Sup Forums eternally BTFO

Sup Forums eternally BTFO

New study finds no link between immigration and increased crime, four decades of evidence to back this up

sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/02/170210165953.htm

>Political discussions about immigrants often include the claim that there is a relationship between immigration patterns and increased crime. However, results of a new study find no links between the two. In fact, immigration actually appears to be linked to reductions in some types of crimes, according to the findings.

What are all the racists here going to do now? :^)

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cis.org/ImmigrantCrime
archive.is/LRe05
youtube.com/watch?v=oIBiGVk9-o8&feature=youtu.be
youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM
youtube.com/watch?v=W6NYP9qmjfU
nap.edu/catalog/23550/the-economic-and-fiscal-consequences-of-immigration
heritage.org/immigration/report/administrative-amnesty-unjust-costly-and-incentive-more-illegal-immigration
heritage.org/immigration/report/national-academy-sciences-report-indicates-amnesty-unlawful-immigrants-would#_ftn1
ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Crime_statistics
sociology.buffalo.edu/faculty-staff/adelman/
breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/
yle.fi/uutiset/3-9052308
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Couldn't care less. The real argument is they contribute little and take a ton. Immigration is an economic issue dummy.

You dumb fucking nigger.

Even one single illegal in prison is an increase in crime. There are plenty of illegals in prison.

>oh look, he mixed up legal and illegal immigration again

13 year old study, only related to economics and not crime, excellent work :^)

This so much

Fucking kikes again man'

Non-citizen Hispanics are 29% of the federal prison population, despite only being 5% of the population. Source: cis.org/ImmigrantCrime
25-50% of gang members are illegal aliens. Source: cis.org/ImmigrantCrime

archive.is/LRe05

On any given day, there are between 30,000 and 45,000 illegal aliens in the nation’s prisons and jails. Source: cis.org/ImmigrantCrime

Hispanic illegal aliens are only 5% of America’s population but 25% of drug offenders. Source: cis.org/ImmigrantCrime

1 in four inmates in American federal prison is a non-citizen. Source: cis.org/ImmigrantCrime

In America, non-citizen Hispanics are overrepresented among white collar crimes. Source: cis.org/ImmigrantCrime

Which is funny, because illegal entry into the US is still illegal. A misdemeanor is still a crime.

>too dumb to understand I am pointing out that they are bad for the economy as well.

What is it like to be low IQ? Life must be simple for you.

There are 1400% more rapes now in Sweden than in 1975.

youtube.com/watch?v=oIBiGVk9-o8&feature=youtu.be
>The federal Bureau of Prisons category “criminal aliens” includes legal immigrants who have been convicted of serious crimes, but over 90% of incarcerated criminal aliens are illegal aliens, so it is reasonable to use these numbers as a close approximation of the extent of illegal alien crime.
>Similar data is available at the state level if state officials have the desire to look for it. The Texas Department of Public Safety reports that between 2008 and 2014, 35% of the all murder convictions were illegal aliens—averaging 472 murders each year from 2004 to 2008.

>Between 2008 and 2014, 40% of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal aliens. In New York it was 34% and Arizona 17.8%.
>During those years, criminal aliens accounted for 38% of all murder convictions in the five states of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and New York, while illegal aliens constitute only 5.6% of the total population in those states.
>That 38% represents 7,085 murders out of the total of 18,643.
>That 5.6% figure for the average illegal alien population in those five states comes from US Census estimates. We know the real number is double that official estimate. Yet, even if it is 11%, it is still shameful that the percentage of murders by criminal aliens is more than triple the illegal population in those states.

Stefan Molyneux on Immigration and Welfare
youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM

Stefan Molyneux on illegal immigrants
youtube.com/watch?v=W6NYP9qmjfU

OP btfo

Get your kike shit studies out of here fag

>molymeme
>an argument
pick one :^)

Pic related is the author of the study, ((Robert Adelman)). I think we're done here.

And yet the heritage study years later found an even LARGER cost from illegals. Imagine that.

Yay a bunch of out-of-date, non peer-reviewed studies from a heavily biased source. Excellent detective work user :^)

Ok snowflake. The fact people don't want refugees to be taken in is because of the economical repercussions and the unpredictability of the refugees, as well as the fact that they may not be able to keep a sustainable life in a developed country, such as USA.

Refugees cost America billions of dollars, and America can barely support it's veteranz, let alone hundreds of thousands of refugees. There are 4 in every 1 homeless guy in America to a refugee. Surely we should focus on the silent, long term majority?

"What are all the racists going to do now", sounds like a tumblr normies to me, btfo. And if you think that crime is the primary reason that people don't want refugees, you're living life in your wonderful bubble

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>shows little support for the notion that more immigrants lead to more crime."

