Trump's attempt to reinstate travel ban fails in Appeals Court
REEEEEEEEEE HAPPENING
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Jackson Flores
BLO-BLO-BLOWN THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK OOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
Drumpfy's forever licking their wounds
Landon Walker
Accuse the judge as a rapist from multiple women. Controversy will end his career.
Camden Edwards
The classic move, works everytime
Isaiah Thompson
Don't even need to, dude comes from the ninth circuit 80% of their appealed cases get overturned and they have the highest traffic through their circuit.
In all likelihood it'll go before the Supreme Court and get overturned in a few days (as it is very clearly stated as a Presidential power, even if it were to be an actual Muslim ban)
Adrian Walker
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(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
>Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
He's going to win, it's simple law. Judges are just playing politics.
Juan Cook
So you believe Trump can do whatever he wants based on that? :^)
David Foster
He can ban entry to whoever he wants, yes.
Kevin Thomas
Those Judges are either
A. Paid by someone to do this
B. Quid pro quo from the party. A hook up when they regain control.
Every politician going against Trump keep an eye on the next few years and see if they rise up.
Jack Martin
trump lost me when he didn't ban saudi arabia
Jack Phillips
So he can say that anyone with a specific religion is no longer in despite that being completely unconstitutional?
Cooper Adams
>not enforcing an executive order put in place by the president that follows all laws
this is literal fucking treason, these cunts need to be hung.
you're not covered by the constitution if you're not a citizen, and the US government does not need to let you into the country to begin with.
also notice that the ban isn't banning religions, it's banning people from certain countries. this has already been done by obama to iran, and to other countries by countless presidents. remember cuba?
Ethan Thomas
Why can't he? It's the law and he's is abiding by it.
Samuel Thomas
Freedom of Religion still exists. The ones here already can practice it here, the ones who arent can go somewhere else.
Christian Clark
How exactly would it be unconstitutional?
Xavier Allen
Non-citizens outside of our borders have precisely zero rights guaranteed by our constitution.
Cameron Stewart
I'm sick of this liberal talking point. Show me exactly where in the Constitution it says that's unconstitutional?
What the Constitution says this:
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
1) This does not establish a state religion.
2) This does not prohibit the free exercise of religion, either (these mudslimes are free to be mudslimes, they're just not free to come here).
Stop allowing the left to bastardize our Constitution to use as a weapon to pursue their multicult agenda.
Charles Green
Good. It is becoming evident he is just another Wall Street lapdog.
Jackson Morales
Its just a shill with no idea how Government or Laws work. Or its India posting with a proxy.
Aaron Reed
Best news I heard all week
Hudson Nguyen
Countries are not religions...?
Jeremiah Nelson
Trump lost me when he banned Iran instead of saudi arabia
William Miller
>do whatever he wants
....
>Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens ... he may by proclamation ... and for such period as he shall deem necessary ... suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants
Are you fucking retarded m8?
Sebastian Robinson
Checks and balances dude.
Oh dear, drumpfy's are getting irate that Washington State is licking their tears.
Connor Bennett
If it goes to the supreme court it'll be 4-4 and the judges ruling will be upheld.
Michael Bennett
>ctrl+f: ISLAM
>0 result
>ctrl+f: MUSLIM
>0 result
Nicholas Martinez
Everyone will want a swipe at, or ride the coat-tails of a person making huge wakes in an environment.
Cameron Lewis
He can do anything he wants within the limitations placed upon the executive branch. I.E. Ban immigration from any country he feels like for any reason, as set out by precedence and law.
Isaac Diaz
The constitution applies to American citizens. Not immigrants or illegal aliens.
Go back to fucking high school history CTR.
Mason Stewart
You also don't know what trump knows, mountain Hans
Jose Lewis
Saudi Arabia is an ally. Not as simple to do that
Elijah Gonzalez
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED DRUMPF!!
AWWWW WHATS THE MATTER DRUMPFY ARE YOU GONNA CRY?
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ITS NOT FAIR
That's the way the system works, Drumpfy, you lost accept it :-)
Xavier Robinson
The US has been beefing with Iran for years. I think our last beef was when they captured a small navy boat, siezed their weapons and crew.
Aaron Murphy
I was saying in general see. He said "he can ban whoever he wants" I asked does that include religion.
I wasn't specifying anything specific.
Or are you too busy fucking your cousin to figure this one out?
Brody Thomas
I'd find that very hard to believe.
