Not sure if this is really on topic but I didnt know who else to ask.
So basically I feel like to should see a therapist for a few reasons, mainly involving paranoia and anxiety.
The problem is Im worried the doctor would just brainwash me to love the ZOG.
Any 'crazy' Sup Forumsacks got some advice for me?
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Psychoanalysis is a Jewish trick and it influenced the Frankfurt School.
Psychiatry isn't.
Whats the difference? Wouldnt a psychiatrist psychoanalyse me?
You should join up with the Scientologists. They fucking hate that shit. Easier to control their slaves that way.
Isnt scientology just a cult of psychiatrists?
All about preventing oppresive opinions
Is it worth studying a non-STEM subject like psychology at college?
for fun and personal enrichment, yes, for financial enrichment, no
I saw a female psychologist years ago and they talk the most blue-pill, feminist shit ive ever heard. If you so much as question anything they say they get flustered and cant compute that shit. Left totally unsatisfied and more fucked up than before i went in.
In the end i took the red-pill and got over my problems myself.
Never swallow the pshycology pill, not even once.
>Not even a Littmann
Why would he need a stethoscope?
Sure. My BIL has a masters in it and worked for 15 years in the field.
He buys his kids used clothing because that's all he can afford.
Im worried if I start talking about the things that worry me I'll get a medical order to take away my computer and they will find Sup Forums
I just looked for doctor stock images and chose the one with the most merchantile features
Dianetics was rejected by psychiatrists when they tried to push it so scientology has labelled it fucking xenu.
that said, i've seen multiple shrinks and they're all fucking kikes.
>paranoid and anxious
>paraniod therapist will brainwash you
What did you guys do instead of therapy?
>Isnt scientology just a cult of psychiatrists
Yes, in that they use psychology to to break down and manipulate their members. However, going to an actual psychologist or using any medication is strictly forbidden in their religion. Why pay a real doctor when you can just use your "religion" as the ultimate "cure" for everything, all while keeping the member in a vulnerable, controllable, dependent state.
I'm aware of the irony.
I dont know if my feelings are unfounded is the problem
Yeah, I've seen the Louis Theroux documentaries on it.
Just sci-fi religion
Psychology is, at the very best, a really soft social "science" that produces nothing of value. Clearly the tendrils of jewry extend through it and use its authoritative bodies to promote degeneracy.
Overall it is mostly worthless. The best thing to do with the truly insane is to lock them up for life, and people figured out that a long time ago.
But what about the less insane
Like what is the step down from locking them up?
This is gonna sound like a meme, but meth.3 years clean, but thats unrelated mostly.
I was forced to see several when I was a minor for depression (which i don't think is a real thing) and self harm (which I stopped when I turned 16). Around 17 I got smart enough to just not bitch about my problems.
I'm not saying I found the RIGHT answer. I'm just saying that my multiple attempts, both forced on me and genuine, to "get better" via shrink were complete failures. Even had one flat out tell me she didn't care if I talked or felt better after a session because she gets paid either way.
Theres nothing a therapist has provided me that I can't get for free online.
mentaldisorderfag here
Used to have severe panic attacks, depression and generalized anxiety disorder. Still kinda have, I guess, but not so much anymore.
Been to psychiatrists, taken antidepressants and been to psychologists.
I think we need all of this, and it's not a jewish trick. I mean, people used to go to church or turn to pastors for mentoring or guidance with discrete personal problems, but since we are all atheists now, psychology is the closest you can get to that.
Although I have learned to see right through psychologist tactics
>tell me how do you get along with your parents user
>...and how does it make you feel?
>do you have friends user
>...and how does it make you feel?
>are you social user
>...and how does it make you feel?
>do you do drugs user?
>QUIT IT NAO part of the problem
>heres couple of practices to lower your stress
>start being more social
>quit drugs
>...and how does it make you feel?
>...and how does it make you feel?
>session ovar gibs 15 euros pls
This stuff becomes so boring and repetitive over time (I doubt they are even listening to you, rather thinking of a next question) that I unironically decided to read the bible and maybe become a christian, since it's somehow more helpful than average visit to psychiatrist/psychologist
>Just sci-fi religion
It's much worse than that. It is pure, absolute exploitation. At least the pope actually believes in God. David Miscavaige and L. Ron Hubbard know it's all bullshit and just use it to gain power and money from morons.
