>You're only MGTOW because you are butthurt virgin who can't get laid
Traditionalists (the old right) have only one rebuttal against MGTOWs: "Just find the right woman, you loser".
They don't address any of the issues. Ever. Not a single one. Not the divorce industry, not the anti-man legislation, not the pro-woman welfare state, not the nature of women, not HPV that leads to cancer and other diseases. They only have "Find and marry the perfect unicorn, ignore the legal climate and live happily ever after, you fool".
Already in our grandparents' era this world view was outdated, but now it's outright suicidal. You can't lift and game Marxism away.
And the sad part is, when traditionalists try to shame men with "You MGTOWs will destroy everything", they think there's still something left to be saved. So, not only their solutions but also their assessment of the status quo are delusions.
I agree. A friend of mine spent months in jail on false charges and he still tries to make it work with women. What a retard.
Lucas Cruz
I was married twice, I dated for a few years after my second divorce and it lead me to straight give up dating and relationships all together . The dating climate just isn't friendly anymore, the risks far out way the rewards and we live in a hook up culture.
Daniel Miller
MGTOW is the cuckest thing to ever come out of the manosphere.
Women have the emotional levels of a fucking child. Because of that women barely have a individual will, you can tell a woman what she should like and what she should do.
You are essentially going around saying that you can't control almost anything and anyone, and that things are too hard for you so you won't bother. Those are traits of a weak man.
Advocating for an incel lifestyle with no children and family is so incredibly pathetic I can't even begin to describe.
>There's literally no reason to not be MGTOW.
How about having joy in your life and not being some sheltered loser?
Colton Wilson
They have some valid points. I've been through a shit divorce myself.
Like with feminists though you notice the fucked up vibe they give of "my life sucks, I can't get laid, women aren't loyal because...". It's weakness, learn to play the game, and no that doesn't include trusting women.
Gabriel Allen
I'm not a butt hurt virgin I just think that women have an unrealistic idea of the world
Josiah Adams
MGTOW only applies to civilized Western countries.
It's always countries like Canada/US (see above) and UK, EU, Japan etc. that agree with MGTOW on this board and then some Russian, Serbian or Brazilian user calls everyone a pussy for not manning up. Yeah, I get it, your women are still women and they act like women and you can have a stable marriage with them and you won't get fucked in the ass financially, mentally and legally. Cool. But that's not the case here.
Cameron Ortiz
>Traditionalists (the old right) have only one rebuttal against MGTOWs: "Just find the right woman, you loser".
Zachary Thompson
>MGTOW is the cuckest thing
Because being her provider is alpha.
>You are essentially going around saying that you can't control almost anything and anyone
Good luck controlling the government, the family court system and the divorce industry.
Liam Phillips
>It's always countries like Canada/US (see above) and UK, EU, Japan etc. that agree with MGTOW on this board
OMG ur so right why cant girls just fuck people who just watch and breath around them instead of talking to them and knowing them like real men!?! Ur so right those traditionalists are evil backwards barbarians who piss while STANDING UP.
Jeremiah Ortiz
When they say "find the right woman" they mean "stop being attracted to terrible people and if all the hot people are terrible, I guess you're SOL"
Lucas Walker
this is Sup Forumss only girl ;)
Anthony Jones
Women in the 3rd world are a lot more vicious when men don't know how to handle them. You think relationships are just sitting down yo have a tea party. It's an active struggle you have to figure out off the bat.
Adrian Morales
> "fully-realized MGTOW (there are levels to it) is someone who shuns all relationships with women, short-term, long-term, romantic, and otherwise. He eventually shuns society as a whole." This is kinda gay.
Jackson Hernandez
>When they say "find the right woman" they mean
they mean unicorn.
Landon Turner
She is a former gender mainstreaming officer.
Nevertheless, pic is true.
Jayden Kelly
>Find and marry the perfect unicorn The really stupid part is going out of your way to actively search for a woman.
Ian Anderson
>fully-realized MGTOW (there are levels to it)
And there are. MGTOW is a gliding scale.
Luke Ross
mgtow is nonsense but so is the attempt by people like OP to use it as a way to sweep away any criticism of modern women or the system that benefits them
Matthew Perry
MGOTW is just jews trying to make white people not have children
Oliver Thomas
MGTOW is 3rd wave feminism-tier. You bitch about the same shit just from the opposite end of the spectrum. Women bitch about the patriarchy. MGTOW bitches about pro-women legal system. What's the fucking difference in that? Go your own way and keep enjoying the fetish porn and your flesh-light you beta faggot. You can just come out as gay, no one will judge you. You don't have to go on a tirade about women because you're so uninteresting and boring that women won't fuck you, or that your gay and don't want to admit it.
