Traditionalism + Nationalism = Fascism?

Traditionalism + Nationalism = Fascism?

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Modernism + Nationalism = Fascism

That's one of the reasons Evola criticized fascism

Saying "Modernism + Nationalism" is superfluous, as the later is a product of the former. Evola disdained both, though he saw some potential for fascism to evolve into something else.

Shit thread.

Interesting, so he believed nationalism was at odds with traditionalism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola#Elitism_and_Relationship_with_Fascism

I wonder how his current nationalist fans reconcile that, or if they bother to.

fuck off with evola

Of I remember correctly, he admired the hierarchical structure of Fascism and it's work ethic, but was more inclined to Monarchism as a sort of intrinsic sole that fulfill a western ethos. The rights of workers and the continuing decline of aristocracy rustled his jimmies,

whats wrong with him?

They like his appeal to an esoteric folk soul, religiosity, order and agrarian culture.

So hipsters in search of authenticity, basically

Evola's work is far-right in the sense that it is traditional and spiritually hierarchical. Fascism in practice even in Spain where its iteration was elitist was far too popular, plebeian for him. I cringe when he's automatically the to-go intellectual for fascism which is the product of traditionalism, left-wing economics and the plebeian and democratic movement which is nationalism.

Hipster? No. More like a disgruntled guy who moves back after years, dad sold all of his property for retirement and is pissed that the name doesn't mean anything anymore; went through a religious stage to reconnect with the area and the people he knew.

Respond to my post please.

Why? You aren't wrong. He's the go to because he offers intrinsic value, an esoteric spirituality. He didn't think highly of Nationalism. Though if he were alive today, I'd argue that on the grounds of Napoleon Bonaparte, Nationalism can be the best after effect of a Republican takeover.

>Napoleon Bonaparte, Nationalism can be the best after effect of a Republican takeover.

I agree. Nationalism is a necessary total reaction of a wholly united nation just as fascism is a temporary totalitarianism which unites the nation for great enterprise.

>Nationalism can be the best after effect of a Republican takeover.

Though this sentence doesn't exactly make complete sense considering that the Jacobins were actually nationalists as well even ethnically when suppressing regional culture.

Reaction to the Current Modernism = Fascism

No. Fascism is a post-industrial ideology, the opposite of traditonalism

Bureaucracy + Nationalism = Fascism.

Fascism is not traditional. it's a revolutionary, futuristic ideology

>fascism is left wing

try again, cuntcake.

traditionalism + nationalism = every uncucked society in the history of the world

I agree with that. Its not to say I'm a complete Fascist, but I am in the way of a temporary reaction that can evolve into another system. You can't perpetually be in a state of gearing everything towards war.

It's sort of in the vein as Communists supporting Irish of Scottish Nationalists. Strictly speaking, that retarded philosophy isn't nationalist at all, but encourages hostile splintering. That can be argued that either Nationalism in a Republican setting can still get desired results and act as a transition government, or that Republican Nationalism at most points prior to the 60's or so didn't hold pretensions about these things at all.

Fascism is not traditionalist in that purist way but I would posit that some inkling of tradition is inherent to nationalism when contextualized against the internationalism and materialism of other ideologies.

The "leveling" effect on society that is inherent to leftism is present in the ethos of fascism in the presence of demotic nationalism which is paired materially with the economics which fascism is prone to like national-syndicalism. With the exception of Primo de Rivera who adopted national syndicalism many major fascists, Mussolini and Oswald (a former Fabian) had socialist backgrounds.

>Fascism is not traditionalist in that purist way

I would say that Fascism is culturally conservative in the context of the organic traditions of the country.

There is nothing "organic" about fascism. It is a mass, totalitarian, sterilizing system. The Disneylandification of peoples' genuine culture.

He never said "left-wing," cuntcake. He said that it is plebeian, which it is.

traditional + nationalism + romanticism = fascism