Seize the means of production

Seize the means of production
Do it
Now

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Eat shit Ivan. You're ideology is cancer, that's why it could never seize finland.

Would socialism work if all of our tax systems were progressive?

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no fuck off

Also won't we have to eventually have to become more and more socialistic as technology advances?

Vitun kommari paskahuora, torilla tavataan.

DEATH TO ALL COMMIES!

I've already seized the memes of production.

Can I seize your BP OP?

This is legit. If we stick to pure capitalism, millions will go poor once AI, automation and such takes their jobs. The wealth will need to be redistributed.

Or we could just go extinct?

Then it's decided, lets start with the wealthiest.

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lolololololololololol quit larping

heh

Of course we will still have to put in strict population restrictions. Maybe do what is done in the Ringworld series. temporarily sterilize everyone from birth and only allow individuals to have children if their genes are good enough or if they win a reproduction lottery.

We can't just have 40 billion layabouts.

YOU ALL REALLY BELIEVE IN SYSTEMS OF GOVERNMENT AND TAXATION!!!

XD XD XD

YOU REALLY THINK THAT'S HOW THE WORLD WORKS!!!!

XD XD XD

pls stop stop STAHP XD XD XD XD

lololol you're actually debating the pros and cons lololol

>Thinks capitalism works.
My fucking sides.

I'd have to go to China for that. They already kommi.

Then what? we give them back to a different type of elite?

I am the means of production faggot.
Seize this.

We already did you German cuck.
But then you faggots had to invent efficient machinery.

Why on earth do you think it works?

>Thinks communism works.
My fucking sides.

You newfags probably don't know about this Finnish bot poster. I think the last time he did this was about six months ago.

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>thinking anything can function better than capitalism

BTFO communists with one word
scarcity

WTF is grabbing muh dick going to accomplish?

YES
SEIZE THEM NOW

I heard that marx smelt like literal shit is this true can i get a quick gestalt?

>implying capitalism isn't destroying the earth and leaving 90% of the world population in poverty

Shut
The
Fuck
Up
Do it
Do it now

>not working for the glorious communist revolution

kys gringos de mierda

>did you win in Cuba?
no
>did you win in Vietnam?
no

You had literally to divide the world and use coup d'etat in several countries so you wouldn't have to go to nuclear war

>tfw gooks in tire sandals won the war
youtube.com/watch?v=EwhPqQhHGFM
SEIZE
THE MEANS
OF PRODUCTION

Human labor is the greatest capital. Technology devalues human labor.

Wouldn't be surprised.

>Implying we should prop up the disgusting brown masses

No id rather just worship and meme some false infomercial god with a stupid frog, thx anyway

>implying you aren't gonna be poor in the next 30 years

youtube.com/watch?v=r65C367hCVI

Your fucking government killed working class people so the bourgeoise could ruin the lives of the people in Iraq, how do you feel about that Sup Forumsfag? HUH?

S E I Z E
T H E
M E A N S
O F
P R O D U C T I O N

>implying you could ever shit post this hard if it weren't for capitalism.
>implying any measure of poverty could even exists without capitalism
If only Pinochet completed his mission

This is defacto false. Human labor is one of the shittiest capital. Wanna know why?
Try to understand what scarcity means.
Allocation of resources will ALWAYS be worth more than the resource. 1 general is always worth more than a soldier. Reconsider your basic presuppositions and apply them to anything other than your dreamworld, you will realize they dont work in any case.

IT IS TIME COMRADES
SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION

It wasn't funny the first 6,000,000 times it sure as fuck isn't now. Cut that shit out already you goddamn snowgook.

seize the means
of production!!!!

>1 general is always worth more than a soldier.
Until the soldiers don't have enough resources to maintain subsistence so they chop off the generals head and redistribute his resources.

Survival>Pecking Order

that doesn't mean shit... that's like saying "hey feudalism gave us these cool windmills but we can't have anything better you know?"... capitalism is made to be surpassed

>if only Pinochet completed his mission

he did, now my country sucks ass
we don't even have a working fire department so 6/10 of the country is burning

SEIZETHEMEANSOFPRODUCTION

s e i z e - t h e - m e a n s - o f - p r o d u c t i on
join your coworkers, form a sindicate, kill the owners

choose a side in the upcoming class war
YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR COWORKERS
OR
THE BOURGEOISE

SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION

>survival > pecking order
you didnt read what i wrote or your reading comprehension is absolute shit
Efficiency is survival, and a general who is inefficient loses his life with his soldiers. But only a general who can allocate efficiently can save his soldiers.

Only capitalism provides framework for efficient resource allocation. The funniest thing i ever seen is communists trying to understand the economy, just ask old soviet bookies. They couldnt even do it without reference prices from capitalist countries.
An ineffiecient country is a dead country ala every history ever.

