How do we get rid of religion?

How do we get rid of religion?

How many peopme have to die for no reason but to satisfy an imaginary degenerate deity?

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Dude, you're so 18th century. This is [CURRENT YEAR]. If you care about people dying, stop the State. You could have saved 250 million people in the 20th century alone.

No, i mean, people can continue dying.

But at lesst they should die for something real.

I've tried this several times. Sup Forums likes their sky fairy. For a group so openly filled with rage, they sure have a lot of irrational fears.

Rub some dirt on it and walk it off.

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Don't kid yourself if there was no religion people would still find reasons to chimp out

You don't. Even in a religionless utopia there would still be cults for those who can't tolerate reality and want something more comfy.

But if you want to get as close to that imagined utopia as possible then I recommend coming up with a secular version of church. Reinforcing your values and connecting with the community once a week like what happens when one goes to church every Sunday is a good idea.

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at lesst it will be a REAL reason to chimp out.

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>people believing things I don't like triggers me

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It's far easier to get rid of you.

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I doubt being droned because some asshole missed his target is "something real"

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If you need the threat of punishment under the law, to keep you obeying the law. Your not a civilised person. So let's ban jails.

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I kill that jew with muh dik.

being receptive to stories about abstract, invisible things is fundamental to the function of the human brain and allows co-operation across genetic lines. The value of money is imaginary, the UN is imaginary, nations are imaginary, everything that guides your behaviour except the feelings of hunger, pain and lust is imaginary.

Sometimes people appear who are less receptive to imaginary things, don't follow rituals, don't like religion, but their communities inevitably fall apart and don't have children because they're too busy sitting around navel-gazing. Then they get replaced by religious people.

Religion is going precisely nowhere because religious people have children while atheists have cats. Sorry bout that :(

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Get rid of people.

Worst argument ever. I hope you didn't spend much time on that analogy.

Sorry if you're a spiritual desert, must be fun having effectively no soul.

You don't get rid of religions, there will always be unproven beliefs what people choose to believe in (, in order to cope with shit life throws at you). Choosing not to believe in anything will result in hedonism and other degenerate behavior. How about you study some of the relgions what those teach about how to live a happy life instead of ranting about shit u know nothing bout.

What about religious people who have children AND cats?

Death wouldn't be my goal, but I would definitely treat her to my cock as well.

Autism is the savage awakening of humanity from the quagmire of irrational societal "norms". Of course more autists will be atheist; it's the actual truth they seek.

There is something about that kike that makes me want to throat fuck her.

>How do we get rid of religion?
We cannot and we will not, the human mind is literally hardwired for religion. In fact, citing fertility statistics on PEW you could even argue that atheism is an evolutionary dead end, and that we will see the end of atheism far before the end of religion. In fact it could even be argued (though it's a bit of a stretch) that even atheists don't really not believe in God: studies have shown that atheists have an equally strong emotional response to mentions of God as religious people.

>How many peopme have to die for no reason but to satisfy an imaginary degenerate deity?
According to the Encyclopedia of Warfare only 7% of wars in human history were waged for religious reasons (only 3% if you remove Islam from the equation). If you want to prevent human deaths, religion is pretty low on your priorities list. And if you balance it out with what religion has done to save people, you could even argue that in the end it balances out (though I have no numbers on that).

We've got the same amount of soul as you. None. We just aren't deluded about it.

I agree my fellw athiest brethran!

Bunch of fadoras

I agree!

Your cats keep the rat population down and protect you from the plague and then your descendants end up ruling the world, bowing only to the Bogdanoffs.

At least that's one hypothesis. It's sometimes claimed that Christians in Europe killed a load of cats in the 14th century and that allowed the Black Death to spread. Meanwhile cats lived happily in Jewish communities. Not sure how accurate that assessment actually is.

Bunch of Jews

>studies have shown that atheists have an equally strong emotional response to mentions of God as religious people
For different reasons. Atheists have a response to the word "god" because it's upsetting to us that so many people have this irrational superstition. It's even more upsetting to us that religious people insert their beliefs into the laws that we all have to follow. If religious people minded their own god damned business, there'd never be any problems stemming from it. As far as atheism being a dead-end, that is extremely subjective. Atheists aren't driven by the urge to produce more christians and muslims. We see the religious doing far more than is necessary of that. Overpopulation and the prospect of bringing children into this shit religion-driven society keeps us from shooting sperm into every available uterus.

They've been a symbiotic species to us for as long as recorded history so there must be SOMETHING going on there.

>A disability is truth
WEW lad.

At least spell correctly if you're going to attempt to insert some self-righteous "god loves you anyway" bullshit in here.

