existing if nothing really matters?

What kind of autisim is this? Get out of here with this dumb shit Mohammed.

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This

2pbp

>Why do you want the white race to survive?
1. Because I love my mom and dad. They're of my race, they are my kin. My race is my distant family. I want my family to survive and prosper. It's natural. That's what I was brought up to believe in. Family is important.

2. My children. I want my offspring to have a good life. My children are of my race and I don't want them to live in a society that is alien to them. I want them to be among those who share their culture and genetic traits. Living with niggers or muslims is simply dangerous.

3.Survival of white race is simply moral thing to wish for. Ffs we fight for survival of dangerous predatory species. Why don't we try to preserve white race that built our civilization and tamed the fucking planet?

Are you sure you don't have any mongol genes, Ivan Alibekovich?

I might have I don't know. It may by the reason my country isn't cucked by chechens, Boris. Mongols were great warriors.

Seriously though I have German ancestry and my wife is Russian who is very proud of Russian culture. I think real dignified Russian people exist outside Russia. Descendants of Imperial colonists and exiles. Modern Russia is mostly peasants.

It gives me some comfort knowing that if the shit skins overrun Europe and north America the Chinese will end up running shit and treat the savages worse than whites ever did.

Its a sad irony that the brown subhumans greed, envy, and hatred of the white man will destroy the only thing that is keeping the yellow stampede at bay.

Blacks Arabs and mestizos think whites are bad but they have no idea what is in store for them when we are gone. I give it 100 years before the Chinese get sick of there shit and just genocide them all to create yellow world.
It will be one last fuck you from whitey from beyond the grave.

Your country isn't cucked by chechens because Chechnya is not a part of it country duh. And no, Russians here and in KZ are the same.
t. Kaz. citizen abroad.