The Political Compass

Someone explain this thing to me. How does it work? What does it mean? Where is Trump? Where is Hillary?

I'm 12.

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What is the difference between authoritarian and libertarian?

Right and left?

>I'm 12

Economic left = Restricted economy by the authority. Economy is heavily influenced by politics
Economic Right = Economy is not/barely influenced by the authority. Free market.
Authoritarian = Statism. The government decides how the people behave and/or act in mindset.
Libertarian = Liberty of conscience. The governemnt does not infere with the conscience of man. Man decides for himself what he/she/it believes.

Economic left/authoritarian = Communism
Economic Left/Libertarianism = Left Liberalism (has no real definition)
Economic Right/authoritarian = Fascism
Economic Right/Libertarianism = Anarchism/Minarchism (closest to Kapitalism

The current state of western society was progressively going economic left untill Trump got in Office.
50 years back it was in the righ/liber spectrum, it had become more left/liber in the past 15 years and suspected to go up into the left/authoritarian spectrum.
Now trump has taken control it is thought that it will become right/authoritarian.
personally I hope it will be right/liber.

Minarchist/kapitalist here.

Thanks for this, extremely helpful.

this is all you need to know

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Is this compass white and how does it pertain to redpills?

you wanna be in the blue, upper purple or very right red.

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This one needs to be simplified for a newbie like me.

Hillary and Trump are in the box????

Bernie goes in the 'Social Democrats' box right? Just for practice.

That's brilliant

Are you implying people change their beliefs based on their current conditions?

This one just seems like a meme.

Oh wait now I get it.

When you hard times that breeds strong men who create good times so which creates weak men which leads to hard times.

Does this actually happen though? Is that what is happening in the US?

According to the people who make the political compass here is the US election.

The closer to the top means you want government to control more, the bottom being more anarchy.
Right means is more capitalist while left is more communist.

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hes not ready to know about the 3rd dimension. delet this

>he/she/it
>it
leave

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Read the rules of Sup Forums, 18- not allowed.

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I'm not.

Explain these.

>taking it literally

Pinochet, the dictator of Chile, was as authoritarian right as you can be, it was said he ordered communists and political opponents to be chucked from helicopters mid flight. It is now a meme than anyone not authoritarian right deserves to be thrown from helicopters.

Soon.

youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM

Yes, in times of prosperity we gave women the vote, they voted to import millions of refugees and poor immigrants, now the western world is fucked.

>THAT version still not posted
I'm disappointed.

>Are you implying people change their beliefs based on their current conditions?
Are you implying they don't?
Some one who wants gun for everyone at gun point will want for guns to be banned...

Have you traveled to the bottom of the ocean to save your dead father from a dragon today?

Libertarian = DUDE WEED LMAO
Authoritarian = muh degeneracy
Left = gibs me dat
Right = Fuck you, I've got mine

Pretty much all US politics takes place in the blue square.

> Libertarian = DUDE WEED LMAO
Are you retarded?

OP is clearly joking

libertarianism degenerates into hedonism because it allows freedom, but sets no healthy barriers.

If you want to overdose on meth, Janusz Korwin-Mikke won't stop you from doing that. He assumes you have perfect self-control.

Kurwa... Libertarianism is mainly about as little government influence in everyday life as possible, as much freedom as possible. Life is not only about meth and weed for fuck sake.

Isn't it better if drug addicts weed themselves out through Darwinian natural selection as opposed to wasting tax payer money on incarcerating them or putting them in rehab?

Exactly why that shit is a shill concept. They've always had a bent to make American politics look like they're all a bunch of right wing authoritarians. Oh and gun rights means authoritarian in their mind.

This is political compass explain, with Trump's position as National Socialism...
> Voted mainly by rustbelt workers and midwest farmers
> Give people work by rebuilding highways and factories (remembers something?)
> Protect economy by tariffs
> Plan and force private companies to return home


Consider, that there is conservative left, with which you don't have got much experience in USA, and it is completelly different from liberal left, that you're pissed of now...

Same image, just the foreground layer

The problem of all ideologies is monomania = grasping one idea and making it an axiom which dominates everything else.

For libertarians that idea is liberty, which for them dominates all reasoning.

And that;s exactly what would happen: weak people will demand hedonistic use of drugs and JKM will not stop them from destroying themselves, because his assumption prevents him from interfering.

Conservatism = people are weak and bad and need some controls.

No. We can invent drugs which even the strongest person can't withstand.

Just consider the pain drug oxycontin epidemic in the USA. One use and people get hooked and become degenerate junkies.

only someone underage would joke so retardedly

The original background... Notice there are some obvious errors...
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I've made an middle-level extensive explaining here:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/112177740/#q112195904
and following topics

EU it is then. Torch in nuclear fire everything else.

