>They won't vote to stop their kids being raped, but they WILL vote for the Milkman - Lib Dems score landslide council victory in Rotherham, increasing their vote share by over 50% libdems.org.uk/stunning_lib_dem_victory_in_labour_heartland
Don't know why the resolution isn't as high as usual
Xavier Rodriguez
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Luke Brooks
What newspaper is that?
Gavin Kelly
>Antifa will never come and fight you and your football firm mates
That is the fight everyone wants to see, why don't ANITFA do it?
If Soros died Vince McMahon was in charge of ANTIFA you know he'd be booking that.
Cooper Gutierrez
Blairposting is eternal
Tyler Baker
>That is the fight everyone wants to see, why don't ANITFA do it? Because they are cowards.
Benjamin Taylor
WHY *COUPS DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRIME MINISTER FOR TRYING TO NATIONALISE OIL* DOES *PAYS THE CIA TO HELP SAVAK TORTURE PEOPLE8 IRAN *REFUSES TO RETURN THE SHAH FOR TRIAL* HATE *ARMS IRAQ IN A WAR OF CONQUEST* US *SHOOTS DOWN CIVILIAN AIRLINER* SO *GEARS UP FOR WAR* ?
Luis Price
>PEOPLE8 Bet the fucking Iranians did this.
Justin Lewis
I met my dad's local AM today, lads.
She was alright as a person, but sadly a Labour AM, and a bit of a shit politician. Told her that I like Trump and that I don't think that the Tories are right wing enough, and then she had a moan about Corbyn.
Daniel Diaz
True say
They want to pretend like a firm though why not get into some action
Brayden Thomas
I was going to make some sort of witty greentext about Trump being touted as the anti-war candidate but claiming that Iran is the most terrorist-aiding country in the world is just plain sickening
The pendulum of antisemitism on Sup Forums is going to knock seven bells of shit out of /r/thedonald Zionist babies when the penny drops on this
Is a Hunger Games brit/pol/ user edition out of the question?
Zachary Allen
>>They won't vote to stop their kids being raped, but they WILL vote for the Milkman - Lib Dems score landslide council victory in Rotherham, increasing their vote share by over 50%
Aren't Muslims the majority?
Oliver Sanchez
Can't set one tonight myself
Absolutely not, they're only something like 5% in Rotherham
Easton Cook
Would like to see one
Noah James
That's the scary thing, I don't think that the proportion of people who are muslim on Rotherham is only about the national average, and yet they still exerted an amount of force necessary to stop people speaking out about child sexual exploitation.
Aiden Russell
*I think that
Kayden Hill
Essentially, although the title of Mr. Callaghan's memoirs - "time and chance" - also had a big role. Their oil embargo came at the worst possible time, and it greatly empowered capital markets in the west because they had lots of dollars from the oil wealth - and even more thanks to jacking up prices. At the same time, Breton Woods had already collapsed in 1971 (and collapse was inevitable since 1948 when it started, because you simply can't use a national currency as an international unit of account without ruining someone's day. What this means for our de-facto USD economy has yet to be seen.) so they can't take all the blame.
The Mayfair Set is a pretty nice introduction to it, and it interviews Dennis Healey towards the end of the first episode: youtube.com/watch?v=234H8X1-JiA Also has fun stories as to why Saudi Arabia has a fuckton of British made weapons. ("And they weren't bribes, they were commissions! A cut of the deal!")
What if Brit/pol/ really has been arrested and we're only being kept around because we're useful idiots
Dominic Ramirez
>"The trouble was not, as we had always thought, with the bankers but with the big international companies who operated dispassionately in any country and had no national loyalties. It was almost impossible to curb their operations: if they were denied forward cover here, they merely instructed their agents in another country to get it for them." James Callaghan, Quoted in Barbara Castle's published diaries 1964-70.
One wonders if this is evidence that bankers were successfully subdued by Breton Woods, or just an error or contextual remark. Still, right on the mark on companies.
> "The serious and widespread industrial dislocation caused by the strikes of January 1979, short-lived though they were, sent the government's fortunes cascading downhill. Our loss of authority in one field leading to misfortune in others just as an avalanche, gathering speed sweeps all before it." Reminder that the winter of discontent was largely a press meme - though naturally a PR blunder. If he'd somehow rebounded, we'd have forgotten it like we did Blair and the petrol strikers.
