"Multiple attacker techniques" are a myth - do not engage multiple targets hand to hand.
Distance dictates damage - if you control the distance you control the damage
Isaac Reyes
Muay Thai is the redpill of the martial arts for self defence. Muay Thai fighters learn to kick as hard as possible with every kick, sending a shockwave through their opponents body even if the kick is blocked.
It is easy to get good at quickly and if you've got good body kicks you could take on about 5 antifa at once. If someone has a weapon you can strike before they're even within range.
Owen Johnson
Also - witnessed
Colton Torres
>Striking Western boxing
>Grappling Greco-Roman wrestling
>Autism Krav-maga
Leo Wright
What this guy said. You'd have a way easier time finding a Muay Thai class though.
And yeah, I'm about to get a blue belt in BJJ. Still a faggot white belt right now though.
Eli Bell
>if you've got good body kicks you could take on about 5 antifa at once
Not worth the risk. Humans don't see 360.
With multiple attackers, the kicks etc. should only be used to create distance and get the fuck out of there.
Now if you have multiple people supporting you - that's a different story.
Samuel Allen
HEMA
Hudson Nguyen
Yeah, there's no perfect system and you don't have eyes in the back of your head but it's better to know it than not.
I feel comfortable taking 2 average guys on at once if I have to. Half of black bloc are women anyway.
Landon Ortiz
>Autism - Krav-maga 100% Agreed
>Striking - Western boxing Immensely useful - could argue for MT but why bother if someone has a good boxing coach
>Grappling - Greco-Roman wrestling Sure why not
Isaiah Hill
Tong long - ancient Chinese secret.
Julian Miller
>I'm about to get a blue belt in BJJ Congrats - it's a fucking journey
Ayden Carter
blackbelt taekwondo, checking in
Austin Morris
Because when you step in to punch me I kick your front leg out from under you and cut your forehead open with my elbow
Michael Anderson
>better to know it than not 100%. It's going to be important to learn to take a blow as well as deliver one, MT is great conditioning for this
Sebastian Phillips
>kicking in a street fight. Never seen that go well. You better have amazing balance or a good ground game
Hudson Williams
Fair point
I prefer the MT myself - but if someone knows boxing they're better off than knowing nothing
Parker Kelly
Ive also seen plenty of street fights where balance and coordination go out the window when multiplenpunches are thrown. To be skilled in any martial art will teach you how to maintain balance and composure whether youre kicking or punching
Luis Ortiz
Yeah, if you practice and become good at it then it's crazy effective.
Obviously you need good balance. wtf?
Jackson Wright
>Never seen that go well LARP kicks never work
MT teeps and RHs are proven effective
Henry Williams
Yeah my rear leg front kick could tickle anyone's chin. I connect before my opponent is in striking range and I don't really have to commit. Easy.
Do your self defense Kata for that super duper black belt in your 3rd year of training. >def not a meme guys.
Jason Roberts
I don't know what the difference is between muay thai and boxing, but all I know is that muay thai coaches aren't plentiful. There are more boxing gyms overall across the US than there are muay thai gyms.
I'd never discourage someone from training with a good boxing coach, especially with nothing better available locally.
Christian James
Awesome techniques for a completely compliant opponent.
Isaiah Phillips
People throwing kicks tend to lose their balance very easily. Kicking a human isn't like kicking a bag or a pad and if the opponent manages to absorb the hit and catch your leg (which I've seen a few times), it usually goes to the ground. You'd be better skipping to fake and then throwing punches, elbows, or even knees.
Robert Ward
>You'd be better skipping to fake and then throwing punches, elbows, or even knees. Or you could study BJJ and hope it goes to the ground instead of fearing it.
Liam Stewart
>chink fights Not saying they never work but it's a risky manoeuvre.
Working on this. Is the BJJ meme real? I'm training Greco-Roman style
Luke Wright
HEMA is the most right-wing of martial arts. No, not that joke known as ARMA. Not Battle of Nations, that's just American football without the ball. Not any other name or acronym. Actual HEMA.
Yeah, as was said before, you better be really good at kicking and/or have a solid ground game.
Jeremiah Allen
You haven't seen someone who is good at striking throw kicks in a fight. If me and you are fighting and I threw a kick you wouldn't see it coming. And feints, yeah, that's a part of it.
Gabriel Morris
I do MT too lad. Reckon I'd be ok.
