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This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism
Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought
Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc.
LINKS:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism
www.centristproject.org
www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870
www.uscentrist.org
www.mensa.org
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Not many Centrists here user, we lurk more than we post I believe.
I appreciate your angle though, maybe more will come out of the shadows.
inb4 alt-cucks post "funny pictures" about centrics beign cowards because they actually have a brain and don't see the world in black and white..
I am one of you now.
I'm only here for the shitposting.
>moderation and reason on a board built on extremist
This'll go well nigger, you either a communist or a fascist here
Too intelligent to fall for the right and left meme. I'm a radical centrist
I thought I was a leftist but the centrism got me ;-;
Its a bit of an oxymoron isnt it?
Centrism usually takes a huge pride in not being radical? What do you do, take a radical pride in not being radical
Just read some fake news article exaggerating how the rich exploiting the poor and you'll be back
Hello my intelligent brethren how are you today
Mister centrist in case a race-war hypthetically takes place who would you fight for your own race,the enemy or nobody?
>exaggerating
haha yeah but really everyone working in currency speculation or lending should be hanged for their crimes
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You can also like radical positions coming from the left and the right
no, they ride segways and do ziplining and other radical shit whilst spouting a meme position that has the worst of both real options.
Can anyone name me a great person who was viewed as a centrist in their day.
I see
That just seems still impossible because having a radical position usually comes with a heavy ideology
I guess it could be
>SEND THE BLACKS TO AFRICA
>Because empirically they are a negative for this country
ok lets see what solutions you have to offer
liberals say that the reason blacks are imprisoned at such high rates is due to police bias against blacks and racism also liberals say they put blacks because petty crimes like illegal drugs, littering, sagging their pants or whatever
right wingers say that blacks are imprisoned because of their genetic tendency to be violent, blacks also have highest homicide rate in US, they have shitty culture
what's the middle ground here?
Deport the blacks without bothering to find out the answer because it's pragmatic.
>political spectrum constantly shifting leftward
>being a centrist
How does that make sense?
>constantly shifting leftward
This is a meme tier opinion that ignores the nuance of our current political situation.
Part of the reason SJWs exist is to defend the ideas of the libertarian-right in banking and markets, to prevent a protectionist small-c conservative state closing in and reimposing Christian morality on the markets.
but isn't that racist in the eyes of a liberal or a left winger?
wouldn't that cause a social unrest?
also where are you going to deport them to? some labor camps in africa or what?
What I'm seeing from this image is Hillary performing a redirection into social policy (shit that doesn't matter) when asked about economic policy (shit that does matter)
i was mostly joking.
>also where are you going to deport them to? some labor camps in africa or what?
wherever'll take them.
GOAT centrist
Because her economic answer is part of the economically-liberal status quo position of leaving the banks alone, while her social position lets her pretend to be left wing.
Just like Bill Clinton in the 90s declaring "the era of big government is over," and Tony Blair promising to stick to Tory spending plans for his first 2 years in office.
The economic reforms since the 1970s were largely a mistake. (Starting with the end of Breton Woods) Stagflation was caused by the sudden onset of high oil prices more than any other factor. Most people can't or won't see this though, so you wind up with the position that there's no going back from the globalism that resulted.
I'll consider centrism when you start offering solutions to problems that pleases both leftists and right winger, right now it looks to me like a troll position and nothing else
No need to.
Radical centrism is a meme on its own.
Adding on: Except Trump, who's to some degree outside this spectrum, although many of his advisors appear to sadly be economic-liberals.
If he goes ahead with Tariffs, we could see some interesting things result.
I'm not a centrist. My trip is usually designated leftist. (Actually broadly speaking a protectionist, but it puts me quite left-wing economically with the caveat of massive immigration controls.)
Undecided scum.
>I don't know how to be morally consistent!
>Radical Centrist
More leftist bullshit. Goodbye David.
when will British economy collapse?
No idea.
I think we're going to get another recession by 2020-2021 though. The USA has had one every decade for quite a while. The last was 10 years ago...