>"This is like 1945 - but in space." (On Labour's general election victory in 1997.) Err... everybody makes mistakes... [uneasy laughter and copious sweat] although in terms of scope in seat numbers, he's not wrong.
They actually had him on the BBC Election 97 broadcast (well, the VHS tape version anyway - yes, they actually made one.) He said he'd only give Blair one bit of advice: Live in Number 11 downing street and give Gordon Number 10. youtu.be/ouz0DVOE1go?t=1h5m2s
Daniel Foster
Trying to infiltrate antifa lads. Let me know of any tips
Matthew James
>but with the big international companies who operated dispassionately in any country and had no national loyalties. It was almost impossible to curb their operations: if they were denied forward cover here, they merely instructed their agents in another country to get it for them
Silence this man!
Logan Flores
There is a repeat of Sir Ivan Rodgers testimony to Brexit Preparations Commitee on BBC Parliament. If anybody is interested, it's worth a watch.
Brody Myers
declare your undying hatred for the fascist torries and nazi ukippers and wish endless suffering upon Trump and Farage.
Constantly cry about how Bernie Sanders would have won the presidential election and how everyone is against Corbyn so if he loses it wont be his fault but actually the worlds.
Henry Wood
>This is like 1945 - but in space Ah yeah, there it is, quote from election night. We'll let him off, then. [sweats like Tony Blair in the vicinity of The Hague]
Any particular purpose?
Your wish is our command.
Carson Baker
oh yh I roughly know the lingo but Im trying get into one of their black bloc pro violence groups
>Majorism isn't working >Ideology later retconned to "Blajorism"
Cameron Howard
It's not difficult because it's not one solid organisation, it's simply many disorganised groups and gangs operating under the same name and banner.
You could create your own branch of AntiFa by simply creating a blogspot page for "[your town] Anti-Fascists". All you'd have to do is write far-left nonsense every month or so and occasionally organise some punk event in a local left-wing bar.
Austin Phillips
Very self righteous. They think they are completely justified in their actions. very smug about it too I imagine. for them anyone who disagrees is an enemy whom they feel no empathy or compassion for.
Zachary Powell
If there's already one in your town or local area all you'd have to do is check their website or blog or wherever every now and again and then show up to some punk events they hold. Through that you can just talk to them there and get initiated through that.
It's all really not worth it though.
Carson Anderson
What do you do once you have infiltrated it?
Mason Thompson
>remember that David Shayler exists >decide to do a quick search to see what happened to him and what he is up to >oh well
Lincoln Morris
>"Cardiff Anarchists (antifa) now recruiting. We are an equal opportunities employer. Previous experience not essential."
hmmm.
Caleb Reed
independent.co.uk/news/uk/snp-leader-condemns-substitute-tory-blair-1450678.html > ALEX SALMOND, leader of the Scottish National Party, yesterday described Tony Blair as a 'substitute Tory', signalling his intention to step up nationalist condemnation of the Labour leader. >Addressing delegates at the SNP's annual conference in Inverness, Mr Salmond said Mr Blair was 'a southern bubble, floating along on hot air, sound bites and photo-opportunities'. Labour's new leader had taken the party 'that extra mile into Tory territory', abandoning cherished socialist principles in a desperate attempt to win power. >Mr Salmond said: 'There is no question so difficult that it cannot be dodged by new-look Labour. What's the rate of the minimum wage? Don't know. Do you support the railwaymen? Won't say. What's the policy on Ireland? I agree with John Major . . . >He added: 'Commentators say that the Tories and Labour have merged in the middle into Blajorism but that is far too kind to Labour. Blair is adrift in a sea of fudge. Even Bob Mclennan (the Liberal Democrat president) thinks he's too moderate. There is nothing to choose between Toryism and Tonyism. Scotland does not need a substitute for London Tory rule. We demand an alternative.' Would it be too risky to say I've always sort of liked Salmond? His career trajectory is a charming story of a complacent party getting BTFO by people who genuinely tried, and before Brexit, Scotland leaving seemed like the main route to making politics interesting. Ironically the part of the UK Blair feared would do the most to upset his project wound up becoming one of it's last real holdouts. (The reason Scotland has PR at all is to ensure the Lib-Dems moderate the Labour party, in their permanent coalition governm--FUCK)
Sturgeon by comparison is dull and managerial. Salmond manages to be amusing.