Adrian Sanchez
Trump was elected with a mandate to stamp out corruption in the system. It's not how it'll work for much longer seppo.
Austin Morris
4 liberal judges and 4 conservatives. It'll happen.
Mason Long
Trump selected the states he did because those states provide our State Department with insufficient background information on visa applicants. If a nation state is not going to provide us with adequate information in order for us to run meaningful and effective background checks on applicants, then those nation states lose the privilege to come here.
Noah Morgan
>that being completely unconstitutional?
how fucking ignorant are you?
Christian Rivera
>thats the way the system works
>you lost
Wow, so much irony. But you know, 3MILLION! Right?
Grayson Peterson
He can ban any group from entering the US, even religious groups. However this ban would not conflict with the freedom of Religion part of the constitution as it is in no way forbidding the practice of the religion.
Isaiah Baker
>Telling me to go back to school
>Not immigrants or illegal aliens
>"The Bill of Rights does not grant foreigners the right to enter the United States, but once here, immigrants are entitled to certain broad constitutional protections. Due Process -- the right to be treated fairly, whether in a deportation hearing or a criminal court proceeding -- applies to every person within U.S. borders. And Equal Protection prohibits discrimination based on race or national origin. An alien's rights to free speech and religious freedom are protected under the First Amendment. The Refugee Act of 1980 gives certain aliens the right to political asylum in the U.S."
-- from The American Civil Liberties Union website
Maybe you should go back the fuck to school drumpfy. Or are you too busy shooting guns into the air while you fuck your dog?
Christopher Sanchez
Who knows. The fact is he didn't ban Islam/Muslims which is the whole reason you and the judge think is the case but I proved you wrong.
Read his full EO text from the source not off fake news.
Brayden Sanders
Ah thanks.
Well we'll see what the courts say on this ban.
This will be an interesting week for sure.
>proved me wrong
You didn't prove shit. Only the courts can.
Parker Allen
>4 liberal judges
Who will be utterly shagged if they misinterpret a very, very explicit Presidential power.
Daniel Rogers
Shouldn't you be asking Mr. Mahmood Sair-al Muhammad if he's done culturally enriching your wife, so you can clean him off with your tongue?
Nicholas Hernandez
>ninth circuit
I'm a bong and when I worked stateside it was known as the ninth circus court
They do this red shit all the time?
Kayden Flores
Bentley Nguyen
They could be if Congress chooses to pursue it.
Jaxson Bennett
It's either another, massive trainwreck for the Lefties or finally Trump will be BTFO. Either way it'll be amusing.
John Robinson
But...they aren't there yet. Once they're on American soil that applies. Why aren't you reading the very stuff you copy and paste?
Hunter Rodriguez
no, fuck you. this is treason.
Kayden Mitchell
yup THIS will be the time trump will finally be stumped. I feel it.
Samuel Roberts
Only circuit worse than them is the Federal one (83%). I think Arizona is even trying to leave the 9th circuit as it's so shit.
Mason Long
> your ally is someone who flies planes into your skyscrapers
What did Shlomo mean by this?
Logan Sanchez
They interpreted the 14th amendment to mean "anchor babies are U.S. citizens."
Liberal justices shit all over the constitution on a daily basis.
Brody Clark
Wouldn't matter. Supreme court justice is a lifetime position. Congress would not impeach 4 justices.
Ian Hill
An interesting read.
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You should bet your life savings on it.
Jeremiah James
>Leftists think they have Trump
>Every time against all odds Trump gets there in the end
I swear to God...is Trump trying to prolong salt production or something?
>His pick for supreme gets in
>It goes to the supreme
>Gets reinstated by the supreme
Reopening wounds
I can feel hes getting 8 years.
>Applying the constitutional rights to aliens
This bullshit can't wash can it?
Luke Long
They just refused to grant the immodiate stay, kinda dumb but, it will almost certaintly be upheld
John Sullivan
oil relationship
Juan Cook
>but once here
confirmed retarded
Ethan Thomas
>But...they aren't there yet.
You didn't specify location, you said immigrants or aliens.
I'm an immigrant and I guarantee you very much that the Bill of Rights that the forefathers laid down very much apply to me.
Maybe you should drink less swill and fuck less pigs and you can wrap your head around that.
