Developments Feb 13 >Battle of Dara'a has begun in the morning >Violent clashes between HRT & JAA in northern Hama >Qabasin and Bzaah in ISIS hands >Tigers, NDF advance in Tadef >Deir ez-Zor military airfield ISIS attack repelled. >FSA captured Zahra Mosque in Al Bab >UN/RedCross/Crescent in Ar-Rastan, delivering aid to 107 500 civilians >SAA targeted Euphrates Shield in south of Al-Bab >Afrin Kurds deny reconcilation agreement with government >ISIS Vbied ES forces between Al Bab and Bzaah >Clashes between civilians and Ahrar Al Sham seeking passage through town >SAA assault is being prepared on Eastern Ghouta & Souran >Clashes between rebels and SAA in west of Maan
Jihadis clash - SAA laughs: "Two Jund al-Aqsa suicide bombers blew-up themselves against #AQ (HTS) in Kfarzita & send a VBIED to #AQ in al-Tamana'a". >twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/831016953309392899
>Liwa al-Quds confirmed 24 KIA, while alAmaq earlier claimed 28, IS loses unknown
>24 KIA suffered by YPG in the western part of the front in the Raqqa operation.
>Exact numbers unknown, at least 20+ rebels killed in Dara'a operations, while SAA suffered at least 4 KIAs
>Western Mosul is about to start, floating bridges appear to be transported for a new offensive
Israel too, you should've been sent to Madagascar.
Adrian Fisher
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Dominic Adams
cth for natties
Brayden King
That's not muscle that's faaaaaaaaat
Chase Taylor
Canada was a much much bigger one.
Jaxon Davis
>European Military >Arab Military >Russian Navy
What are some more memes?
>inb4 US anything you other fags can't do shit
Juan Cooper
nah mate, 100% protein in these badboys
Daniel Nelson
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Jace Cruz
IS VBIED successfully repelled by Turkish APC
Joshua Martinez
humanity was a mistake
Chase Stewart
Why would western media give "positive" PR of Syria ?
It is the same media that started the deamonization of Assad.
After watching Hyper normalisation, I learned that the opinions of western media is absolutely worthless since they are ever changing, depending on the orders of their masters, as demonstrated by the example of Gaddafi, in the mentioned documentary.
If I remember correctly, first he was demonstrated as dangerous, then a good guy, then the fake chemical weapons, the. The previous good guy became a dictator who had to be destroyed.
Isaiah Peterson
>repelled So the APC sacrificed itself? Seems a waste when you could just use turkoroaches to shield the vehicle.
Lucas Torres
Oh yes, that was totally thanks to the APC.
Kayden Edwards
waste of bullets
Lincoln Howard
I dunno man we've got a pretty shit track record since ww2, as the guys always eager for war but unable to win one. We don't even have the biggest one anymore, China does.
Easton Martin
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Connor Turner
How long will it take Turkey to capture Al-Bab?
Josiah Brown
It is actually synthol. Those guys are pretty much dead men walking.
Asher Diaz
r8 this.
1) SAA starts campaign from Suwayda towards the desert, and reaches Euphrates from Aleppo. 2) Moves north and takes gas fields. 3) Reaches Raqqa, preventing K*rd farm animal from land-grabbing, and connects to Aleppo front. 4) Having another supply route to Aleppo, ditches Ithiria road and lets the IS around Hama have access to Greater Idlib. 5) IS fucks up the Idlib rebels as many of them defect to their side.
Henry Hernandez
let's hope these anti-ship missiles aren't as good as reported USA could be in trouble if the navy is out of the equation
Christian Perry
>Americans winning wars
Oliver Adams
Lol gaddafi didn't kill literally half a million people and he was fighting the Muslim brotherhood backed by Qatar and CIA
Gaddafi was a hero not a murderer like assad
Evan Nelson
In 1933 Hitler proposed sending all the German Jews to Madagascar, gentelman of Berliner Tagelblatt called him an arrogant cretin, and poof, Shoah :^(
Christian Anderson
>Now you have the option to cut the supply lines and everyone of them becomes a suicide bomber in a SVBIED or You have the option to leave them a corridor to retreat so when they run out of ammo/manpower/medicine they can regroup at alBab. I mean you dont need to capture it.