Juan Stewart
no feminism is trying to make white people not have kids, mgtow is middle finger to government ripping men a new one so women can get half of their shit...
Liam Brown
>mgtow is nonsense
Good, very good.
Julian Young
>MGOTW is just jews trying to make white people not have children
It's vice versa, idiot.
Noah Carter
low lvl bait...
Nathan Butler
>MGTOW is 3rd wave feminism-tier. You bitch about the same shit just from the opposite end of the spectrum.
Leo Cooper
Sup Forums in 2014
>Whites should breed at all costs in order to keep the future from going under >MGTOW and Neets are scum who bring disgrace to whites >Ron Paul is one of the most Truthful Politicians in recent years, Also IT'S HAPPENING >Reddit should fuck off, We do not tolerate newfags from coming on our board >Jews cause nothing but pain and misery to everything they touch, never trust them >Minorities are nothing more then leaches to the Western World, They take our money and our rights away to benefit themselves >Anyone who helps protect whites from dying off is an ally to us >There is some hopeful women out their ready for you to spread your seed and reproduce white children >Criticism on topics that you may disagree with is welcomed
Sup Forums in 2017
>GIVE MUH THE QUICK RUNDOWN? WHO ARE TEH BOGDANOFF BROTHERS :DDDDD >I love Donald Trump and Israel!!!! :3 >I'm proud of being a part of MGTOW and being a neet >Civic Nationalism is the best, Minorities especially HWNDU are extremely based >You like whites? Fuck off Stormfag we don't need you >Based Jews do exist, You're just anti-Semitic for not realizing it >AWOO :3 >There's plenty of whites, They aren't dying out stop saying stuff that's true >Look at this thing I found, Is it redpilled? >Ron Paul? Who gives a fuck >Moonman is fucking overrated >Richard Spencer likes whites? He must be a controlled opposition >FUCK WOMEN ALL OF THEM ARE DEGENERATE BECAUSE I SAY SO! >:( >How dare you criticize God Emperor, You're a CTR Shill
Get out nu-Sup Forums we don't need your lower the white birth rate shit.
Luis Hernandez
2/2
Blake Cooper
this site has taught me to give extra hate to Brazilians. get fucked you pathetic brown loser
Isaiah Allen
If that's all it was it would be fine. It's an excuse to die alone.
Aiden Rodriguez
unironically this
Juan Smith
MGTOW nerd virgins don't want children just like feminists you mongs.
William Campbell
You're trying to move a shadow without moving what casts it.
Would you say that it's the duty and responsibility of a business to remain in a nation which imposes stringent, draconian regulations upon it which thereby cripple it?
No, because you would understand the incentive structures of business. You would understand why the business wants to to outsource and move itself to a less regulated place, where it can be more productive and profitable. You would say that the stringently regulated nation should change and become a better place to do business.
It's the same way with men and women in the West. Women in general are not worth the investment of marrying, supporting, impregnating, and raising a family with. So men are responding by moving their resources elsewhere.
Let's call it a statue. Move the statue, not the shadow. What is the statue? The statue is the unholy corporo-government union which has made men no more than whipping boys and sources of income and insemination. The statue is the public schools that drug boys for being boys and indoctrinate them into hating themselves. The statue is the divorce industry which will force men to pay their ex wives to fuck new men in their former homes. The statue is the Government which bribes women for votes by forcibly extracting resources from men and transferring them to women (women in aggregate pay no taxes, rather they consume more tax than they generate, by the way). The statue is the zeitgeist that has psychologically castrated a generation or more of men and boys.
How do you move the Statue? I say you have to wait, and let it collapse under its own weight, as it always does. It will correct itself.
Strap yourself in and get ready for turbulence.
David Mitchell
cause surrogates dont exist, another dumb burger...
Nathan Garcia
Show me someone who is officially in MGTOW but could be drowning in pussy if he chose it.
MGTOW people don't look like they were a female's first choice.
Kayden Ramirez
>How dare you say we are the same exact thing as feminists!!!! >I hate you!!!!
Nu-Sup Forums is equal to the thing they hate so much.