>Treason
>BUT MUH CHEX AND BARENCES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Having to stoop so low to compare Trump to Potter
wtf lol
Austin Morris
Your proxy is showing dude
Kevin Miller
>Due Process
literally just "Alright Paco, here's some water, here's a piece of bread with some butter on it, you're going through the wall in 2 hours. Don't crack your skull against the cell bars."
>Equal Protection
literally just "if you're going to bash people against walls, don't say you're doing it because they're niggers or mexicans"
>free speech and religious freedom
Paco has the right to call the US a shitty country, you have the right to call Paco a cunt, if Paco starts making threats or calls to action he gets a gag shoved 8 inches down his throat. Paco has the right to pray, the US is not required to give him any material to pray with beyond maybe a copy of his religious scripture.
>Refugee Act
only applies if the refugee is in IMMEDIATE danger of IMMINENT death if he goes back, and this does not give him free reign to run across the country, it gives the US the legal justification to keep him safe until he can be returned to a place better for him. this is more broadly known as political asylum, and if someone like Julian Assange can't get it, i doubt your average mexican will be able to get it.
only applies once you're a permanent resident or citizen.
Tyler Edwards
Ginsburg might have to recuse herself.
Jayden Green
They have the legal ability to just say no at appeals level, legally they can just ask the supreme court to decide it and feign ignorance.
Christopher King
Andrew Sanders
Sadly the 14th Amendment is very clear on the issue, it's not a problem with the interpretation but by the amendment being retarded.
They could if it's for such a gross misinterpretation of the law and would allow them to stack all errant Judges with their own picks. Especially, as you say, the position is until death or impeachment.
Jayden Perez
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Samuel Perez
Please trump fans, don't do it.
Justin Morgan
>only applies to permanent resident or citizen
Sweet so I can find any illegal Mexican and make him my slave?
Actually you're wrong on that count caselaw.findlaw.com
As interpreted by the law, the 14th amendment also allows the bill of rights to apply to illegals as well.
Elijah Scott
You were not an American before being naturalised
>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the PRIVILEGES or immunities of citizens of the United States
>subject to the jurisdiction thereof
>Mexicans are subject to jurisdiction of the USA
The constitution enshrines privilege. Git triggerd
Juan Brooks
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Michael Green
>SA flies into skyscrapers
>Austria was governor of California for years
Jose Bailey
>In the ultimate outcome of these decisions, memories of Super Bowls past will prove prescient: Like the Patriots, Boston will best Seattle once again
KEK WILLS IT
Caleb Murphy
that doesn't mean shit, if you're detained by the state most of your rights are suspended to begin with. you only have limited protections while you're in the US, and those protections only make sure that you don't get murdered or treated unfairly. you're still getting deported unless you can explain why you should be exempt (again, political asylum is about it).
Liam Scott
Anyone notice how the left are so utterly fucked by people power that they have to resort to legal wrangling? First Brexit now this.
Camden Moore
Alright this is going over all your guys head apparently cause you're either not of this country but pretend you are, or Trump shills trying to proxy. Whatever
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There you go, references to the legal interpretation of the constitution and how it applies to all people residing in the borders of the United States
I'm speaking in general, not in regards to this Trump business because you are very much correct those refugees are not in this border yet.
But it absolutely means shit that all people within the border of the US have inalienable rights.
At what, cheating?
Ryan Johnson
I can't wait to see all the shitskins chimp out once the Supreme Court upholds this ban
Thomas Cook
I thought I heard someone say legal wrangling
Can I be of assistance? You can bet I'll beat the other guy into the ground. Whats the difference between me and a hooker? A hooker will ease off the guy after hes dead.
Rest assured that by hiring me you will remove even the memory of those people from the face of the earth
Matthew Green
And to summarize:
>And in the case of Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 369 , 6 Sup. Ct. 1064, it was said: 'The fourteenth amendment to the constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens. It says: 'Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.' These provisious are universal in their application to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or nationality; and the equal protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws.'
ALT-RIGHT FUCK TARDS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
Noah Cox
in the specific instance of what's being discussed here, no, it doesn't really mean much. you get asked why you're in the US, you get asked to provide information on why you should be exempt (99.995% of aliens are 'hombre i want free shit hombre' illegals), then you stay around in the US while the state checks you out, makes sure you're not exempt from deportation, then if you're not exempt you get kicked out. maybe you get a bit of food, some protection, legal advice etc while you're in the US, but that's it.
trying to go autist on me as to how the bill of rights applies to aliens isn't going to work m8.
