Questions for /leftypol/

Can you explain how words can be seen as violent actions?

Why do you believe that having any sort of right-wing views inevitably leads to concentration camps and genocide?

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>Can you explain how words can be seen as violent actions?

words themselves are not violence but they can be used with violent intentions

>Why do you believe that having any sort of right-wing views inevitably leads to concentration camps and genocide?

I have no problem with moderate right wing politicians. Trump has given me a greater respect for people like McCain and Romney, thats for sure.

>words themselves are not violence

How many of your fellow lefties agree with this statement?

>but they can be used with violent intentions

How do you determine this?

Well words can be used with violent intentions, and some words themselves are designed with the intent to harm.

Stuff like "faggot" "nigger". Those are meant to harm, they are violence.

>calling someone a nigger is violence
Jesus Christ

Here are some violent words for you, I can't wait until we can mass murder you in the streets.

So far the only ones getting beat down are Trump supporters, keep dreaming kiddie.

>Stuff like "faggot" "nigger". Those are meant to harm, they are violence.

Do you believe you have a right to not have your feelings hurt?

If a lefty calls me a "nazi," is that a form of violence?

If I say "build the wall," do you consider those words to be a form of violence?

>If I say "build the wall," do you consider those words to be a form of violence?

Yes, you're trying to inflict psychological harm on undocumented immigrants and their families.

>You're going to do things I don't like in politics

>Therefore I have the right to attack you

Have you ever considered that the intent was to protect my own family? Is it possible that I wish to cause as little harm as possible and don't want my country to become like the countries refugees/migrants are coming from because then everyone will be worse off?

>asking lefty fags to explain anything

>Can you explain how words can be seen as violent actions?

They're not violent actions, but they can carry intent.

Consider that the FBI intercepts a phone call of one guy telling his old friend "I'm going to saw my bitch ex-wife's head off tonight. It's time. She's fuckin' dead." There's also substantial evidence that he actually means it.

Naturally, that guy would get arrested.

Now, a bunch of edgy stormfags are telling eachother, "We're going to start a race war and remove the black race and the jews from the North American continent through blood." That's a statement of intent, and we have every reason to believe that they mean it.

Of course, the shitters who think pro-Trump == genocide are just freaking the fuck out. Many of them are young and have never lost an election before. Oh well.

You're intending to hurt the families of others because you were convinced that the boogeyman was going to get you if you don't. You're naive and only hurting people you don't know.

Wrong

youtube.com/watch?v=UtBBo2_FmC0

Your boys got wrecked, bitch

Of course he hasn't that would require rational thought and maturity

>pushing a guy
>getting wrecked

yeah okay

How do you know my intent? I'm a peaceful person. I don't want anyone to be hurt. I'm willing to admit that there's a chance that I might be wrong about the dangers of unrestricted immigration (although I have yet to see convincing evidence to that effect), but do you really think my sole motivation is to make others to suffer?

By deporting families and stopping families trying to escape 3rd world countries you're literally making other people suffer.

>block roads
>get punched
>cry to the police
Average leftist

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>How many of your fellow lefties agree with this statement?
The New England Dem-voting whites are largely liberals because of economics, tee bee aych. I don't know about California or wherever the fuck you're from, but around here the "calling me he or she rather than xhe is BIGOTED VIOLENCE!" 'lefty' trope doesn't exist and is a strawman. Where I live, we vote Democrat because we know Reagan's economics are shite and will always, always, ALWAYS result in the workers losing quality of life for the benefit of people who simply own assets for a living.

That was a bit of a tangent.

Anyway, to the point: None of the liberals I know IRL think words are violence.

Watch the whole video puss. At 0:16 seconds a Trump supporter knocked out an antifa beta, then he punched the fat hog antifa bitch and got away

Meant for

I believe there would be greater suffering if my country became a 3rd world failed state because of unrestricted immigration. What good would it do for those families to escape one shithole only to arrive at another one?

>cry to the police
that's my favorite part. gets me every time.

your suffering would be far less than that of the families you turn away. You're the one causing greater suffering. I'm sorry but thats just the truth.

They do not sincerely believe that and there is no logic that can demonstrate it. It's a very cynical positioning to enable censorship.

>I'm sorry but thats just the truth.

Why? You haven't presented any evidence to make me believe you.

It's obvious that you're a bleeding heart communist that believes everyone should be suffering so that the whole world is equally shitty. You most likely grew up in an upper middle-class family, maybe even in a gated community and know nothing about suffering. You're trying to make 1st world countries become 3rd world to make up for some inner guilt that you have. Grow up and stop virtue signalling like a 16 year old.

It's self evident, poor families from 3rd world countries are suffering. You are not, denying them access to your prosperity will undoubtedly cause them suffering.

>I believe there would be greater suffering if my country became a 3rd world failed state because of unrestricted immigration.

Are there any documented cases of that ever happening?