So you think its good, but after so long you've become jaded from it all?
Lifting and eating healthy are the two main things. The rest follows after you start giving yourself a reason to feel good about yourself. Also, never put women on a pedestal. It took me a while to realise that a lot of my problems were women related. When i realised that modern women are largely not worth dealing with I found myself becoming a lot more stable.
Also, dont do drugs. The ocassional drink is fine when out with friends, but quit the weed.
Can't the study of the human mind be beneficial to society when not being used to push a political agenda?
t. Red-pilled psych student
send them to university
Basically, if you have depression ir anxiety or any of these minor things the answer is at least 2-fold:
1) exercise and nutrition, you likely have shit in both regards, and improving both will help your mental health immensely if not cure you outright, you need plenty if vitamin D and lift weights to improve test levels, doing those two things alone will do a lot for you
2) Cognitive Behavioral Therapy - the "new" therapy that is very effective for pretty much everything, but it existed for thousands of years because it is basically immitating what prayer does; yes cbt is essentially secular prayer
im on celexa and its awesome and improved my life so
Sorry I was too much rambling, my opinion in short is that it helps you, yeah it's better than not going, but only up to the certain point, since the advice they give you is too much "one-size-fits-all" but it feels special just because they look into your eyes and say it to you profoundly.
I am not talking about paranoid schizophrenics here, of course those loonies need psychiatry, I mean your typical depressed/anxious western white male.
>Lifting and eating healthy
These are on my list just now
>women
Yeah thats not an issue, but sound advice
>drugs
Ive stopped any regular use, drink pretty regularly to slow my head down a little. Smoke weed once every 1-2 months
most of these docters are idiots, you could easily manipulate them.
I've seen both male and female ones.
It's mostly "do whatever you want" enabling bullshit and getting a straight answer is like pulling teeth.
I did have one exception: a private guy who specialized in marriage counseling.
He actually seems to be about finding and solving problems instead of enabling them. I assume that in his piece of the industry you have to do that.
I ended up doing the same as you and finding my own solutions.
I got some mild pills for anxiety, quit drinking and watching porn and got into shape. I did several of the redpilled self improvement stuff. By redpilled I mean "honest, no nonsense" not necessarily right-wing as it's sometimes used here.
And tbqh learning that a lot of the media news and entertainment I see is bullshit meant to make me feel like shit helped too.
psychiatrist woudl give you a pills
No its okay I appreciate you taking the time.
Now time to spend the next decade getting in touch with the NHS..
Im going to study criminology at college in the autumn actually.
Look into buddhism and mastering the mind.
Meditation helps you realize a calm state and allows you to calmly think about your issues.
From there you are supposed to conduct easy, yet somewhat challenging, objectives to eventually overcome your issues.
Psychologists just tell you what you are already supposed to know about yourself. They just use different terms to pinpoint specific conditions so they can write you a prescription.
tfw second day on SSRI
i feel strange
Psychoanalyst tries to help you by telling you that you're gay
Psychiatrist helps you by giving you the meds that have helped many like you before
>pills
From what I've heard dont these just make you into a robot? Just keep you average all the time?
Psychology might be considered Jewish but studying it ain't useless I studied social psychology because I was interested in propaganda,it's like studying marketing but in a more scientific approach, most of the academia nowa days of course is Marxist bulls hit that doesn't read the iq tests and simply ignored the data it should be actually be the one red pilled study with medicine.
The guy that introduced psychology in my university (it's first dean)was a division azul veteran who fought the commies as a volunteer with the nazis so it use to be red pilled studies but that was even before I was born(still found some old aged right winger profesors although they where retarded)
how?
Can you describe it?
Meditation always fucks me up because it just gives my mind time to wander.
>Psychoanalyst tries to help you by telling you that you're gay
Unsurprisingly the mentally ill OP already knew this
Sure but I would think neuroscientists will be at the head of that in this age.
>2) Cognitive Behavioral Therapy - the "new" therapy that is very effective for pretty much everything, but it existed for thousands of years because it is basically immitating what prayer does; yes cbt is essentially secular prayer
I tried CBT for a while and it didn't really help with my issues, nightmares and intense guilt, mostly because I logically knew that those things weren't deserved, but I could never believe it. After words I switched to DBT and Eye movement desensitization stuff and that only made the nightmares worse. Eventually I tried a medication called Prazosin and that has worked for my nightmares. I feel a lot better now that I don't have to see that face every night.
