Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
>his threads never hit the bump limit >he keeps posting them knowing he'll get ridiculed SAD!
Jaxson Smith
remember is bad to eat your children
Ayden Lee
Why do you defend the bourgeoisie ?
Adrian Martinez
Ahahahahahahahahahhaha! You are just a puppet man, there is no revolution, there is ideology.
Julian Butler
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Lucas Collins
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Nolan Sanchez
Finally, a general to cater to my political beliefs, thanks OP
Leo Cook
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Ryan Myers
You are the bourgeoisie. The workers fucking hate your kind and you're too stupid to see it.
Nathan Flores
hello sad loser who is a useful idiot for the illuminati who plan on destroying world religions and governments purely for the desire of their jew banker overlords
Nathan Morales
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Matthew Edwards
No, I don't privately own means of production.
Nolan Perez
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Gavin Johnson
not this faggit again....
Daniel Walker
Would you like a free helicopter ride, Komrade?
Lincoln Stewart
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Anthony Cruz
That's cool. Stay the fuck away from my property you goddamn commie.
Jackson Price
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Mason Reed
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Carson Reed
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Luke Richardson
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Christian Price
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Sebastian Jackson
Fuck off and take your absolute festering cancer of an ideology with you.
You took more than half the human population under your wing for decades and play denialist when you brought slaughter and poverty to millions, actively tried to annihilate faith and culture and to this day live on in foul cultural marxism.
Get thee gone spawn of Moloch.
Asher Lewis
Stalin would have executed you so hard
Blake White
What about Gaddafis version? His worked out quite nice until he got bombed to shit for it.
Samuel Myers
fuck off you cunt stop posting this shit
Samuel Cruz
comrade help! I tried doing revolution, got arrested trying to steal, murder and terrorize counterrevolutionaries just like the good manifesto says and while on trial I explained everything there is to know about communism to the judge but they sentenced me anyway!!! wat do?
Jacob Evans
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Leo Carter
The scariest dystopia imaginable
Kevin Turner
>Red Terror >Lenin's hanging orders >The doctors plot >Night of murdered poets >Holodomor >Decossackization >Dekulakization >The great purge
Communist genocide of the Cossacks is never brought up or discussed. Probably because they aren't jews
Aaron Foster
Daily reminder this is how a commiecuck looks like.
Evan Wright
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Jonathan Gonzalez
One of the biggest red pills I ever took was when I started researching the horrors of the Soviet Union, not some ignorance that led to multi-millions more dying by accident than by design, but also a clear and eager evil that relished in to torments it could get away with unpunished.
The fact that the modern audience has no clue of the horrors of what went on beyond the Iron Curtain, no movies, no stories, shows you how much sympathy Marxism still has in the arts, despite them being shot en-masse by authoritarians on high.
Nathan Sanchez
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Ayden Sanchez
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Landon Rodriguez
yes. I would argue its just a funny meme.
the left legitimately lionizes fidel castro though, and he is just as terrible if not worse.
fuck them all. dictators of any bent are awful, but don't pretend like its just right wingers that are guilty of playing down atrocities from political figures.
Landon Torres
And yet he was still a preferable alternative to communism
Grayson Long
I've been enjoying scaring off nazis lately. When you realize they are mostly socially inept basment dwellers it's really easy to manipulate them.
For the 'master race', they sure are a bunch of softies.
Kayden Ross
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Jordan Gray
whatever the case may be regarding your opposition, you must be aware that the vast majority of leftists are the ones subsisting on state or family gibs, seeing only injustice in their lack of self-actualization instead of introspectively coming to the logical conclusion that they are worthless and as such don't deserve being rewarded for their worthlessness where is the entitlement coming from?
Jacob Morris
That's some word salad you got there. Let me clean up your argument for you:
>lefties are welfare >they feel injustice because they aren't introspective >If they were they would realize they are worthless >Because they are worthless they shouldn't be rewarded
That is the most confusing "not an argument" I've seen yet. This is why you can't argue ideology.
Cooper Richardson
Your first premise is wrong. Millenials make up the largest work force and 53% are anti capitalist. What does that tell us?
Ethan Collins
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Leo Gutierrez
Nice digits
Communism isn't fit for purpose though, can only work on the small scale because even one dissident will shake it apart. Therefore politicide is necessary. Therefore it is unjust.
Juan Wilson
If any nazis need a fisting lmk.
Jesus Christ, the way you guys present yourself is so uneducated. Do you guys even read theory? No? What's the point of debating someone who knows better than you then?
I know stormfront got you under their wing because racism is an easy scapegoat for the many reasons you still live with your parents, but damn. It's really disappointing.
Did you know that the left have viable options for people in your situation? That we could fucking own an automated business and not have to work? That's right! You wouldn't have to work.
This is shit we can do, right now.
Jace Morris
If you collectively own an automated workplace there are not a lot of ways someone can mess it up.
Levi Brooks
Stalins Soviet Union is all you need to read about to hate communism forever.
