Is russia successful USSR?

ok so here is the deal, I've been reading "inside the soviet army" (great read, would recommend) and I found myself in aw of the simple structure that was the soviet government. The trifecta of the communist party, the army and the KGB. It explains in great detail why such simplicity seems so fuckin complicated and why the warsaw treaty was utter bullshit. It was simply a curtain to hide the fact that the USSR had generals in nearly every army in eastern europe and thus controlled eastern europe. It's all actually very clever. which lead me to some questions about modern russia. Did the USSR become russia simply to further hide the fact that they own eastern europe? The more i look at the current state of government in russia the more i see similarity's to the USSR. The main difference being that the general secretary changed names to president, the central comity became the federal assembly of russia the KGB split into the police, the juridical comity and secret service and the army...well stayed the army. Also the more i look into it the more i believe that the russians did greatly influence the american elections to put trump in power either because they are friends (thus effectively controlling the USA) or because trumps an utter idiot making it easy to deal with the states over seas. Is Putin trying to take over the world and install communism in a quiet manner or does he have another agenda?

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a fucking leaf

shake me from the tree of ignorance. i am hear to learn and i find the subject very interesting. please explain where i am wrong and why?

you had me interested until you mentioned Russia influencing US politics.
just repeating what others have been saying ah?
or even copypasta I dunno, don't visit regularly anymore.

if you are wondering though, try and answer the question why the Chinese succeeded in keeping things together and the Russians didn't. key point in the whole debate.

i get that it's a long shot but look at who profits from trumps election.

also the chines have stayed under their regime because of culture not politics. they are a very submitted race compared to there northern counterparts.

>also the chines have stayed under their regime because of culture not politics. they are a very submitted race compared to there northern counterparts.

Like I said, try and answer that question, instead of second guessing
if it wasn't in that book of yours then I wasn't a very good book user.

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it's a book detailing the soviet army and its structure. it has nothing to do with china other than a couple of mentions. it is a great book.

The commies killed the entire chinese culture and that commie shit is all they have left fagoot leaf kys

so the chinese were successful due to cultural genocide?

ok, well you mentioned Chinese culture. there was no culture left after Mao was finished, it was all gone. the cultural revolution raped the entire country. anything resembling the old china ended up with death.

the reason china kept it together was a political choice for sure, had nothing to do with culture. They embraced Mao and his foundations 'despite' his flaws.
any Chinese will tell you he did 6 out of 10 things very wrong, but they are embracing the rest for the same of unity.

The Russians completely dismissed Stalin and that made the country as a unity fall apart beyond repair.

Any cultural reasons can be ignored in this because it works the same in Russia, China and the US, these countries are essentially too big to govern well so corruption is often the best way to keep things under control.

Russia sucks and it doesn't own shit.
Not even itself, all the le strong nationalist government is a fucking meme, half the senators and almost 100% of high ranking ministers evacuated their families either abroad or to some fortified rural estates that look more like fortresses.

Absolute majority of oil and gas profits which are the main clauses of federal income go into offshores and Western European banks, despite the fact that all natural resources are nationalised.

Russian central bank is just a branch of the global banking system owned by Rothschilds, the interest rates are well above 10% cause greedy russian scum likes to charge their countrymen 4 times the interest Rothschild charges them.

A Sup Forums named as russian.

i said culture but i meant mass psychology. chinese like mao, russians hate stalin.
chinese had nothing better and russians decided to make something better.

wouldnt the high ranking officers evac their family's because russia has a habit of making officers disposable?

ok so you're still second guessing.

no i was questioning

They evacuate them because the see themselves as white vicars to an African colony of niggers, thinking that just cause they stole crapload of money makes them white and european. Not even Nazi Reichskommissariats were so distant from people they governed.

Just look at my digits.
Kek himself confirms that Russia is shit.

whell heallo shatan

i'm not saying its good im simply wondering if it's a re-branded USSR with smoother edges

the Chinese don't love Mao, they just embraced the positive sides of his policies in order to keep unity/identity/patriotism/etc.

the Russians completely turned on anything Stalin and as an effect they lost their identity.

not saying either one is for the good or the bad but the effect is clear, Russia is no longer a nation, they are not proud of themselves, they feel inferior to the western world and every day that go's bye proofs this.

A lot more countries benefit from Trump's election than Russia. You're just parroting the media's lines.