Alexander Perez
Could Soros have planned for this for a cheap multi City riot? N64-D Chess?
Jaxson Cook
>usgovinfo.about.com
>Often described as a "living document,"
You know the constitution also codifies the dismissal of legislation or adherence to legislation which itself is unconstitutional. Any jury member can dismiss a case if it doesn't fit in with their understanding of the constitution.
Living document - top kek
Blake Scott
>within the territorial jurisdiction
Nathan Carter
>burgers retarded enough to elect vapid austrian bodybuilder with cringy catchphrases
america was a mistake tbqh
Austin Davis
I love how you float it from
>only applies once you're a permanent resident or citizen.
to
>well they aren't in the borders yet.
No no
I'm arguing against you saying that the constitution only applies to permanent residents or citizens, but i have aptly demonstrated it applies to everyone within the US borders which is contrary to what you said.
see Yea but it still very much applies which it does in this case so ultimately what you just said has no bearing until ruled upon.
I'm arguing against
>only applies once you're a permanent resident or citizen.
not the Trump EO as I've said that you're right that they are not within the borders
Luke Williams
>Accuses someone of being a shill
>ALT-RIGHT FUCK TARDS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>Has money invested in a pass
Hows that CTR deal working out for you Brock? By all means keep poring money into this Taiwanese Carpooling board
Daniel Powell
It doesn't matter, the stay ruling by the seattle judge isn't based on an interpretation of the 14th amendment. He's basically tried to presumpt legislative power judicially. He's going to get knocked the fuck down once this is sorted.
But he's doing his "job", which is to open the gates for awhile so hillary and co. can bring in some terrorist friends to wreak havoc in the US / stage assassination plots / terrorism.
Nathaniel Wilson
>can't argue any of the points
>Needs to start calling out and changing the topic at hand
topkek.
Luis Gutierrez
>paid CREW/Soros shills losing sleep and wasting 40 million stolen shekels to undermine and sabotage a country
this actually reveals the extent and dictatorial power of Soros's deep state.
the deep state does not rely on the support of the general public who have decided to do away with globalist totalitarianism
the deep state exists on the paid support of hired criminals: the paid protestors, the paid judges, the paid voter fraud, the paid ISIS, the paid Ukrainian revolutions etc.. to further their nefarious, subversive, and genocidal agenda.
the subversive spamming by paid CREW shills that spews disinfo is just one small part of the globalist deep state machine:
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>Since most of us here now regret voting for Trump, how can we fix this and make Hillary the president?
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>How do I change my vote to Hillary Clinton??
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>I unironically regret voting for Trump.
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James Bennett
The constitution isn't for non-citizens/ It's irrelevant to them. When the constitution says not to discriminate by race or religion, that means the government can't have a specific Black tax that all Blacks have to pay, or a Jehovah's Witness tax that they all have to pay, or the government can't make a law stating it's illegal for Muslim Americans to do something, but fine for every other American to do.
Wyatt Foster
>I'm arguing against you saying that the constitution only applies to permanent residents or citizens
So the suggestion is that you have to treat everybody in the world the same.
Like being a friend to everyone this is a world without friends. Or Americans.
Elijah Brown
>american judicial system rules the constitution as unconstitutional
This really should qualify as treason.
Isaac Gonzalez
Yes, it could include religions if they were deemed a risk by the president. It could also include commies, pregnant people, or thalidomide. If they can be deemed a legitimate threat.
Dominic Turner
>that flag
You know I think it was Churchill suggested there was a battle for the soul of world Jewry between the Zionists and Communists. Interesting thought.
Ryder Stewart
I didn't say the EO Thread, I meant in regards to an user saying the constitution only applies to permanent residents or citizens, while it applies to everyone in the border
>BUT THE EO SAY
no fuck off, I'm not going on about the EO, that will be decided in the corps and it'll be upheld or not and I'm fine either way. If you guys want to live in 1984 you go fucking nuts. I can take my Canadian citizenship and go up north whenever I want as you all fuck your cousins to death.
>I can't argue anymore on equal terms with a Liberal so I need to start screaming shill and go reeeeeee.
Your guy's tears are so salty, moist and delicious
Joseph Thomas
That's not what happened.
The 9th circus court said, "No, we're not going to shut this down, we want to hear/see his evidence and reasoning and the other side before making a decision."
They're going to drag it out as much as possible, because the goal is to buy time to get terrorists into the states, it's not about the actual constitutionality/legality of the executive order.