This thread is dedicated to the consideration of new rules and enforcement of moderation on Sup Forums

This thread is dedicated to the consideration of new rules and enforcement of moderation on Sup Forums.

It is no secret that Sup Forums has seen a steady decline in overall board quality the past few years, but now in the post-election era it has reached a crescendo and every day it seems to get worse as rampant shitposting has gone unchecked to the point of normalization.

Current board rules go largely unenforced especially in relation to thread quality. It should be noted that the sticky states that any Sup Forums-tier threads will be deleted and lists 5 EXAMPLES.

These 5 listed in the sticky are not the end all be all of what a Sup Forums-tier thread may look like as we have certainly seen over the past year during the election.

. It seems that new posters seeking to disrupt any meaningful discourse on the board believe they can get around the rules of the sticky by avoiding “Red pill me on X” in exchange for “Well, Sup Forums?”, “Thoughts?”, “Thoughts on this Sup Forums?”, or many other examples we have seen this past year while the mods and janitors ignore the fact that these threads are just as abhorrent in quality as the examples already listed in the sticky.

These new Sup Forums-tier threads are not well thought out, not well written, and do not offer a high level of discourse befitting of the board. If you do not believe that this is a serious problem please go to the catalog and set the sort order to “Creation Date” and you will see the quality of threads being made every minute.

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It is utterly shocking and repulsive how it even came to this level. How for so long threads such as “How will Sup Forums recover from this?” and “Drumpf BTFO” and “U mad whiteboi?” were allowed to fester and thrive receiving hundreds of replies. Now one is hard-pressed to go 5 minutes without seeing a low quality Sup Forums-tier thread such as these being made. It would be just as easy to chalk it up to new posters taking the time to actually reply to these bait threads that caused their rise in popularity, but that would only be an excuse to remove the responsibility the mods had in letting this happen.

Had they had any foresight they could have seen what Sup Forums would have devolved into now. Instead of hundreds of replies these threads now usually receive 10-20 at most achieving nothing more than sliding threads where actual discussion about serious political issues is taking place. Did they ever consider that by letting this occur they were allowing valuable discourse to be slid off of the forum? That they were opening a Pandora’s box that perhaps may never be closed again? This opens up a new theory that the moderation in place is itself new and believes threads of this low level functionality to be, in fact, the normal. Not knowing that 5 years ago virtually all threads had a purpose, had valuable discussion, had more than just a kikebook meme as the image and a 5 word sentence.

This brings us to the decisions that must be made. In the previous threads of the week one of the most common requests is the removal of flags. This is usually made by foreigners that are always picked on for their home country. The identity of the poster’s country proves to be a valuable piece of information when discussing political issues, especially in believing what a person has to say about specific ideologies relative to their countries. For this reason flags should stay, as removing them will do nothing to alter the drastic amount of Sup Forums-tier threads that slide discussion which should be the top priority of moderation.

Instead there should be extremely strict enforcement in the purging of the normalized Sup Forums-tier threads of the election cycle in addition to the threads of the current sticky. These include but are not limited to:
“Sup Forums BTFO”
“Well Sup Forums?”
“Thoughts?”
“Thought on this Sup Forums?”
“Drumpf BTFO”
“How will Sup Forums ever recover from this?”
“U mad whiteboi?”
“Wat do?”
“What did he mean by this?”
“What’s his name Sup Forums?”
“Why don’t you have an X gf Sup Forums?”
“Is X /ourguy///ourgirl/?”
“Reply to this” “If you don’t reply to this” “Roll for”
“It’s over X is finished!”
“Insult the country above you”
“What does Sup Forums think of X?”

Ban all civic nationalists and non-whites.

The subject matter of the post is usually not the problem in and of itself. It is the design of the thread specifically to bait the board into sliding valuable discussion. There is confusion on whether or not new posters to Sup Forums know what they are doing. Whether they know that taking a photo off of Google relating to a subject they want to learn about and writing “What does Sup Forums think about X?” is acceptable or not. This is unacceptable as it is not well thought out or well written and offers no specifics on where the discussion should be aimed. For this reason, it was also suggested that there should be a minimum amount of characters required for a thread to be created as to force posters to include more information relating to the subject they wish to learn about before creating a thread. However, this scenario seems to be easily exploitable for obvious reasons so perhaps the better solution is to simply enforce the rules of the sticky regarding well thought out posts and issuing warnings to posters that create threads such as “Thoughts?” with no other specific content regarding the topic in the post.