>My ideology lets me think I have a perfect complete understanding of the world! I feel so smart!
>radical I don't have a real opinion so I'll shift to whatever you want general
FUCK OFF user.
>radical centerist
Judges?
I kind of support killing off idiot ideologues on the left and right to make way for a society of actual intellectuals.
Does that make me a dirty non-centrist idealist?
Not the world, just morals
virtue is the only good
thats everything
MUH CENTRISM
> Literally pussies that are afraid to either go full left OR full right.
> Confused Neets that don't have an identity.
getting really tired of all the british tripfags tbqh
90% of British posters on this board are bluepilled little faggots like OP.
Am I a Centrist or a Conservative?
>You have to have a home team in politics or you are a pussy
>radical centrist
Aka left wing leaning parasite who thinks he's smart because he can shit on both sides without anyone making fun of his side because he has none
what if your political (((identity))) is inscrutable?
back to the shadows for this individual
>tfw too smart to form an opinion
How does being a radical centrist jive with the ongoing movement of the overton window? Is it like Clintonian triangulation where you move with the wind of the latest polls? Everything interesting and almost all thinkers outside the last 100 years are far outside the current overton window.
In a political environment such as ours where logic is dismissed in favor of muh feels; it makes perfect sense
I needed like 40 formed opinions to get through this survey.
The economist Mark Blyth, who also has a cool Scottish accent, has a lot of good lectures about Trump/Brexit/Le Pen/etc. in the context of the economic decisions made in the 70s and onwards and how it impacted labor.
If people get bored: youtube.com
It's far more convincing than the left narrative which basically amounts to "Richard Spencer and Pepe turned rural Pennsylvania into the KKK".
Can someone brief me on what does radical centrism believe in? Is it like a mix of both right and left or is it completely different?
>Everything interesting and almost all thinkers outside the last 100 years are far outside the current overton window.
Ideally, the government should be the most boring thing in the world. I voted for Trump but I agree with Styx; I want him to be a mild reformer.
Opening it now.
What sort of Economist is he? (Keynesian, Neoclassical, classical, austrian, marxist, etc.)
More identity politics. Cool.
Radical centrists are close-minded so they aren't welcomed here.
You fucks better at least vote.
Probably should've said political economist; I mainly know him from jumping around Youtube after hearing about him post-election. He was very anti-austerity in Europe following the banking crisis, and his videos from 2009/2010 hold up pretty well.
So definitely left-leaning, but doesn't seem to be at all dogmatic about it. If he has a designated economic philosophy I haven't caught it.
I own a Ford Mondeo
Love Blythe, glad to see him getting known
Who else Alt-Centrist here?
Ah, should be interesting then. I'm broadly of the same leaning myself, albeit with a strong dose of nationalism. (Hence why I'm usually "Designated Leftist")
A much shorter clip I like to come back to is: youtube.com
What do you know? Full employment empowered Labour, a convenient crisis popped up in 1973, and the only solution was mass unemployment...
The British angle on this is particularly fascinating because the Establishment went along with it so much. The BBC were making outright propaganda (pic related) and certain elements of the security services even wanted a full blown coup.
Horrifying stuff. Now we've got an economy propped up entirely on personal debt and a permanent housing bubble.
Right or left is a meme for good goys. I have leftist economic ideas but right cultural ideas like most of the people here.
>"socially liberal, fiscally conservative"
Radical Centrist, you mean Hitler right?
>Centrist
>Left and Right
>the "Political Spectrum"
you can post as many pics of books as you want it won't make anyone think you're any smarter.
wrong. we doubled the supply of labor in the 70s by letting women into the main workforce
It did not double the demand for labor
Too sympathetic to hang out with the conservative right wing.
Too racist and appreciative of tradition to hang out with shitty lefties.
>killing off idiot ideologies
>make way for an intelligent society
>authoritarian pursue of the intellectual way
you're a nazi, my friend
>we doubled the supply of labor in the 70s by letting women into the main workforce
In the UK they were already a major part of the workforce. All we did was open up equal pay legislation.
