Should amphetamines be sold OTC? They used to be back in the 1920s - 1930s

Should amphetamines be sold OTC? They used to be back in the 1920s - 1930s.

Was put on adderall for ADHD, and I can say without question that is the best drug I've ever had. Coffee doesn't even come close to what this stuff can do.

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And how long have you been on it?

One month. I never want to stop.

inb4 addict accusations, I take as prescribed and am not on a high dose.

This is just a common theme with people who have just begun with stimulants, its effects will level out between 2 - 6 weeks, just dont have unrealistic hopes for what they can achieve.

IR > XR

Stimulants are too "good" for me. I am both a Leo. And an ENFP. Shit makes me way too horny

I'm not, using as needed. It's just been incredible so far and caffeine can't hold a candle to this shit.

That's the one I'm on, IR. The XR pic just looked more neat.

Reminder that amphetamines cause irreversible brain damage .

Literally heroin is better for you

What manufacturer? The generic by Corepharma is the best.

It will stop working as well and you will become dependant on it. You won't get the same euphoria and if you ever stop you'll be a sleepy wreck

No. No drugs! You can't get a descent days work out of these drug addicts.

Do you think a 30mg XR once a day, 5days a week. Would be better for you over time instead of drinking large sums of energy drinks/soda-pop/coffee.

That XR second bump though

its like 1% as strong as what i take
considering its baby shit sell away

Mylan I think. I've heard different things with different brands.

[Citation needed]

I was a sleepy wreck before I took it anyway.

People use coffee all of the time.

God no.

They're schedule 2 for a reason. I had a nervous breakdown this month because of them.

They're serious drugs. Way more serious than coffee.

like every single soldier in the army since ww2 has been drugged up on deployment

I hated adderal

Hahaha if amphetamines were sold OTC I would run around jacking them from the stores and probably get blown away by police but wouldn't need to eat and would go out in style playing these on repeat just running around like it was GTA. Im glad they're not OTC

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Coffee caused me way more problems than adderall is causing me.

You aren't supposed to take them while you're on birth control pretty sure, must have been your problem.

Ive been on them for about 12 months now. Personally I prefer ritalin, specifically concerta for actually helping me focus and stay on task.

80% of the treatment is CBT, you need to implement a boot camp like regime to re-learn how to do day-to-day task in a structured manner.

You should think of Stimulants as a helping hand to make CBT effective. You're doing a huge disservice to your brain if you're rewriting reward pathways, with stimulants as a fundamental ingredient to perform work.

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you had a breakdown because you are a roody poo or predisposed to being a candy ass, standard amphetamines arent strong enough to do shit alone

Been taking various stimulants, primarily dexamphetamine, for about 10 years.
Yes, it should definitely be available to the masses, but with an easy to get prescription.
People need to be educated about responsible dosages, and a doctor would enforce those.
Some people get into the bad habit of upping their dosage every time they have a day where they don't get satisfactorily wired.
That's very dangerous and very foolish.
The last thing you want to do is become a meth head who stays up for days

I've been on Dexamphetamines for 2 years, first months feel crazy, after that you start feeling normal with them.

>People use coffee all of the time.
I work with a machinist that thinks he is god's gift to milling and turning after he smokes pot or uses speed. In fact it only blinds him to how shitting his work is.

That's a good point. I do have a lot of shit to unfuck.

Is Dex supposed to be cleaner or something? Does it give you the same boost as adderall?

Sounds like he just has a huge ego.

staying up for days is fine
its only an issue when you are doing something inane like having a 5 day porn masturbation session

Fuck yea smash out the day.

>Sounds like he just has a huge ego.
No, there is a noticeable change after the drugs. Like a person with multiple personality disorder. The same person just isn't there.

AFAIK adderall is 75% dex, so I doubt there's much difference except that you can get it in extended release form.
What works best for you depends on you yourself.

duh the insane impenetrable blinding confidence it gives you is half the reason you take it

Adderall's "active" ingredient is Dexamphetamine(75%) the rest is other less effective amphetamines to increase the duration.