Just stop thinking about it and a month or two later you'll have a eureka moment where you realize subtle things about you are different in a positive way.
For me, it took the edge off of social interaction and confrontation; made customer service at my job a lot less grueling. Don't skip a dose for more than a day on accident or you'll regret it.
The field has become over-saturated in self-help hippy liberalism to the point that the entire field is buzz-feed. "7 ways happiness makes you happy".
There are some gems in psychology. Uses for understanding how peoples minds work, capable of pulling off MKultra type shit, brainwashing, relaxing people or causing them unnerving terror.
Unfortunately, you have to filter through 17 tonnes of liberal shit to find these gems, and even then, it's only bits and pieces that you have to put together and figure out how it would be applicable.
Psychology is a psy op designated to distract from the occult.
The truth of human psyche lies in understanding the occult.
>The problem is Im worried the doctor would just brainwash me to love the ZOG.
You sound pretty paranoid. That alone is good reason for seeking help.
Just allow yourself to benefit from it and ignore any real or imagined political indoctrination. You do it every time you turn on the media. Just use your filter.
t. schizo
Clinical psychology is mostly gay,at least in Spain I would consider it useless,for a normie it would be ok but a red pilled alpha trying to get his shit together with the advise of a beta cuck blue pilled hippie liberal who can't even understand real man problems?
Good luck with your estrogen levels, (they mostly make up for the priests giving some relief to tell your problems and an outside point and trying to help...)you could literally go to church
>>From what I've heard dont these just make you into a robot? Just keep you average all the time?
SSRIs definitely do. Some non-SSRI medications are helpful though. My old physician prescribed me Buspirone and it helped with anxiety somewhat.
Whoever says this just doesn't want to take their pills because they level them out. Antidepressants will not make you 'robotic' in any sense of the word, but heavier stuff like antipsychotics, lithium or even benzodiazepines can definitely do this to you.
Ofc nobody stops taking their Benzos because they make them fee 'robotic' ;)
Psychology in science is technically considered smoke and mirrors. There is no practical way to measure the outcomes.
But as a person that has seen psychological torture, there are many things about the human mind that are very easily influenced and tricked.
In fact free will should be considered a joke. Because you objectively are not your own self, but merely a collection of the people before you.
Like a man once said, " You can never kill an idea "
I dont know honestly Im just going off of what Ive heard other people say
>anxiety
let me guess, you didnt have a strong father figure, you have no vision / goals, or you dont act on your visions goals, anxiety just signals you that something is not right, you have to change your inner core and self-improve
>paranoia
the paranoia is a different thing, you should visit a doctor, just go to the best and you are good to go
That's the whole point.
You more then likely have subconscious ques that pop up because you have a wondering mind. I'm sure you have many distractions in your life.
>I dont know honestly Im just going off of what Ive heard other people say
I've been on low dosages of anti-psychotics before, but never SSRIs. My friends who've been on SSRI's talk about how awful they can make you feel.
Prazosin is a relatively new medication and has been absolutely phenomenal with some anxieties, nightmares, and PTSD; I've spoken with people who owe some amount of their livelihood to the relief they get from prazosin
No but I appreciate your skepticism.
There are some good and bad psychologists. Decide if you feel comfortable telling the person in front of you some dark shit, and if not find someone else.
Be wary of therapists that leave you with a hook at the end of each session to keep you coming back. It's a trick, and a damaging one.
My best advice is to not stay in it for too long. Otherwise it becomes an all-encompassing obsession and leads to a narcissistic view of others and the world around you.
In the short term, I agree with some of the others here in that it can help back you away from the edge of the cliff and reexamine your life from a different perspective though.
I am serious here user, give Christianity a chance. Find some christians on the internet, ask them about how could religion help you cope with your personal issues, and lend a bible from your local public library. Religion was what gave people strength to carry on for thousands of years, I think psychology is just a "scientific" attempt to recreate or imitate the same methods on the atheist basis.
I really can't explain this without spending many paragraphs but in short, something about religion really speaks to you on a deep level, even if you don't actually believe in creationism or that Jesus existed in real life. The metaphors and common sense wisdom hidden in Christianity helps to solve so many pointless open-ended dilemmas that modern nihilism and postmodernism has been encouraged in us.