There were also some more rash suggestions over the past week that are surely to be less popular with the overall population of board, but are 100% assured to immediately increase board quality. These are to ban kek posting, which is nothing more than glorified get posting, and to ban mobile posting, which probably would not even be possible from a standard board moderator’s stand point. But banning mobile and kek posting, but mobile posting especially, would drastically decrease shitposting overnight. This fact cannot be argued.

Another suggestion this week, which is probably the most effective if Sup Forums really does not have dedicated moderators, is a robot similar to /r9k/ to filter out the new aforementioned Sup Forums-tier threads. Along the same lines of removing flags was removing ID’s. ID’s are a necessary evil to eliminate samefagging so they must stay. One creative solution mentioned was auto-banning users that do not respond to their thread in a certain amount of time which would reduce the “1 post by this ID” situation in bait threads. Also a 30-minute timer in between creating threads. If nothing is done perhaps the mods should allow a month or two of solid gore posting to be allowed to rid us of the cancer we are currently dealing with. Mods please consider the content of this thread and implement some real changes. The quality of the board as it stands today is unacceptable, especially to people that remember how truly great it once was.

tl;dr

In the same way our God Emperor has instituted extreme vetting at our nation’s borders, our moderators must institute extreme vetting at thread creation. If people would simply not reply to Sup Forums-tier threads they would have gone away by now but, unfortunately, this leaves moderation as the only way Sup Forums can be saved and possibly revert to a time where posters had the ability to converse about serious topics uninterrupted. The most likely solution is thread creation timers and auto-bans for not replying to a created thread.

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Worth noting that I have had success in reporting porn to the moderators and seeing it swiftly removed. Rule 3 for this board is for no porn, do remember that. A good thing to keep in mind any time people spam it.

However outside of explicit mention of things in the rules, it means that little can be reported without yourself getting banned. Threads like "is x white" or "redpill me on x" etc. are stated to be against the rules in the board's OP yet if you report them you'll get a ban for false reporting, which is quite grating.

It would be nice for the moderators to be more active and to cull the obvious spam of threads. It's pretty obvious what's spam and what's not. Any "drumpf btfo" or "pol btfo" threads should be deleted on sight imo. They add nothing at all whatsoever. Discussion should be encouraged where possible.

shhhaaaaaa daaaaaaa fuuuukkkkk uuuupppppppp

FUCK OFF

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT THESE THREADS ARE CREATED BY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DESTROY Sup Forums

DO NOT LET THEM

I've reported these types of threads before, some have been removed and some not. I've not been banned for reporting it.
>I don't spam report it tho

>you'll get a ban for false reporting
HAHAHAHA

EAT SHIT

ITT OP mistakes Sup Forums for his blog.

It really is depressing how new people to this website think the quality that the board is now is normal or acceptable. This board has not always been this way.

>Sup Forums used to be better
YOU ARE THE NEWFAG

LURK MORE OR FUCK OFF

>being this triggered
whats the matter sweetie your safespace just not good enough anymore?

Reported for shitposting

You're right it's literally better than it's ever been, sorry this board will never be nat soc again

>Ban all civic nationalists and non-whites.
Fuck off stormfag

go away redditor. what is with you cucks and hyper-moderating speech?

Old fag posts are literally /R/eddit tier.

Prime Sup Forums was 09-13

The shit we have now is unacceptable

this tbqh
neetsocs triggered by other opinions and free expression of ideas

face it
civic nationalism = patrician, goat and sustainable
natsoc, fascist etc = plebeian, shit, unsustainable and evil

history proves it

The only thing that should be banneable offense is multiple threads at the same time from one id

The ID system would have to be reverted back to how it used to be where you only had one ID and it did not change from thread to thread.

>tl;dr
every time these gatekeeping type threads pop-up it just reminds me of cripplechan's Sup Forums. Wanting to have all these rules in place will make this place a slow and boring circle jerk.

Go the catalog and set the search to creation date. 90% of the threads being made are shitposts, bait threads, and slide threads. This has gone unchecked for too long to the point new posters think things are supposed to be happening in this way.

Saved. You're a good user, OP

>reddit meme
>reddit spacing
Wow. You cancerous newfags don't even try to hide your refugee status.

>I'm more white than you man up and get a job in trades you fucking NEET
>electrician is nigger tier work you're a failure of the white race unlike me who is a sedentary salaryman
>no I'm fucking more white and better than you because I worked two full time jobs while juggling five courses per semester and eating nothing but tuna out of a can and sleeping two hours a night
>no I'm white
>no fuck you I'm white you're a piece of shit GTFO /pol
>no I'm white man up you immature faggot
>lol you have bipolar? stop being a little bitch you eat to much sugar and not meditate enough Jews are out to poison you with meds
Unfortuantely this is what it is now

Range ban all Bog posters!

