Why are there no great female artists?

>inb4 they didn't have opportunities

Film, music, literature, painting etc. you can find some second and third rate female artists. Are only men capable of genius?

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They are to oppressed to be creative

Women weren't allowed into apprenticeship and trades for a very, very long time. There are plenty of modern female masters, you just never bothered to look them up.

Uh Anne Frank was a brilliant austist

Men are much more likely to be geniuses or comeplete retards, as women generally have IQs that stick toward the centre.
Women arent as creative either since their only motive for doing anything is attention whoreing and they dont have a single deep thought

>when the best post is by a fucking leaf

No there aren't, that's my point. Kathryn Bigelow? Louise Bourgeois?? WEAK sauce

>be female painter and wants to make a great piece of art one day
>tfw people will tell me my shit looks good because i'm pretty
>tfw people will associate my art as special snowflake sjw shit
>tfw cant deny this is true
>tfw feel shitty
Can someone please explain this to me? I'm just guessing but is it possible that back then when there really was sexism in the sense women were expected to stay in a home and do whatever their husband want that perhaps women weren't allowed to make art or were discouraged from making art?

There are women classical composers, lots of great women jazz singers and pianists...

There are tons of great women authors, Frankenstein was written by a teenage girl

I can't immediately think of any women painters, but I know they are out there. A pop artist I like is Hannah Hoch..
maybe you should take the time to Google your questions before making sweeping accusations

It's true. Until this thread I thought that at least among these cool digital painters on deviantart and stuff there would be a high proportion of females, because they all have some female characters as avatars. Turns out they're all male. Wtf?

IQ variance is higher in men, and creativity is essentially sexual ornamentation.

>creativity is essentially sexual ornamentation
What does that mean?

You're just showing your lack of culture

Your ignorance of art is glaring! Literature and Film (what I know more about) owe a lot to women throughout the ages. They may honestly not be as good with music or painting though. In my opinion.

Can't women see more colours than men? Shouldn't that be a huge advantage in painting?

>literature you can find some second and third rate female artists

As a Brit you should know that women can be great writers. Virginia Woolf and George Eliot ring any bells?

Frustrated sexuality is what creates great works of art. That's why artists are either degenerates (they can't get enough) or fucking prudes (they wish they could get some but they are fucking pussies)

Caveman chicks digged artists

Leni Riefenstahl anyone?

WRONG. No important female composers from renaissance, baroque, classical, romantic or modern periods. Mary Shelley is not a great author and Hannah Hoch was a degenerate.

There are plenty of great female writers. I would hardly call Virginia Woolf, Charlotte Bronte or Emily Dickinson third rate.

There have been more than a few great female directors, they just aren't from the USA and they aren't making the trash feminists watch.

I don't know where to post this but I'm so happy

>valentine is coming up
>gf isn't free on that day because she's an escort and needs to stay available
>finally manage to set a date for 10 in the evening but she doesn't know it's me
>it'll be a huge surprise for her

I'm planning on asking her hand

Isabella of Spain made removing kebab and merchant an art.

She is certainly an exception. Triumph of the Will and Olympia were groundbreaking

you may as well just combine those 3 authors into one. their works are inseperable in their boredom.

The Brontes are boring but I don't think Woolf is. Her prose may be the closest to perfection in the history of the English language

They're like Negroes in their artistic uncreativity. Not a bad thing per se, but it becomes sad when they they start plopping eggs from their genitals and call it art

However there is one exception among all races IMO - Jap women

>who is Milo Moire

Well that's the great part about being a woman, isn't it?

You could make a finger-painting but as long as you're pretty everybody will bend over backwards for you - and when somebody calls you out, just call them a lifeless manchild virgin and you instantly win.

>she's an escort
Those are prostitutes right?

no

Whats she do then?

What is artemisia gentileschi you mouth breather

she hangs out with men but she's not a prostitute

>this is what he actually believes
Time to face the reality that she has to be free for prospective clients to fuck her - and you're probably going to be the 5th guy she's with that day.

Please tell me about the kinds of "escorts" who don't fuck but just kind of walk around escorting you. Is she a bodyguard or something? Please tell me, I'm dying to know, Frenchie.

Does she let you watch sometimes? A real life pornhub!! You can even pick her customers.

youtube.com/watch?v=KZyBpUOVH_4 You mean this bint?