Good luck!
Depending on what they are? Yeah.
Mine are pretty mild, I got them from my GP. I only went for them because I had extreme anxiety. To the point it felt like my skin was on fire and my mind would go blank when I spoke to people. Like stage fright but one on one.
The ones I'm on don't help with depression or other shit. Exercise did wonders there.
Yeah now that you mention it my anxiety makes a lot of sense. Im not exactly on a winning blaze through life at the moment.
>Chemically lobotimizing yourself
Shiggydig kurwa
How long did it take from you phoning to actually speaking to a doctor about your issues?
The idea of dealing with the NHS is almost worse than how I feel now
IF YOU ARE PARANOID OR ANXIOUS IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT RIGHT WITH GOD AND DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW IT. HERE IS SOME HARD BIBLE PREACHING TO GET YOU BACK ON TRACK:
psychology (sociology too) is a fake religion implemented by ((((satan)))) to lend credibility and literature to a scheme that has the singleminded objective of destroying the family, morality, uprightness and all elements of the social fabric that, by decree of the ALMIGHTY FATHER, prevent man from falling into unrelenting debauchery, sin, and debasement.
in short, it is a dogma that, for lack of a more relatable term, globalist trot out via their academic arm that states that left is right, right is wrong, there is no such thing as evil, that conservatism is dangerous, that fascism, nazism, totalitarianism are all right wing only, that "true" socialism has never been attempted, that mao, hitler, and stalin were capitalist republicans, that men must have their penises removed, and that the left, feminists, and marx are the only rational beings on the planet, obongo is intelligent, moshealle isn't a man, that hillary is honest, that amy schumer is gorgeous. that trans fetishism is brace and perfectly logical, and all that is right and true in the world and that one must never, ever trust one's lyin' eyes.
It is a Jewish trick.
If you are having mental problems:
0.5 (shouldn't even have to say this) get off all drugs. Prescriptions included.
1. Start eating right.
2. Lift and do cardio.
3. Make sure their is no black mold or other toxins in your habitat.
I don't doubt ssri's can make a certain person feel worse than before, but there are definitely more people helped by them than hurt.
>Prazosin is a relatively new medication and has been absolutely phenomenal with some anxieties, nightmares, and PTSD; I've spoken with people who owe some amount of their livelihood to the relief they get from prazosin
It really is. Before I was having nightly night terrors and sleeping paralysis involving my ex and being unable to help her with her sexually abusive family. She was also abusive to me so it lead to this weird fucked up shit with where I felt guilty about not being able to help her while also resenting her for threatening me into letting her cut me and other sexual abuse stuff.
I didn't want to give up and kill myself, but I also didn't want to live with those night terrors.
I recognise this guy from a holocaust denial vid.
Fucksake, leaf
Dryness in throad, tightness inchest, sometimes head pain
From psychological standpoint im freking out but i had these anxietes before, without any kind of meds. and when im not freaking out i feel kinda resigned
Well its still only 1/2 dose. Soon i will go to full pill.
better that fucking killing myself
I'm a Christian, but let me tell you; if you're schizophrenic, no amount of being right with God will cure your intense paranoia. Sorry.
>Dryness in throad, tightness inchest, sometimes head pain
I get that but I think its because I dont drink enough water
i think my friend that in my case it is not because not drinking enough water
>even if you don't actually believe in creationism or that Jesus existed in real life
Jesus was likely a real person. Anyone who doesn't think that is denying historical records, but issue with Christianity is that a lot of my childhood had been shit. In fact the vast majority of it was filled with pain. So the question I end up asking myself is, how could a God who created a world like this one be a good one?
That being said you are definitely right on Psychology being an imitation of spirituality.
Your post tells me you should indeed get some therapy. Reread it and see how retarded you are.
No no I was just kidding
But I understand the sensation, I imagine if you felt that way without cause it would be a strange feeling
About 3 work days. GPs are fast here.
A psychiatrist is a 6 month wait though.
This is another place where exercise really helps while you wait. Can't be anxious and paranoid if you are doing something that takes all your concentration.
I find psychology pretty neat. I don't really care about the clinical aspect to but I took courses on personality, stress and leadership. It's fascinating what people theorize on why people do what they do.
It terms of financial gain its useless though.
Psychiatry is pseudoscience. It is literally Jewish bullshit.
