Race war is officially off the table, guys. Either hardcore civic nationalism or a new brand of ethno-nationalism that can embrace the American identity as that of most importance.
Either option can work. But race war is off the table. This is coming from a white guy still completely demoralized that the white population will be fucked permanently by what was it, 2030 or something.
I will never turn a rifle on individuals of this caliber. The problem has and remains cultural, not racial. Even if different biological traits can be inherent in each particular race, there are smart and worthy individuals of all races and backgrounds out there.
It's too easy to fall into the race hate with the way the media is manipulating everything. I admit I fell for it before but I'm moving on to working for something that is actually realistic.
Imagine Hitler-level nationalism in the entire United States, united under the ethnic group of "American." The machine would be unstoppable and would even surpass the mighty Nazi Germany at its height.
>implying a brown majority America won't simply become another brazil R E D D I T
Civic nationalists get out!
Lucas Sullivan
>t. Pedro Gonzales
Zachary Sanchez
>immigration only from the top 100 colleges You do know that you are limiting to a very few countries?
Connor Barnes
he gets to live, gets the rank of lieutenant
Jason Lewis
Are you retarded? The top 100 world universities aren't in Europe
Isaiah Jackson
Good. The only people that need to emigrate here for education are those that will create incredible lives for themselves and for the country they're emigrating to.
If that limits the potential pool, then so be it. You live in a country that isn't meeting the criteria? Move the fuck over here and go through the naturalization process to become a fully legal citizen.
It isn't fucking rocket science.
Connor Morgan
P.S. You better be making real money and contributing it to the nation hosting you via economic productivity and paying taxes.
No more freeloader shit. We can't even take care of our own.
John Barnes
Civic nationalism is just a codeword for ethnic nationalism. Why the fuck do you think minorities always vote democrat, labor, etc in overwhelming majorities? Because they realize its the party that works for their own self interest as a race and culture. Whites in Europe and the US are starting to realize this too.
Chase King
fuck off jamal
Anthony Mitchell
Wait, hold on. You have a reasonable opinion you wish too discuss? Do you even know where you are?
Christopher Bell
See, if you go full out race war you aren't going to have awesome motherfuckers like Big Joe around. This is the kind of middle class guy I'd want in society.
Race war is psyops to divide us even more than we are politically. Again, the problem is cultural. Also, even though it is cultural, it is up to communities of individuals with racial identity to work together and sort the ills of their culture out.
Finally, reddit reply is shit tier. 0/10
Hunter Davis
Of course.
I've learned a shit ton from this place in between all the shitposts and aspie-threads.
Good discourse can be found anywhere when one is paying attention.
Noah Bell
Read OP. Racists of all creeds will always exist. Human nature is human nature.
The solution is not a race war. That's what the elite want. Solution is a cultural rebranding of American identity that elevates Americans into being an ethnic group.
National Socialism, American style.
We will sort through the snakes and the wastes of flesh like society always has. This is the only plausible reality with current and future population demographics taken into consideration.
Alexander Scott
I'm an enterprise architecture consultant for IT. You're really saying I have no place in America?
Austin Wood
Do you make money? Would you put your heart in soul in maintaining this form of prosperity if you came over here?
Will you not shit on America like many ungrateful twats and appreciate the opportunity of living here and participating in American culture?
If yes, then welcome aboard.
Like I keep saying, it isn't rocket science.
Landon Myers
>Race war is officially off the table, guys. t. (((Rosenburg)))
Kayden Ramirez
Chasing fantasies that aren't attainable is about as beneficial as....continuing to shitpost on an asian basket weaving forum.
Carry on.
FYI I am a Californian, abeit a conservative one that has grown up around all races all my life.
I'm not MUH FEELZ FUCK WHITE PEOPLE in the least and I don't care for white privilege, white guilt, etc.
Yes there are an exorbitant amount of Jewish Zionists behind the scenes that have played a huge role in continuing the deteriorating race relations in this country.
Now let's work on finding a real solution. Hitler didn't even advocate for ethnic genocide, dipshit. He was all for ethnic communities living with their own and interacting with each other peacefully.