Set up 5-6 MSTA artillery to the west of the city and 5-6 more to east of the city. And shell them for 4-6 hours a day, 4-5 days in a row from different sides. youtube.com/watch?v=oAD-P6oJXfg&t=114s They will either die, or will be forced to go on suicidal attack to get out. Whats the NATO analog of MSTA? Paladin? Not sure if turkish Firtina will do, probably it is also fine.
Instead they are doing that autism for 3 months, almost like every building there is a historical monument.
Jonathan Cooper
>K*rd farm animal I rate it Turk/Kosem Haha the only war they won made owning niggers illegal lel
Nicholas Baker
(I know). Actually a sweet piece of land. bigger too. but black people would have been an issue, like the Palestinians. Should've gone to Argentina.
Camden Phillips
Turks are just scared to face ISIS in urban combat.
Adam Bailey
isnt a whole south eastern part basically desert and hard to advance in/not get guerilla'd by isis?
Evan Kelly
>We don't even have the biggest one anymore, China does. >china >being this bluepilled W E W
Those anti-ship missiles require targeting information from scouting planes
>sweden and poland
Dylan Gonzalez
>supports IS >loves Gaddafi >Hates Assad >is a christian nationalist
You are a very, very weird person
Ayden Russell
very good.
if i ask you 'do u still beat your wife when u drunk?' what are u gonna say. in the bants world making a response is difficult, I suppose you would say something like 'i have never beaten my wife and I don't drink'. But the average joe is going to waste time on saying silly things like I didn't.....U didn't what? You didn't stop beating her?'
In the same way amnesty has presented heresay. I doubt the Syrian government response would get any air time at all. The news report might say, government responses have been deemed to lack credibility, and leave it at that. It's a game that they have been set up to lose. And it's a game they don't have to spend resources or time on. If Amnesty have a case it will end up in a court somewhere sometime and be examined by experts. If amnesty has no case then the syrian government has spent it's time on more important stuff that matters. And amnesty will look stupid. Because one day, when amnesty says something like 1 million iraqi's died as a result of the us led invasion, some american politician is going to say, but didn't amnesty lie about Syria? These people are not credible. It's true.
I hope for amnesties sake that they have a credible story.
But for the syrians, the court of western manipulated public opinion, is not a court they care about. Whatever they say will just be twisted, or dismissed without being shown.
Evan Rivera
Yes.
Hunter Bell
Anyone have a reliable estimate on IS' numbers in Syria. No autismo claims of 150,000 or more. Their numbers have to be hurting after mosul, DeZ and raqqa offensives
Kevin Brooks
See this youtube.com/watch?v=i302vaHNiZs Their tunnels are deep, reinforced and possible to be hit only by some sick amount of thermobaric shelling/air raids and contrary to popular belief civilians still live there - you can guess how thermobaric shelling would end in that case. Maaaybe if Turks gave these to FSAlqaeda (no media shitstorm about muh Turks killing civilians), but I don't think giving Jihadis advanced MLRS would be a good idea, it would probably be used against SAA sooner or later.
Nicholas Cruz
Gaddafi didn't even get a chance to murder anyone. Lybia had no allies. He was an extremely easy target, and for some reason, the Clintons wanted Lybia so bad.
Anthony Harris
I see, I don't know a lot about military hardware but they still could be dangerous in theory i guess
Jeremiah Wilson
>american intelligence >american intelligence community
Kevin Jackson
That is why it is easy to advance there. FSA fags took huge swathes of it in like days.
Luke Bailey
Army must have roads and supply routes Mehmet, sending them in a desert and forcing them to march through it is not a good idea.