Reading about Blair before he took power is always a fascinating experience.
Aiden Barnes
What would the UK be like if he hadn't died? And did Blair kill him?
Joseph Cruz
Salmond is infinitely more likeable than Sturgeon.
Julian Reyes
How much do they pay? And for what?
Wyatt Jackson
Many shekels
Nolan Thomas
Hellllooooooooo
Josiah Parker
Yes
Angel Reyes
GET OFF THE FUCKIN' INTERNET
Zachary Hughes
It's always something with a bit of alternate history wank, but my guess for tonight is as follows: >North of England and Scotland get more investment. >Scottish devolution gets more attention, as Smith genuinely cared about it instead of just going "But goooooordon, it's in the maaaaaanifesto." >Millennium dome is quietly shelved >No Iraq War >No Tuition Fees and no hike. >EU still sees immigration rise due to European integration agreed to by Major, but probably more tepid enthusiasm for outright third-world immigration, since there's no cultural project at play. Joining the Euro is never even contemplated. >Turnout in the 2001 election is in the high 60%s (it was something like 58% under Blair) and people are less disillusioned with politics in general, since Labour still have a distinct identity. >Higher spending immediately on taking office, as the political stunt of sticking to Tory spending plans for 2 years is ditched. Also, PFI would likely be used less to mask debt off balance sheet. >Labour has a very small chance of losing 2005, but if it does so could have won 2010 or 2015. >No post-9/11 draconian anti-terror laws. >No 7/7 attacks >Railways completely renationalised >Top rate of income tax increased before 2008 crisis. >Greater appreciation of Britain's Christian heritage. He couldn't turn back a global tide to neoliberalism, but the ship would've sailed smoother and have a good stock of booze to keep us going.
I don't think Blair killed him, but while cross-referencing some things I found this nightmarish piece: telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/7976017/Tony-Blair-predicted-John-Smiths-early-death.html >Mr Blair woke his wife, Cherie, one morning and told her: “If John dies, I will be leader, not Gordon. And somehow, I think this will happen. I just think it will.” >Mr Smith had suffered a previous serious heart attack in 1988 and Mr Blair argued this was thanks to his lifestyle and, in particular, his heavy drinking.
Robert Nguyen
Kek
Brayden Lewis
>Mr Blair woke his wife, Cherie, one morning and told her: “If John dies, I will be leader, not Gordon. And somehow, I think this will happen. I just think it will.”
I need no other evidence. He fucking did it.
Nolan Perez
Reminder that Nigel Farage's mother does nude calendar shoots
Lucas Evans
Had a shit night on the lash with Meme Merchant lads. Can't even hold his drink. In other news, what should happen to the NHS guys? From my perspective it seems to be stagnating and becoming more inefficient by the day. Patients and doctors alike seemed to be pissed off and all I've seen in normie venues are vague "save muh NHS" slogans. Was it all just a big mistake from its conception? Might need to reform it for Meme Merchants liver if he ever learns how to drink properly.
Are some mildly interesting hypotheticals, though I doubt all of them are made in good faith. (John McTernan, for example, is an arch-Blairite who overstates his modernizing credentials, who couldn't predict that Tuesday follows Monday.) Others are influenced by Blairism in more subtle ways, understating his probability of success. Though it must be said that, for a variety of reasons, it's true that he couldn't cling to power in as slimey a way as Blair - it's plausible, as I say, they'd lose 2005 - but better 2 elections where you improve the country and have a party that can win again than 3 where you destroy the country and the party forever.
I must be sure to state though, that I believe he was genuinely a good man - he had plenty of virtue beyond "he's not Blair" - Gordon wasn't Blair, but I don't spend half as much time hypothesizing as to what'd have happened under a Brown premiership circa 97.
Brown definitely had the look. Actually, I'd say 97 Brown looked more PM material than Blair.
>And here's the Prime Minister with his Chancellor - the youngest man to hold the office in history - coming to you live.
>Shayler has since told newspapers that his transvestite 'alter ego' is called 'Delores Kane'
Easton Carter
Me on the right.