Joshua Phillips
Do you lad? And you wouldn't throw kicks because you fall over if you do?
What's the point in training then?
Caleb Gonzalez
>Autism Krav-maga Could you please elaborate on this? There's this guy in my office who always comes in his Krav-maga hoddy and thinks he's exceptional for doing it. I really don't like him.
Leo Barnes
BJJ is the redpill.
Most fights go to the ground.
Not that striking arts should be neglected, but get a good core understanding of BJJ.
Grayson Bennett
Use them as a secondary tactic outside the MT ring. Fighting in a street fight? Punches and elbows first, easy.
Jordan Fisher
Jews are bad at sports
Parker Morgan
It's meant for drunks at a bar.
They're ridiculously sloppy and due to bad balance, pretty much light as a feather on their feet.
Xavier Brown
It's a martial art literally based on splerging out. That's their technique, their philosophy - to splerg.
Nathan Phillips
my favorite self defense technique is to lay on my back and alternately scoot toward my opponent and raise my legs while yelling "GET IN MY GUARD BRO, SEE WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS!!!"
Michael Ross
>Could you please elaborate on this? Best explained here
You do whatever works. Bottom line is, I'm good at kicking, I use MT in a street fight if I have to and I've dealt with multiple attackers and won, using kicks
>Most fights go to the ground. Yeah, but at that point it's down to who has more friends around rather than who is more skilled. Ground isn't that useful unless you expect a fair-ish fight.
Grayson Thomas
>That's their technique, their philosophy - to splerg Pretty much. It's high-speed LARPing.
James Jenkins
What the hell is he even talking about?
Alexander Richardson
And that's why BJJ teaches you "GTFO" as the best technique for multiple attackers
Don't talk shit about the method if you don't understand it
Oliver Torres
>What the hell is he even talking about? Exactly. Krabby Cake Maga is bullshit.
Levi Jones
If you get away from the fight, you win.
Julian Sanchez
>If you get away from the fight, you win. This.
Survival is winning.
Hunter Smith
First part - that's a really good point.
Jason Nelson
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Connor Bell
>And that's why BJJ teaches you "GTFO" as the best technique for multiple attackers So you need about 5 seconds of BJJ lessons to take most out of it in real-life scenarios? Nice.
Sebastian Ross
of course she is going to win. He's not going to smash her ribs in to escape. then they would be all mad
Kayden Gonzalez
every time i fight a boxer i kick them in the legs and they get fucked up, it isn't that great for street fighting, unless you sucker punch someone from behind.
Julian Cruz
u got that pic when there is only one of him? plz man been looking for ages wanna make a shirt
Brayden Lee
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they agreed to no striking. If you think you can crush ribs with your bodyweight or leverage, you are wrong. Ribs are strong as fuck tbqhwyf.
Alexander Jones
>right wing martial arts
dont make things more difficult than they need to be
Zachary Peterson
Most altrighters are way too fat to practice martial arts (except sumo)
Tyler Miller
>being this ignorant
Just go away unless you have something worthwhile to add to the discussion
Isaac Bell
Just join the military. They teach you how to kill people without remorse.
>dont make things more difficult than they need to be pic related
Benjamin Ward
>getting your head locked between her legs >a loss
David Cox
If this is for a street fight then don't go to ground. You'll just have 50 antifas stopping your face in.
If you want some grappling learn the basics of greco-roman.
Sebastian Ward
What are you implying that you can learn from BJJ that will help you once you're already down on the ground in a street fight? The second you hit the floor you'll have niggers/antifa/whatever kicking the back of your head.
Asher Robinson
What you do is choke an antifa until they die from your back and hide under their limp body, using it as a shield.
Ayden Morales
MMA - it covers all fields isnt about "muhh azian movememes" or "muhh warrior codekek" and actually gets shit done.
Or if you think grabbling is too gay do Muay Thai.
Ethan Hall
I never once implied that one should to go the ground with multiple attackers
BJJ has some pretty great GTFO techniques that can get you running safely - at least the Gracie system addresses this, can't guarantee everyone is going to get that in their curriculum.
Frankly the mentality that any one system has the answer for everything is sort of stupid to begin with
And nothing beats experience.
Justin Howard
What's gay about pulling a guy's face toward your junk as you strangle him with your crotch?