Chase Bell
China has more hardware and men than we do m8, that's just a fact. The only argument to be made is wether we have have quality over quantity and after decades of pork barrel spending on ridiculous projects im not sure it's safe to make that claim.
Austin Allen
Anyaways I prefer Jerusalem being shared by Jews, Muslims & Christians than only in Arab hands. Disgusting thought, blergh. But Madagascar really wasn't a bad idea, at these times no one knew what genocide means and blacks were treated like circus animals, so it was indeed possible.
Grayson Russell
HEY EVERYBODY
LETS STOP FEEDING MALAYSIA TROLL TREATS
Jaxson Gray
They tried 1) last year, it did not work for them very well. And this was before ISIS went full retard with their meme tactics.
Kayden Watson
Reminder that Gaddafi hosted Idi Amin Dada for 10 years. But the reason he went down was estabilishing a gold-backed currency & abandoning the standard of petrodollar. Fuck US, international terrorism desu
Jaxson Howard
Yeah it's great from a practical POV but no historical ties etc. Honestly should've gone with the H'aavara agreement.
Kayden White
And if he did it would only be islamists He was a good man Fuck hillary
You think my views are weird that's fine
Samuel Nelson
Well those shelters are looking solid, but because the city is small, it is actually a trivial task to destroy the buildings with the enrances. And you dont need to kill them all in the shelling, 50-70% would be enoth. But yeah i got your idea, iam just really confused why the "turkish army" is using a strategy of a small islamic warband.
Evan Cooper
>hardware Yeah they have lots of crap that doesn't work, no navy, and an airforce that Japan could beat.
I don't know how you could be this bluepilled about China and post on /sg/ It's just embarrassing.
Also US military spending has been declining since 1992
Brody Jackson
I tend to think that the reason Gaddafi went down was that he was a dude who lost a war against motherfucking Chad of all countries. He had problems up there, I'm tellin' ya.
Austin Parker
It's alaways too late
Carter Murphy
entrances*
Adam Wilson
Isn't the equipment of the average US soldier 15 times more expensive than the chinese ones?
Aaron Martin
He is not qn intelligent man. He was jerked like a puppe.
I don't think the gold thing was ever implemented.
Owen Wood
>Developments Feb 13 Also >ISIS BTFO Kurds in Western Raqqa >Iraqis completed preparations to storm West Mosul.
Jaxon Jones
Realistically three more weeks of heavy bombing and offensives should finally take it for good
Benjamin White
>Gaddafi went down was that he was a dude who lost a war against motherfucking Chad of all countries. Gaddafi went down was that he was a dude who lost a proxy war against motherfucking France and the USA in Chad of all countries.* but still,fucking chad
Christopher Bell
I'd imagine that's a low ball. All our projects are vastly more expensive than they should be.
They have more planes and boats than we do, though a surface navy is a bit outdated at this point. They also have far more people willing to die for a cause and enough nukes to assure we wipe out most of mankind should we ever engage in war.
Blake Bailey
Why not? This war is long out of its gorilla warfare phase.
What? They didn't try to advance in Suwayda the last year.
Ethan Nelson
Digits confirm :^) >the "turkish army" is using a strategy of a small islamic warband I thought about the strategy of using Jihadi proxies and things that come to my mind are: >wasting rebel manpower instead of sending them to Idleb >trying it out for the first time, they didn't know what will happen and plans for Euphrates Shield were made about 4-6 months before the operation >it was a pressure from Putin to not use TAF for this operation to not directly endanger Assad's authority
Chances that Isis will cut the long route are like 90%. They are trying to cut the only road to Aleppo like once every week. >wasting rebel manpower Gotta agree that it is good Bogumił, i was just deluded enough to await some army action.
Ian Harris
Sorry then.
Logan Nguyen
Make sure to stay hydrated.
