I am a bit confused by how openly accepted communism is compared to nazism in the modern world; just the great leap forward alone in China has purged 30 million at the very least (the scholars in HK will tell you it's 50 million +), while nazis racked a tally of 6 million, even when the communists try to crank up the math by calculating all other nazi tally including combatant death, the total only comes up to around 20 million, still nowhere near the China tally, not counting the soviet era great purge, holodomor and other killings.
Both plays identity politics, with focuson the extermination of a group; Nazis went for Jews, Commies went for the 'bourgeois' then killed a bucket of their own through starvation.
My question is: since both group are extermination focused, howcome communism is accepted in universities while nazism isn't allowed?
Nathan Miller
>My question is: since both group are extermination focused, howcome communism is accepted in universities while nazism isn't allowed?
I'm confused.
Why would the universities ban themselves?
Dominic Butler
It is sheer and utter hypocrisy, I'll agree to that. I'd say the most likely explanation is that history is written by the victors. Had the Axis and Allies teamed up against the Soviets and destroyed them, Fascism would be the progressive ideology while Communism is shunned. Also, Communism tends to take the moral high ground on every issue. Most people don't see past the "le equality" meme.
Jonathan Richardson
This. OP, Marxists have just about fully infiltrated our institutions. They run our public schools, universities and the media. From that position of GREAT power they spread their ideology to our young people, it gets ingrained into their heads.
Ethan Cooper
Chekt.
I disagree with the moral highroad comment. I would say that they practice identity politics; they make it Us vs. Them. Funny, because you want to talk about dividing a country, that's a great way to do it.
Contrast with the rhetoric we hear from Trump: jobs for all AMERICANS (incl. Minorities), make deals more fair for AMERICA (incl. minorities), etc. All for AMERICA. Not for one specific, small group. Everyone, which INCLUDES that small group!
Brody Robinson
This.
The communist principles are alive in the west.
That cartoon where the US checkmates the USSR but the the USSR checkmates the US in the mind is so accurate.
The amount of government power involved in maintaining America's top corporates is crony capitalism and no different from state capitalism under the soviets. America has just kept it going longer by printing and borrowing and there is never a confidence crisis because they are the reserve currency.
Ryan Collins
True. It is very noticeable the genuine double think practised by Communism. They will forever claim to be the ones crusading for a society free of underclass and yet at the same time marginalising and branding anyone who doesn't politically agree with them an underclass that needs to be ignored/disenfranchised/mass murdered depending on how "moderate" the speaker is.
Gabriel Adams
1. Communism isn't openly accepted in the western world. Maybe social egalitarianism but not the economic policy of actual communism.
2. Pic related
3. Communism was never supposed to have the big gubberment and the state owning everything. It was supposed to be workers most of the soviet style socialist were just power hungry twats who liked red flags.
Kevin Jones
Do you think communism is all about controlling companies and beeg gubbermeent XD?
Lucas Richardson
Yep. Communists want equality of outcome, I want equality of opportunity. Because the reality is that you can throw all the money in the world at a poor dumb unmotivated white man in an attempt to equalize him in outcome to everyone else, but all you're doing is enabling his worst traits, enslaving him to the handouts. Why not instead try and give Cletus a job? Maybe he'll learn responsibility, take some pride in what he does. Naw, fuck it, give him some food stamps and an Xbox
Logan Cox
Thats what we want eventually when post scarcity has been reached. If you actually want equality of opportunity then its time to abolish inheritance.
Jackson Phillips
>falling for the post scarcity meme
How does it feel being BTFO by the fact that every communist government has failed and killed millions?
Robert Scott
Rojava, Cuba and the Zapitistas are still around.
Robert Sullivan
Also you know that image is pro socialism right?
Charles Hill
Get it through your head you dumb fuck
Saying "it's not the government who owns stuff it's the workers" is a lie.
Every single communist country ends up with elites appointed by government who own everything.
Sebastian Long
Thats the problem with vanguard parties and Leninism. They always end up as an oligarchy. We need a workers revolution led by unions without leaders.
Ethan Perry
And also before the NEP was introduced the soviet union actually had workers councils and stuff.
Andrew Hall
That's fucjing retarded. If no one tells anyone what to do,but the only thing are told is that everything is provided,no one would do anything.
Gavin Campbell
How does a union lead a revolution without the union leadership not simply becoming the vanguard as you describe in Lenin case?
Jose King
Like the way they did it in Catalonia.
Luis Roberts
What?
Hunter Reyes
I'm on mobile and playing cs go give me a break.
John Robinson
so your saying the system is suscetable to massive amounts of infighting corruption and lines in the sand. sounds like really good system.
Elijah Davis
Sorry can you try to re-type I couldn't read it.
Jaxon Rogers
Were they ever really in power? They were essentially just the partisan forces right?
Dylan James
They took 3 provinces and held them for a couple months against a ton of franco's forces. They even abolished money and instead had labor vouchers.
Jordan Wood
Sorry for calling you a dumb fuck before. A lot of shills who don't know any history on pol.
You clearly do know the history and yet surprisingly to me at least, are pro-communist.
Assuming they had defeated Franco, I think they would have gone the same way as the USSR. All the faction purging etc.
I don'the think there is anyway to prevent that in a communist government.
I assume your familiar with the concept that over time psychopaths or sociopaths are attracted to centralised power. There is no way to mitigate or prevent this except with property rights, separation of powers. Etc. All features not present in communist governments so to me it doesn't really matter how a communist society sets out, it is fundamentally flawed in that it easily allows it be hijacked.
Ayden Cook
Well you could always decentralize power to localized people's councils and have them elect representatives that can be recalled like democratic confedralism.
Jonathan Jones
Capitalism has killed more people than communism
Elijah Thomas
Communist values appeal to the weak, the lazy and the unmotivated. Its basically like having parents who decide everything for you, but for adults
Luke Edwards
>capitalism has killed more people than communism Source, faggot
Andrew Lopez
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Juan Thomas
>Communists want equality of outcome, I want equality of opportunity.
Fascists want equality of outcome. The point there is to completely erode individualism in favour of the collective.
Communists want equality of opportunity. The ideology grew out of the Enlightenment, which champions individual liberty.
Noah Bennett
Because of (((them))). There is no other answer
Alexander Peterson
He means: if the government doesn't incentivize and give rolls and functions to people, but instead just gives stuff out for free, people will have no drive to do anything
Robert Bailey
>since both group are extermination focused, howcome communism is accepted in universities while nazism isn't allowed?
KEK, try saying you are a commie in universe and 300 15 year old kids will come saying how you are retarded.
Jaxson Peterson
Giving anything more than food education and health care out for free will do that. We don't really want to just give everyone a ton free stuff right now because of the fact no one would work.
Colton Phillips
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