Dex is pretty shit in my experience, it's much more addictive than methylphenidate and seems to be less effective at actually fixing core ADHD symptoms

hey adderall shill. what's your problem. why do you keep making these adderall threads. adderall is shit and prolonged use can cause psychosis

If your body didn't need rest we wouldn't have evolved to sleep.
It's vital to your well being

i had a period of my life where i was only sleeping every 5-7 days, that lasted 3 years until i got bored of that lifestyle. literally nothing happened, body adapted. humans arent that fragile.

Leo here too, ENTP. Agreed completely.

It's true. I made a post similar to yours about 5 years ago. Now I've come full circle. Enjoy the euphoria while it lasts - I mean that. You will never, ever in your life ever feel as good as when you first start taking adderall. Even if you take a break for a year, you'll never get that first high ever again.

And when it's all over you won't be able to get out of bed without your addies. The trudge back uphill through discipline, proper diet, exercise, meditation and other techniques is extremely difficult. Especially when you're saturated in adderall. Hell, you could probably get your psych to switch back to them at any time. At least I did.

The damage caused by amphetamines come from overstimulation of the receptors in your brain. You won't become brain damaged, but you'll definitely become scarred. And even if you go back to adderall, you end up in the same place as you were when you decided to quit - tired of the anxious psychopath you have become. Or just tired of not being able to do what you took adderall to do in the first place.

It's important that you wean off of it to minimize the damage. Luckily, with adderall in controlled dosages, damage can be slight, and is reversible.

I also suggest you read the story of Faust, who traded his soul for knowledge. If there was a modern re-imagining, it would certainly be a student on adderall.

As somebody who was in the exact same position as you 5 years ago, I wish you good luck. You won't listen. From your stimulated point of view I'm a goddamn moron. And you're right. And so are you.

>Leo
>Myers Briggs

No you're an idiot sorry

it takes the smallest amount of self control, just focus on something else and the hyperfocus kicks in and you forget all about your dick

Then its settled. All drug addicts need to be eliminated.

thosefeelsman.

be grateful you quit there. I got into meth and spent 7 years smoking that.

and the kicker? I still don't have a college degree

They are easy enough to get as is.

Thanks for this post user, this is why i posted my warning here: There are no free lunches in Neuropharmacology.

You can overcome ADHD in adulthood, but it requires re-learning how to do basic/ fundemental task in a neurotypical way, which is no small job.

Stimulants will help get you started, but they will do more harm than good if, instead of re-learning how to do fundamental things neurotypical with natural rewards, you instead learn how to do them with artificial reward of stimulants.

everyone who moved society forward was on something mate, standard humanity is pathetic

This guy is right, I got addicted to adderall for about a 6 month period. It started off with one 20mg IR then at the end of it I was popping 3 30mg XR's a day. It's the best drug ever prescribed, you get shit done, you're happy, and all of your problems that effect you mentally don't exist. But once you're off them you'll think about them a minimum once a day and how anything you do compares to doing it on adderall. I've been off of them for awhile but whenever I do something I slightly enjoy I always think about how much better it would be on stimulants.

it will fail you soon enough like all drugs

Nofap and caffeine worked better for my ADHD.

I'm the opposite, i have to fap before i can get anything done, else im just touching myself constantly and can't think of anything else

im on 20mg IR a day. it works well for learning complex stuff. I learned voice over IP on this shit. The withdrawls are pretty much just like caffiene withdrawls...it happens but as long as i get 10mg a day i feel fine. Also, if you add in nofap, holy shit i feel like i could learn how to fly a plane while fucking a chick with no ED

Been taking them for 15 years now. Fak.

I've been prescribed adderall and vyvanse... they were effective, but they made me nervous and anxious, which I hated. They also made me feel like my heart was about to explode if I tried to lift heavy or do sprints on them.

Got prescribed Wellbutrin instead. Far superior drug IMHO, even though it's supposed to be for depression. No anxiousness, no jitters.