Here are some typical figures.
> The conservative (Order) left of east-european socialism. There was no such decadence allowed as you see in todays liberals...
> Liberal (Chaos) left - anarchists

> Conservative (Order) right - businessmen
> (neo)Liberal (Chaos) left - Epstein, Podesta, Brock, Alefantis, Holywood - the rich decadence...

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- Left is side of SHARING (charitas).
- Right is side of PRIVATE (selfish).

- Top is side of ORDER. Conservative/authoritarian/statist -- responsibility...
- Bottom is side of CHAOS - some call it liberal, but very often they limit the true liberties instead... -- arbitrariness...

Good.

brb, I will make a (simple) definitive guide.

This is animal alegory...
Just in bottom-left corner, birds are exchanged with apes...

EU is led by jewish banksters (Dijsbloem) and other jewish capitalists (Merkel, Schulz, ...) and is actually quite right-wing... (?)

Ah that makes alot of sense actually.

Looks like Russia is in for a bit of luck.

These are memes...

This is fucking brilliant.

This is wrong...
Communism was not tried, or it is current "Cultural Marxism" of Brussel and California...

Authoritarian Left is Socialism, there is a big difference...

Again and simpler?

- Left is side of Collective, Sharing.
- Right is side of Private, Profit.

- Top is side of Order (enforced Order)
- Bottom is side of Chaos (""liberty"" - lack of enforced Order)

It's funny, how each side portrays it's women as nicest...

You can also put this one into top-right corner, which would be fair, compared with what you placed in top-left corner...
(otherwise it is just a cheap psychological trick)

Authoritarian: More power to the government
Libertarian: Less power to the government

Right wing: Individualist economy (individuals engage in trading/transactions as they wish)
Left wing: Collectivist economy (people give to a central body, those who need it take from it)

> (neo)Liberal (Chaos) RIGHT - Epstein, Podesta, Brock, Alefantis, Holywood - the rich decadence...

(mistaken "left" vs. "right"... the window to type message is too small for a proofreading...)

>The Authoritarian Left pisses off all the middle class people, who revolt and institute an Authoritarian Right government
>The Authoritarian Right transitions to Libertarian Right as things stabilize and pieces of shit are weeded out of society
>The Libertarian Right grows soft and allows the Libertarian Left to fester and grow until it chokes the life out of morality and ethics
>The Libertarian Left elects an Authoritarian Left government to force everyone to be equal
c'est la vi

>b4 someone posts the futa compass

>*inb4

And to describe the difference:

LEFT means sharing, working together.
RIGHT means working selfish and private.

Conservative is side of ORDER.
Liberal is side of CHAOS (lack of Order) and thereby HELL.

The upper part is RIGHT in meaning "GOOD", the lower part is WRONG in meaning "BAD". The Right or Wrong does not have anything to do with Left-Right difference. There can be Good Left and Good Right, and there can be Bad Left and Bad Right...

Banksters as Soros have bought internationally the Left movement and strived a lot to convert it from Conservative Left to the Liberal Chaos Left, the Bad one, to PREVENT current Left from being a good alternative, to protect their bankster deeds and fortunes...


((a copy from previous thread))

Here's an unbiased one I did giving answers in the role of Donald Trump. Here's where he would lay on the political compass.

How exactly does left-wing libertarianism work? Wouldn't you still have to give wealth to a governing body who then gives it out?

Here it is. This is all you'll ever need to know, OP.

For comparison here's my own one.

The left-right horizontal axis is an axis of ECONOMIC cooperation level.

The society progress is from right to left, from selfish apes to a highly organized and planned society.
(If you think, that good is eternal staying on right side, please answer yourself, whether you mean, that jewish banksters like Soros and Rothschild and media owners are going to be infinitelly and eternaly rich and ruling their puppets? No, I hope the future will eventually become better, and Trump seems to be one of paths there... If you oppose, consider, that "Left" may be actually more similar to Trump's promises, not only USSR or California judeo-bolshevik version...)


The Up-Down axis is an axis of MORAL.

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>Economic Right/authoritarian = Fascism
Pretty sure that's just authoritarian, not left or right.

It's a false paradigm that really confuses a lot of people. A key sign that someone has been brain damaged is the use of phrases like "fiscally conservative".

From my understanding some of the more extreme ones want wealth to distributed and the means of production seized but the "ordinary" people. Without a government, so mob rule, if you don't give up your land so they can use it, you're getting your teeth knocked in.

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Wtf Trump is one of the most libertarian candidates I've ever seen

How's mine pol?

You have replaced "Communists" and "Socialists"...
There was no communism in eastern Europe. There was socialism - highly state organized...

"Communism" is stateless and is actually more far from east-European socialism, than it is from western Capitalism...

Communists have been ruling in USA 8 years under Barrack Obama and are ruling in California still...

rense.com/general32/americ.htm
> The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
Read this and understand...
Those "Communists" which you were actually fearing, are your american jews instead, and they succeeded in their takeover and collonisation of your land...
(There was almost nothing from this list happening in east-Europe socialist countries... Almost all happened in USA...)