Michael White
>They didn't try to advance in Suwayda the last year. Correct
But if SAA moves with a column from Sweida towards Abu Kamal then there are 2 events we have to keep in mind 1 (trigger warning) Tabqah offensive 2 NSyA raid to Abu Kamal
There in the desert, a column of vehicles can get easily rekt by ISIS. And, you need eyes over the border as well as Iraqi desert/Qaim are very close
You would need proper Russian cooperation, good coverage and airforces standing by. Hilariously, the USAF told the NSyA that theyd be standing by, but they ended up being busy elsewhere and this is one big reason why these merc goons got rekt by ISIS
Aaron Jones
It's time to go home.
Jaxon Thompson
yeah not in the toyota wars ( except for some surprise raids on libyan air bases but this is unconfirmed) but france intervened like 2 times in the 70s also send french foreign legion to chad in the earliest conflicts
Connor Baker
Was the battle of Dara started by the rebels or the Government. Who is winning?
Thomas Garcia
If the "army action" will come, it will be related to Euphrates Sword, aimed at Afrin & Manbij, and it will be a blood bath both for regular TAF conscripts and Rojava Kurds, but so far we can still hope for a peaceful solution.
Ayden Perez
The hell is up with the KSA? Do they really need to bring their fucking goats to battle with them?
Parker Perez
That road is pretty thin.
>Tabqah offensive
That was a long salient. I am talking about cleaning the whole desert of IS, all of the painted parts.
Also NySA are a bunch of retarded inbred mongs, pretty sure even SAA are more competent than them. Since Iraqi desert is about to be cleared soon, it will be even easier to defend the territory from IS.
Jaxson Hughes
whats it like where you live?
Angel Jackson
>Was the battle of Dara started by the rebels or the Government. As you may already expect its impossible to say "they shot us first" is of course said by both sides.
Either way, it seems like the rebels afaik have secured some (minor?) gains in Daraa city
But seriously, the southern front rebels would get slowly but surely rekt if proper forces were sent there.
Hudson Hill
Very good advice thank you for reminding me I haven't been drinking enough water, I am too lazy to go to the shop I often felt dehydrated this last week But today I went to the shop and bought two litres of water so today I have been hydrated
I will remember to drink water more from now on
Levi Martin
Gives them motivation.
Kevin Murphy
Belgian Kurd that u?
Angel Miller
Okay fair enough, yeah with a secured southern flank and a broader offensive, with good airsupport, they might be able to get somewhere. but they cant rush it imo
also think itll still take a while before that neighbouring area of Iraq will be fully retaken
Joshua Stewart
>its impossible to say >"they shot us first" is of course said by both sides. >Was the battle of Dara started by the rebels or the Government.
Actually it was started by rebels by detonating a tunnel bomb & 2 SVBIEDs driven by Jordanians. Pic is tunnel bomb under SAA HQ
Nolan Peterson
Comfy. NO electricity at the moment, but router and LEDs are on thanks to a big DC battery that has a seemingly endless life.
Government electricity is on maybe for 6 hours for every 24 hours which is enough to recharge that battery.
Matthew Thomas
No. He doesn't speak like a fanatic
Nathan Sanders
Nope, absolutely not >tfw belgium flag means PKK shill on /sg/
John Ross
err Im pretty sure there was talk of some minor clashes back and forth before that, right?
but sure, the actual serious battle was indeed started by rebels, heck as Maghrebi said some sources were stating there was an offensive coming
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Can you use the generators that run on oil to produce electricity, or is there an oil shortage as well?
Asher Ortiz
Interesting. Do you play vidya? Weird question but your situation is incredibly interesting to me.
Carson Butler
did you hear about Algeria shipping oil to Syria
Aiden Myers
There is also a belgian Erdogan shill to balance him
Daniel Taylor
>there was talk of some minor clashes back and forth before that, right? Yes, every few days clashes happened there, altough not in the city itself, but rather on the outskirts. >Maghrebi said some sources were stating there was an offensive coming It's true (at least the reports), SAA was prepering an offensive, it was to be led by special forces.
Ryder Smith
I know, that guy was bragging about how he earned the minimum wage,kek They somehow never post at the same time
Carter Allen
I thought the reports were talking about a REBEL offensive instead