Also, anxiety is only caused by two things:
> a lack of information (eg, fear of the unknown)
> a lack of resources (time, money etc)
Do not see a psychiatrist. They have no incentive to see you get better. They will even detain and imprison you 'for your own safety' if they feel that you're trying to leave as a customer and stop taking the snake oil pills they peddle.
Psychiatry doesn't help people.
t. Someone who makes a living trying to help victims of psychiatry.
Freud is a quack jew who set back Psychology 50 years. Pavlov and Skinner are still the most prolific Psychologists to date.
Psychology will be a proper science one day, should it be allowed to grow properly and be utilized in he proper ways. Applied Psychology and Psychometrics are completely legitimate avenues that yield objective truths and facts based on emperical research.
As is, it's still a fledgling science, a soft science, a pseudo science.
Sorry, but mental illness exists. I have to say that I chuckled at your statement about black mold. I bet you believe in homeopathy and other 90'S new age garbage.
But yes, exercise is good!
> 6 month wait
Fucking end me
+Know wthis, if someone reads this and wont seek professional help and kill himself in result - its on you
Psychiatry is, not psychology
Kill yourself retard
This. Also, for a side note, nihilism is a cancer. It ruins lives really quickly and the nihilist continues being self-loathing and hedonistic.
therapists are way faster to get visits with, well the non-addictive ones are anyway. I guess it's because they don't have all the good pills.
Psychology is classed as a "soft science". Look up the difference.
Basically Psychologists can say what the fuck they want without ever having any hard evidence to prove their claims.
It's the equivalent of a computer scientist saying that computers run faster if you talk gently to them and then backs up his argument with 100 people who have said that it works. That is literally Psychology.
What about psychrometer?
Don't be fooled by the similarity of names.
If you want an actual answer, psychoanalysis is a specific theory of personality by Freud which pretty much said humans are driven by their unconscious and sex. Most modern psychologists find his theories very outdated.
Kind of like the difference between astronomy and astrology or Java and Javascript.
Fun fact: psychiatric intervention (especially hospitalisation) is the single biggest risk factor for suicide.
Statistically people will live longer without seeing a psychiatrist.
>+Know wthis, if someone reads this and wont seek professional help and kill himself in result - its on you
He wouldn't be held accountable so for all intents and purposes it wouldn't be on him. It being on him is just what you tell yourself for the hope that some cosmic sense of good and evil will punish the evil for their deeds.
Such things don't happen in real life. You should know that by now.
I don't know how Jewish it is, but psychology and psychiatry are literally pseudoscience and a waste of money.
Of course that there wont be any lighting bolt hitting him.
Im talking purely about moral responsibility.
>how could a God who created a world like this one be a good one?
God knows you can bear the pressure that others couldn't, so he allowed you to endure the humiliation which, once you overcome it, makes you a stronger person than any one of your peers.
take it from me, I used to be socially awkward nerd who was bullied in school
The most important trick is that even if you feel painful, so be it, but never give up on taking new risks and chances, one day you'll be lucky, and when you do, you will thrive, since you have endured what would crush the others.
For example, I got my first gf for a short while in 12th grade, lost virginity and suddenly, the bullies stopped bullying me. I mean, I am not a success story, I am kinda lonely and work a desk job now and browse Sup Forums 15 hours a day, but still, it rings so true that even if you are having really shitty times, you sometimes really strike gold with something, as long as you don't give up.
>Like someone? Talk to them
>See a job opening? Apply
>Notice an interesting event in your college campus? Apply to it
>Feel bored? Travel somewhere alone or do something crazy
>Friend makes you buttmad? Let them know
You don't have to even love yourself or feel happy. Sometimes you gotta just fake it till you make it. Sometimes you just need to talk someone. Whatever helps.
And so much of modern psychology is built on those theories that every modern psychologist has to reject, or risk not being taken seriously. Psychology is an absolute mess from every angle.
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Correlation doesn't equal causation... cute nonetheless though.
Psychology is a field of guessing game with few teenager's dating shittests mashed up with prejudicement and overanalyzing.
Go if you want to talk to human beign who will listen you for hours just because of they joy of dominance and morbid curiosity of downs of your life.
Of course it is. Good thing is you can use it against them. You can use it to analyze them and come up with countermeasures to their jewy shenanigans.
So yeah, don't see that (((shrink))).