Should anything be legal in fiction?

Or should there be moral restrictions for the greater good? This is always a hot political topic. Some countries like Japan are extremely liberal, and you can draw just about anything in manga.

Other countries however are very strict and will, one way or another, censor content based on moral.

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drawings shouldnt be illegal, even if you think they are disgusting

Free loli scat drawings
Iz art u alt reichnazis

So long as it's entirely fictional, it's fine. Taking a photo of a naked kid and then tracing that photo? That's wrong, because there was an actual human victim. But just fabricating loli on your own? That's okay. The government shouldn't shoot you for drawing fiction.
>inb4 oh but they'll throw you in jail
And if you refuse to go to jail you get shot, yes, that is how police work. Faggots.

What if you take a photo of a clothed kid and trace it into a naked one? Victim or no?

What if technology improves to the point where a generated image is indistinguishable from reality?

About OP girl, people vote her butt looks flabby... wow.

Why?

I can't unsee that now

It's fine if it isn't Shad

Wouldn't that just completely wipe out pedophile attacks, since it is exactly the same and removes the element of danger if caught?
How is that a bad thing?

Are people just troll voting, or do they really think her butt looks flabby?

1) is the child being forced to do any of this?

2) is the child being shown the drawings you are making?

3) is the drawing made in the likeness of that child specifically as to be recognizable as THAT specific child?

If the answer to any of those is "Yes" then it is 100% illegal, otherwise on a case-by-case basis I would have to let people decide so as to hammer out a specific law.

>You can fuck your dog legally in Canada but drawings are considered child pornography
KeK

With porn, greater access to violent or underage content usually decreases real offences in those areas.

>But what if the child consents doe?
Yeah but in all seriousness I just wanted to check those.

On one side it doesn't exist and should be part of freedom of expression. On the other I can't help but think there should be some kind of limit to what you can publicly distribute.

I'm talking about very extreme shit like guro loli rape muder porn. Maybe put out some "decency" laws that will rely on common sense? But then again it would be a form of censorship so I don't know.

I had the vague idea of some loli/shota artist using random pics of children to learn proportions/poses or whatever. I wasn't thinking that hard about it, just shitposting, and I'm only replying now because of your trips.

I'm in the same boat. I really don't want extreme porn to be anywhere near the mainstream cultural consciousness, but at the same time I'm against censorship...

>Or should there be moral restrictions for the greater good?
No. The idea of restricting fiction is a result of protestants fighting a shadow war against the Catholic church for power and should not be emulated.

I say that as someone who's a borderline monarchist traditionalist otherwise, because if one digs a little one will see that all great civilizations had a strict separation between behaviour and ficiton. Several cathedrals had exposed genitalia in their iconography etc.


What matters is the cohesion of the polity in public, not its means o entertainment in private.

You lolbertarians are pussies with your free speech bullshit, if loli gore vore porn was illegal it would be a benefit to society and you know it, but muh first amendment right, right?

That sounds sort of like how it's viewed in Japan.

A good society needs to balance individual freedoms and what's good for society as a whole. This means that you have to allow some things that the majority of people may dislike. I don't see how standing up for this makes you a "pussy".

If you get too authoritarian, people will eventually revolt. Look at what's happening to the left now...

So what are you saying is that if I can't find my loli gore vore porn in fantasy I have to go and create my own loli gore vore porn in reality? Thank for the great advice leafbro

>That sounds sort of like how it's viewed in Japan.
Seems to work well enough for them. Honestly I'm a bit sick of how traditionalists get hung up on an interpretation of occidental morality that was 99% nothing more than a political weapon and post-dates Enlightenment by about a hundred years.

It's 1) Unnecessary 2) Will always cause fractures 3) Is why we only win when economy and the Tribe get too overtly horrible and are otherwise seen as crazies.

Seriously. Stop propping up druggies/people living in degenerate conditions. It'll be more effective than outlawing that shit, and fiction is 100% not your problem.

how would it benefit society exactly?

How wouldn't it?

it literally would not have an effect on society

It might.

For example, a lot of LGBTQIA+0-AB+ people are vocal about normalizing rather extreme and gross sexual kinks as normal and healthy. Of course something like this has an effect on the culture.

However, if people keep their interest in loli gore vore on the down-low, then it's fine, but we have a problem when the left has so much cultural capital that they can condemn you for "kink shaming" or whatever if you react to people flauting their deviancy.

All censorship is immoral and counterproductive.

Not an argument. Government is a product. Its citizens are the consumers. There is no value in putting arbitrary rules on your customers.

Power exists in order to create the maximum amount of prosperity and safety, not for its own sake.

Noone wants to hear about what you masturbate to/how much you like fucking other men in the butt, it being normalized is the fault of jewish media and society needs to start shaming the people that fall for it.
Making it illegal is not the solution, outlawing things because someone is offended by it is a slippery slope and will just lead to sharia laws.

>be normal well adjusted individual
>practice missionary sex for purpose of procreation
>go on the internet
>discover baby fur
>baby fur is freely available and there are communities about it
>fap to that shit
>completely break your sexuality
>now you have people that will obsess with baby fur and exclusively masturbate to it in their rooms instead of procreating while tyrone is giving the bbc to white women

everything should be legal. the state must be destroyed.

Not how it works. People cease being well adjusted individuals the moment it ceases being profitable to do so.

will you be a best leaf and provide artist?

>be normal well adjusted individual
>fap to baby fur
what

Literary erotica with kids is child porn also under Canadian law.

How do you feel knowing you'll never play Natsuha's game?

I'm gonna need a source for that, too.

Nothing fictional should be illegal because by being fictional it cannot infringe upon the rights of anyone else.

kill yourself pedo

Yes, that's pretty much what I was getting at...

The way society has "progressed", we now have a situation where an act is either socially acceptable, or outright illegal. "Consenting adults, man! Don't judge!". Social norms pressuring people to act with common decency seem to have gone the way of the dodo.

I guess you could say that I'm part of a "kink" community myself. However, if anyone were to publically "out" themself as a BDSM enthusiast or furry or whatever, then I think they deserve to be socially ostracised. Go about your business discretely, and don't disrupt the general culture. Normal people shouldn't have to deal with that stuff.

That's a very bad feel. I felt it yesterday as well, actully. It just looks so comfy:

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>That's a very bad feel. I felt it yesterday as well, actully. It just looks so comfy.

It is very much so. Except dramatic scenes that aren't. But that's needed so you can appreciate the comfy standard more.

so thats where all those smug anime girls are from

Have you played it? I can't read moonrunes...

>Have you played it?

Mhm, I did.

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holy fuck the canadian police are fast