Anti-Fascism Genreal

You would think a politically incorrect board would value liberty and free speech. So with that being said...Anti-Fascism General.

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>would value liberty and free speech
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>H-HATE SPEEECH IS NOT FREEE SPEEECH!!!!!!!!! WHY DON'T YOU LIKE BLACK DICKS DURRRRR

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Hate speech is free speech. The point of freedom is allowing people to say things you don't like.

I mean nobody is gonna delete your thread so it's technically free

That doesn't meant anyone will agree or keep your thread alive though

This is why Sup Forums works better than Reddit

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That's because this board is filled with a bunch of hypocrites.

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>antifa unironically calling anyone hypocrites

Top kek.

You're free to post here. I don't see what the problem is, other than your cuck club.

I like free speech and hate speech

> Using double-think unironically.

Tell me again how being anti-fascist is pro-fascist.

I know I'm free to post here as this is an anonymous image board. This is the general place to talk about fascists and why they threaten a free society.

And you're fine with giving free speech to those you disagree with?

Otherwise its not free

Than we seem to be on the same pro-liberty side my user friend.

This board has many pro-fascists but not a lot of fascist defenders. You would think they would have some debate chops beyond calling anti-fascists, fascist.

Depends how you define fascism.

Most people define it objecitvely as method and not content.

And according to that Antifas are fascist

You're genetic throw aways being sponsored by creepy billionaires to provide dissent and violent social disruption against a sovereign country and belief systems outside of your utterly cucked ideological spectrum. Your answer to arguments you can't win is violence. You're not like fascists, you're worse than the fascists.

As disappointing as it may be, Trump is not a fascist. These policies you're "fighting" against aren't fascist, either.

Fascism is an authoritarian government which seeks to diminish the powers of free speech.

According to this Germany is fascist right now

oh snap

Time to fight china / best korea and any other communist leaning nation then huh ?

> You're genetic throw aways being sponsored by creepy billionaires to provide dissent and violent social disruption against a sovereign country and belief systems outside of your utterly cucked ideological spectrum.

Kind of like how Soros is for the left and the Koch brothers are for the right? This is not what fascism means by those who support or oppose the concept. Thats an issue about getting money out of American politics.

> Your answer to arguments you can't win is violence. You're not like fascists, you're worse than the fascists.

I'd like to see you quote where I said " Your answer to arguments you can't win is violence." Seems like a scapegoat you're creating because you know that's not my view. Also a bunch of whiny protesters is not the equivalent of an authoritarian government stripping you of your most basic freedoms.

> As disappointing as it may be, Trump is not a fascist. These policies you're "fighting" against aren't fascist, either.

Trump is a man child. I doubt he's pro or against anything unless it can line his pockets. The problem is that he's allowing people to run his administration with fascist leanings.

No self respecting American would identify as a fascist.

The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’.

George Orwell 1946

> According to this Germany is fascist right now

Explain a law thats limiting your freedom of speech into authoritarian means.

antifa are against free speech you neanderthal

Yes? China is okay as it becomes more capitalist but North Korea can go fuck its self.

Once again, that is double-think. Fascists are against freedom of speech.

>fly nazi flag
>get sent to jail
>question anything holocaust related
>get sent to jail

its not even just germany
most of europe has similar laws in place

I go to Jail if I publicly question the Holocaust or praise the third Reich or Adolf Hitler or demand that certain groups of people are removed from this country.

Thats fascism

I'd be fine with Anti-Fascist threads if the average Antifa was capable of some sort of actual discussion. The truth is, their arguments boil down to FASCIZUM IS BAD. None of them have actually taken the time to understand the thing they're criticizing, instead preferring to rail against based on a simplified narrative they've been spoon-fed.

Okay, thats a negative as in you should be able to be supportive of groups even if the government dislikes them. Still, that's not really crushing your life in western civilization

It's not fascism. It is an authority figure telling you that you can't do something. Just like a police officer telling you to not jay-walk is not being a fascist.

Should generally allow you to praise Hitler? Yes, because freedom of speech is saying things other people may not like. That sounds more like 'in house' politics than anything else. A law like that would not fly in the United States.

Going to jail for race mixing doesnt crush your life as well.

Lets introduce it.

I have taken the time to understand fascism. Still comeplelty unconvinced it's good for a society or man-kind. I'd rather stick with my liberty for all.

please be bait

How about we allow 'race mixing' and praising leaders who killed themselves? Why do you need to be a hypocrite when you can just be pro-freedom?

>Homage to Catalonia describes Orwell’s own experiences in Spain but it also defends the POUM and the anarchists against the lies the Communist Party and their stooges put out about them to the effect that they were in contact with and acting on behalf of Franco’s fascists.