(if you say the fall of Rome we'll all laugh and point at you for not having even the slightest fucking understanding of Roman history)


>They do not sincerely believe that
Nor do we insincerely believe it. It's a strawman argument. Leftists are not pro-censorship. Left-wing culture decries many kinds of speech but normally it's along the lines of "please don't say that, you're being an asshole." It's never along the lines of "actually let's make a law against this."

I worry that this is an example of euroshit politics leaking into American discourse. The European center-left actually does censor shit but in America that isn't even a goal, or a talking point.

Nobody said I have to help anyone you pearl-clutching strawman. I will gladly hurt these people I don't know, because fuck 'em.

Oh, and are you just going to ignore the video I posted where some antifa pussy got knocked the fuck out at 0:16?

Typical leftist, runs away from facts when presented to them.

Why exactly is it our problem that their country is in shambles? Why can't they make them great again the same way we're making ours?

>It's never along the lines of "actually let's make a law against this."
>what are hate speech laws?

There are a lot of factors but primarily they don't have access to the same economic benefits from resources and land.

You're what we're fighting against, thanks for illustrating it.

No problem pal. You're next

Again
>I worry that this is an example of euroshit politics leaking into American discourse. The European center-left actually does censor shit but in America that isn't even a goal, or a talking point.

America doesn't have hate speech laws, look it up.

College campus speech rules aren't laws and in fact have about as much legal weight as internet message board rules.

>You're next
for what? you're all talk but no action.

Keep ignoring my posts because you lost so hard, kek

And? You do realize egalitarianism is bullshit right? It's a fucking fantasy. The universe and nature is not equal and it never was.

The comparisons of Trump to Hitler is misguided

His ascension to power is a lot like Hitler. He is accusing ethnic groups of being violent which is out of context. The thing about Hitler and the Nazi's was that people at the time said that it was a phase caused by bad economy. They believe that the other parts of government would keep him in check. Its really not hard to consolidate power, and the route all dictatorial people go through is by nixing the courts. When he negates the courts decisions against him as political is exactly what the Nazi's did in the 1930's. I dont think Trump has any malace towards killing religious or ethnic minorities. I just think he will start overstepping his bounds and then it becomes a slippery slope. FDR overstepped his bounds a lot but Congress knew to stop him, I hope our republican congress does now.

This. This so much. If you believe in egalitarianism, stop posting because you must be 18 years old to post here.

I'm not saying it will ever be equal, but theres no sense in trying to stop people actively trying to improve their lives. I'm not saying we should go make all of south america good. I'm just saying we need to open up for those who want to help us

If you're going to follow the path of nature (i.e. "the shit that would happen without deliberate human intervention") and not bother to impose human will and values upon the cold and uncaring universe, why bother doing fucking ANYTHING at all?

Tough luck? It's not our duty as a nation to provide for them, it's to provide for us. The citizens. There is no actual feasible imperative to help them for any other reason than your feels. Life is cheap, user. They had shit luck. You don't have to make it shitty for us too.

>College campus speech rules aren't laws
Leftists are the ones pushing them though.

The Berkeley riot is a perfect example. You're being dishonest by saying leftists don't want to ban some speech

then admit you were wrong about wanting people hurt, you are literally wanting others to suffer so that you can live in peace. You're not a peaceful person, you're a hateful person.

The moment you ingrates get even slightly intellectually challenged, your thoughts turn to violence. The right is showing its true colours, just before it all comes tumbling down.

>FDR overstepped his bounds a lot but Congress knew to stop him
ahhhh the sweet sound of a shill slipping up

>for those who want to help us
>"they just wanna help us goy"
Here's where you're wrong. Dead fucking wrong.

citation needed

Except it won't help them you idealistic retard. You're not using any sense into actually thinking what will help them. Pouring them by the millions into a different country with a different culture that speaks a different language isn't going to improve their situation. You also rob their home country of their labor force. You haven't thought about actually helping these people for more than five minutes and it shows. It's just petty virtue signalling and the expense of people and nations.

H1B visas import a lot of talent desu familia.

Illegals are usually kinda dumb but most of them are not violent criminals, contrary to right-wing memes.

>calling someone a nigger is violence
>intellectually challenged
Get fucked.

I wasn't the guy who said I was a peaceful person. I'm fine with being a hateful person. Hatred can be selective, but being hateful and being empathic are not incompatible. I'm sympathetic to those around me, in my nation, who were born and continue to live here, because I know them. I live with and beside them. I don't necessarily have to feel this way about outsiders. Some I welcome, because they're like me in other ways (genetically, culturally, etc.). Nobody ever said you have to love or even like anybody.

my bad, you're right.

At least you're open about being hateful.

Even HuffingPaint thinks this is bullshit.

huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-h-1b_us_5890d86ce4b0522c7d3d84af?

>Are there any documented cases of that ever happening?

Sure, when refugees from a conflicting culture enter a country at odds with that culture, violence tends to ensue.

>Kosovo-Albanian refugees in Macedonia
>Kurds in Turkey
>Palestinians in Lebanon

Violence leads to instability, which is not conducive to development. The examples above are not nearly as polarized as Arabic Islamic culture and Western society, however, so the violence will be even more severe in western nations accepting masses of refugees.

words are not violence

Why do they have any claim on my prosperity? If we reduce everyone down to the lowest common denominator in society, are we doing our civilization any service? Which advanced humanity more, the former socialist autocracies or the liberal capitalist republics that outlasted them?

