Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=lMk9eF0xDM4
youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4
dankmaymays.com/vodka/kotblini/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-7-stalin/
youtube.com/watch?v=lZj1emEb1-g
youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_1982
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Freedoms capitalists support:
>1) Freedom of speech
>2) Freedom of association
>3) Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
>4) Freedom of religion
>5) Right to bear arms
>6) Right to property

Freedoms communists support:
>1)

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Capitalists claim to uphold these freedoms but do everything they can to destroy them.

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donde vives?

recuerda que les pasa los tuyos
youtube.com/watch?v=lMk9eF0xDM4

National Communism sounds based

The most capitalist nation on Earth upholds these freedoms proudly, with the only people opposing these freedoms being in favor of more socialism. Communism and socialism are inherently authoritarian.

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>>>/leftypoll/
sage you dirty moor

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>the only people opposing these freedoms being in favor of more socialism
I didn't know that the far-right Republicans were socialist.
>socialism is inherently authoritarian
No more so inherently than any other form of government.

Communism is shit

>No more so inherently than any other form of government
because disallowing property is no more intrusive than having speed limits, and baning murder
KYS

>I didn't know that the far-right Republicans were socialist.
They're more socialist than they ought to be, even if they support these freedoms more than the democrats.

>No more so inherently than any other form of government.
Maybe not so much with socialism, but communism is certainly the worst oppressor of these freedoms, and considering how many socialist states have been attempted transition states to communism...

Socialism necessarily doesn't disallow property.

Fuck leftists

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>video of socialists blowing up other socialist monuments

You post the same fucking thread every fucking day

Go away fag.

His little Spanish country has never seen the benefits of capitalism like we have. He forgets that we would've never had anime if it weren't for capitalism.

"Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage"

Says who?
Your associates professor in government?
Did he present it with an ascending linear line where communism followed capitalism?
You don't think that that may have been a retard with an agenda?

>be commie
>starve to death
>blame capitalism
>rinse and repeat

Hi comrade nice to see you one more day

Obligatory:

youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

>Obligatory
>posts a 1 hour 30 minute video
>thinks anybody is going to watch it
>you literally need an hour and thirty minutes to explain how communism makes any sense

Your eyes and ears won't bleed don't worry just watch it in several parts

Remember, my fellow mericans.
A pledge a day keeps the commies away.

A free ride a day, keeps the commie away!

No, you almost never reply, you steal other's memes, and you post a thread like every 6 hours, I'm not watching your video.

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Never forget.

I hereby declare this clay now a anti-communist meme exchange.
Let's create a free market in this thread.

Look at the damage that Allende did to his country

dankmaymays.com/vodka/kotblini/

turn up volume for the full communist experience

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A FUCKING LAWN MOWER MOTOR

He left power in 1990.

Yup, and he left Chile in a far better position than it had ever been before, especially considering all the damage Allende did.

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The only ones that got hurt were the communists. He hurt them before they could hurt others.

Killing communists is only self defense. They promise to kill you, take your stuff, enslave your families under a totalitarian regime, and destroy your culture and religion, you'd have to be insane not to fight them.

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds
Fuck odf

Liberals praise socialism all the time, not to mention their history of being anti-capitalism and anti-Constitution, if they defend the communists actions then they are no better.

>liberals are anticapitalist
No they are pro welfare not socialiam

Cum on communism

If we didn't have excessive regulations, welfare, high taxes, the Federal Reserve, protectionism, and government mandated monopolies screwing up the economy then capitalism would be able to function just fine and bring prosperity the way it is supposed to. Liberals may not be total socialists, but they certainly take every opportunity to sabotage capitalism.

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>everything I don't like is capitalism

do you think its a conspiracy that literally any functioning country has a central bank?

>everything with a fweeee market is capitalism
true.

Communisms opinion on breeding out the white race?

>every war is capitalism
Nice try, commiecuck. Doesn't change the millions starved to death under communism and the fact that your system never worked, still doesn't and never will while capitalist states flourish in wealth.

Liberals aren't socialist at all socialism is when the workers seize the means of production lad they want equal opportunity and welfare
Also are you a bourgeoisie or prol
They were all wars for capital or for resources to make capital

Ancaps are boot lickers who pretend to be rebels. There is no anarcho-capitalism because just because multiple privatized states competing is still a state.