This is a strange concept to me

I took a bunch of art history classes in college with my gf at the time. Funny thing about women artists is that they were enamored with self-portraits.

You don't see a female artist who doesn't paint self-portraits until the mid 20th century. O'Keefe was the only one I can remember without a self portrait series. Even before the camera was invented, these broads would only pick up the paintbrush to paint selfies. Another interesting fact is how touched up they were. We saw photos of Frieda kahlo and Mary Cassatt that when compared to their selfies made it very clear they were making themselves look better.

When male artists did self portraits, they very often if not usually, tried their best for a perfect recreation of their actual appearance or emphasized a negative feature. On the other hand, female artists always had to make their boobs a little bigger, fix that crooked nose, make those eyes just a little dreamier.

It was hilarious once you noticed it.

women became the art.

Dude, is that Anita Sarkeesian? (I ain't clicking that god damn shit)

Jesus, she's starting to look really fucking old really fucking quickly. I can't wait until five years from now once she hits "the 30 wall" and she starts doing "death to all penises"

i bet your art sucks anyway

This, I'm sure there are great artists that are female. But men tend to claims the top spots as well the bottom spots of society.

My wife isn't perfect, but she is in the part of that medium.

>runs her own massage and beauty buisness
>clients are the cumdupsters that got rich
>or other business women
>rents rooms out to other women
>tfw I could be a neet
>she looks to me for advice
>she understands how to do basic stuff
>maintain a car, basic plumbing and lekky
>most men can't do that

The best sign of an intelligent women is one who hasn't destroyed herself whoring around. So many seem to think sex is how they get validation in life.

There are some, but mainly painters, Remedios Varo and Leonora Carrington.

Georgia O'Keeffe?
Joanna Newsom
Margaret Schumann

You seem to have a historically unhinged view of art, music and history.

I always get turned on by classical nudes. I cant go to the museum anymore because of this. Pls post more.

You've literally named three mediocre people who have contributed nothing to their respective medium.

>can name only three
>what do you mean most great painters were men, what is wrong with you
top jej m8

>essentially sexual ornamentation.
This is true in some way but in a great magnitude. Creativity is to sling your dick in a fancy and eloquent manner, and disguise it as not a dick but with dick symbolism

Also O'keefe, Adélaïde Labille-Guiard, Hildegard von bingan, Mary Beale, Edmonia lewis, FUCKING CASSAT YOU RETARD, and Lange, Freida Kahlo,Angelica Kauffman, and my favorite Romaine Brooks

read a fucking book you slimey limey.
>not knowing Artemisia Gentileschi
fuck im mad

You and me both, her Judith was objectively superior to carvaggio's

>Women arent as creative either since their only motive for doing anything is attention whoreing and they dont have a single deep thought
your post started out faggy, but ended with a 10/10 insight.

this is spot on- but you CAN train them. I personally believe a good woman can help the creative man much much more than if he were on his own.

i agree, carvaggio got BTFO

Also learn your own artists you fucking mongloid

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This.

George Sand, Lou Salome

Although they acted like men.

I got you bro. Examples:

Sappho
Diotima

He OP you fucking faggot, you're gonna tell me that Carvaggio's shitty rendering of the blood was superior to Gentileschi? Huh you faggot?

>Painted selfies
Kek..
Women truly are natures normie faggots.

...

That's like asking why there weren't any dogs or hamster painting great works In the renaissance. Women were in a very traditional role so that they had no interest in being an artisan. If a woman was rich enough to indulge in learning how to paint or sculpt, the decades of study required to reach even mediocre levels was not something that was available to women (since women were not educated) or something they would be looking to even try, since women fit nicely into a gender role. They wanted to be wives and mothers, those were there joys in life. Women weren't that well read, weren't that studios and didn't practice a trade or talent that wasn't ballroom dancing and conversation.

Rich men from wealthy families who could afford to be sent to school to learn to paint were the origin of 99.99% of art until the 19th century. It's not like working class men in the pre industrial world were producing artwork either. It's a role in society that was exclusive to a small percentage of wealthy male children.

Every day I regret coming back to Sup Forums and every day i browse it less.

This place is cancer and a hugbox for ignorant motherfuckers. I cant believe I actually embraced Sup Forums politics for so long, brainwashed retards.