Landon Sullivan
Finding the right woman is like finding a unicorn AND keeping it safe from degeneracy for the rest of your life and if you make a single mistake the fake unicorn will literally rip your life apart
Jayden Wright
every couple of weeks someone at my job is hurt or complaining about their wife or gf cheating and the rest of the time bitching about money. fuck all that. never get caught
Aaron Jones
Fuck off stormfag you have only been a vocal minority here and we let you stick around because you guys can be funny sometimes
Gabriel Myers
>why cant girls just fuck people who just watch and breath around them instead of talking to them and knowing them like
HAHAHA you fucking Romanian faggot, women SHOULD be fucking those around them and not acting like they have a right to think so goddamn hard about who they choose. Women should be treated like shit as long as they're going to keep acting like shit mental-inferiors
Logan Sanders
>Brazil
The Right wing doesn't exist in your monkey country, That's why. All of your monkey citizens love open borders.
Owen Gutierrez
Why not just be a celibate priest?
Oliver Scott
Not disputing this because *any* decent human being is a "unicorn"
You're trying to find someone who is shitty in ways that you can tolerate. Not some idealistic caricature of a manic pixie dream girl with 0 shared views and a completely incompatible personality.
James Torres
>he still hasnt taken the 2d pill come home user
Joseph Johnson
Mgtow is for faggots But I don't think anyone is claiming somethings aren't quite right
Juan Jones
>Stormfag
I remember when Sup Forums actually cared about whites existing in the future. Now if you're an oldfag with that idea, it's like this will call you a stormfag.
Really makes you think?
Robert Edwards
MGTOW are an evolutionary dead end. Good riddance...
Lucas Peterson
...
Matthew Watson
If MGTOW actually cared about any of the issues they proclaim to be caring about, they would try to politically organize around them and get some change for example in the legal system happening. They don't. They deny their inner nature and opt-out of all interaction with 50% of the society.
Caleb Hernandez
>Yeah goyim s-screw white kids and surrogates die a virgin with a piece of paper with a waifu on it
Adrian Miller
She has some manly hands. That would be a tight handjob but a little gay.
Charles Bailey
>I remember when Sup Forums actually cared about whites existing in the future. Now if you're an oldfag with that idea, it's like this will call you a stormfag.
Sup Forums was never nazi. Sup Forums was always about hating women.
Jayden Cook
Yes goyim, Screw surrogates and white children. Paper with waifus on it is so much better....
Hudson Ward
let the system fall and white bitches off welfare will adjust their behavior so then can marry man with money... eliminate the parasitic laws which favor bitches heavily and men wont mind...
Luis Hughes
Rather than dating trendies, bar sluts, high maintenance, shallow girls, college girls, liberal arts girls, social science girls, you see everywhere. Give the girl who doesn't talk, doesn't interact with people, who keeps to herself a chance. That is my only advice. I did that and ten years later things are going great.
With that being said I tended to go my own way, didn't bother with relationships and anything before then because most women are fucking vacuous. So I started looking in places the skanks won't go. I didn't waste my time with the types I listed and I know you know who they are, but still chase them anyway and that is your mistake.
Christopher Ortiz
>they would try to politically organize around them
No, that's MRA and that has completely and utterly failed.
You know MGTOW is no different than feminism so you make arguments to cover your ass. Even OP's pasta goes on about HPV. How is that different from the syphilis or gonorrhea? You think only women spread STD's.
>Hurrrr durrrr i don't have sex with women because girls are dirty and I might catch something and ruin my sex life that I don't have.
>The difference is that when feminists say "male privilege", they are wrong, When MGTOWs say "female privilege", they are right
Yeah! when they say something, they are wrong because we said they are, but we are also right by the same argument because....we said we are. You cucks are no different than feminists.
Charles Thomas
Yeah, because entering a binding contract that may as well state "if she's not happy, you're fucked" and having everything taken from you is a smart idea.
Jacob Roberts
>They deny their inner nature and opt-out of all interaction with 50% of the society.
Wtf are you smoking? Pump and dump is very MGTOWish.
Anthony Price
>genesis 3 >eve teams up with the snake (minorities, jews, evil, etc) to eat the forbidden apple god himself told her not to fucking eat >eve then """"""""gives""""""" adam the apple and they're banished from heaven >PLOT TWIST EVE DIDN'T TELL ADAM HE WAS EATING THE FORBIDDEN APPLE eve literally conspired with the wicked to do an evil deed and then subverted adam and get him banished him heaven by lying to him.
>BUT BUT DAT GOOD GURLS >DEY DINDU NUFFIN in the book which details the creation of humanity it shows how vile women are. they even god against god and all that's holy.
Matthew Williams
Yawn, just a short thread with no IDs.
Sup Forums is MGTOW and always was.
Jeremiah Wilson
...
Sebastian Baker
I just thought about it all again. Guns that can be used for self defense were available since over a hundred years ago. Why do we still have rape?
Isaac Garcia
>He's so new he doesn't remember when Sup Forums had custom flags and no ids
Ryan Campbell
Yes goyim, start a family and get a mortgage for that house and pay interested on it until the day you die!