Gabriel Rogers
The NHS needs to be left the fuck alone. Can't find the chart right now, but we spend 8.4% of GDP on health versus 10.1 for the EU average. The problem is Major/Blair/Cameron reforms that have put in layers of utter shit with the idea it'll make things more efficient.
>Hey will we ask doctors how to run a hospital? >Fucken lol no just put in an internal market and set targets dude surely that will work lmao!
The present ideology seems to be to invest as much as possible in administration while cutting frontline services, at least in the NHS (or the Department for Health or whatever anyway) and DWP.
Don't ever buy into the meme that we need to scrap the NHS. It's a shibboleth at this point for Lolbertarian garbagemen. People may be wrong to worship it in a cultlike fashion, but that doesn't mean they're wrong to keep it.
HE'S GONNA SCRAP THE NHS AND THAT LADY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET HER FUCKING TEETH FIXED
David Cruz
>Shayler has said he is committed to destroying what he calls the "Zionist empire"
He kept some sense at least, eh?
Josiah Brooks
house is whiter than america
Matthew Martin
Just watch it. Very upsetting to see him in such a state, I wonder if they did something to him.
Ethan Jenkins
I didn't mention race
Ian Hernandez
You woulden't actually take away her NHS care and let her die right? fy
Aaron Ramirez
>Wanting to spend 10.1% of GDP on the NHS
Colton Fisher
forgot pic
Alexander Turner
I never said such (I'm not keen on % GDP measurements as targets - the same goes for military spending too.), it's just worthwhile to remember that it is "underfunded" (or, depending on your parlance, "efficient") relative to the systems of comparable countries.
Jacob Gutierrez
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Bentley Fisher
nottspolitics.org/2014/05/12/what-if-john-smith-had-lived/ >He had his fair share of failings. He wasn’t a modern politician in the sense of understanding that political messages need repeating over and over again if they are to hit home with an apathetic voting public. In fact, he often used to say to his advisers: ‘I given that speech once. Why do I need to do it again?’ The Scottish Advocate (barrister) in him was so used to returning case notes at the end of criminal trials in Edinburgh, that as a politician he always felt that he should move onto the next challenge. >Failings
>Smith’s other main failing is that he tended to look down on the ‘dark arts’ of politics. Notably, Peter Mandelson – the arch proponent of ‘spin’ under both Neil Kinnock and Tony Blair – was cast into the outer darkness under Smith. Since Smith’s death, we’ve all learned to love Peter, or at least the importance of having a professionally-minded person with the level of nous of Peter in charge of Labour’s political campaigning. >we’ve all learned to love Peter
>Would Labour have really governed for 13 continuous years as they did under Tony Blair? Or would the Labour party have succumbed early on to its usual failings of economic incompetence and political disunity as the Tories bounced back? >usual failings of economic incompetence
Fuck me that's an overdose of pure unadulterated ideology. ( youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8ibrfXvpQ *) Think I'm going to have to lie down.
*I don't follow too closely with the whole analysis thing, but ideology is a pretty intuitive concept, and it's a useful term, even if Zizek is a proper commie. (Albeit one sympathetic to anti-immigration views.)
Hunter Turner
A reminder that we don't live in a democracy.
Evan Russell
You make a good case senpai. Everyone I know who lives stateside for example needs to go through a nightmare of financial burdens and unreliability. Makes one more grateful for the NHS in general despite never having had my life depending on it. What do you think of the moral arguments regarding drunks and smokers, not to mention the obese. Even if they do make a small portion, such an inflated institution would save millions of taxpayer money by perhaps charging for a "non-deserving sick". Pretty archaic terminology has to be used but those who rant on about the NHS always seem to bring up that point.
Lucas Sanders
The US is better tbqh
Luke James
What is it with the left's pretend obsession with democracy?
Jonathan Garcia
Better at what?
Oliver Howard
I seem to notice the media is cancerous with the "democracy" subject. Left wing media will only publish "muh deficit" articles when things happen that they don't like, such as Brexit. Vice versa to the right too. You'll rarely find anyone who can have a proper discussion about the effectiveness of democracy for the sole purpose of principle in the media rather than to simply cry over a result they don't like.
