On a serious note. Is it even possible to convert a liberal...

On a serious note. Is it even possible to convert a liberal? I've tried red pilling friends who voted Hillary but they're literally to stubborn to agree with me.

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Not with that huge wide head. Bitch needs to put her head in a vice for a few days.

Liberals have the minds of young children. They can't be reasoned with in the same way you do adults. They have to be forced to mature. Only then can they be reasoned with.

its next to impossible to convince someone to change their minds directly
You have to delude them into thinking they arrived at their new position themselves

They usually uncuck themselves after starting to pay taxes, looking for an affordable home and a place suitable to raise kids.

focal length, learn about it, faggot.

>tfw this bitch looks like a feminine version of me

>I have to share this with everyone... I ran into a friend I haven't seen in a very long time earlier today.......we made some small talk, and then she said to me, "How do you like what's going on with that SOB Trump...I said, "What do you mean"! She said, "Don't you watch the news"? I knew then there was going to be a problem...I said, "Of course I do". She said, "well then you know". I said "yes". she said, "and"?, I said, " and what", I thought here it comes,... I was right!!!! I couldn't help myself but I started laughing...she said, "what's so funny"? I then really started to laughing. I couldn't help myself.. I just got into a laughing fit!!!..She said, "oh no, you're not one that drank the orange cool aid, are ya"? I couldn't stop laughing because she had this maniacal look in her eyes which made me laugh harder. By then, she said, that she was sorry that she ran into me because I ruined her day and walked away shaking her head....and by then , I was hysterically laughing...I left the store and bought nothing...lol... Oh Well, another friend I lost!

I actually agree with this. Most Hillary supporters still live with their parents, including my retarded friends.

You aren't doing it right.
I converted everyone in my office to the Trump side, even ardent Berniefags, I just had to talk about the declining median household income, and the gutting of the middle and lower classes while companies move factories overseas to increase profit margins. Now those two people in the office who are still anti-trump look foolish as fuck. Their only point now is that Donald Trump doesn't have the temperment to be president. Pretty subjective shit.

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Yes, but it's tricky. You can't reason someone out of a position they weren't reasoned into, so you have to brainwash or meme them to death

You have to use sarcasm, famalam. Just start saying the most inane, leftist drivel imaginable, and they'll catch on. Say something like "Immigration is great, I mean, look what happened to the Native Americans, It's about time white people are forced to give up their lands and culture to foreigners. I mean, It's only fair, right?"

No. they are given a different set of information(less information), and they are told not to look for information outside the MSM.
The right knew obama was a child of the East-West program, a CIA front run out of a university in Hawaii. So they gave us info that was untrue but simulate the real info on Obama.
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at 2:22:53 alex said that "they leaked obama's harvard law review card showing born in Kenya,
because he wasn't born in Kenya, just like pizzagate"

most right wingers never make it to the end of a pysop, but left wingers are kept from even seeing past the first layer of deception

On a serious note. Is it even possible to convert a republican? I've tried blue pilling friends who voted Trump but they're literally to stubborn to agree with me.

Yes, I know because I sadly used to be one. Although it might also be a no, since I don't understand how anyone can STILL be a liberal at this point. It seems anyone who any common sense at all has jumped right off that retard train.

>the part where you said nothing to confirm or deny any opinions you had about anything and she automatically gets angry
wew

That's what happened to me.

Regrettably, it didn't also happen to my wife, who is so thoroughly programmed we're getting divorced.

I was born a nazi, so I never had to be converted. Those who you cannot convert don't fucking matter, 'cause it will be virtually impossible to be a liberal in the upcoming years. Facts speak for themselves every single day.

Can't believe I'm about to write this but...

> ¡Yeb! was right. Slow and stead wins the race.

You have to take a slow but steady approach. You can't get in their face and scream things at them, even if they're all true. Their brain will go into lockdown mode. You have to be patient and gain ground little by little, dropping small pearls of wisdom during everyday moments. Over time they'll have come so far that they won't recognize their old beliefs even if they still hold on to the liberal label. Eventually they'll drop that too.