>all immigrants are equal
>immigrant from Germany is equal to illegal from Mexico

0 immigrants = 0 crimes by immigrants

Study debunked

>inb4 they have lower crimes rates than native-born niggers, therefore we should have open borders

>inb4 they have lower crimes rates than native-born niggers, therefore we should have open borders
but user they do have lower crime rates than some native populations such as African Americans

>Crime increasd due to illegal immigrants over the past decade
>OP's "infallible" study says it hasn't increased over 4 decades

Outdated doesn't even matter when your source is using shit over 40 years to make an outrageous claim, dumbass

nap.edu/catalog/23550/the-economic-and-fiscal-consequences-of-immigration

heritage.org/immigration/report/administrative-amnesty-unjust-costly-and-incentive-more-illegal-immigration

heritage.org/immigration/report/national-academy-sciences-report-indicates-amnesty-unlawful-immigrants-would#_ftn1

okay. I guess all our criminologists are wrong.

Technically speaking, being a refugee is a criminal offence, on the basis that you enter the country illegally without proof you can support yourself. So your argument is completely invalid.

>Center for Immigration Studies
Can you find anything more biased?

Yet to see any solid peer-reviewed sources. Racist thinktanks don't count :^)

Everyone knows its about demographics and birthrates, this changes nothing fellow white man

Ok now I know you're baiting

This is a well known effect to LEOS.

Reading comprehension people. Notice that they say "immigrants" and not "illegal immigrants"?

Also, committing crimes, even relatively minor ones jeopardizes your green card stats, and risks extra attention from ICE.

Also, since they're comparing similar income levels, they're mostly comparing poor hispanic immigrants to poor black people. That's not a high bar to hit.

The's the crime rate of Compton, CA has dropped siginifcantly for example. It's also now 55 percent hispanic.

More bullshit by (((experts))) and (((scientists))). We already know your tricks kike.

>Robert Melvin "Bob" Adelman (October 30, 1930 – March 19, 2016) was an American photographer known for his images of the Civil Rights Movement.

Nice """"""science"""""" :^)

(((New study)))

Does the study account for where the migrants come from?

Does the study account for crime rates among the second generation of migrant families?

>(((experts))) and (((scientists)))
I know Sup Forums hates facts that contradict their billshit but this is getting out of hand

how has nobody brought up that this study skews heavily in favor of legal immigrants who are typically highly eduated and vetted? We're conerned with illegal immigrants you dumb fuck

Well EU disagrees with you.

ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Crime_statistics

Stop shit posting.

absurd. look at south africa...most blacks there are migrants.

Nonwhite. This is all that matters concerning immigration.

>legal immigrant follows the law
WOW SHOCKING TRUTH
So when can we ban niggers then?

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that 1/3 of our Federal prisons are comprised of illegals convicted of non-immigration related crimes. Eat pig shit.

>professor of sociology
I want a real professor

>Sciencedaily

Consider suicide.

oh good, now we know the best case scenario is the legal ones are only fundamentally changing the country in the long term

Wow look more fake news!!

Science daily is politically neutral. Only science, no bias :^)

Fake stats, tehehe

Please, correlation =/= causation, this is stats 101 level stuff

Harassing a poor, innocent female cartoonist, have you no shame Sup Forums?

Maybe whites shouldn't be so bad at reproducing :^)

What did Kek mean by this?

Not an argument :^)

Only in USA and only because native blacks commit so much damn crime

That's retarded. Every single illegal immigrant is a criminal.

Even if that is true, you couldn't pay me to live in a Mexispic heavy neighborhood.

These "studies" are usually trash, because they lack precision.

An accurate study of this nature would have to do several things:

-First separate legal immigrants from illegals.

-Then, separate immigrants by background/country/nationality

-Then, separate the non-immigrant crime rates by race

-Then, compare each element against each other.

So obviously just about every immigrant group (legal or illegal) will have lower crime rates than American blacks, but who cares? How do crime rates for Latin illegals compare against American whites, for example?

If a study cannot answer those questions, it is useless.

no, its not an 'economic' issue

its also not a 'crime' issue

It's a moral and social issue. More immigration means decreased social capital. It means self-segregation, lack of trust, lack of volunteering, more radical political beliefs, and exploitation of the host/majority population for wealth and capital.

There is nothing 'good' about immigration. And the social implications trump all jewish economic incentives.

it is also a crime issue

but OP wont dare to bring statistics comparing immigrants to native whites

Yay a vague response to a coherent argument. Excellent rebuttal junior

>immigrants
>the discussion was illegal and refugees
lmfao

Spinning statistics and interpreting them so they adhere to liberal agendas is not proof or "truth". Of course immigrants are more criminal. There are simply not enough jobs for low-skilled illiterates. These studies always pop up when leftists fear that their precious cuddly immigrants are close to being deported.

So much this.
I hate when governments (including our own) defend immigration on economic grounds, when all the immigrants do is live on welfare. Its not even disputed, in germany 40 % of all turks live on state sanctioned gibsmedats.

sociology.buffalo.edu/faculty-staff/adelman/

This is the guy from the study? looks fishy.

every time someone enters the country illegally the crime rate increases because illegal immigration is a crime

""""""""""scientists"""""""" blown the fuck out

I can't wait to see the look in your beady kike eyes when you realize Trump is trying to "save Israel" so that he has a place to deport you all.

Fuck off, Schlomo.