Doubling would always be a gross overestimate though.
(Not that I'm arguing for women's rights, for all I care they can be made property.)
Can you post more brain wojacks?
Every ideology has contradictions.
e.g. do Anarcho 'maximum freedom, no government intervention' Capitalists take into account for the freedom to subvert people and bombard them with adverts? What about the freedom to form a government? How do they refute:
>World started as AnCap by default
>Governments formed
Do Anarcho 'stateless society, everyone is equal' Communists take into account that someone MIGHT deny collectivism and if you prevent them you are a government or you allow them and you're no longer communist?
Imo, having a one-fit-all ideology is stupid - culture and social cohesion are much more important.
If you plane-drop a bunch of Assault rifles in Japan, nothing will happen because people are smart and have no reason to shoot but understand consequences if they do.
If you drop a bunch of assault rifles in Somalia, it will cause mayhem because Somalians are trigger-happy (68 average IQ, half of them are dumber than that). You give them guns, they shoot. They see female, they rape. Simple.
So how can someone have a _________ ideology when you need different tools for different situations?
Centrists, please go away.
dude get real. there were jobs for men and then a few tasks for women
this changed in the 70s and our wages have not kept up with inflation
No thanks.
Our wages have not kept pace with inflation, but outsourcing and immigration (and the massive growth of power to international-finance-capital) are just as culpable as women.
That's why ideologies that are specific to a culture/race work well due to the differences of people on Earth. That's why things like certain forms of socialism, National Socialism, et cetera only work in homogeneous populations like in Europe.
Your results are wildly inconsistent
The only thing you are is uneducated
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism
i leik
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True neutral is a myth, lads.
Is theft immoral? If the answer is yes, you are right wing.
The world consists of different cultures, languages, regions, etc. whIle morality is simply what's right or wrong
Don'tworry I remember my first week on Sup Forums
Why is Italy so low?
Is this why their GDP is a low outlier compared to other European countries?
t. Glenn Beck.
>There are pitfalls of Chaos(the left) and Order(the right) we need a dialog to have balance between chaos and order.
Centrism is about looking at both sides to find the path society needs to take forward instead of posting memes about how (otherside) is a mental disorder and we would have utopia if our team had permanent rule.
>"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that"
I was told there would be something radical....
Morality is the question "what should I do?".
thats everything
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And countries where even as little as 5% of the population think they can blow themselves up for a shortcut to heaven, need an authoritarian to prevent total chaos.
So why did your government "promote democracy" in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria etc., thus creating nothing but total chaos?
Two years ago, I was a hardcore leftist, but ever since Trump's election, I've been shifting more and more to the right. As of right now, my beliefs are right of center, but has time progresses, my hatred for the left increases. If the left keeps going the way it's going, I'll be calling myself a conservative in less than a year.
How old are you?
who /utilitarian/ here
>oppose all war (except for funding Assad against ISIS as ISIS is our fault and responsibility)
>cut military budget 30%+, redirect a portion of it as reparations to Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc
>defend against pollution and climate change
>ban birth control pills, fund all abortions as an alternative
>ban porn
>send fat kids to weight loss camps
>use tax dollars to fund fat shaming and slut shaming
>deploy massive oversight on harmful chemicals/hormones in environment and food, thoroughly control food
>regulate big business, deregulate small business
>separate church and state, abolish marriage and make it a religious decision
>use diseases, water contamination, sterilization-for-cash, etc to depopulate the third world
>starting with the most severe and working down the ladder, send prisoners to be used for human experimentation
>push to create an immortal ruling class, human brains merged with computers, human brains born and raised as brain-machines that never had bodies
>defend the constitution
>nationwide stand-your-ground, concealed carry, open carry
>build a wall and deport illegal immigrants
>publicly fund elections, end lobbying
>end government communication with TV media, make indirect moves to kill television
Why are YOU assuming that I supported my government on their Jewish lead proxy wars?
>haha yeah like all sides are wrong man
>centrist """""philosophy"""""