Or you can drop them off on MLK Drive at 2am. That's the quick conversion route but often ends up with grievous harm done to them.

really depends on the individual. some people are beyond saving. these very people are the reason communism doesnt work, and inevitably ends in gulags and death. deep down they are just lazy pieces of shit and cling to any ideology that they believe masks this reality. or in the case of liberalism, helps sustain their existence.

I have a roommate. he's a smart guy and we used to be best friends. we're still friends, but something went wrong at some point, and he became a Hillary supporting, virtue signaling vegan liberal. he even now works in a minority school district. hearing the stories about his students is all the redpill you could ask for.

don't try to convince them that you're right. convince them that they agreed with you all along.

Probably because you're the one doing the heavy lifting, paying all the bills. You have to train your bitch. Video very related.

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>Stop browsing your racist board and come snuggle with me

>Regrettably, it didn't also happen to my wife, who is so thoroughly programmed we're getting divorced.

i'll bet there's a bit more to it than that. sexual stuff, etc.

Why try to red-pill people? it's a waste of time

Even if you make sense with your arguments they will refuse to accept your opinion because being a trump supporter or even being against certain things is not socially acceptable.

The mainstream meteor controls the public opinion and what is deemed acceptable and what isn't. Your arguments may be valid and they may consider taking your side until they turn on TV, Go on facebook, talk to other normies and all they hear is propaganda.

kek, real though, its almost impossible to get rid of the redpill, but you can move from bluepill to redpill easily obviously.

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>On a serious note. Is it even possible to convert a liberal?

No, not if they've ever explored radical leftism and taken any of it seriously.

It's the only way to save western civilization, its hard work to undue the bluepill but if you do you basically do your part in hurting das juden. The saddest part is that basically only normie pilled "lol muh gmos adn iluminati secret soicety" can be brought to the light. SJWs are lost completely.

She's legit pretty in this one. What a waste.

>Is it even possible to convert a liberal?

Of course. Just give it time.

Well, most intelligent people can't easily be made to adopt the political positions of a common street thug who cares only for his own interests.

You say this, and then in the next thread you proclaim scientific consensus to be fabrications of the left because your mind is too small to understand the concepts in question. It's a well known fact that the intellectual top percentile is dominated by liberals, while the opposite end of the spectrum is inhabited almost exclusively by your kind.

Is she the queen of Sup Forums?

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what the fuck do you think?

I live in DC and I go on dates with liberal females who have all been to the feminazi march and shit. It's incredible how fucking stupid they are.

This one bitch yesterday I went out with, she worked at a refugee camp overseas. She told me a story about how they were getting more radicalized and "isis-y" and that there were multiple rapes and a bombing there recently. I told her it's a "good thing that shit isn't coming to America." She emphatically agreed.

TWO FUCKING MINUTES later, we talk about the travel ban I tell her I don't really care too much about it and she launches into a harangue about how "America has a moral duty to help Syrians because they have nowhere else to go" and all this other bullshit.

I just smiled and said "yeah, I can kinda see your point, guess I didn't really think about it that way..." We banged a few hours later.

BAKA it's such a shame, she ain't learned a damn thang.

Of course it's possible. I'm a former dem turned Trumpamaniac, and I know many like me. I still haven't heard of a republican turned dem in this election tho

>convert a liberal
take them to gehtto movie theaters and malls

I tried to explain gun rights to my friends and why having them is important on a fundamental level, for more than just self defence

They responded with:
>I don't care about that, it's literally impossible for our government to become a dictatorship (Spoiler alert: It's not)

I even gave them facts and evidence showing violence overall goes up when guns are banned, and that the leftists misrepresent this by using specific wording: That "GUN VIOLENCE" is going down, without mentioning the subsequent rise in other kinds of violence.

They just don't care. They'd rather be mainstream cucks than have an educated opinion, especially one contrary to the popular one and make anyone who disagrees into a pariah.

I've tried and tried, and they just won't budge.

I've been trying to redpill my liberal ass girlfriend for 6 months now. It's not working.

Some, yes. Most, no.

It takes time, patience and re-affirmation of facts. Over here, when people complain about Trump all I do is simply remind them he was democratically elected (and we had no legal right to say who they should have elected to boot), to fight against democracy is fascism and that it is in everyones interest that he is a good president.