Sweden is a prime example of a left wing libertarian society. It was doing really fucking well. And then... Yeah.

It made me reconsider a few policies I had about immigration laws. But yeah apart from that. Essentially socially liberal. Small government in matters of arbitration and personal liberties enforcement. Big government in terms of corporate regulation and health safety and welfare. Also high taxes.

runup now.

Please be memeing.

trump is somewhere in the middle. possibly a bit to the left actually. securing your border isnt right wing its common sense.

>112664283
> Trump
> libertarian

With his pro-life stance ? Anti-choice...
Ultimately Clinton was more libertarian than Trump...

Also - _forcing_ industry to return home, building _walls_ to protect, _banning_ villains from entering -- all these are ultimatelly non-liberal ... This is Enforced Order, the Conservative/Authoritarian side...

Who is this semen demon

See the test I took using his answers.

Here

I'm not implying anything I was asking a question...

>but sets no healthy barriers.
Where do we set these barriers?

>Isn't it better if drug addicts weed themselves out through Darwinian natural selection as opposed to wasting tax payer money on incarcerating them or putting them in rehab?

The thing that concerns me about this is they can potentially cause harm to the other citizens. ie driving under the influence, crazy domestic dispute, or high at work and fuck something up.

This one is still confusing but it also helps. Thanks.

Is protectionism (at least slightly) left-wing? I'd think so because it's quite opposite to free market.

At least I'd think open borders are a result of a free market if they have anything to do with economics (I'm pretty sure open borders impacts the economy).

In that case, I'd prefer a US-Mexico border similar to the US-Canada border and I believe the War of Drugs is a CIA trick (it's been proven for years yet still people constantly deny it). But whatever.

But I'd look at And I must have put DJT in the right place.

So no, DJT isn't economically left, in fact, every US President since at least Nixon has been Authoritarian-Right as that's the square that protects the bankers and robber barons.

Killing somebody without their consent is not pro life it's pro murder you should know this it violates the NAP

Life and Liberty are rights but property isn't because it was all stolen at some point. But they can't take it back since they don't have a right to it and aggression is immoral.

>US "Democrats"
>libertarian right

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)

Ideology
Majority:
- Modern liberalism
- Social liberalism
Factions:
- Progressivism
- Social democracy
- Centrism
- Conservatism

>ClintonSoros
>libertarian right

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrats

So I was doing some searching and I found something that might interest you OP:

True liberals advocate:
individual freedom, weak government, and free markets.

- LIBERTARIAN CENTER-RIGHT

Progressives advocate: social concern, omniscient government, and controlled markets.

- AUTHORITARIAN CENTER-LEFT

Socialists advocate: social responsibility, omnipresent government, and collective markets.

- AUTHORITARIAN LEFT
(and I'd argue this fits the description of 'communists')

Conservatives advocate: moral responsibility, strong government, and protected markets ("neo-cons" with international businesses have adopted freer market policies).

- MIXED CENTER-RIGHT
(could be Authoritarian or Libertarian based on varying practical factors)

Left-wing libertarianism focuses on Giving the Government power to control the economy as a means of making it stable. Not throwing everyone's cash in a pile and splitting it evenly. It's all about ensuring that there isn't too large of a gap between the upper class, the middle class, and the lower class respectively. As far as libertarian issues go. The Left focuses mainly on social and personal freedoms. "You can be gay, smoke weed, believe in any religion you want." That sort of deal.

Speaking as a left wing libertarian i can tell you your confusion is is in the term itself, you're thinking about american style libertatianism which is inherently right wing. In essence libertarian in the general sense is someone who values freedom, so a left libertarian is someone who still supports the welfare state and all that economic shit but also values freedom of speech ect.

I see a lot of trump supporters share my political beliefs, pic related. The funny part is that Bernie was the closest candidate to that mark and the DNC fucked themselves choosing Hillary. No use crying about it now but it's so fucking obvious that Bernie would have won a good number of the Trump vote.

fuck you i laughed

Well said.

It really fucks with my brain when people confuse economy (Left,Right) with culture (Authoritarian, Libertarian), which happens to be all the time and everywhere.

As I see it, the people who actually understand this logic always happen to be center-center.

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congrats on having the only reasonable political opinion. if you aint green, you just a teen

Bernie not getting the nomination is in the same boat as Ron Paul getting close to no media coverage and JFK getting the bullet.

I'm not sure how I feel about this...

Right back at 'cha my dude.

>if youre not green youre a teen
>implying teenagers dont get green more than any other group
alrightie then.

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No if they lived without drugs than they can be productive to some extent members of society
letting them die wastes economic potential

Most SJWs I know fall in the green quadrant and so do I, but I hate these fuckers. What am I missing?

Really wish all these conservatives (specifically the ones that seem to be physically incapable of not strawmaning liberals) would just see that we are all on the same side of this culture war and we can worry about each other later after we win