Focalin is the GOAT stim

HAHA good one OP, yes i do believe pumping your body full of destructive chemicals is a good idea ahahaha its only natural for the goys to want to stay under the heel hah\

>good goy take your med
>dont try to improve yourself mentally
>just take the pills goy, it'll be okay
>theres a new TV show coming out goy, dont you want to watch?

i tried adderall.

felt super good. huge dopamine release, "king of the world" feeling.

it makes me super confident and talkative. and probably obnoxious as fuck. like robin williams on cocaine.

lel i wish

lmao xanax and coke makes me want to fight people

i'm a degenerate. a relatively unrepentant one too.

>needing drugs

Degenerates, the lot of you

Modafinil is pretty damn close to a free lunch tho

Getting a script is so fucking easy.

thats why you just take more duh

I guess this is the case for weak people. I'm 15+ years deep in it using it off/on again with no problems. If you have shit self discipline I guess it's an issue though.

>You will never, ever in your life ever feel as good as when you first start taking adderall. Even if you take a break for a year, you'll never get that first high ever again.

Not even remotely true. Hilarious.

>falling for medicine jew

Medfag here, used to use it in med school. It's not worth it OP. Seriously OP, stop it before it's too late. Once you stop using it, you'll feel sleepy and lazy the entire time (even more so than your already existing sleepiness). This is also very bad for your heart.

>Modafinil

I gotta try this.

I'm a dumbass. My IQ is probably 80-something, and there's attention-deficit on top that that.

I'm always trying to find things that'll cure my retardation.

>HE LIKED THE MONTE CRISTO MOVIE AND HAS NEVER READ THE BOOK EVEN THOUGH IT'S HIGH SCHOOL REQUIRED LITERATURE

its not about needing drugs
you are a pale image of your true self and only drugs can bring you out, impossible any other way

pretty much every chad. inventor, wall street banker, leader is on some drug that brings them up

Receptors are becoming desensitized , you can take more but you just increase the rate of desensitisation. There is no way around this problem other than to develop better drugs

Mofadinil feels like caffeine at high dose. Whilst I do it recommend it, it's way better alternation than amphetamines (no addiction and euphoria). Though your piss might smell funny when taking it.

I'm not going above 20mgs. Coffee made my heart beat rapidly, too.

yeah, you're pissing out sulphur when you take modafinil

No this stuff will cause bran damage. Amphetamines willc ause brain damage and the addiction is very bad. It works in stages, very different from other addictions.
Source: Ex Adderall addict.

Energy drinks are completely unregulated, that's a fact. Adderall is strictly controlled and regulated. It is far safer if used responsibly based on this alone.

your brain changed in response to its environment ( homeostasis ) , calling it brain damage is disengeous to say the least.

Have any Sup Forumstards actually gone through ECT for depression/anxiety? I've heard that it actually helped some people with depression.

OP, the issue is that the medicine controls you and your routines more and more over time. I lost my mind on an Adderall like pill and I never touched it since. Very dangerous stuff, just respect it OP otherwise it will destroy you

I'm not sure i agree with the brain damage statement satan, from what i've seen amphetamines increase neuron development significantly ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16338078

Amphetamines degradation of the brain is happening at the receptors

Adderall is awesome. I want to get a prescription for this. How do you do it. I'm seeing my psyche next week. I don't want to make it obvious that I just want some speed. I'm just going to tell her I'm having trouble focusing, mental disorganization, and it's harming my productivity. user I need advice.

Read the thread you degenerate

> In the United States modafinil is classified as a schedule IV controlled substance

That's lame. Wish I could just buy it on the internet. I guess I have to see a doctor?

I've tried piracetam. I took huge doses. It didn't seem to do anything.

plenty of people buy modafinil online no problem. its not a big deal.

but you probably should see a doctor for a real script, many people report the overseas generics for modafinil are shit compared to the real brand.