It's like speaking a different language, one more rooted in moralistic principles as opposed to rationality. You have to expose their moral inconsistencies (Ben Shapiro got it right by saying that the state enforces its laws with the threat of violence) and flip it on its head.

I've also been working on a short way to explain why small government and a free market is the best way for society to operate in 4 or 5 graphs. If there's interest I'll explain it.

Failing that, if they really are on their moral high horse remind them that the clothes on their back were made by underpaid overworked child labour in Asia.

>TWO FUCKING MINUTES later, we talk about the travel ban I tell her I don't really care too much about it and she launches into a harangue about how "America has a moral duty to help Syrians because they have nowhere else to go" and all this other bullshit.

>I just smiled and said "yeah, I can kinda see your point, guess I didn't really think about it that way..." We banged a few hours later.
This is why women are inferior. They've only ever had to argue UP UNTIL the point where a man was in danger of not getting laid if he persisted. Women are so breathtakingly out of their depth in every conceivable way, that if they weren't such cunts, I'd almost feel sorry for them.

The best thing you can do to redpill libshits is just let them grow up and have real jobs, families, and responsibilities.

They are so incredibly stupid that they think conservatives are going to "die off" if they just keep waiting. They don't realize that they become the conservatives.

Also encouraging libshits to buy guns is great way for them to accidentally redpill themselves.

Muslims just rape them and they seem to respond well to that.

Stop calling communists liberals.

Yes. I used to be one. Dark times indeed.

It's called the golden ratio, faggot

If you didn't grow out of liberalism after high school it's too late.

In school, the breadth of the average kid's political knowledge is that liberals are nice and respect diversity, while conservatives are evil racist nazis led around by soulless white businessmen.

If you actually start taking interest in politics and still think this way a few years later, you're either retarded or weren't interested at all and just want to virtue signal.

"moral duty to help Syrians" for the wrong reason.

Dumb bitch was allegedly at a camp, exposed to these people: their plight, their stories, their incessant anti-Israeli rhetoric. She comes up with that as the best argument to back up the case for importing refugees. Not that the US has been helping to create the situation in the first place, but that they have nowhere else to go. Not to mention the instant cognitive dissonance.

Yeah, that's DC girls for ya. Vapid, stupid, yet formally educated. You must pull in a fair amount of dosh to have nailed her tho.

If it's a White liberal just keep repeating ''White Genocide'' mantra and eventually they will heard it too many times to deny it.

It is genetic, you will realize when you become 30

would dress up as Elizabeth.

thank you

yes

You either get red pilled very slowly, which means you were always looking for answers anyway. Or something disastrous happens in your life and you stumble upon the red pill and everything just clicks. That's the only two options, you are either already looking or traumatized by something.

You can't force people to take the red pill, people don't adopt beliefs when forced. It is technically possible to tell them all the facts and hope that one day in the future everything clicks when (((they))) fuck up. But it's not recommended.

I think men are more likely to be red pilled because women are such cunts and walking disasters nowadays. Odds are you get cheated on, divorce raped or generally scolded by women if you are a guy, even Chad. Women have it easy mostly, the only real traumatizing things they could experience is a psychopath maiming them emotional and dumping them or some real life trauma event like 9/11. But generally women only stumble upon answers when confronted by the latter, if not at all.

I've seen people trying to red pill other people and it's usually the same type of guy. They usually aren't red pilling people out of actual concern but rather want to gloat about how they are woke and their target is not. It's like having a god complex and you want to awaken some lowly pleb. Sometimes it's a guy who generally wants to make a difference or wants to get a guy/girl 'on his team' (like I've tried red pilling my dad) but even then there's always some form of condescension found in the way you try persuade the other person.

She's hawt!

Yes it is. But it requires freedom of thought and "intelligence". I was a liberal a year ago, and now I'm here.

You can't "convert" them, you got to give them the tools to see through (((their))) lies so they think its them making their own opions. If you try to force your opions on someone they will not accept any of your ideas.
t. Redpilled over 40 people durring the great meme war

What was the turning point?