Lincoln Morgan
-they didn't get the shit they thought they were entitled to by studying for meme degrees? -they lack foresight and ability to carve their own path that makes sense in their economic environment? -anti-capitalist is not the same as being opposed to gov't interventionist cronyism that redistributes wealth stolen from citizens to state budget users -anti-capitalist is not the same as being opposed to debt-based fiat currency that comes out of thin air and is accessible only to LIBOR cartel
Wouldn't have to work huh. What a stupid commie faggot dream.
Brayden Reyes
fuck off sleepynigger
Adam Ross
Yes of course it is not the same.
Could it be that they don't want to suck their bosses' dick to make a living wage? Capitalism, even pure capitalism, is exploitive by nature. It sucks all the resources to the top; we have seen this time and time again. I can go into further detail.
Are you an ancap? I'm happy to be talking to an ancap rather than a nazi.
Adrian Gutierrez
Lol is that literally your best? You realize nazis had pedo rings right?
I mean to each his own, but boy dick? Really?
Juan Watson
Hmm nazism will win am I roight gois?
Luis Long
This pisses me off, champagne socialists think that the working class exists only in factories.
Actually, whats your point?
Adam Adams
"Capitalism is just and it's the best humans can do because I have limited creative and practical thinking powers."
Brody Johnson
Yep
Jack Edwards
How do you know whether a good is worth its costs in a communist society?
Jeremiah Foster
"I don't understand the human need for hierarchy because I am autistic and can only formulate ideas based on black and white facts and numbers whilst ignoring the subjectivity of man's hopes and desires"
Jacob Bell
A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.
John Garcia
When I say the workplace I mean everywhere, not just factories. Right now it is possible to automate most workplaces.
So, if you automate those what do you do with the money? Under the current system it goes to the people that own it, a handful. Under a co-op it would go to everyone that used to work there.
Would you rather have one guy filthy rich or everyone fed and sheltered? Depending on a lot, we coild even have luxury lives.
Ayden Long
I'm talking to a lot of people so a post might not be directed at you.
Why do you think there is a need for heirarchy?
Brayden Robinson
>Hello Comrades
kys
Only good commie is a dead one
egas
Jace Roberts
So you guys just pop in here until you start being bullied and then disappear?
Man high school must have been hard. Remember, girls like commies.
Joseph Anderson
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Julian Stewart
This moment in history is brought to you by fascist Italy.
Mussolini, Mussolini, are-a meatballas are to spicey for da jewas!
Logan Smith
"I am narrow-minded enough to ignore the fact that the only system without a hierarchy is anarchy which isn't a system anyway" I would like robots to be our communist leaders myself
Gabriel Campbell
Look up Marx's ridiculous idea of labour theory of value, that's a good start. Also communism is the final form of his materialistic theory of history, which hasn't happened. He said capitalism would destroy itself and then socialism would come about then the angelic commie leader would let the state 'wither away' (lel tell that to Stalin) and end up with a classless and moneyless society. Utter utter garbage from a sully faggot who never worked in his life and pranced about Europe writing his badly thought out SciFi theories while being funded by a sugar daddy so he could live.
Of all the young hegalians Max stirner made the most sense.
Marx must have been seriously high to believe his own shit
Read the ego and it's own
Marx got btfo by Max
Max Stirner said it best A state is illegitimate when even one person doesn't want to be a part of it anymore, and thus cannot exist. When a bunch of selfish dicks ally with other selfish dicks by their own free will is the only kind of 'state' that should exist. If you don't want to be a part of a system, you shouldn't be forced to, and that system can set out to do whatever it wants, because only might makes right and morals are illusions made up by high society.
He used to hang out with Marx and Engels until he called out Marx as a hypocrite because his 'revolution' is just one state succeeding the other, which made Marx butthurt enough that he wrote a 100 page essay on why he thinks Stirner is wrong.
A essay he hid and never published while Max was alive probably because he knew he didn't refute him.
Hudson Clark
>a communist economic system is called a failure leading to starvation.
Jayden Ward
Its not a matter of whether I think we should have hierarchy - it is hardwired into the species. Show me the most backwards african tribe you can find and I will show you the Chieftain. Show me a communist society and I'll show you the Dear Leader.
I'm an electrician, how do you think you could automate my job?
Anthony Cook
All that would happen in anarchy is the eventual creation of hierarchy.
Liam James
>So you guys just pop in here until you start being bullied and then disappear? Projection is most unbecoming >Man high school must have been hard. Remember, girls like commies. Proofs? A question begging epithet isn't a argument
"Should the Jew, with the aid of his Marxist creed, triumph over the people of this world, his Crown will be the funeral wreath of mankind, and this planet will once again follow its orbit through ether, without any human life on its surface, as it did millions of years ago" -t Hitler
KYS COMMIES
Chase Richardson
>Bro I'm not a marxist I just like bullying nazis. Sounds like your are so insecure that you force your spooks on others.
Why don't you go to places like Texas if you wanna bully Nazis?
Jaxson Parker
I have no beef with a book reader. Why is a stirner in a commie thread though?