>Orwell knew this to be completely untrue and, out of honesty as well as loyalty to his former companions-in-arms, he denounced this. Needless to say, the Communists suggested that he too was a fascist sympathiser and “Trotsky-Fascist”. It left him with an abiding disgust with the Communist Party, its ideology and its methods, which was to inspire his later novels Animal Farm and Nineteen Eight-Four which, rightly, show them no mercy.

Maybe you should look a bit further before you start throwing around meaningless terms

Which part do you think is bait? If you say 'all' than I'll just assume you have no rebuttal.

Yes I'm sure you've developed a keen understanding of just how bad Nazis are.

Orwell was a democratic socialist who despised fascism and communism. Since you're repeating my statement to me I'll assume that you agree with his assessment of utopia like ideologies.

The liberty to be ourbred and wake up in a South Africa 2.0 wew

National Socialism is just the road back to traditionalism.

You need collectivist force to remove (((them))).

If you give rights to kikes they will use them against you.

>Kind of like how Soros is for the left and the Koch brothers are for the right?

The Koch brothers (anti-nationalists) are fucking peons compared to Soros and his manipulations. But no, not just Soros.

>This is not what fascism means by those who support or oppose the concept. Thats an issue about getting money out of American politics.

Don't fucking play innocent, if you're going to brand yourself with that pozzed fucking label.

>I'd like to see you quote where I said " Your answer to arguments you can't win is violence."

Every riot I've seen this year has been caused by antifa. I heard leftist pundits claim it was Sup Forums kek.

>Seems like a scapegoat you're creating because you know that's not my view.

I don't know you, and I don't like you.

>Also a bunch of whiny protesters is not the equivalent of an authoritarian government stripping you of your most basic freedoms.

The protesters are violent genetic waste, who are actually chiefly funded by Soros. Shutting down the debate because you call someone a Nazi is typical now, and its because of you cunts that this has happened. desu I don't think you have a grasp of what you're fighting, based on this And that's what you cunts do. If the government was leftist (and actually shutting down free speech) no one would be hearing your gay little slogans or dealing with all of your cuck club's bullshit.

>The problem is that he's allowing people to run his administration with fascist leanings.

Trump has done more than you ever will, in all of your life. And who, precisely are these fascists? Do you mean Steven Miller, the Jewish conservative? Or Bannon, the barely civic nationalist?

Is your argument that the Nazi's were good?

>Which part do you think is bait?

nigger you literally said
>fascism is when the state cracks down on freedom of speech
then people point out that this is exactly what "anti fascists" and leftists in power do across europe right now

and you respond with
>It's not fascism. It is an authority figure telling you that you can't do something.


you're either baiting or a jew
either way, waste of time posting here

It's an argument that good and bad are useless terms, and moreover an argument that not all fascism is characterized by Italy and German in the early 20th century.

A poltically incorrect board doesn't exist. Any forums for progressive discussion are co-opted. But, anything idolizing Hitler or failed nationalism are idiotic. This a real human stuggle at this point, not fucking national ones.

>either way, waste of time posting here

Agreed.

> The liberty to be ourbred and wake up in a South Africa 2.0 wew

In other words you don't want others to actually be free.

> National Socialism is just the road back to traditionalism.

It's the road to having your personal freedoms taken away.

> You need collectivist force to remove (((them))).

You're the other side of the collectivist force. Capitalists and pro-liberty people like my self are centrists who actually get policy changes done.


> If you give rights to kikes they will use them against you.

Hey, I just wanted to hear that you were anti-freedom from your mouth. At least you're a fascist who doesn't try to hide beyond political correctness.

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people who post this garbage are literally clueless

Define freedom

>i have taken the time to understand fascism
>defines it as "an authoritarian government that seeks to diminish the powers of free speech"
What a meme. I bet you think the USSR and Maoist China were fascist.

are we getting raided again?

I pay taxes to the US government, US officials are my elected representatives, US military forces protect American interests. I don't pay taxes to Canada, I have no representation in Canada, and Canada's military does not protect my nation's interests. The world is still defined by nationalism, no matter how hard people scream about borders, immigrants, and globalism.

i value your free speech
I don't really favor fascism but due to the actions of ((antifa)) anything that's anti-fascist reminds me of them and instantly alienates me. Assuming you aren't ((antifa)) scum, I pretty much agree, facism isn't great.

We do which is why Antifa is not welcome here. Anything that remotely deviates from Antifa dogma is labelled fascist and violently shut down. Thus we arrive at the irony that Anti Fascists are the evil they rail against but with a flip of the right/left spectrum.

Say what you will but in a battle between two authoritarian faggots I'm gonna side with the one that doesn't want to genocide me

Except what about during war time when enemy spies could spread propaganda?

Agreed, fuck Trump.

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If you think that "fascists" are the bigger problem in today's society instead of antifascists labeling everyone they disagree with as "fascist" then you're an idiot

> The Koch brothers (anti-nationalists) are fucking peons compared to Soros and his manipulations. But no, not just Soros.

Even when they have more more than Soros?

> Don't fucking play innocent, if you're going to brand yourself with that pozzed fucking label.