You can never convince people to change politial beliefs on your own, they need to come to that conclusion themselves. All agreeing facts are absolute truth, all disagreeing facts are opposition propaganda.

care to red pill me on focal length/golden ratio user? I always found pictures and/or mirrors to be inaccurate when comparing size (my dick size for example). pls im serious no bully

>I tried to explain gun rights
mate there is no right to guns. A civilized society is MUCH better off with highly restrictive gun laws. most guns are designed for one thing - killing human beings.

most humans are not rational. muslims made me realize this...

Considering that you probably started with:

>HEY! DID YOU KNOW THAT ALL MAJOR MEDIA NETWORKS ARE OWNED BY JEWS?

It's not possible.

Our politics are formed through our life experiences, learned and lived, and the worldview that comes of it all.
It's usually not possible to "convert" someone on the left or right to the other side. It is, however, possible to move someone to the middle. For example, I know a girl who loves Bernie and I was able to convince her that while his socialist worldview was inadequate, some of his stances (single-payer healthcare, more aid for education) could be achieved but only through the success of the economy. After all, what economic activity is going to be taxed to pay for it all?!?!? So while she's still for single-payer healthcare, she's now much more conscious of the role of the private sector and the ability to pay for it.

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They're profoundly unstable.
No.

This. If they are about gut-feelings you need to water your redpills slowly but regularly so that they do not feel a sudden shift in their way of thinking.

Not really. Only if:
1. The person gets directly affected by the problem the right-wings are talking about.
2. Reverse brainwashing for months maybe years
3. If you're a good looking right-winger, you could find a liberal girl and turn her.. only if you're alpha enough though, for obvious reasons.

What you need is a purge.

>On a serious note. Is it even possible to convert a liberal?
Yes, but a lot depends on them. The same way it is with conservatives, liberals are varied people with different traits, interests, intelligence, approach to different opinions. Some will be more reasonable and you'll be able to reason with them better, and some - much less so.
In case of your friends it also may be dependant on you - how your friends see you and your beliefs, whether you are convincing and charismatic enough, if you're using arguments that are effective against them.

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I'm interested if you've got it.

this girl will be submissive to any dude who gives her a good dicking

Her head's wider than the wage gap.

They're make or break, and it usually takes several tries.

I've had plenty of successes and plenty of failures. Ironically, I managed to get commies redpilled by looking at the degeneracy they have to deal with in their own ranks. I get libertarians redpilled by them realizing the system they propose creates degeneracy in the first place and has no real defense against collectivists ideologically or philosophically. Dropping the NAP is the first step to making them stronger people.

Degenerates are break almost every time. The best way to go about it is to get them to realize they have an identity beyond their private parts and sometimes their skin color. Having deep, friendly, open conversations is usually the best way. These people only register the feels. Listening is sometimes more important than talking in the first stages of patterning them back to normal identity integrity.

It sounds weird to talk about it like this, but it can be done.

yes. i am living proof. blieved the msm because i never researched. once i looked into it everything was totally different. ty alex jones, pol, and other sources. believed

Why even bother? You are either right or wrong and same goes for them. So just make sure you are right. if you are right truth seekers will acknowledge you. Sheep won't. Don't pick a side except truth.

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I agree with all the other anons, but you should remember language is an important part- most terms and ideas associated with parties by (((the media))) aren't really what they claim.

'Liberal' by its actual meaning wants small government and more freedom, which leftists don't want. Same with freedom in general, actually is a very anti-democrat idea whether it's applied to speech, religion, property, guns, etc.

So bear that in mind. People like Prager and Klavan (despite jewiness of the former) are a lot more effective in spotting how to fix problems and turn liberals than the traditional places. You have to remember they are like babby, and can't properly reason. So you first have to get them to actually see the truth and realize that conservatives are kinder/more generous/more free/all that other shit and then get them to reason. Hard to do and for most dedicated leftists it's gonna be a trek, but hey, anything is possible in this timeline

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I got into a debate over the whole Richard Spencer thing. Argued that resorting to violence against people you politically disagree with is wrong, free speech is sacred, etc. The guy I was debating said I was starting to sound like a Nazi sympathizer. It's black-and-white with me or against me with these people. The guy's arguments were all based on emotion and he played the Holocaust card since apparently his Grandparents are Jewish. They have serious problems being objective and understanding their actions have consequences (i.e. setting a precedent of assaulting people you disagree with means people can assault them using the same justifications).