Sup Forums sucks because it's now a portal of underaged twitterposting and normalfaggotry and spills onto the rest of the site. It has nothing to do with ideology, politics, or how many times you say nigger. No matter how many times everyone tells you otherwise you kids won't listen.

No new rules faggot.
This is a shill thread.

You can't beat this with more moderation.

Greater moderation is what these people want. You think it means a mod will ban most of these people and the threads they make - no. Those threads are usually against the rules already.

No, what will happen when you give mods greater leeway, is the moderator positions will become even more compromised than they already are, and legitimate threads will get wiped off the board (and frankly, this is already a problem that happens). The threads you want gone will proliferate, they won't disappear. They'll have moderator protections, will be started by moderators, and anyone speaking out against any of it will get banned.

This is how the left works. They always subvert positions of authority because good people aren't interested in controlling others.

How do we stop the cancer if not by cutting it out of the body?

Merge it with /mlp/ or /r9k/ and nuke from above. If only it could be possible to mass hardware ban people for a month like the good old days.

hmmm I smell a jew who wants slide threads and screw with serious Sup Forums discussions. Or poll is just trolling itself as usual.

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>Current board rules go largely unenforced especially in relation to thread quality

bullshit, most users can simply choose to ignore such posts

last time I posted I remember it being about the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, but nobody apparently wanted to discuss on that subject

maybe the whole community just wants to meme ad infinitum, who knows

+$0.05

>new posters think things are supposed to be happening in this way.
maybe. but there's plenty of other threads or posts warning about the fact that it's slide threads etc.

I personally wouldn't mind finding out if it's funded CTR type shit or just trolls from /qa/ and Sup Forums but you'd probably never be able to. I don't think you're going to be able to do that much b/c your problems stem from Trump's popularity (and it being popular for ~45% of the country to hate him) and Sup Forums's association with him. Trump personality gins up this kind of response

Fuck if I know. This is ultimately a problem stemming from advertising/marketing companies shilling using guerrilla marketing techniques. They take money from clients, then pay a pittance of that money to useful idiots who basically act like human-bots who spew the desired talking points.

This is a problem that cannot be tackled at the website level. You can't weed these people out using "are you a robot" captchas, because they're human. Instead of trying to stem the tide, you have to go on the offensive and start taking down the marketing companies paying these people. We need laws against the shilling/mass propaganda by advertisers.

Or, we need vigilante justice doing damage to these companies.

THAT will have an effect.
Adding yet another retarded lefty moderator to the Sup Forums team and expecting him to police the things he's either being paid to push, or already agrees with, will not accomplish anything.

You faggots need to stop talking about how much you hate blacks and women all the fucking time. It gets old.

A single political cartoon, especially mainstream, or a single image with little or no text posted as an OP should be bannable. "BTFO" is not discussion.

Sup Forums used to be better,otherwise monkeys that finished their basic english studies recently wouldn't be posting here.

But that's the same as mandating that everyone have a trip, and as we all know trips are for fags.

It was that way for a while and it cut down shitposting significantly.

that's literally the stormfag retards that inhabited in place from 2012, what are you talking about. What did the golden age of Sup Forums look like exactly hm?

That is the solution. If all shitposts were ignored people would stop making the threads and they would go away. Your post with substance was likely slid off the forum by the sheer volume of shitposting threads taking up the entire catalog.

I agree. This should be added to the list.

Redpills are now a trojan horse for shitposting, so I don't think ignoring them would even make them go away.

>not being so redpilled you've realized the only solution is to hang the shitskins and the kikes

go back to plebbit, faggot

I almost want to quit posting here. It used to be a nationalist board but now at least 2/3rds of the threads are jew/nigger shitposting "Drump BTFO, wyte boi BTFO" bullshit.

>This board is not how i want it to be so it's broken and failing rapidly, fix it NOW mods!

kek make this happen

Sounds really gay desu.
You really think these shills don't have ways to fuck with the board with IDs?
They shill on all of social media already. It'll just make it so they don't have to learn as much to fuck with people here.
IDs allow consensus cracking.

More like the board has changed significantly for the worse in the past 6 months and authority should step in to eliminate the lingering cancer.

I report all spam/retard/cuck/porn/commie generals and have noticed thatone of two things usually happened:

they all mostly get deleted within minutes

or nothing happens for hours and hours

leading me to believe there are just huge windows of time where no mod is lurking, but when they are around, if you report a thread, its quickly checked.