>Fake stats, tehehe
What a waste of digits. No, you catastrophically dumb fuck, the stats are real. Way to not even verify before voicing your uninformed opinion. Brilliant. By the way, it's slightly more than 1/3.

breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

(((new study)))

funded by who exactly

In January-June 2016 immigrants accounted for 43.9 % of all sex crimes in Finland.

News article in Finnish if someone wants to verify with Google translate: yle.fi/uutiset/3-9052308

But every illegal immigrant is a criminal

>1 in 4 comvicts in california are illegals
Throws that argument right out the window

>muh correlation and causation

True, but correlation indicates that causation probably exists somewhere, even if it is indirect.

Therefore, more likely than not, either their association with crime causes their association with immigration, or their association with immigration causes their association with crime.

The former only makes sense if their criminal behavior (probably elsewhere, e.g. Mexico) gave them incentive to immigrate here, in which case they are criminals and we don't want them.

In the latter case, by the environment surrounding their immigration (they're in new land, don't know the language well, no credentials) causes them the commit crime here. The solutions to this are a.) Spend a shit ton of resources educating them and familiarizing them with America, or b.) Kick them the fuck out, which while expensive, is still less expensive than paying for school, and is offset by the funds saved by not having to take care of them while they're here.

In other words, no matter which way the inevitable causation goes, the immigrants are still undesirable to keep here.

how they know if its beaners and turbo niggers doing 8 times more crime in metro areas but white immigrants do 8 times less than natives

The authors drew a sample of 200 metropolitan areas as defined by the U.S. Census Bureau and used census data and uniform crime reporting data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation for a 40-year period from 1970 to 2010.

"This is a study across time and across place and the evidence is clear," said Adelman. "We are not claiming that immigrants are never involved in crime. What we are explaining is that communities experiencing demographic change driven by immigration patterns do not experience significant increases

Everyone knows the crime, immigration, education, and unemployment statistics are fudged by the kikes

Crime is at an all time high, our prisons are overflowing, our schools are failing, our hospitals are collapsing, our economies are in trillions of dollars of debt, and we're letting shitskins into our countries by the millions. But the kikes keep peddling these lies so we don't rise up and do anything to stop it

DON'T TRUST THE KIKES

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Except this doesn't take into account preemptive attempts to reduce crime by immigrants (or any crime-fighting measures implemented by multiple cities at various times, for that matter), nor does it consider any costs to American citizens for implementing these measures, nor does it consider any trends in American vs. immigrant crime that might have occurred because of these measures.

This study is pure statistical analysis based on a very small scope of statistics. It is clearly carefully picked to fit the libshit agenda, and it clearly is a waste of time to consider.

This study is garbage. They don't even attempt to control for any variables at all (aging population, abortion, nationality, race, etc.)

Not all immigrants increase crime (ex. asians), but some absolutely do (hispanics).

>For the current study, the authors stepped back from the study of individual immigrants and instead explored whether larger scale immigration patterns in communities could be tied to increases in crime due to changes in cities, such as fewer economic opportunities or the claim that immigrants displace domestic workers from jobs.
>Metropolitan areas
>Over forty years

So, here are the fundamental problems with the study being conducted.

>The period it is in, and the scale of
Crime is going down across the board for a variety of reasons. It would be extremely difficult to pick up a trend for a nation. Likewise, the study is very careful to avoid saying the opposite as well that immigrants decrease crime. It just suggests it.
>Metropolitan areas are the control
So, consider it like this. If you're an immigrant, would you immigrate to Detroit? What you get is that often the most prosperous cities attract the most immigrants. So, to say that natives of cities such as Detroit, Baltimore, DC, etc commit more crime than somewhere like San Francisco is probably very true.
>There are no controls for country of origin
When you consider immigration, where the immigrant is from will tell you strongly about what you can expect. If a gentlemen immigrates from East Asia/Western Europe typically tells you that the person has wealth or reason to be in the US as it is difficult to do. Likewise, a refugee or an economic migrant is much more likely to be poor.
>there are no controls for wealth
Poverty in urban areas correlates strongly with crime. To compare the elite of immigrants to the bulk of natives is not quite useful. Generally, immigration from shit countries will cause shitty results.
>Finally, there is no control legality
To compare purely illegal immigrants to natives would probably completely change the nature of the results and how to process them.

>University at Buffalo
>lead is an AP of sociologoy
>Robert (((Adelman)))

Hey Faggot OP, what does immigration have to do with Racism? Those same laws apply to whites, but generally their countries are not hell holes of their own making.

replication, peer review, etc.

I don't care.
This isn't their country, it's mine.

Implying that by the very nature of their presence in this country isn't prima facie evidence of criminality.

Robert Adelman, associate professor of sociology, University at Buffalo

>(((ADELMAN)))

Adelman Family History. Jewish (Ashkenazic): ornamental name composed of German Adel 'nobility' + Mann or Yiddish man 'man'. Compare Edel. Variant of German Adelmann.


Every fucking time.

do one on gibs me datz.

Every. Fucking. Time.

I'd love to know the numerical and statistical manipulations they had to do to come to that conclusion.

Every illegal is BY DEFINITION a criminal.