You said you don't want anyone hurt. I explained how you're hurting them.

If you're not a liar, you need to admit you were wrong now.

Not letting them invade your country is not "hurting" them. Stop appealing to emotion. You have no arguments.

Oh? Is that why Right Wing protesters are attacking people in the streets and destroying Starbucks and other stores?

But some comments on an anonymous forum hurt your fee fees. Awwww.

Get the fuck out.

> The moment you ingrates get even slightly intellectually challenged, your thoughts turn to violence. The left is showing its true colours, just before it all comes tumbling down.

ftfy so it makes sense.

This. The level of delusion Leftists are exhibiting here is beyond levels I thought were possible.

I'm pretty sure this 7Yh guy is a troll. Not even antifa is this fucking dumb.

nypost.com/2017/02/03/mma-fighter-my-fists-helped-trump-supporter-when-cops-wouldnt/

When even your own lefty rags begin bragging about people beating up antifa's, you know you're in trouble.

Don't have to explain shit to a faggot NEETzi. If your doughy ass wants to talk some Sup Forumstier shit in public, some black bloc motherfuckers might break your jaw and turn you into a meme. That's more than any explanation you're owed.

> Jake Shields
> Went to a guy's defense

You literally can't make that shit up hhahahha

kek, in your dreams skinny boi

black block are ALWAYS stick-armed pussies who only attack when they outnumber 10:1

>If we reduce everyone down to the lowest common denominator in society
The numbers are in favor of welfare desu. Food stamps are the most efficient economic stimulus.

Also the numbers are in favor of the USA importing young able-bodied laborers - retiring baby boomer crisis, and all that.

NY Post is pretty right wing. Tbh

So you're literally admitting leftists are violent thugs who attack people because they said something they didn't like? Thanks for admitting it.

...

10:1, 20:1, 100:1, doesn't matter. It's not even about some honorable one-on-one combat. It's about loosening some piece of shit's teeth.

>m-muh moral highground
Yeah, good luck claiming that as a nazi. I guess that would explain the heartfelt outpouring of sympathy for Richard "The Human Punching Bag" Spencer. Like I said, not here to debate, just laying out the facts.

>as a nazi
Why are you projecting? You don't know my beliefs, dumbshit. You and Spencer both should drink bleach.

>loosening some teeth

Again, keep dreaming. That hardly ever happens and sometimes you bitches still lose when its 20:1

Believe me, if that shit ever jumps off, Sup Forums will regret falling for the leftists don't own guns meme. And then it's off to gulag.

Identify the gun in my pic

Kek, no one believes you because you're wrong.

>safe space college students toppling the government

versus

>Mad Dog Mattis
>Trump
>The armed forces that love both of them
>All the independent alpha right-wing with all their guns and stored food and farmland

Hahahaha you actually believe you'd win? Haha look another delusional leftist that grew up upper middle-class jerking himself off to the thought of his pussy ass college professors leading a communist revolution.
Keep doubling down, i'm loving this more and more bitch.

>I prefer national socialist/ethnic nationalist/whatever Milo says to get off the hook
lol
:'( Don't be afraid. You can still be tough on the internet.

I'm not a national socialist either. Kill yourself you waste of oxygen.

Refute me then, bitch boi. You have no arguments, only feelings.

Oh, and identify the gun in his pic if you're so good with guns. I bet you can't even do it with google.

> Implying that breaking bones equals to breaking ideologies

You kids really know nothing.

> Acts tough on the internet
> Makes fun of others acting tough on the internet

You're making it way too easy.

Give him a few minutes, he's frantically googling around trying to identify that gun a few posts above to try to prove someone wrong, but coming up short just like his manhood

Remember, user, you're guilty of every death you did not actively try to prevent.

M21. Good luck in a close-quarters urban setting.

Here's the thing: Trump probably won't last through his first term. Everything he's done thus far (that hasn't been blocked by courts) will be overturned without much effort at all.

It's an M1A you stupid shit. You thought I had access to military sniper rifles? Google better next time.

>Good luck in a close-quarters urban setting.

Pic related

Trolling about three other threads right now, you girls have to share.

lol It's not about reforming you. Not one leftist gives a shit about reforming nazis.

You leftist CUNTS dont have guns lol

HAHAHA, half an hour later of googling and you still got it wrong. We haven't used the M21 since the fucking Vietnam war.

It's an M1A. You'll lose any war you try to start.

Also to refute your other point
>Trump will never run for presidency
>Trump will never win the candidacy
>Trump will never win against Hillary
>D-drumpf will never stay true to his promises
>d-d--dd-d--drummpfff will never make it through his first term

That's where you are now. Have fun being wrong yet again, and enjoy the next 4 years. Didn't take me half an hour to figure that shit out, bitch boi.

Hurry up and kick the war off already then. What are you waiting for?