You just don't understand many things, do you?

I'd explain why you're wrong, but it would just raise more questions in your simple mind.

>It's even more upsetting to us that religious people insert their beliefs into the laws that we all have to follow.
Name one that is currently active in the United States. One.

>If religious people minded their own god damned business
But they do. Or are you one of those people who thinks someone telling you "God bless you" after you sneeze is trying to indoctrinate you? And even then, why is it that mentions of God cause this emotional reaction among atheists? It implies emotional frustration at God, not at Christians (which would be more understandable given this point of view). Feeling an emotional reaction to something you deny exists is as irrational as it gets. I don't get upset because Zeus raped a woman in the form of a cow (because I don't believe that actually happened), but I do get upset if people say such a thing (rape) is perfectly acceptable.

>As far as atheism being a dead-end, that is extremely subjective.
Not really. It's a cold, hard, numerical facts. I thought atheists liked facts.

>Overpopulation
Which is far from a problem in Europe and North America. In fact, underpopulation might be a bigger problem in the short term (hence the incessant importing of people from regions of the world that do struggle with overpopulation).

God actually hates us

You sure got me. Guess I'm an atheist now

Atheists vote overwhelmingly left. Christians vote majority right. Enough said.

Don't ask me, it's gotten so bad here, soon the Jewish religious courts (!) will be allowed by law to rule in non-religious matters as well.

That is the cringiest post I have ever seen. I have goosebumps from the douche-chills after reading that.

Shut up, that's not true.

That's a good thing.

Stop hating yourselves and get ready for Mashiach, by performing mitzvahs for yourself and others. Start exercising and building your Torah skills.

Amateurs.

>According to the Encyclopedia of Warfare only 7% of wars in human history were waged for religious reasons
This is misleading. Religion has been a driving force in most wars, though the official reason would be something else. Despite that, the longest-fought and bloodiest wars throughout history have had huge religious involvement. Also, the parts that religion has done to "save people" are about as ambiguous as which wars had religious influence.

If you count the fact that the majority of the world's population is operating in willful ignorance because they choose to believe in mythology over science, I'd say that religion has been an immeasurable detriment to society and the species overall.

THAT said, it won't go away any time soon. Maybe we're just too god damned violent and hateful and stupid to operate in this world without the threat of eternal punishment. I'm atheist, and I don't murder or steal or rape or even hurt people. I don't need any eternal threat to convince me that the world is better if I'm not a cunt. I'd have to say that most of the world would probably kill each other and itself if it was definitively proven that god is just a silly story.

Then why is life so shit? I've already accepted that things will never ever get better.

>Religion has been a driving force in most wars
Can you provide a citation for that?

>Despite that, the longest-fought and bloodiest wars throughout history have had huge religious involvement
I'll need a citation for that as well, as well as an explanation for what "huge religious involvement" entails.

>Also, the parts that religion has done to "save people" are about as ambiguous as which wars had religious influence.
True, but I do hope that's more of an argument against you than against me. You are yourself admiting a lot of the role of religion on war is ambiguous at best.

>Also, the parts that religion has done to "save people" are about as ambiguous as which wars had religious influence.
You know the Draper-White thesis is rejected by most historians, right?

Atheism probably comes in waves, appearing and disappearing again and again due to fertility problems. People in their 20s now don't believe in God on the whole, but that's mainly because of a few things that happened in their formative years.

Dawkins came along and published The God Delusion, which was witty and entertaining and very seductive because it allowed you to think you were smarter than your parents.
Some insane Muslims flew planes into buildings and then your teachers spent the next several years talking about how Christianity is actually just as bad as Islam because muh crusadez and all religions are essentially the same (a massive fucking lie, obviously)
Iraq and Afghanistan didn't go particularly well and all the blame was placed on George Bush and the Republican party. Republicans largely identifying as Christian meant that Christianity ended up guilty by association. Christianity and Islam (and by extension religion in general) seemed to be causing widespread death, destruction, and misery. IMAGINE ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING FOR TODAY GUYS
Massive tsunami in 2004 kills nearly 300,000 people the day after Christmas. I remember one newspaper article in particular headlined "God is in the dock and looks very guilty"
Hurricane Katrina hits American confidence and makes it look and feel weak. Once again, Christian Republicans are blamed.
Man who obviously isn't religious seeks election as President of the USA and is very good at talking. He promises to make everything better and fix the entire world. Lots of hope and happy feelings. No God involved/required.
Horrendous recession and debt crisis, no hope and no prospect of ever buying a house.