>no working fire department
he saved your country from becoming cuba 2.0 and you faggots are right back at it huh.
I feel bad for him, it seems like you are too stupid for even a man like pinochet to save.

Communists in a nutshell

>Allende
>Every trusting a a filthy commie

>he saved your country
>country literally on fire because "muh neoliberalism" so we can't have the state own anything
>saved
>country literally with no working department
>saved
>stole money and sold companies illegaly, also avoided taxes and helped bring drugs to my country
>saved
>gave control of the country to a bunch of rich fags who don't give a shit if the country is on fire
>SAVED

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about you stupid cunt

>My work is worth more under communist faggots
> Salvador "To each according to his abillity for castro's cock, and to each according to there need for 20 cocks minimum" Allende

>Implying 12,6 unemployment in a country of 14 million people by the time was a good thing
>implying GDP is more important than quality of life
>implying you know about the currency change that Pinochet made to """""save""""" the currency, which turned all of people's money into nothing
>implying the bourgeoise didn't bring down the production on purpose during Allende's government
>implying the bourgeoise didn't incite trucker strikes by paying truckers to don't bring shit to the capital


holy shit, you really don't know nothing about my country at all

>Salvador "Lets just print the money, Hey castro dont stop my ass is getting cold" Allende

Hey bro why dont you ask Ricardo Ffrench Davis, what that faggot thinks and even he will tell you that while neoliberals are kikes, communists are retarded kikes post lobotomy. Even that keynesian faggot could tell you

what do you want me to do with that standalone graphic? i don't understand your superior intellect, please explain how the economy is more important than eating and living well, and how to cope with the fact that if a fire starts all my city burns up

thank u xoxo

I read the CIA docs, they are public you want me to post those too?

Even they were like holy shit we dont even need to do shit this faggot Allende is doing all the hard work.

They had multiple armed insurgencies tell them they were gonna assassinate your faggot communist and told them that they could no longer fund.

>implying all of this isnt a direct result of the fatal conceit

You commies think you know everything which is the exact reason why you know nothing. If your ideology explain absolutely ever scenario, its fallacious, just like the idea of post scarcity. You literaly need to invent a fairy tail to justify your actions while we can just justify by showing the world what faggots you are

You're not my dad!

>I read the CIA docs
congrats
i don't give a shit
also you use concepts, you don't explain what the fuck they are about so nobody gives a shit either
and you also think kikes control the world
you literally think somebody controls the world
do you also think you're Neo?
heh
what a pity a young working class man like you sucks bourgeoise dick so hard
:(

To understand something very simple my friend
the economy IS your ability to eat and live. GDP is an indicator but isnt what the economy is for.

All indicators show that you communists literally fuck your people over EVERY SINGLE TIME and there hasnt been a good communist country EVER. The small economies work and only untill a natural disaster because you niggers have such high time preference and no concept of saving for the future. dumb fuck

Yea Pinochet took monies, he deserved more than he got for having to work with a bunch of fucking kikes on one hand and a bunch of shit ass retarded communists mestizos on the other.

We'll need to colonize space before we get to that point

Yes, but who cares at that point.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_1982

>All indicators show that

how? explain them to me, since you're so smart and i'm so dumb

:)

Maybe we should took your land and turn it into shit (like su did to every land), so you would not be that retarded (or simply wouldn't be).

Guess who showed up in the middle of the night
talkin sheeeeit.

Cant make a thread...

Colonizing space will never be an effective means of population control. Getting hundreds of millions of people into space will cost too much money and wouldn't even keep up with population growth.

How about this. Place sterilization implants in everyone on Earth upon birth, they have to have decent genes and do the paperwork to be able to have one to three children, and anyone who works hard enough in school to become a specialist on extraterrestrial colony has theirs taken out completely.

Crisis on 1982 is the global shock check out all of latin america at the time. You dont fuckin have autuarky anyway

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fatal_Conceit
mises.org/library/chile-socialism-dictatorship-and-liberalism
mises.org/sites/default/files/Socialism An Economic and Sociological Analysis_3.pdf

Please tell me how you expect to run an economy without indicators?
You fucking cant. There is no such thing as econometrics in full socialism. Its just lets do this and hope it works pray to castro's left nut, and drink lenin's wine.

Say it with me "I've been dumbfounded into believing the lies of a group of people i am not part of. I am dumb. My brain is melted because of ideology. I will believe anything the ruling class tells me".