It's a decomposing corpse of USSR and Putin's regime is larvae on it.

ur gonna get hacked watch out kiddo

it's hard to see clearly among this sea of shit yet to the extent of my knowledge the biggest beneficiary is russia. especially if they are doing this bad

Oh niooo! russian haksorz are gonna make my brain into trump ohhh niioooooo

>Did the USSR become russia simply to further hide the fact that they own eastern europe?
Yeah, Poland is part of NATO, Bulgaria refuses your gasline projects, and Ukraine in civil war, seems legit and totaly in Russian control. Are you retarted?
>government in russia the more i see similarity's to the USSR
Only the Soviet Union was ruled by PARTY, Russia mostly by one man and his team.
>Putin trying to take over the world and install communism
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struggling to own something does not mean that they don't. not retarded, uninformed.

>Only the Soviet Union was ruled by PARTY
yes the party of stalin

>Christian not communism
religion is just a tool to control the people so tell me how this doesn't sound like
>praise jebus! and don't focus on us.

there we go, even Putin says it, there was nothing in exchange of communism.

one of the things often ignored about Russia is that it's recent aggressive stand is mainly part of the egressive nature in which western countries, especially the US,UK and France have been destabilising any country with strong Russian ties.
any arab country now going up in flames is due to this system of trying to keep Russia's influence at a minimum.
its not about freedom, democracy, not even about money, its only evolves around marginalizing Russia as a world player.

the Effect is the euro buffer-zone Russia is trying to retake which is a 'told you so they are evil' for the western world but in reality simply attempt to keep its country save from 'them'. whomever they are.

before you shit bricks yest the communist party of russian and central comity but lets be honest. stalin ruled everything.

>Russia mostly by one man and his team.

(((team)))

If a state cannot protect it's inhabitants and insure their well-being is it really a state?

Fuckin leaf! Russia is a third world shithole because the USSR commie economics. Have you ever seen an good country that was commie? No.

a dysfunctional state is still a state just look at michigan, ohio, arizona.

No. USSR had ideological reason for expansion and confontation with capitalistic countries. In theory at least, on practice most ideas of international socialistic revolution was abandoned pretty early replaced by simple need to survive, since whole western world turned against USSR and it was matter of existence to expand influence and get allies.

Modern Russia is nothing like that. All we want is from the world to let us the fuck alone and not mess with us. We have more than enouth for our population territory and resources. We dont fucking need Eastern Europe, or for that matter any country that isnt speaking Russian.

We`ll hold grip on Belarus, Kazachstan, Ukraine and thats it. Even the ex-USSR ones like Georgia, Armenia, Ajerbaijan etc. we dont really care what they do as long they dont put american Bases there or go to war like Georgia did.

Our current policy is multipolar world - so that US, China, EU and Russia could do their own bussiness and not mess wich each other.

oh good! i see we are on the same page. russia is a shit superpower (only reason they are still a superpower is russian tier weapons and military) like i said my question is this:

>is russia rebranded ussr

No its not faggot. there is zero ideology going on.

and Russia aint a superpower either despite what scared people trying to state.

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>if they can they will grab them by the throat if not they will bide their time

quote from the book

Are you seriously comparing Michigan to the USSR? Fucking leafs man

no im using them as examples if you want something further from home hows about brazil?

or what about north korea? you see the pattern? they are all states...and they are all full of shit! wow its like you can have a shitty dysfunctional state and still call it a state.

Holy fuck you are dumb

Keep reading the parts after 1991 you fucking idiot.

Putin and Russia is not communist any more.

KYS

book written in 1982....read past 1991....hmmmm I MUST be dumb!

The USSR was successful in allocating resources to industries across the state. This is one of the reasons that they were the first in orbit. They put emphasis on space and defense (nukes) but in doing so they failed to take into account the needs of the people. Its the reason they were able to put a man into orbit but not able to supply adequate amounts of toilet paper to the people. They were successful from an external viewpoint. But internally they failed.

Russia is not USSR. It doesn't have an ideology whatsoever. They try to imitate orthodox and "imperial' ideology but it's all rotten inside out. The only binding thing is federal propaganda news.
The reason it behaves like USSR is that old school government just don't know anything else. Politicians don't care about country at all and just rob it as much as they can. Not to mention that russians hate each other more than anything else.
The whole country is an imitation. Imitation of democracy, patriotism, military strength, unity. Look deeper and you'll see nothing of that. Money is the only thing that matters.

>is russia successful USSR?
No.
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