>never worked
explain Rojava

It d-didn't happen lick porkies boots p-plz don't rebel you need us not the other way round

>French exploitation of African Equatorial Rainforest: 800,000 dead
Nu-math? A million people dont live there now. A million people never lived there. And some how the french were killing them at 20k a year? lulz. Maybe if you knew the wizardry of math, capitalism would make sense?

>Rojava
>exists only since 2013
Literally an irrelevant shithole full of shitskins with no relevant industry or value. They will fail just as every other commie system before.

Explain the rest. Also did any of those give the means of production to the workers?...

>ignores the rest
What a true intellectual
Also the only commie there is Lenin stalin and mao had a lot of capitalism. Pol pot was nazbol aka fascism mostly

USA did just fine without a central bank for many years

99% of those examples didn't have free markets. One of them was a disease for goodness sakes, do you think bacteria follows the laws of capitalism?

I'm a capitalist

Rojava isn't communist you moron

>Explain the rest
>ignores the rest

What rest?

>rojava
shitty flash in the pan semi-autonomous region that only exists because syria is in the midst of a civil war. there's also a large ethnic component as well.

don't make them question their facebook infographs, you might encourage them to read something other than their edgy agitation pamphlets.

What is it? 75% of the company are Cooperatives that are networked together to form a voluntary planned economy.

Explain how the rest of the socialist countries killed 60 gorrilion innocents

see pic

Imperialism is motivated by capitalism.

>USA did just fine without a central bank for many years
take in spite of having one
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
check this out and see just how many recessions were due to monetary issues

Communism is stateless, and what about the other 25% of companies?

Which explains why the Soviets were not imperialistic at all, oh wait...

Those are all examples of how and why your system does not work, what's with it?
You can larp as much as you want, but that won't change reality.
>Imperialism is motivated by capitalism
Then explain USSR imperialism.
>inb4 not muh specific version of communism

USSR was socialist not communist
>USSR
>imperialist
In what way?

>Imperialism is motivated by capitalism
lmao made me spit out my drink

They are socialist. The other 25% are coops but they compete on a market. Thens theres some private companies.

I could get behind Communism.

My ex-girlfriend was totally into it and told me about this glorious fantasyland. I sounded warm, comfortable and completely safe at all times. There were puppies, free money, and drinking fountains of rootbeer.

My ex was also fucking psychotic. When she dumped me I remembered that her family came from Poland. Back in the mid-80's To escape the paradise she told me about.

If Communism came to America I'd be perfectly happy to take out some Commies as needed.

If porky wants more profit he has to expand his company. So he gets the state to invade other countries like in Guatemala when they literally put a massive fruit company that enslaved everyone. Read Lenin's book on imperialism.

>In what way?
Everything east of the Iron Curtain

>Thens theres some private companies
Ergo, they can't be communist. Now, they could be some variant of socialism that allows for private property, but I wouldn't know much about that.

It just does not work.

Well then clearly the state is the problem, let's get rid of it and capitalism can do its job properly

thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-7-stalin/

youtube.com/watch?v=lZj1emEb1-g

youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM


"Should the Jew, with the aid of his Marxist creed, triumph over the people of this world, his Crown will be the funeral wreath of mankind, and this planet will once again follow its orbit through ether, without any human life on its surface, as it did millions of years ago" -t Hitler

FUCK OFF COMMIES

Capitalism can't function with out a state. Someone has to protect private property. In "anarcho"-capitalism the state is just privatized.

imperialism is older than the 20th century.

>Read Lenin's book on imperialism.
why don't you try reading an actual history book you tard.

Meanwhile...

>Someone has to protect private property
I'll defend my own property

>In "anarcho"-capitalism the state is just privatized
Then it's not a state, it's a private company.

>Capitalism can't function with out a state. Someone has to protect private property. In "anarcho"-capitalism the state is just privatized.
Yes capitalism can work without a state since everything will be privatized. A privatized "state" also is no state since it doesn't hold any power, the owner does.
Total ancap is shit, though. Everything with "anarcho" or related is trash that should be exterminated, same goes for you anarcho-commie retards.

SAGE

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Aka "Saturnism" or new elite cult, same faggy bullshit

Communism is funny xD

???

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_1982

>did any of them give the means of production to workers?

No and there won't be a single son of a bitch who will, once the elite get a taste of that power they always give into greed.

It would explain why every cocksucker whose ever started a revolution wnded up being a dictator.

Communism has never worked and will never work, some haji living in the desert wasteland isn't really success you stupid pinko