If you watch check Sup Forums lists all bans here:

Sup Forums.org/bans

you can usually see how long since a mod has deleted/banned something from every board. sometimes its been hours.

they put out calls for new mods and janitors and I bet it is hard as hell to sift through the trolls and coordinate schedules(probably no schedules, probably volunteers when they can for however long they can)

While I hate all the shit threads, I would rather have under-moderation versus overzealous moderation. When you report any thread, it hides it for you, so reporting bullshit threads gets them off your screen at least.

I do not think we need more rules, maybe a few more moderators. BUT a BAD moderator is a billion times worse than any shitpost.

You know who's the most to blame? Us.

Posting in shitty threads even with sage just gives faggots the (You)s they want.

I support what you're doing OP, because this place is pretty shit right now but the reason faggots post b8 is because other niggers bite on it.

If you absolutely feel compelled to reply, do nothing but call the OP a faggot, use sage, and then hide the thread. Don't let them draw you into any further discussion.

Hardcore authoritarian mods aren't going to help us, we have to fix this place ourselves by being the community we want to see.

Authority won't fix the cancer. It never has. Authority has only ever enabled the cancer to continue growing, because the authority itself is cancerous.

Even on double chan they suffer from the problem, except in that case it's moderators who squelch any dissent from the right-wing groupthink, just like reddit does with lefties.

You need moderate moderators, which means some of both sides always get posted.

Proto Sup Forums can be forgiven since it was still on the cutting edge, at the time, along with SomethingAwful

This is like watching comedies from the 80's and wondering why they're not as funny as you remember them. Humor evolves (in a ruthless, Darwinian fashion)

>block all mobile traffic, this includes viewing the boards
>revert bans to how they used to be where you can't even view boards you've been banned from


This will solve 90% of problems.

We are not against opposing view points as long as they are quality, well thought out, well written, genuine posts looking for meaningful discussion. What we are against is the Sup Forums-tier shitposting nonsense listed earlier in the thread akin to "Drumpf BTFO"

No but the stormfags can shitpost to their hearts content right?

/worships niggers with no end in sight
Projects irony/10

Black ppl are the new white

Got/10

What are you picturing a stormfag shitpost to be? Any post talking about (((them)))? Any post relating to the concept of racial superiority? It depends it they are well thought out, well written, and genuine.

And like I said, if you want to get rid of the spam, you have to target the companies paying for the spam.

I really don't know what you're complaining about, every single board has it's fair share of shitposting, and if a topic really captures people's interest there will be a discussion. There's a bunch of chans out there but if you want actual serious discussion and no memes? Has there even been a chan that set out to accomplish that goal? have they lasted for more than a year? You're better off going to leddit desu.

Fair share? It's at an all time high and nothing is being done about it. That is the problem.

The Jews and Their Lies - By Martin Luther

Dear/pol, I've learned a lot here. The truth that you share and the meme facts have been glorious. Times are tough right now, but you are making progress. The energy here is where it needs to be even if it brings in the CTR Soros devils. Stay with facts and swat down the stupid ideas. Your victories are witnessed by thousands of lurkers who have not the energy/cottage to contribute. Remember how threatening it is to say white pride in public. We have to make the case, and this is the only place to set the record straight about white contributions to humanity, and what whites need to do next.

We all know what the problem here is and how to fix it. Ban all Canadian IP. Shitposting will remain, but will drop back to pre-election levels.

>We all know what the problem here is and how to fix it. Ban all Canadian IP. Shitposting will remain, but will drop back to pre-election levels.

Install Sup Forums X, you can filter by flag.

Trying to get everyone to conform to one ideology and to some etiquette required to post is going to kill this board faster than all the shill groups all over the world posting Blacked memes. Honestly I'm seeing a good share of topics for discussion and news articles on the front page of Sup Forums, it seems balanced from here.

The only problem is that there are more than likely shill groups trying to slide threads and push their own agenda, but Sup Forums doesn't seem too affected by that - not including the migration of newfags from the election

Check em cunt

nigger roastie get out

It's funny because the white pride nat soc fags started making a bunch of threads one day during the election because they found out through a poll that more than half of Sup Forums was around the libertarian spectrum of ideology. The mods intervened and actually commented on how assblasted the far right side of the community was and they did nothing to try to
alleviate their concerns.

This place is catching on. Go with it. Fight the good fight. I've seen your memes and YouTube clips popping up on kikebook. You give us acceptable info to share, and the most unlikely people are sharing it. You guys are correct with people getting pissed at the feminist left. It's just that this is the front lines, and you guys are giving another option besides multicultural bullshit. Believe me when I say this is the place to get ammunition to use IRL.

last bump.