>that pic
That's enough of Sup Forums for a few weeks

like, you have people who actually know stuff about economy and can work to make it work. the only problem about socialism is it lack of valid sense
in capitalism people are obligued to believe that money and freedom are things that you can live by [knock knock, nothing really matters but you can't eat air] but in a truly free socialist society, why would you work for others?

mises.org/library/theory-socialism-and-capitalism-0

"Say it with me" is all you faggots have, repeat and believe.

Trying to think about it and logically deduce? DONT GO AGAINST MASTER MARX, GULAG IS WHERE U SLEEP.

You literally have nothing. I can say the same exact thing about you.
>Say it with me "I've been dumbfounded into believing the lies of a group of people i am not part of. I am dumb. My brain is melted because of ideology. I will believe anything the jewish ruling class tells me".

youtube.com/watch?v=1c4nIz_ldf0

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you dont get it do you?
Economics is a study of people and how they create markets. People arent obliged to believe anything because markets are completely voluntary. Its when force is used that pareto efficiency fails. A SOCIALIST SOCIETY CANT EXIST. IT IS A PERFORMATIVE CONTRADICTION. A SPOKEN PARADOX.

> it is well on its way to becoming a first-world nation

HAHAHAHAH
WE DON'T HAVE A WORKING FIRE DEP
> it is well on its way to becoming a first-world nation
> it is well on its way to becoming a first-world nation
THE COUNTRY IS BURNING HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>it is well on its way to becoming a first-world nation

SAY IT WITH ME FAGGOT
"I AM DUMB, I BELIEVE JOURNALIST WHO ARE PAID TO SHIT THEIR IDEOLOGY ON MY FACE AND I LIKE IT. I WILL NEVER DO NOTHING WITH MY LIFE"

no u

Free socialist society* is a spoken paradox

Okay, but only if it benefits my ethnic group and no one else.

Literally retarded
You cant argue with a communist

>US obligues Japan to open its market in the 1800's
>UK obligues small countries into liberalism
>YOU DON'T GET IT ITS TOTALLY VOLUNTARY

Zizek IS right, you are taking part of an ideology and you don't even know about it
now, say it with me
"I'M DUMB, I'M NOT ANYTHING BUT A MONKEY WHO KNOWS HOW TO WORK. I BELIEVE THE MEDIA THAT TELLS THE TRUTH BECAUSE THEY TELL THE TRUTH. I BELIEVE THE ECONOMIC JOURNALISTS BECAUSE THEY TELL THE TRUTH. I AM FREE. I AM FREE. I AM FREE"

S E I Z E

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote or your reading comprehension is complete shit.
>Technology increase efficiency.
>Technology devalues human labor.
>Generals utilize technology to produce more resources with less soldiers.
>Less labor = less Wages = less acquirable resources for the soldiers.
>Generals have more resources, soldiers have less resources.
>Once technology devalues the soldiers labor past subsistence and the soldiers can't afford to survive they revolt.
>Survival>Pecking Order
>Either the general redistributes his wealth through socialist programs or the soldiers seize the means of production (chop the fuckers head off).
Capitalism only works in an ever expanding economy. Unfortunately resources are finite and they capitalistic economy can only get so big. We will have to eventually change to socialism or communism or go extinct.

So it can be run by another group of shitbags ?

>"As has now become obvious, such policies bring anything but prosperity,"
>doesn't explain why, just states that is obvious

like, this is a pamphlet, you know? not an academic study about history nor economics. this is for dumb impresionable people

You fucking Chilean commie, thanks to Pinochet, Chile didn't transform in a second Cuba.

BE THANKFUL TO HIM YOU ALLENDE COCK SUCKER

*Into

>another group of shitbags

OUR group of SHITBAGS which includes you and me :D

WE CAN MAEK SOCIALESM WERK :ddDDD

>Finland

t. ruskie tourist in finland

So much fucking autism ITT

Are you lefty/pol/ neckbeards ironic or do you actually believe all that crap?

no apoyo ni a Castro, ni a Allende, ni a Stalin
más bien reconozco sus esfuerzos, que es más de lo que puedo decir de ti
si tuviera que elegir a alguna organización del 73, elegiría a la VOP es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguardia_Organizada_del_Pueblo

Also reminding you that Lenin was a german agent with a mission to eliminate Russia from World War 1. Marx was a faggot.

>implying i'd consider myself part of a group other than the working class, and not live communism from my individual perspective so i can be sincere and honest about my desires and objectives

kys

Not an argument.

Also someone who believes in trickle down economics shouldn't be calling other people autistic.

SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION

>26 posts by this ID

Are you OK?

>being this retarded

go read Tom Sowell's essay "trickle down economics". It's about 10 pages, I'm sure even you could handle that.

He's a filthy commie commisar.

I'll be better when the world is for all of us, comrade :)

>28 posts by this ID

Lefty/pol/ isn't sending their best for sure.

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