Now twenty-somethings hide from the crushing hopelessness behind massive beards and carry approximately a 0.0% chance of ever having children. As a whole we will be replaced by hardcore Muslims and Christians who will proceed to fight a massive holy war in Europe, possibly by 2050 and definitely before 2100

Your nation still aches from the wars with Egypt and the other nations that ended in the 70s. I am sorry, but this has really made Israelis who remember the era depressed and with good reason. It is up to the younger generation to snap themselves out of it. Many are, but there are still many pressures bringing you down emotionally, such as all the Jew hate. This comes from people who lack the knowledge of what Jews actually are and do. So, I would say that the most miserable Israelis I know lead more secular lives. Be proud and keep Shabbat and kosher, be glad you live in a country where such things are easy. We really only have LA, Miami and to the highest extent NY.

Study Torah with annotations.

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I didn't bother reading that.

>Name one that is currently active in the United States. One.
Unnecessary and futile. Even if I found one or more that have clearly been influenced by religion, it doesn't matter. The United States isn't the only country on earth. Besides, what's all this abortion shit about? It's not atheists making a fuss.

>But they do.
But, they never fucking do. They're called the right wing, and they are apparently more than 50% of the country I live in. They affect health care for women, for one. Mention zoroastrianism to an atheist and you won't get a reaction because it never affects us. Right-wing religious ideologies affect atheists every day. I live oppressed by religion even though I am one of the enlightened who knows it's all silliness. It's the same reason people get triggered by SJWs. Religious people are so intrusive as to be violating. I don't care if churches exist, but keep your bullshit off of my TV and out of my schools and off of my money and out of my pledge of allegiance. Religion has no place in society, but in the thoughts and places of worship for the weak-minded.

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy."

Islam had to go back. Crusades helped.

Stop masturbating and looking at porn, including hentai too. You chose to be Jewish, before you entered the world.

>Not really. It's a cold, hard, numerical facts. I thought atheists liked facts.
Did you read my explanation as to why you may think so, or why atheist numbers don't indicate rampant reproduction like in religious families? Obviously you either didn't, or you have problems with comprehension.

>Overpopulation
People love to insist that if they don't have seventeen children, the competing religion will overpower them with numbers. At one point in time, it was probably important to encourage reproduction, but it isn't any more. There are enough people. We are reproducing at an alarming rate as a species. People who have more than two kids anywhere in the world should be beaten mercilessly and neutered like a fucking dog.

I can't even begin to imagine how awful your country would become if it was even more godless.

Your sarcasm belies the fact that you've got nothing left. Go watch cartoons.

I haven't masturbated in the last week yet I felt no change. In fact, the more I stay away from degeneracy and escapism the more depressed and hopeless I get.

>implying that all of our technology would have been developed without the incentive of war

>implying stalin had a real reason to chimp out
>implying mao had a real reason to chimp out
>implying castro had a real reason to chimp out

government led by men, who believe in only men, is the truest definition of the blind leading the blind, the belief that because you don't believe in something it should be eradicated is not only dangerous but childish, and has been used as a justification for some of the most horrific atrocities ever done by men, its fine if you don't believe in god, but don't pretend like objective morality exists without him, because we are already seeing the effects of a godless society.
>dead-eyed easily brainwashed shiftless drifters in their own life constantly telling others what to believe.
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>Unnecessary and futile.
Indeed. Why would you ever want to provide evidence for your statements.

>The United States isn't the only country on earth.
But it is the country where the study took place. Making America's legislation a pretty big deal if you use that as an explanation for the facts.

>Besides, what's all this abortion shit about? It's not atheists making a fuss.
About that....
prolifehumanists.org/secular-case-against-abortion/
There are also pro-choice Christians, as retarded as it may be.

> They're called the right wing, and they are apparently more than 50% of the country I live in.
Yeah, how dare others have different opinions than you and make them known in the political sphere to gain votes!

>It's the same reason people get triggered by SJWs.
Nobody believes SJWs don't exist, and no anti-SJWs get triggered about statements by genderqueers. Because they don't believe genderqueer is a thing that exists outside of the heads of some very disturbed individuals.

>I don't care if churches exist, but keep your bullshit off of my TV
You know, if you see a church emission you don't like you can always change the channel. You most likely have literally hundreds to choose from.

>Religion has no place in society
Freedom of worship, enshrined in your constitution, objectively proves you wrong. Don't be so easily triggered, nigger.

>How do we get rid of islam?

Fixed it for ya.

You're not enlightened, you're just a edgy teen who's a fool. Obviously religion is false, but that doesn't mean it isn't necessary for the common man and society as a whole. Grow up and see the world as it is.

Ideology that's caused the most deaths in the last hundred years - and quite possibly more than any other in human history, is explicitly atheist communism?