Ethan Diaz
this bitch looks sterile
Thomas Allen
>Because being her provider is alpha.
It literally is. Being a provider is only bad if another man fucks her, but I'm not some beta numale fag, so I'm not worried about this.
Angel White
>but we are also right by the same argument because....we said we are.
No, because women provably have privileges and men provably are discriminated against.
Ryan Cruz
The government is dominated by men. Alphas, such as myself. Every branch. We leave it to you beta's to bitch and stoop down to the level of women who haven't emotionally matured since they were 13.
Benjamin Parker
Alright, real talk. I have nothing against people who wanna stay single all thier life. That being said, most of the MGTOW people have not experienced the joys of marriage. When you are married to the right person, marriage is great. In a good marriage, you have a real partner. You look after each other and in a world that doesnt gove a shit about you, its great to have a partner who really cares and has your back.
You dont have to be married to have a good partner but its still really great to be married to the right person.
William Cooper
(((Surrogates)))
Burgers can't read for shit
Justin Murphy
Wow, in spite of all your horseshit i've managed to be married once, for 11 years now and have four children. We still get along and have sex. Face it, you just suck at life. That's not a movement.
Brayden Lopez
Hi everyone, Saaaandman here. Gib monies.
Josiah Wilson
You confused MGTOW with MRA.
Nicholas Campbell
What are you babbling about? That was exactly my point. There were no IDs at the time of that thread, so it could have been just 1 user posting it.
Your link is worthless. Sup Forums has known since a long time that women are the enemy.
Xavier Gray
Have already been marred and never will again. You kids are absolutely right. Never again.
Marriage doesn't work in the world today, it's an institution and it's in decay,
Jackson Campbell
I get it. You've never accomplished anything in your life because you suck and you know it, but you don't want anyone else to admit it. So you blame women for taking that job you were going to get as a professor at a university. Top lel.
Cameron Harris
Same thing, Different name.
Just like Progressives and Feminists/Regressives
Oliver Bell
The stupidest thing a man can believe is
"but my girlfriend/wife is different, she would never cheat on me."
Andrew Jones
>government is dominated by alphas >
But that's what the problem is. The institution of marriage isn't what it used to be. By getting married you're just propping up the very thing that's ruining western civilization.
Josiah Perez
idiot burger... women are majority of voters, so so called alpha politicians are betas that promise them shit and they they think it makes them alpha... stop baiting...
Jaxon Campbell
>I-It could've been one person
Notice the different typing patterns you retarded kraut? Face it we hated both Women and your shitty movement.
You're both Kike Psy-ops
Jose Evans
as far as i remember after specific period of time the law will consider you married if you move in together, even without getting married, but not sure on that i am not a burger...
Isaac Wright
Glad someone here gets it. be a fucking man and life gets a whole lot easier
Adrian Rogers
>It literally is.
No, it's not, because literally ANYONE can be a beta provider for a cunt. You just need to go to a woman and ask her "Can I be your provider".
MGTOW is gay. These autists need to learn to take control of a relationship as a man should
Chase Diaz
>Same thing, Different name.
Yeah, no. It's literally the opposite. There are some overlappings but not many.
Jace Brooks
And you are 100% right. Most women aren't aware of their value, quality, looks, surroundings...
Most of them live with head in sky.
Mason Roberts
Merely a symptom of a cause. Remove the cause and men won't drop out and will be more likely to marry and have kids.
Cause: Alimony and Divorce are fucking men over Effect: Men stay away from marriage/dating to avoid getting fleeced.
Simple as that
Hunter Walker
>be a fucking man
Anthony Lewis
Believing anything is different from the others like it, be it Jews, financial schemes, women, nogs, jobs, whatever, is fucking dumb. There is nothing new under the sun.
Jackson Bell
I jerked off to this cap.
Matthew Perry
>learn to take control of a relationship as a man
Lol.
Aiden Hall
Surrogacy looks like the way to go atm, hopefully the feminists don't fuck that up too.
Cmon scientists get those artificial wombs working already.
Wyatt Richardson
>you know you're wrong so you can only make arguments that indicate that you're right!! ... are you actually retarded? and when he says >when feminists talk about "male privilege", they're wrong. when we talk about "female privilege", we're right he means that there is actual empirical evidence to indicate that our society is gynocentric, while there's no empirical evidence to believe that the system is oppressing women.
Luis Sanchez
KEEKKKKKK. So you admitting that pol's golden boy trump is a beta who pandered to women??? Mmmmmmmmmkkkkk. Really makes my dingles berry.