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卐 - NATSOC ECONOMICS EXPLAINED
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>One of the most plagued questions we get when talking about Fascism is economics, normally brought up by people still stuck in a liberal mentality and limited scope of perception, where everything is defined in term of social and economic policies, rather than principles derived from the notion of a singular Truth and Order that dominates the world. The variety of historic economic plans and practices maintained by various champions of our Struggle likewise distorts any comprehensive answer to the question. All in all we've simply answered people that economics are secondary, they don't matter in such a way as to be a fundamental and defining element of Fascism. The answer didn't change, however there is now a way in which we can describe this attitude to economics, and it's actually a word we've used repeatedly in reference to Fascism anyway: Socialism.
>Our Socialism, however, is not in of itself an economic system, it is not the Socialism of Marx and co and stands in direct opposition to both Communism and Capitalism. It would be more accurate to say that to Fascism, Socialism is the definitive social structure which is more comparable to the structures of Individualism and Collectivism, yet it stands in opposition to those two structures as well.
>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.” - Adolf Hitler 1938
Leo Smith
>anti-capitalism bluepill as fuck
kys
Levi Edwards
>visiting /leftypol/, seeing an endless list of literature >visiting /christian/, seeing an endless list of literature >visiting /natsoc/, seeing an endless list of youtube videos with emotional music kek are you even trying?
Bentley Gutierrez
> Communism: make nigger work (sounds good) > Capitalism: steal from working nigger (huh?) > NatSoc: make regular men work (cuck tier, why don't make niggers work, who will pay for them?) >
Jeremiah Parker
> Implying capital and bible more informative than some videos Cartoons are more real than this shit.
Thanks for all of these sources. Is freedom of speech compatible with national socialism?
Brayden Wood
proposition 23 of NSDAP
We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:
a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race; b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language; c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.
Cooper Sanders
for a quick rundown I suggest the 25 point plan of the NSDAP
Levi Smith
Thanks
Luke Morales
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 1) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))" Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang. NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state. The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset. In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology. ================================
Hudson Gray
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 2) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))" Thus, "socialism" in National Socialism was an appropriated, bastardized term from the perspective of the Left. NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism". Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938: >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.” >Hitler on democracy: youtube.com/watch?v=nNHtYzJ3L1Yyoutube.com /watch?v=RQVIeTLqgOw >Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel) ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf aryanism.net/politics/economics/
Juan Perez
Sieg heil!
Nathaniel Cook
>socialism is okay when only my ethnic group is involved
cancer
half of my county is 95% white and its still a destitute shithole because working class whites are only one up from pakis and wogs in terms of idleness
and yes i am whiter than you and more """""redpilled""""" too
William Watson
sieg heil, brother!
Leo Adams
half your country is 90% white? bummer ahmed I'm 100% with dna charts.
better unite before you're less than a fraction of a minority in britanistan.
Michael Hernandez
Why don't you want to share and work with your white brothers and sisters?
Benjamin James
>National Socialism name of political party: National Socialistic Workers Party name of system: Socialism
No such thing as National Socialism.
Benjamin Cruz
>owning guns >bashing the left Are you actually autistic?
Justin Howard
>national pride >socialism Pick one, faggots. Enjoy your global imperialism, while America heads out to the stars. You can keep this shitty rock, and rot on it.
Reminder National Socialists are for peace not violence, anyone that is for violence is an evil warmongerer enemy of the world, National Socialists are friends to the world.
Aiden Ramirez
All that we care about is our race and its socialism, nothing else bothers us.
Jace Wilson
oyvey what is this
Joseph Thompson
For the 4820347202th time, NatSoc isn't based on wealth redistribution and class struggle.
Oliver Anderson
It's based on caring for one another.
Luke Walker
Basically white persons political system. We are the only race with empathy.
Juan Hill
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Liam Lopez
Yes, we work for the interests of everyone, a truly national nation where poor helps rich and rich helps poor, and we are all part of one community with no classes.
Isaiah Hernandez
You know that that system will work only if we make laws that make women to get married till age 25 and not allow them vote till they have kids.
Parker Watson
>Posts useful idiots Thinks is smarter than everyone...
Justin Edwards
Remove any and all Jewish influence in the media and in public life, I will guarantee you that the productivity of whites will skyrocket.
And National Socialism isn\t based on classes of wealth distribution, it's about caring for each other so people are eager to work to shape a better society and future.
Samuel Cox
or wealth distribution*
Eli Reyes
Can someone explain why these threads make me productive and make me to hate NEET life?
Brody Scott
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Samuel King
redpill me on strasserism
John Anderson
The fire of the European peoples burns within you. It needs only a spark to light it.
Jace Foster
Your image suggests you lack a fundamental understanding of capitalism in general.