>shitposting this loudly
I hereby begrudgingly acquiesce to you articulate and intellectually sound arguments.
Aren't you pleased. Did that get you off?

go back to your containment board, weeb

>Can you provide a citation for that?
No. As stated, the official reasons are other. Like I said. Learn to read.

How about the crusades? Citations aren't needed when common sense is so overwhelming that nothing else even comes into view.

I admit nothing of the sort. Even now, we fight a religious war in the middle east. Is anyone going to call it a religious war? They are, but we won't. Since we will undoubtedly win, we will write the history. Once again, douche user has another factoid to insert into his pro-religion rhetoric.

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Say Hebrew words, in place of the Punjabi and Guru names.

>How do we get rid of Abrahamic religions

Fixed your Fix.

Lol, the war in the middle east isn't about religion- it's about oil. How stupid are you?

Also, the Crusades were justified- but of course you would know that if you had any knowledge of history at all.

Call /jp/ a containment board one more fucking time and I assure a swift death for you. Do NOT underestimate me.

I refuse

>You know the Draper-White thesis is rejected by most historians, right?
According to the internets, this is a paper that has been rejected by historians. I have not the will to read a paper in order to argue with you about a piece of evidence I didn't cite, so your citation means nothing as an argument against mine. The fact that you know and mention it only means that you've loaded your religion-pumping arsenal with useless information designed to add credibility to your perspective. The problem is, I could probably find discredited bullshit written to support your point and mention it as a reason that you're wrong too, but in all cases, it's irrelevant unless I cite it as evidence first, numnuts.

Bruh people can be religious if they want, but as soon as they start impeding on people's personal lives is when religion gets out of control. Proud Catholic here; Deus Vult, my brothers!

Atheism is the conclusion to increasing intelligence. As we evolve, religion will disappear. The world will stop reproducing like they're competing and the population will level out at a sustainable number, probably several billion less than we have now.

Dawkins is a thinker that is only hated by the religious because he makes sense. Godcucks can't argue his points, but with rhetoric.

Religion flourishes in oppression. Muslims are pissed off because their lives are shit. They don't have better mythology popular enough in the region to at least limit the amount of oppression they get from their own religion, so they lash out.

Christian crusaders killed women and babies just like the muslims. They're both scum. The crusades should have been the end of both of them. If only the holy land could have been completely nuked back then.

Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't have happened without the religious right, period.

Katrina was a fiasco because no one in the region planned ahead for the inevitable. It was blamed on Bush because HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP.

Trump has nothing to do with religion, but it wasn't the atheists who voted that cocksucker into office.

The generation of beards and hopelessness is about the economy and life that big business has left for them, not religion.

I hope I'm either dead before the holy war, or have a good vantage point for shooting at both sides until a bullet finds me.

I neither implied or even thought about that while I was writing something unrelated, which is what I wrote. Much technology comes from war. Why is this relevant to this discussion in the least?

>Why would you ever want to provide evidence for your statements.
Ok. Start with abortion, nigger.

Sorry, I'm not wasting my time reading links that do your arguing for you. The pro-life christians are probably equivalent to christian-based religious cults in both number and respect.

>Yeah, how dare others have different opinions than you and make them known in the political sphere to gain votes!
...aaaand the point is side-stepped completely.

>Nobody believes SJWs don't exist
Point missed entirely again.

TV was an analogy for all intrusion of religion into regular life. If I choose to seek out religion, I can. Religion has no place in my life, and I don't like that it clouds the judgment of anyone else in my sphere.

Religion still has no place in society. I meant to say public society, in that nobody has any right to preach that shit to me for any reason, but it works both ways. You wouldn't be so supporting if I was arguing for satanism, even though that's a religion also.

He had it right the first time, though islam is a good place to start.

No. If you'd argue with one shred of intelligence about the subject instead of throwing in irrelevant bullshit, and also if you read a little more carefully and came up with intelligent arguments, that might get me off, even if you don't agree with me. I can argue intelligent things all day. What I can't do is banter with fools.

>35 posts by this ID
>last 5 posts were yours
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user, are you feeling okay? Want to talk about it?

>the war in the middle east isn't about religion
Despite what happens behind he scenes, religion is the ONLY thing reported on ever.

>the Crusades were justified
Hahaha! Go ahead and tell yourself that. The only "justifications" were religious. Period. Whether it was religious-fueled actions on the other side, or that we claimed to be taking back land that belonged to us - whatever. It was a holy war, one of the most famous ever fought. Millions perished in the name of one god or another. If you can justify that, you're a fool.

I agree with this, but am dead serious about it. I don't even want to hear one christian peep when I install one-hour abortion kiosks in every mall nationwide.