I gotchu

>woman does a painting
>guy getting his throat slit
Even hundreds of years ago, the only shit women were interested in drawing was dead white men.

Who'da guessed. :^)

Sappho? Fucking kidding me--she wrote five lines of poetry and then went and brapped on some Greek bitch's face.
>the gold was a honey crown grape
Weak.

Are you all fucking delusional? I didn't ask you to name female artists you'd heard of. So far George Eliot and Leni Riefenstahl have been named - they have contributed immensely to their mediums and are first rate. Any others you plebs???

IT'S A BIBLICAL STORY YOU COLOSSAL RETARD, NEARLY EVERY MAJOR PAINTER IN THE BAROQUE PERIOD HAS A VERSION OF JUDITH SLAYING HOLOFERNES

>abstract *braaapp*

Your a fucking tard

meant for
Holy shit your ignorance is fucking astounding.

I cms think of a small number of great female artists, but they are HUGELY outnumbered by men for the same reason every high iq proffesion is dominated by men.

The vast majority of exceptional iq people are male

>George Eliot
Kill yourself

Depending on the era youre talking about they werent allowed. Not that I care, art is a dead career which is why there are so many women in the field today.

Essentially pic related done in an intellectual/artistic form

post art so we can see how honest you are
or tits for the same reason

youre out of your element

we have "female artists" and they're all retarded and in deviantart

it's not weak at all. It's literally the best women have ever achieved.

Sappho developed enduring stanza
Diotima reasoned the ethics and love

Spectacularly not weak. 2 examples from 2000+ years that are definitively not weak.

Creativity proves iq, iq proves problem solving ability, problem solving desirable in mate

gentileschi ffs

Camille Paglia once said there was no female Mozart because there was no female Jack The Ripper. And she's right. True genius involves an amount of obsession and the willingness to push boundaries that few women, if any, possess.

ishygddt and I have to explain to you that's a woman.

Ella Fitzgerald was an amazing singer
Mary Shelley wrote one of the most beloved novels
Frida Khalo was a genius painter
The list goes on, man. Everyone is capable of genius; men just had the tools for it longer than women.

Because they either delivered children or died.

I sense that you're a bitch. Sappho sucked. She was pushed by fembots in the 60s who wanted to say hear me roar. Boring trite shit that was actually forgotten by history and the dug up by Jew dykes with an agenda.

nice

>frida khalo
Haha, Fuck off leaf
She's a meme artist like piccaso or van Gogh that no one who actually understands art likes

>of all the literally infinite subjects that could be drawn about, the female artist chooses that
Whatever you say.

Only Freida Kahlo was one of the major figures that are responsible for Mexican art and helped shaped the artists from that country even today, Lange was the first to document the great depression through photography, O'Keefe's use of color as well as subject matter were unheard before that time, as no one decided to get that close to their actual subject matter, Gentileschi surpassed her master in skill, Hildegard of Bingan was a FUCKING SAINT wrote a shit load of texts on biology, theoology as well as being an illuminator which is fucking difficult you mongloid she also invented Lingua Ignota, Cassat furthered the impressionist movement as well as depicted scenes of Parisian life that men could not because they didn't have access to it. Edmonia who is a fucking nog studied and brought back neo-classical sculpture when shit like what you'd find at a degenerate art exhibit was taking over. Oh and

Frida Khalo
You forget that she copied Diego Rivera in all sense. When you say Frida Khalo is great artist, you are a leftist shithead in all your right

pls kill yourself

looks like a literal worse copy of caravaggio wtf

"You will never have a female Jack the Ripper for the same reason you won't have a female Mozart"

>He doesn't like Alpha of Alpha's Picasso's blue period
>>out

Camille paglia also thinks she's an exception as she rattles on with her men's rights propagands shaking with smokers palsy, looking like a crack fiend.

Frida only whored her art, Diego Rivera was the artist

>Not knowing that Baroque period had a shit load of constraints emplaced by the church and was limited to basically biblical scenes or portraits.
Way to fucking read a god damn book you homo

I'm not interested in Caravaggio's followers and pupils, who are a dime a dozen. Competent no doubt!

Piccasso is a meme artist who's dad faked him into child protege status that he rode off for the rest of his life.
Only plebs unable to think for themselves think his work is any better than dogshit