We don't get that luxury in a country that has had race politics as part of its cultural identity since the day it was founded.
Zachary Hughes
> The elites want a race war when they already control everything about the country. This is the dumbest meme. Why? Explain why the Jewish elites would want a race war when they already control every single aspect of the government? Fuck off retard.
Jackson Roberts
The chaos is the necessary step for more international government. Chaos breeds fear which increases the possibility for more control. The end goal of globalization.
How you don't already know this is beyond me.
Charles Garcia
You will swing from a sour apple tree, globalist kike.
Jace Myers
Did you not read my post faggot? They already completely control the United States. Completely. Every single politician in this country bows to Israel. Without question. They control the schools, they control the churches, and they control the media. There literally isn't any more power to grab.
Kayden Edwards
>Race war is officially off the table, guys.
You will learn.
Ryan Walker
White guy here, faggot.
Gavin Lee
Pretty sensible for Sup Forums. 5-star post.
Gabriel Perry
Is Israel a globalized, autonomous entity that directly decrees the world affairs and NOT BEHIND THE POWER OF OTHER COUNTRIES?
Nope. Now you know the next step.
You know, as they continue white genocide, incite minorities, and continue the economic collapse of the west.
The final stage is true global governance. Tower of Babylon shit.
Seems that this has been a goal for the upper elite since day one.
Nathan Nelson
>Now let's work on finding a real solution.
What exactly do you think a shit posting board can accomplish? Do you think you're at some kinda rebel base and you're gonna be some revolutionary hero? Come back down to earth.
Parker Roberts
This board is used to shitpost, laugh, meme, and learn in between all the feces flying.
Fleshing out ideas and solutions is more effective than bitching, if anything for those with legitimate intellectual drives.
You act like discussing and learning is pointless. Very misinformed.
Luke Davis
Are you retarded? Yes they are. Trump is ready to go to war with Iran because Israel is crying about muhh missiles. They already have complete global power. The only chance white people have is war. Thats the only way white people will start acting in their own racial interests again, because they have to.
Hudson Hughes
>l-l-leave the banks alone!
Everyone hates the banks. There's a reason the rhetoric of "the bankers the bonuses" became a meme on Question Time. Attacking the banks directly would likely get you massive support.
Thomas Stewart
Also, keep in mind if you are trying to engineer a global collapse to welcome increased international subjugation, you have to own the schools, chruches, and media.
Why else would they be wasting their time for all this? They have a tangible, insane goal. And it's not just Jews - countless Goyim either aware or unwitting pawns have participated for centuries.
People do things because they have goals. Even if you sit on a computer chair and shitpost all day, you're doing it for a reason.
It's what drives us.
Christian Sullivan
>culture is all that matters! >we can't fight for our racial survival, we have to just give up KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING JEW
Luke Butler
Being that banks have been with us for half a thousand years plus, they are not going anywhere, anytime soon.
If people running them weren't so stonebent on controlling the world, they would serve a purpose. If they were nationalized and not private, serving the purposes of the people rather than trying to extra every last penny from them, they would be effectively useful.
If usury was not the norm, they would serve a purpose.
Refine what you have, rather than start back in the caveman days again.
You sound like a marxist 2bh. Instead of "proletariat" you use "white people". It's pretty dumb desu and you will be proven wrong, just like how Marx was proven wrong during WW1.
Easton Hughes
Anyone that says "race war is off the table, you can't advocate for your own white race" is just trying to demoralize and divide us.
OP is a Jewish faggot and I wish he would gargle razorblades instead of posting his bullshit threads.
Dear OP, please unironically KILL YOURSELF.
Joshua Parker
Fight for your racial survival and get blown the fuck out.
White people are the largest minority on the planet, and their birth rates will NOT be able to reverse the trend.
So just sit there and rage, it's not going to change reality.
Jayden Hughes
I didn't say you can't advocate for your own race, fuckwad. I said the complete opposite.
You can do this without openly genociding everyone else you share the continent with, too.
Levi Sanders
Its funny how this stuff is starting up now that the liberals are BTFO and losing power. Its as if (((they))) are trying to co-opt kek and the hivemind to maintain control over said power.
