Would Sup Forums support a federal, democratic Europe that properly enforced its external border?
(Without the UK, course)
European Federalism
Camden Walker
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Charles Gray
I could reframe your question as "would Sup Forums approve of Germany winning WW2?" and it would not change any of the relevant facts.
Joshua Ortiz
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Noah Johnson
GIVE
BACK
CLAY
NAPOLEON
Kevin Bennett
No, fuck EU!
Josiah Cooper
I wouldn't because France and Germany would write laws for such Union and we all know they are terrible bureaucratic states
Hunter Hill
Yes, but it would have to be decentralized and rooted in classical liberalism rather than democratic Socialism. Europe has so much potential, but until it is ready to abandon its profane worship of the all-powerful State that potential cannot be realized.
Jacob Lee
No
Caleb Evans
No. Democracy is an illegitimate system.
Elijah Phillips
LEWD
Scandinavia SHITS on Europe
Eli Richardson
plz come to russia
Justin Smith
Dude, don't be too happy you live in Penis Country
Isaac Wood
B-but muh dick
Tyler Gutierrez
Nah. It's better when they're all divided. No reason to band together.
William Morgan
Maybe but don't burn your country to the ground that rude for visitors.
Ayden Bennett
We managed then and we'll manage again!
Xavier Bennett
don't hate the player, hate the game :^)
Chase Myers
sure if we kick out rapefugee, kikes and start to be allied to russia
Ethan James
You probably wouldn't have to spend so much of those 'Ben Franks' defending Europe if it federalised
Andrew Flores
No. Federalism is trash. It was a mistake in America. They sell it to you with the idea that each state will TOTALLY remain mostly sovereign save for a few issues, but then the federal government grows and grows and erodes state sovereignty until it's all but gone. Look at what happened to the states in the USA.
Brody Morales
No fuck the fuck off
Easton Miller
Why do you fucking work with the eternal anglo ?! France just want to be friend with you moy drug
Luis Collins
No, fuk off
Ryan Mitchell
>Look at what happened to the states in the USA.
They do and want that.
Plus shitslam, sandniggers and all of North Africa and Turkey by 2050.
Andrew Adams
you mean during the napoleonic wars? russia was invaded by a massive joint french-german army and held off completely alone, without anglos help, they just scanvaged the remains of the french empire like hyennas after 1812
Brody Smith
hell no, BREXIT
Chase Smith
Like in WW2 ? Russia did all the war and the anglos fight one meme battle and claim all the glory of victory ?
Jose Mitchell
yes, that is exactly why I support bombing their tiny island to kindgom come
we continentals are natural enemies with island people
Easton Nelson
no
John Ross
This, a balance between French Empire and Russia Empire was possible. The reason the napoleonic invasion of Russia was the eternal anglo and their trade blockade, nothing personal.
Grayson Bailey
no, fuck all EU members
free an fair peer to peer deals Trump style without the cancerous macro state
Angel Murphy
I'd rather have a losely bound confederation.
We can pool some resources and help each other out in patroling the Mediterranian or have scientific coopertion, agreements on common standards and so on. But in the end every country must remain completely sovereign. Else it will not work. Europe is too diverse.
Joseph Cox
So much butthurt. Come and try bombing our eternal anglo island. It wont end well for you.
Eli Cruz
It would only work if richer EU states would invest in poorer regions to reduce economic disparities.
Then the EU would have closer living standards everywhere, so the notion of a European citizen would make more sense.
Right now, there is still a lot of economic pressure on poorer states to lift themselves by the bootstrap using their own force. This can only take a lot of time, many decades, and this makes a complete union non-viable now.
We already have a complete union of customs and the four freedoms. That's a huge step from the divided Europe of the 19th century and early 20th.
Make no mistake Europe is stronger inside the EU. Everyone else outside the EU is jelly and want the EU's collapse just because they feel inferior and weaker than our union.
Why do you think the USA is against us having our own army? Because the USA wants to have the monopoly of military power in NATO. Despite what the Trumptard says, everyone with a brain in the USA knows that.
Lucas Rogers
>It would only work if richer EU states would invest in poorer regions to reduce economic disparities.
I'm willing to do that. It's good to be surrounded by functioning non-shitholes. And we can make money with you as well.
>Then the EU would have closer living standards everywhere, so the notion of a European citizen would make more sense.
The "European citizen" is not an economic notion. It's a cultural one.
>by the bootstrap using their own force.
You're getting billions every year. And your folk are allowed to work here and send back remittances.
>That's a huge step from the divided Europe of the 19th century and early 20th.
>Implying a divided Europe is bad.
>Everyone else outside the EU is jelly and want the EU's collapse
The EU has become a piece on the rummage shelve. Neither Switzerland nor Norway or Iceland wants to join anymore. Only poorfags (Ukraine) or countries with a low key political culture (Romania) or countries that are caught next to military powers (Georgia) want to join now.
>USA
Yes, that's obvious geopolitics.
You are still not making an argument why we should give our military (the ultimate sign of sovereignity) in the hands of some deranged bureaucrat in Brussels.