Jayden Gutierrez
Only a Mae Geri (frontal kick), a round about always ends badly, better yet start running if there are more than one, which antifa always does.
You should learn to fight as group, but there are no lessons giving you that. So you need to improvise a lot then.
Asher Hughes
>BJJ has some pretty great GTFO techniques that can get you running safely >GTFO techniques Such as what? I'm legit curious. I don't see how anything could top not engaging and just running away.
Hudson Perez
>tfw no grappling partner to spoo... work out with
Robert Hill
Going to the ground is a massive mistake in a group, you need all your limbs for control and any of their friends can run up and kick you wherever you're vulnerable. Stay on your feet if you want to stay alive
Nathaniel Diaz
It's really cute when new guys try to keep their dick away from my butthole and i have to pull them in with my legs to fully lock my guard.
see :
Blake Young
>I don't see how anything could top not engaging and just running away
BJJ doesn't either - but you're not always going to be aware that an attack is happening before it happens
So they rehearse surprise attack scenarios, distance management from the point that someone has grabbed you from behind or has a hold of your arm, sucker punches you, etc.
That's the scary aspect of multiple attacker scenarios - the possibility of initiation scenarios is exponentially higher
Benjamin Davis
if they grab you by the front of the shirt for example, or go for a rear naked choke hold, there are simple defense techniques that put them on the ground and you're able to run. Its not to stop you from engaging, its when someone has jumped you and you need a way to get out before they kick your face in.
Colton Myers
Your ribs are vulnerable from both sides in that position, as are your knees since you'll have them in a around their waist to keep hold What you should really do is snap their neck while they're still standing or gauge their eyes out
Levi Hughes
>bongistanian
bin those fists lad
Connor Gomez
>wasting your time with this shit when you can just buy a gun
Aaron Long
>pretend we're way tougher than we are. Fuck off poser
>be me >eternally surprised the average athletic person's balance and flexibility is actually pretty shit
Ryan Rodriguez
Anyone got redpills on Karate vs Muay Thai? I've got a brown belt in karate but I'm not sure how it stacks up to muay thai.
Zachary Anderson
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Tyler Johnson
>snap their neck good luck with that. It seems like you have a hollywood understanding of physiology. The ribcage is MUCH stronger from the side than from the front, and you are not going to like what happens to you if you start grabbing at legs while in guard with someone who has 4-6 months of BJJ training; you will end up on your back, pinned under someone who now has their choice of either choking you, breaking your arm/shoulder/wrist/ankle/knee, or just holding you there until you start crying from frustration while they laugh in your face and spit in your eyes.
This is not an exaggeration.
Benjamin Hernandez
A MT fighter would try to brutalise you with leg kicks and generally stronger kicks. Karate I guess would mean you'd try to counter strike.
MT is probably better for beginners. But a brown belt is a brown belt isn't it?
Wyatt Sanders
Depends what your reaction is when you get cracked in the face.
Jose Peterson
>chink fighting Fuck off chang
Nolan Green
literally Okinawan Karate
most important thing I leaned was Sanchin
also fought a couple times in the SCA, learned how to into shield wall and formation discipline
Caleb Phillips
>krav maga >Jew fighting No. That's worse than those autists who buy Jew guns like galil and tavor
Jayden Perez
This guy gets it. No matter body type/size/strength/whatever, the guy who understands BJJ will always win against the person who doesn't. BJJ is specifically designed with the smaller guy winning in mind.
Against an opponent trying to kick me, and being good at it, I would probably close the distance and not allow them the room they need to kick, following up with punches or getting very close and going for a trip or a throw. What's the muay thai 'counter' to that?
Benjamin Wright
Oh, that's better, then, and those could indeed be useful. But still, I'd wager that by that point someone has you in a choke hold you're already circled and fucked anyway. Distance management/situational awareness would be the most valuable things in a street fight scenario, imho.
Camden Stewart
>No matter body type/size/strength/whatever, the guy who understands BJJ will always win against the person who doesn't.
AUTISM U T I S M
Christopher Fisher
>Situational awareness and distance management would be the most valuable things in a street fight
It is, but if you get jumped its good to have backups 1: read the rest of the post 2: 1 month in BJJ is not "understanding bjj", I mean 6 months to a year. 3: not an argument
Jace Brown
Go to a BJJ gym (most offer first class or week free), I PROMISE you will get fucked up by people much smaller than you.