Regardless of civic or ethno nationalism, we cannot allow these parasites to latch on yet again to push us into become the exact same things as the "progressive" liberals are. (((They))) seek to destroy us and will use any means necessary to do so, all the while corrupting everything they touch like a blight.
Zachary Sanchez
> pic > oy wey, vote for us, we will do everything you want, just constantly declare and do everything opposite
You know, sure Bible says "you will know them by their fruit". And your fruit is not hidden in any way. It`s crime, poverty, anglo cocksucking and killing Russians and screaming that Russians are not white (because anglo is afraid of the reckoning for bolshevism).
> race war is off the table As racist is a code word for white, race war is now a code word for self defence.
You need to take your gun and shoot in your chin.
Charles Green
>Legitimate intellectual drive >Sup Forums
Pick one.
Eli Williams
You know full well that voter ID, immigration restriction, and all of the things mentioned by the "successful" guy in your shitty cartoon are already permanently labeled as racist, xenophobic, Eurocentric, minority-vote-suppressing policies by leftists (who have thoroughly influenced the politically illiterate masses). This concept has fully infiltrated the minds of left-sympathising people of all races in the US and abroad to the point that what you suggest is absolutely impossible to implement quickly enough to stem the brown tide, even if you managed to pass a few laws in a few states. Trump is at war with democrats, a few cities, and a few STATES because of his MODERATE proposals. A large part of why trump won was because people couldn't vote for their favorite ex-commie Bernie and because they did like Hillary. Any and all republicans/conservatives have ultimately been labeled as racist or closeted racist or as racist dog whistlers. Romney, Jeb!, whoever you pick. Even if they don't label them as such, the leftists say that there is disproportionate impact on minorities and thus have a reason to rally against "racism". You absolutely cannot win over leftist-subverted whites (or non-whites, for that matter) like that.
Furthermore, genetics cannot he ignored. Your post half tries to court genetic realists and then tries to abruptly switches to an "anti-racist" standpoint.
Poor post, but got me to reply. 2/10, before seeing video (I'll watch it now, though I severely doubt it argues much better than you do).
Xavier Lewis
Getting kind of tired of you kikes trying co-opt Sup Forums. This Civic Nationalism needs to go, its dressed up patriotic marxism
Ayden Rodriguez
Dude, you're so fucking lost.
I've been here awhile. I gave Kek energy just as much as you and countless others here.
I'm a white guy trying to find a realistic solution. Embracing European heritage and pride is fantastic, and it's sad our people have been cucked so bad.
It needs a resurgence. A resurgence that doesn't need to advocate for a race war it won't ultimately win.
There doesn't need to be a race war, anyway. A massive cultural overhaul of the country in embracing Hitler's nationalism American-style would change everything.
It's unfortunate you've allowed yourself to be manipulated enough to judge people purely on the negative experiences you've had, witnessed, or heard about.
If you had real life experience meeting a diverse cast of individuals you'd realize that while most people are shit right now, there are really good ones.
White ones, black ones, etc. that do NOT subscribe to this liberal bullshit that has been bomblasting the media as of late.
Making extra enemies out of potentially strong allies is very self-defeatist, desu.
Jack Baker
You shill are the first to go.
Xavier Brooks
>a new brand of ethno-nationalism that can embrace the American identity as that of most importance
What I see in the future is a synthesis of both ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. This is due to human genetic engineering. Immigrants would be expected not to only adopt the customs of their host population, but also the genomes. Add in the free market and the most optimal of genes will have the highest demand. This would reverse our current dysgenic policies that subsidize the children of those least genetically fit.
This result allows the best of both worlds, high-iq immigrants can be accepted and integrated into the society, but the society itself remains high trust and cohesive due to genetic similarities.
Juan Morris
Exactly, you can unite people if they don't share the same skin color at least.
Julian Edwards
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. I'll address the rest after a smoke but watch the two videos and get back to me, eh?
There are countless ones of these, all on youtube for your viewing pleasure.
Don't get swallowed up in the one-line path of thinking just because we have our backs against the wall and the Zionists are manipulating gullible sheep into despising us.