I'm not 'playing innocent.' It's a common lie that anti-fascists use violence to counter fascism.

> Every riot I've seen this year has been caused by antifa. I heard leftist pundits claim it was Sup Forums kek.

Really and I'm sure you have proof of this beyond pictures you found on Sup Forums?

> I don't know you, and I don't like you.

Fascists rarely like people who value freedom of speech.

> The protesters are violent genetic waste, who are actually chiefly funded by Soros.

Twice with the Soros conspiracy in one post. He is talked about a lot on this board so it's not surprising.

> Shutting down the debate because you call someone a Nazi is typical now, and its because of you cunts that this has happened.

Kind of like what the fascists do on this board. So what you're saying is "I wish someone would value my free speech!" Look you're becoming an anti-fascist already.

> Trump has done more than you ever will, in all of your life. And who, precisely are these fascists? Do you mean Steven Miller, the Jewish conservative? Or Bannon, the barely civic nationalist?

First of all are you saying Jews can't be nationalists? You've obviously never been to Israel. And yes Bannon can call himself what ever type of nationalist he wants as he is the poster boy for a corrupted government from the far right.

>post yfw it's this thread again

I disagree, I think fascism can be called a bad ideology. They are the types of utopias that are paved by corpses.

Orwell was a prominent critic of communism...

Does antifa know this?

Are we posting flags that lost wars?

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How in the world can a politically incorrect board be raided by people who are politically incorrect?

Just take a look at where liberty has taken us and tell me why it is the ultimate virtue.

> I don't like anti-fascism because the fascists have told me that it's fascism.

How much propaganda do you have to read for your brain to process this?

>paved by corpses

Damn, you got me. I'm literally a moustache-twirling villain that wants piles of dead jews, blacks, and homos. I just can't wait to murder people. That's what fascism is all about! Wanton murder.

*helicopter idles in the distance*

Define freedom

Fascists are a bigger problem in today's society as anti-fascism is generally non-existent. The fascists have good PR machines so they love making people think anti-fascism means fascism.

A variable to make a legal move. As in you have the freedom to marry someone above the legal age.

>I'm an anti-fascist so anyone who dislikes me for being an obnoxious cunt is a fascist
I don't know you tell me.

What is it about liberty that offends you?

> Damn, you got me. I'm literally a moustache-twirling villain that wants piles of dead jews, blacks, and homos. I just can't wait to murder people. That's what fascism is all about! Wanton murder.

Fascism, much like communism is getting ride of all of (x) so that we can have our Utopian dream.

Why is there a legal age? Seems to obstruct freedom

Trump is already making up crime statistics.

I mean, I see anti fascist and first think of antifa, but if you had read my whole post, you would see that I went past that.

>I'm an anti-fascist so anyone who dislikes me for being an obnoxious cunt is a fascist

Well, thats not a statement I ever made. So I'll go with "Things that only exist in your head."

Because studies have shown that having sex with children harms them. I am for a central government and a body of laws. Can you not understand the difference between having police and living in a police state?

Explain to me how anti-fascism means pro-fascism.

Of course "the fascists" must forever remain unidentified, otherwise you would have to justify why you call them fascist.

Remember:
The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’

George Orwell, Politics and the English Language, 1946

It was heavily implied, how do you know the person that created that image is a fascist?

And we have arrived at the same point. Everyone thinks they understand fascism but they continue to only view it through the lens of Nazi Germany, simplifying it as much as they can so they can have an easy enemy to hate. You're engaging in the same dangerous rhetoric you're afraid of.

He makes up everything. His one up side is he's even conning fascists. He'll commit nepotism and put his Jewish son in law into power and the KKK will still support him.

Studies also have shown that multiracial societies are defective and mroe violent.

Because it's a propaganda piece against people defending freedom?

>if you aren't like us, you don't deserve to live
This is what antifa believes. Also, you clearly don't know shit about politics, so stop posting and lurk a mininum of two years before posting again.

And so having multiracial societies breaches your freedom how?

It doesn't, Antifa is a hypocritical mob of thugs
there's just an association in my mind, I know it's incorrect and I ignore it, but it exists

The degeneracy that it has led to. When you promote liberty as the prime virtue you end up with cultural degeneracy. Individualism gets you nowhere.

>against people defending freedom
Yea okay, goodnight user.

>if you aren't like us, you don't deserve to live

Okay well you're talking to an anti-fascist and I don't hold that view.

I've been lurking on Sup Forums for a decade now. Are you going to try and make personal attacks or respond to how anti-fascism is fascism?

I guess the Castro bros were/are fascists and you should denounce him along with Che.

I'll wait...

Multiracial societies don't necessarily breach our freedom. They just cause degradation to any society.

So we need a clown like Trump to set cultural direction? Maybe some of the clods from the fake Christian religious right?

Very simple, you can call yourself anti-fascist while being fascist