It's like talking to someone raised in a cult, it takes time

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man abbos are not human are they

Be a chad, libtard women has no defence for that.

They're in school on their parent's or the bank's dime. Once they lose the structure of university life and have to pave their own way they often start to relent once they realize that most regular people struggle, but also don't bitch about it as loudly as possible.

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Age and experience.

Beautiful women such as augfrog, pbuh, won't change, as their looks and manic-pixie nature will ensure hardships are short lived. She will never truly economically struggle, always having a provider or father figure happy lend aid in exchange for love. She will always find welcome among other manic liberal groups, and any progressive non-profit will keep her employed as looks and personality are worth a fortune.

Everyone wants a manic pixie, just as they're a pleasure to have around.

Manic-pixies dontchange, because thwyre the best and never are required to confront logical shortcomings of blind compassion.

Maybe if a oak of dindus raped her, or something insanely traumatic.
Is rather she stay a lovable but wrong pixie, than suffer, though.

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That's the reality of it. People who've hung to that belief system after the last five years are willfully subservient to it. The great access to information that basically everyone in America has means that even the moderately curious will have stumbled upon the lie at some point. That's all it really takes - once the idea that you've been deceived sticks with you for a moment you're bound to discover enough truths to break the brainwashing.

For women liberals they just cock carousel until they land somewhere stable. Never changing, but also never actually having real thought out convictions in the first place.

Red pills are a major turn-off my dude
>Huh that guy's a bit weird, would not bang

No, it is not possible. Progress happens one funeral at a time.

Reminds me of a story I once saw on here. Dude worked in a law firm, had a female intern from the local university. She got some paperwork wrong, and he told her softly but sternly to fix it. She broken down crying, saying nobody had ever talked to her like that. He had the power to fire her and did so on the spot. This chick wanted to be a prosecutor, too.

Damn you described me.

pixies belong imprisoned in bottles

The only way to redpill those libtards is through trauma.

The condescension is actually helpful. What's happening is that the liberal/commie viewpoint has been dominant for decades and they are used to feeling superior - it's the basis for their allegiance to the idea. When they see that other people look down on them now for being on that team it forces them to question their allegiance. What they want more than anything is status and validation.

>Is it even possible to convert a liberal?
they are not liberal because ideology user, grow up

The left converts people with emotional bullying
The correct side converts people because their redpills are real

>When the redpills are construed as bullying by the left... :^)

It is possible. A lot of us used to be liberals.

Depends on intelligence level and commitment to principles.

I was in H.S. during the buildup of the Iraq war and my super liberal Dad railed against the war ever night at dinner.

I was kinda into mild conspiracies and anti US authoritarianism and civil rights violations like GITMO back then

I was stoned when I voted for Obama in college and I wept like a baby during his victory speech (also high as fuck)

It only took a few weeks for me to realize he was a fraud, though. All the Goldman Sachs appointments and not following the constitution and perpetual war.

Then I studied abroad and a friend got me high and showed me a conspiracy doc. I became redpilled on 9/11 and the federal reserve and one world gov't conspiracies.

THEN, in 2012 I decided to volunteer phone bank for RP even though I was still a liberal. This was because I was tired of the military and prison industrial complexes and I believed him raising these issues was important. I red his book "Ron Paul Revolution" and met tons of young libertarians and I was assimilated and bought in.

Flash forward to 2015/2016 and due to Trump and Pol I have embraced populism, nationalism and border security. I don't even know how libertarian I am anymore. Straight up non-interventionism doesn't seem very practical. And since we don't live in a libertarian society pretending we do doesn't make much sense either. Listening to Stef during my own transition while we were reaching the same conclusions was an eye opening.

Long story short: yes it can be done. It certainly is not easy. I'm not sure how I did it growing up in California.

One issue with leftists is that they don't regard people who disagree as just wrong, but evil. They are the enlightened, and those who oppose their methods hate poor people and minorities.