Aiden Clark
Many of these people are idiots, or shills, you in fact speak to a future which I predict.
I also strongly believe that the whole promotion of race war and racial differences is a troll tactic designed to divide and conquer, and that American values can serve to unite people in overcoming the true powers of imperialistic globalist capitalist international greed and selfishness
Gabriel Price
deep prediction bro
Carson Allen
ITT USAmericans try to help everyone forget that they've been 12% black for centuries while Europe is struggling to handle a few million darker bros arriving. All this nazi Nordcuck stuff gets more stupid by the day, Americans shoot and kill each other over parking spaces because they are niggers.
Dylan Ortiz
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Ethan Ward
Hey niggers and Spics; America #1 amirite? - Hola dolla ,gibsmedat welfare cracker
Nice plan you got there
Austin Reyes
I already heard the beginning. "This is why you lost zEDS I already know that. We know why trump won. A trump is not what I'm looking for. Your videos are a circle jerk for civic nationalists. I'm not going to re-argue genetics, a subject thoroughly covered by pol, on my phone 10 minutes before my break ends.
Carson Torres
if hue niggers can kill 100+ in 4 days I can kill 100,000 in a day.
>It might be stupid immoral and genocidal but it is certainly possible, Not that i am pushing for it but you are pushing me to it.
Why don't you just shut up ?
Henry Allen
siesta at 14.30; hang on mate
Xavier Hill
You're retarded, liberals spics and Niggers already see "civic nationalists" as white nationalists That's why they go out in the street and beat trump supporters up The civil war is inevitable, white genocide is real If you don't think political partisanship is getting worse then just take a look around you Democrats are leaderless, they are an animal backed into a corner, nothing left to lose. They are doubling down and plotting against us as we divide ourselves Once a group gets the guts to cause a minor attack it will spark a major reaction, not from the right, but the left will join in hoards for their cause This will be their last chance to reclaim what was their diverse libAmerica Right now the right is fat and lazy, we sit on our spoils and expect the libs to follow the law that's why you don't see trump supporters publicly lynching antifa for their many crimes People like you are hindering the process, showing it down, don't ever think that it's just the leftys who want this war, once it kicks off, the great cleansing will happen And when it happens, it's us or them
Jayden Hill
Are you illiterate, an idiot, or just a shill? I never said anything about a race war at all and nor did I imply it. Did you read anything in that post? I think its you who are lost.
I'm saying its funny that now there is all this pandering towards what is almost a conservative version of multiculturalism. Its as if the globalists, the parasites, who ended up on the losing side of the spectrum in the past year, are now trying to shift over to the other side to keep themselves in power. (((They))) see power and they want it to be theirs, it doesn't matter where it comes from or how its generated, only that its theirs and that it furthers their goals. What is being set up now is the divide between the ethnic and civic nationalist, which will fuel political discourse in the future and give these greedy fucks the platform they need to continue and thrive while keeping the racial division aspects of it very much alive and well.
Its very self-defeatist to embrace the very same parasites that, for the past 30 or so years, were trying to cause harm with leftist "progressive" propaganda, desu-nee-san-fan-llama-ran-man. Having them create right-wing propaganda in the same vein while they coalesce their power structure on the other side of the spectrum will only continue what they started. Keep that in mind.
Gabriel Ramirez
really made me think
Jace Lewis
When are you going to realize that the biggest problem is class? The biggest red pill is that you will never be able to do anything about it. A few will always have more than others and they will treat those who have less like shit. There must always be a rich king.
OP's message aside, the guy in that video speaks very well.
Luis Cruz
You're preaching to the choir with the genetics. I'm well aware. Pic-related.
Instead of obsessing it, we acknowledge it, acknowledge how different races will react to different things, and then address the problems. We don't force people to do things or put up with shit in the public sphere that divide and conquer.
Does this mean free speech will have to be curtailed or turned into something altogether? Quite possibly. If I recall correctly Nazi Germany did not even have free speech (and who could blame them, after the Jews and commies did their bullshit inciting the German civil war post WW1).
No, we can't do that with the zionist/liberal control of media and publication right now. If they are able to be removed from power, then this must be the motivator to replace it.