But I swear to god, girls love the commie dick. Check out twitter, or I can tell you from personal anecdote.
If you come bearing freedom, of course the pussy is going to flock to you.
Anthony Carter
I do have a fuck ton of spooks, but that's the passionate choice I've chosen to live. Have you read from "The Individual"? :) That's going to be your test.
Isaac Rivera
>I have no beef with a book reader. Why is a stirner in a commie thread though? I fight spooks and communist are some of if not the biggest spooks >But I swear to god, girls love the commie dick. Check out twitter, or I can tell you from personal anecdote. So you have no proof? K >If you come bearing freedom, of course the pussy is going to flock to you. Define your interpretation of "freedom"
Mason Stewart
Second answer, I live next to a bunch of nazi groups already. It's all very spooky (other definition, ironically). They drive around in trucks and pretend to hit protestors with them.
Grayson Powell
>Have you read from "The Individual"? :) That's going to be your test. Have you taken your own advice? I don't force my own personal preferences on others then try to justify my actions.
Blake Hughes
Are you an idiot I just told you I have personal anecdotes. There is literally no reason for me to prove this for you. Being friendly is one way to get it out of me if you're really that interested.
Lincoln Morris
>Second answer, I live next to a bunch of nazi groups already. Proofs? I noticed you went from "Nazis" to "Nazi groups" who exactly are you putting labels on? >It's all very spooky (other definition, ironically). They drive around in trucks and pretend to hit protestors with them. Proofs?
James Campbell
Unless you are saying proof meaning a logical argument, no that's not how life works.
We could search for a poll, interview people, rely on anecdotes but that's about it.
Statements like girls love commie dick can't be proved in a logical way. It's not an argument.
Nathan Reed
Fuck off commie, haven't you killed enough people?
Benjamin Diaz
Jesus Christ I'm not going to prove it to you. Are you autistic?
Caleb Young
>Are you an idiot I just told you I have personal anecdotes. Are you? I told you a question begging epithet isn't a argument. >There is literally no reason for me to prove this for you. Damage control and grasping at straws? How predictable >Being friendly is one way to get it out of me if you're really that interested. You already admit you force your own preference's on others Define "friendly" Is being "friendly" accepting your spooks so you don't feel like your narrative is threatened?
John Rodriguez
>Jesus Christ I'm not going to prove it to you. Are you autistic? So you can't prove anything you say then attempt damage control while attacking my character(ad hoc) because I make you uncomfortable?
I'm not the one attacking people then trying to justify it.
John Martin
There's some social skills I need to talk to you about.
If you are on the spectrum I'll be nicer to you but damn dude you are unlikeable.
You have not realized that I'm not always making an argument.
Aaron Barnes
>Unless you are saying proof meaning a logical argument, no that's not how life works. Burden of proof definition 1. the obligation to prove one's assertion.
You made a lot of assertions then attempt question dodging and downplay how having to prove yourself isn't "how life works" Very spooky >We could search for a poll, interview people, rely on anecdotes but that's about it. So no proof? Got it >Statements like girls love commie dick can't be proved in a logical way. It's not an argument. Glad you admit it's not a argument and you can't prove anything you are asserting.
Nathaniel Perez
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that you are missing social cues that destroy a conversation if you do.
At this point there is so much implication missed and questions dropped that I have no idea where to take this.
Hudson Phillips
Can anyone tell me how communism is still what you think is a sound system when millions of people suffer and die under it every time it's largely established?
Liam Foster
I literally laughed out loud reading this. It's like I'm talking to the Spock's unlikeable cousin.
To make an assertion you don't have to have an argument. Did you even read past Hume?
Connor Thompson
>There's some social skills I need to talk to you about. Ad hominem already? Did I strike a nerve? >If you are on the spectrum I'll be nicer to you but damn dude you are unlikeable. Why? because I am calling you out on your bullshit? >You have not realized that I'm not always making an argument. Considering how you went from "just take my word for it" to "yeah, it's not a argument" you are grasping at straws
Asher Baker
There is knowledge that we get from the objects themselves, and knowledge that we derive from experience. This is pretty basic stuff.
When I say girls love commie dick, it is because I am a commie, and the girls love my dick. From experience, I know this. With others, they have noticed too, that becoming a commie made girls love their dick.
That's experiential knowledge.
Parker Lewis
>That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that you are missing social cues that destroy a conversation if you do. Proof? You are attempting question deflection from the original topic and trying to make yourself out to be a victim >At this point there is so much implication missed and questions dropped that I have no idea where to take this. I could say the same for you You ignored my previous questions Attacked my character And Attempt damage control
Pot calling the kettle black much?
Isaiah Thomas
>I literally laughed out loud reading this. It's like I'm talking to the Spock's unlikeable cousin. More ad hominem? Looks like you're getting frustrated >To make an assertion you don't have to have an argument. Notice, how in your previous posts you admit you don't have a argument Is your memory that short? Did you even read past Hume? Again, did you?
You're everywhere with your posts Mostly attempting damage control