You could just buy it online (no darknet required). The first time when I got it, I purchased it from an Indian hospital, in which a doctor prescribed it to me. It is very important you a doctor prescribe it for you (prescription from poo in loo doctors works as well). Pretty sure it's the same for USA.

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2670101/
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769923/

This person is not going to take his meds responsibility for much longer. You will pay the toll if you abuse amps. If you do not take routine brakes from the drug your going to do some damage. It's neurotoxic.

you know online pharmacies actually work right

Example of routine breaks? We talking weekends off?

i dont care about non peer reviewed journals
i could cherry pick a counter argument off pubmed too

You are in for a deep ride my friend. Know that amphetamine abuse works in stages and it tricks the mind into thinking the side effects aren't from the drug. This drug is also neurotoxic. It will cause damage in your brain when you use it. You are showing pure and simple signs of abuse and I guarantee you will not take your meds responsibly for much longer.

Sorry to tell you this buddy but after 2-3 more months you aren't even going to be able to tell the difference and then you're going to want a higher dosage. Then lets see if you really take it as prescribed. If you find yourself cheating I fucking strongly recommend you stop taking it.

I have been exactly where you were, happy as a clam, ignorant and ignoring any advice. It had monumental disastrous consequences, but you're different right?

>You are showing pure and simple signs of abuse and I guarantee you will not take your meds responsibly for much longer.
kek, whatever you say leaf.

Better than opiates, the drug of choice for niggers, but all drugs are still Jewish schemes.

Get off of it OP. I've been on it 7 years and can confirm all of the nasty things other anons have stated in this thread. I also think it's given me congestive heart failure, but I've been putting off going to see my doc because I'm afraid of the diagnosis. Definitely something I'm going to have to do soon obviously. By the way, I'm not taking super high amounts. I'm 6'2", 220 lbs, and the most I was ever prescribed per day was 35 mg. I've lowered my dose to 25, but I'm still a nervous wreck most of the time. Good luck OP, please heed this advice.

This.

When I first use it, I told myself I wouldn't abuse it. I was only using it once per week during uni, and it helped me alot. However, even with once per week, the tolerance builds up really quick (whilst uni workload is ever increasing). In order to keep up with the "focus" effect, I would have to up my dosage, and next I know, I was on 30-40 mg dexamphetamine 3-4 times per week. I knew I was addicted and stopped immediately. Once I went cold turkey, fuck me, the withdrawal was brutal, I couldn't stay awake most of the time and feels unmotivated... that was a year ago and even now, I still get the "sleepiness" feeling most of the time.

Seriously OP, it is not worth it. At all.

drugs are degenerate

if you need drugs to function you are a sub human failure who should NOT reproduce

If I find myself ever going above 20mgs I'll stop but I'm not worried in the least. Fuck sake they prescribe it to kids and they reach adulthood with little issue.

Tell that to all of working society and see how that goes over.

Add omega 3s to that list m8

take note op. some people cant handle drugs.
if you think this is you, stop now.
else have fun babe

>Fuck sake they prescribe it to kids and they reach adulthood with little issue.

OOoooo boy ... top kek. Just look up on youtube on adderall stories, most of the addicts are the ones that have been using it since childhood.

Look, I know I'm not going to deter you from using amphetamine as I believe you have already made up your mind, but please, do try your best to stop if you see yourself going more than 20 mg.

The craving for more than 20 mg will hit you pretty hard once your tolerance builds up and 20mg feels like nothing.

you guys are convincing me to stay away from the hard drugs/amphetamines.

maybe my shitty cognition/focus is just due to my shitty diet and being low T.

i'll see if mental boosts can come from food and herbs. i've read a lot of good things about cruciferous vegetables. sulforphane from broccoli sprouts is an alledged nootropic.

and broccoli is estrogen-antagonistic: it helps rid the body of estrogen, which in turn will boost T.

Truthfully, I have more trouble with controlling porn use than I do drugs. Drugs are fucking nothing to be, but once I'm watching porn, forget it, no control to be found.

to me*

I will. I don't fuck around and binge on drugs.

chekt

And I'm the opposite