Jeremiah Walker
Yeah, he really does.
Hence why the OP.
Outright race war will kill people like this guy. That's a loss for humanity.
It's a one-track mindset that pollack faggots too angry and blinded by the current situation are choosing to ignore.
Julian Price
And? Class will exist as long as governments exist. Governments exist as long as humans want to advance behind being an exclusively agrarian society with no guarantee they will have avenues for their personal property to be protected under some form of law (this doesn't apply to failed or failing states, of course. They're already gone).
Robert Fisher
Are the people in the OP video parasites? Is Big Joe a parasite?
You're lumping all your enemies into one group because the real enemy has manipulated us all to do so.
America is the only western country in the world that could use its multi-racial makeup for progress rather than division.
It starts with not swallowing the Jew-fed race war pill. They'd like us all to kill each other off.
Makes their job for the next phase all that much easier.
Nicholas Baker
Cool.
And when white people overthrow the system and kick all the other ethnic groups out of America, they will collapse because they won't have the population, manpower, or resources to continue on.
The population race is already over, bro. It's a hard pill to swallow but it is what it is. The next phase should be about ensuring white survival, wouldn't you say?
This is how you do it.
It ain't the 1800's anymore. Time has moved on and the world and geopolitical landscape have changed drastically since then.
Running on emotions rather than logic is suicide.
Adam Taylor
I actually largely agree with you. Race war was always a pretty embarrassing, somewhat forced, meme. It probably isn't going to happen in America now that you have Trump, happily, although here in Europe a war fought along racial and religious lines seems more than likely. I give France 2-3 years, unless Le Pen gets in and saves the French from that fate much like Trump has the US.
Ethan Taylor
I wouldn't say that it won't happen here. The media arm is pushing into high gear and still driving the narrative along.
It'll be up to Americans not to fall for it, but by the looks of it we are biting the bait hook, line, and sinker.
Chase Richardson
America was relatively a lot stronger in 1965 (when it was 90% white with about 5% of its population foreign born) than it is now.
As for Big Joe etc - this is bigger than any one single person. Putting fee fees ahead of the actual situation kinda got all of the west on the brink of destruction in the first place.
Jason Kelly
Top Kek, what? You think that every single job and workplace is just gonna be left untouched by a fucking civil war?
Sebastian Anderson
We'll keep the legals and blacks, all the muslims are still going to leave or die.
Michael Jackson
Not at all. You make another good point how improbable it would be for whites to simply pick up and move on if a violent civil war edging on genocide occurred.
Hence why it isn't a feasible solution. I'm thoroughly convinced the pollacks advocating for it unironically really don't know how to plan their world five minutes from now, let alone five years.
Even "real" Nazis that advocate for this shit are outright cucks and not even following in line with non-mainstream-stewed Nazi ideology.
Hitler never preached mass genocide (and no, the Holocaust did not happen as is widely plunged down the world's throats), because he wasn't a fucking moron.
Nathan Gomez
So smart, contributing, and caring individuals that wish to devote themselves to their families, communities, and countries are going to have to get the axe because some ignorant gorillas are terrorizing Trump supporters?
I wish someone told me this personally: get the fuck over yourself.
These assholes causing social instability do not get a free pass of any kind. But this mass labeling of death is the same "sins of the father" shit that has held us back for so, so long.
David Nguyen
Terrorizing Trump supporters is just the start. You can't just ignore thousands of years of how civilizations and great nations came to be and fell just because of your feelings. It always comes down to us vs them in the end and if you are too cowardly to make a stand then your children or their children will have to with much worse odds.
Btw it doesn't have to be race war just yet, mass deportations can still work.
Michael Nguyen
Tell me what taking a stand is.
Please. The white population is on an irreversible decline. We are 10% of the entire planet, and that's it.
What stand are you talking about? One that can buy years, maybe decades of time before crashing down?
Mass deportations of illegal and taxpayer-freeloading individuals are an amazing start. Mass deportations based purely on race or religion will only cause a civil war to spring up overnight.
The only way to avoid both issues is if nationalism was more important to the citizens of this country than their ancestries or the way they looked.