OP can't bump a thread

>implying the mods will listen

they wont. You retards must apply for janitor positions in june

Fuck off QA

OP can actually after some time

Can you give an example of a post from back then? Compared to now?

POLITICALLY INCORRECT

MILLITANT Sup Forums

FUCK YOUR NAZI CENSORSHIP GARBAGE

REEEEEEEE

looks its from 2008

>implying 2008 fags are oldfags

Is the real solution gore posting? It's worked in the past at purging new people but would it work now. The ratio of regular users to new people has changed so there would have to be some serious dedication to gore for at least a month. I would love to start but my ip is static and it's unlikely the mods would cooperate with such a purge.

this tbqh

I found this place a week before the election. I mostly lurk, rarely post. I have definitely seen a drastic decline in the quality of the board. From what I know, great message and image boards come and go; forums will have a golden age, then decline. Maybe with the memeing Trump into the white house, Sup Forums lost its magic.

Informative. Well thought out, well written. Creates discussion.

Now every thread is
>Drumf BTFO!
>How will Sup Forums ever recover?

All one line writing prompts. You do not deserve to start a thread unless you actually have something to contribute (cf the rule on /s/ to have at least six images).
All spamming and reposting (cf the rule on /r9k/ that no duplicate can be posted, but here applying to either reposted images or reposted text).
Generals are good. An original thread is good. A seemingly original thread started while another already exists is spam.
Rage, swearing, ALLCAPS, talking about violence in order to entrap.
Babbling about girlfriends.
Suggested depression: "how are you holding up?"
"Oh my god, you guys, my girlfriend, family or boss are ostracizing me for my stupid racist beliefs, I guess I should have been more educated and tolerant, huh?"
Celebrity gossip.
Saying "be honest," "discuss," "thoughts," or "guys" or "what do you guys think." We never did this, we never do this, this actually contradicts board culture, and shills do it often because it reflects their controlled culture.
Reposting faceberg flotsam with no additional content.
Viral marketing.
Post expansions of existing rules, eg:
>pol btfo = checkmate = X is never Y ... = defend this = apologize = how can X compete = how can X recover
>is X redpilled = is X degenerate = /ourguy/ = what is Y about X = what is a redpilled movie
Clarify the main overarching idea, which is that you cannot contribute by botting out one sentence fragment, demanding that everyone else write your thread for you, and calling it a day.

Lately the racemixing propaganda threads have been out of control.
Seriously it feels like the majority of content is from shariablue/trolls/(((them))).

The only problem on /pol is the constant raids by liberals and /lgbt.

I miss the mangafox printing and frame-by-frame evaluation on their cartoons of Sup Forumsutists 2bh famalam

Its Sup Forums.
Sup Forums literally ruins everything
they have absolutely shit taste and some how have become addicted to talking like a fucking who loves to text chat, and constantly being intentionally retarded.

This entire list is honestly "Sup Forums the posts"
They love this stupid, braindead, 8 word repetitive posts.
This is what the attention span of a gold fish yields in the world of memes.

No good content. No funny images.
Just the same boring, unfunny, repetitive catch phrase over and over and over and over.

It being so fucking bad, they had to make a separate videogame board where posting like a total fucking low IQ orphan child is a bannable offense.

Mark my words.
We will never see the end of this shit, because this entire website has multiple places entire dedicated to attracting only the dumbest, and underaged people this world has to offer.

Cheeky bants are still quality posting though. I am against of shitposting for the sake of shitposting

The best way to fix Sup Forums would be to put a posting cooldown of a minute on. We also need to crack down on shitposting and reddit tier threads.

Anyone who knows what a vagina, breasts, or a girl's lips and hands feels like needs to fuck off back to /r/normietown along with anyone who can't name this character or the meme presented in the .gif.

This.
Why the fuck is Hiro not listening?

I think this is also because of the creation of /his/. Smarter posters from Sup Forums probably transferred there

Maybe the best solution is just to migrate there. Even though it's slow af it's better than sifting through the never ending shitposts of Sup Forums 2.0 aka Sup Forums.

ban images of reddit posts

It's been getting worse and worse as of late. I can see more people fleeing to 8ch now.

The mods here are corrupt and flat out hate us. They will ban anything good thing we try to do and will leave the shitposting up instead. They are actively sabotaging this board.

If Hiro would understand that allowing this website to dissolve into such horrible quality will push people off of the site which results in less ad revenue and way less Sup Forums passes sold. Who wants to buy a Sup Forums pass for a place that produces such shitty content? It's in his best interest to improve the quality.