The fire rises, be ready brothers. Prepare yourselves.
Leo King
t. neoliberal kike
Jack Allen
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Brody Brown
>national socialism > 卐 - SMASH THE LEFT! >advocating for the redistribution of wealth, forcefully, through govt
Really made me think
Zachary Jones
>duh dats da way is should be wat r u some kind of commie da poor don't work hard enough
Gabriel Collins
Bump
Alexander Smith
if national socialism is so good why it never worked?
Luis Jones
Can someone explain the difference between fascism and national-socialism?
Eli Thompson
Heil hitler!
Jayden Perez
anti-semitism/ racial superiority for the most part
Tyler Nguyen
Because Italy was a dumbfuck in Greece
Eli Turner
Reminder that national socialism is still socialism and therefore degenerate.
Brody Evans
But Italy promoted racial laws against kikes and niggers as well
Jaxon Carter
Yes, but they cost the war for Hitler in Greece by delaying Operation Barbarossa for weeks. By the time Hitler launched the invasion of the Soviet Union, it was too late and winter set in before they reached Moscow.
National Socialism in the flavor of Fascism then never succeeded because the war was lost.
Joshua Long
Yeah it just seems like Maoism dressed up in SS uniforms
Even if it isn't a direct analogy with Maoism, it's hilarious to put "SMASH THE LEFT" in the OP when national socialism is by definition leftist economics
Christopher Scott
Leftist economics is where everything is forcibly collected and everyone receives the fruits of everyone's labor. National Socialism believes in the individual receiving the fruits of his labor but believes that the individual must also be ready to sacrifice his labor and life for the country. It's a Socialism on life.
Eli Thompson
So it's leftist economics with authoritarian sprinkles, as in, far left economics and far authoritarian policies, as in, the upper left quadrant of the 2D political compass
What keeps the government honest and keeps the civilians receiving the fruits of their labor?
Benjamin Torres
This.
Aiden Harris
He's trying to oversimplify it you yank
Ethan Ward
I'll clarify that I'm looking for understanding and not just trying to shitpost the thread, from what I can tell you look like decent rightwingers who got duped into giving up your free market, how am I wrong?
Nicholas Young
that was kinda because of hitler. mussolini had a surprisingly "liberal" view on the concept of race
Nicholas Richardson
Towards the end not really. Hitler influenced him.
Can anyone redpill me on the claims that Hitler was heavily involved/interested in the occult? Is that a jew meme to make him look like a worse goy or was he actually trying to harness esoteric powers to defeat them?
Julian Cook
natsocap aka national socio-capitalism.
Justin Ramirez
Hail victory
Hail ethnostates
Hail comeradery and dedication
Grayson Sullivan
Look hereReich of the Black Sun has some good read for any ocultism.
Nolan Campbell
Existence goes beyond mere economic needs being addressed but the preservation of race and nation and cultivating a culture that constantly adheres to those goals.
Xavier Johnson
Do you even understand that chart? Of course you don't.
Andrew Davis
Why are you not Nazbol yet
Austin Price
also loloolololololo the source, literally a Jewish Marxist
official statistics don't show such numbers
Julian King
So you advocate leftist economics because of your ideals? Sounds like every leftist ideology.
Can someone explain to me how National Socialism isn't leftist? Once you control the market, you are leftist.
Isaac Ross
they are gullible retards that got brainwashed into believing capitalism doesn't work with marxist charts of dubious veracity
Asher Sanders
because they're too fucking poor to pay any taxes. retard.
Nathaniel Brooks
Social left and Economic left are two different things, you can push for pseudo leftist economic policies while at the same time purging liberal degeneracy from your culture
Capitalism: People working for the owners of wealth with profits going to the owners of companies, driven by market demands and accentuated by conflict between labor and capitalists. •Marxist Socialism: People working for the good of everyone with profits (in a manner of speaking) shared by everyone who is working, driven by market demands. •National Socialism: People working for the good of the country with profits going to the owners of companies, driven by the needs of the state with all conflict between classes suppressed by a heavy-handed state.
TL;DR National "Socialism" does not seize the means of production for the sake of equality and class abolition.
James Hill
>this Thanks man, I almost typed the same thing but you saved me all that work.
Benjamin Thomas
Only form of gov that offers true social justice; keep the commies and the capitalists from enslaving you.
No money gained through other means than work.
Jayden Hernandez
I'm not sure why you think I acknowledge " left right" labels. This ideology is the only one serious about ethnic nationalism. As far as I'm concerned left right means one who is for ethnic nationalism and one who is against. Irrespective of economics.
William Reed
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Christian Perry
Can you go in further detail about the suppression of conflicts between classes by the state? I'm still working on swallowing the NatSoc pill, and coming from libertarianism that doesn't sound so good.