Is socialism the one true and final redpill?

Is socialism the one true and final redpill?

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No. It's bad.

>the radical idea of sharing against your will on threat of governmental persecution.

Yes. And we can all ride our unicorns to work.

Dipshit

only if you are at the top

Or the bottom if you're sadomasochist

No, you fucking retarded mong

Sharing would imply a voluntary act. Socialism forces you to "share" by gunpoint. Extreme statism always fails. But don't take my word for it. Ask Venezuela!

Only one way to find out. You go first. Share your money with me OP.

Forced sharing is still taking.

You do know that sharing things that are not yours is theft, right?

In socialism there is no government.
You are brainwashed by the capitalists

more like 'socialism, the radical idea of forcing the productive to give the unproductive money that they didn't earn'.

How about you share that boipucci faggot

YES please goyim, fund my campaign, I'm sure to win next round!

Nothing stops you sharing in a capitalist society.

>using ad hominems
Not an argument.

>gimme your stuff
No fuck you

>In socialism there is no government.

Give one example of a "socialist" society that has no government. What you're thinking of is anarcho-communism which is also completely absurd.

How do you make people share without a state. I'll just tell you to fuck off. Not everyone who disagrees with you is brainwashed kiddo. Try actually arguing here.

Oy vey! Thank you for funding my lakehouse mansion! Btw- from each according to their ability, to each according to their need! Hahaha!

>socialism
>redpilled

You made me kek.

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quite the opposite

capitalism, unregulated, is the red pill

>All these cucks ITT defending Jewish capitalism

Guess who invented communism, faggot?

Guess what isn't socialism, faggot?

taxation is theft

No that's CHARITY you stupid fucking commie

Sharing everything at gunpoint is just banditry, op.

Capitalism: the radical idea of taking care of yourself

Guess who pushes socialism and communism, faggot?

Guess what the modern "socialist" movement is advocating for, faggot?

in a perfect world socialism would work, but the world is not perfect

Confiscation of the White Man's wealth. As usual. Fuck off kike.

Exactly, since when does protecting workers involve confiscating wealth and a globalized free market?

>protecting workers

You really are gullible.

The society progress is from right to left, from selfish apes to a highly organized and planned society.
(If you think, that good is eternal staying on right side, please answer yourself, whether you mean, that jewish banksters like Soros and Rothschild and media owners are going to be infinitelly and eternaly rich and ruling their puppets? No, I hope the future will eventually become better, and Trump seems to be one of paths there...)
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/112177740/#q112198940
(a huge explanation there)


And some few here (thread on political compass)

>Consequently, we demand:
>Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
>In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
>We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
>We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
>We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
>We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
>We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
>We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

>National Socialist German Workers Party, 1920
Idk, sounds like protection of the worker to me.

Socialism isn't sharing you libtarded cocksucker.

Socialism is democracy in the workplace. Socialism means kicking out the layabouts who contribute nothing and putting control of business in the hands of the worker. Socialism means keeping the parasites of society from stealing what the laborers produce.

In a perfect world, people would acknowledge that other people care more about their own well being than that of strangers.

>1920

That has nothing to do with modern socialism. Bernie Sanders and Lezzy Warren are the face of modern socialism like it or not.

Nice quads, but those are just capitalist globalist kikes who want to give the poor lots of money.

Actually,
LEFT itself means "sharing",
while
RIGHT means "private profit"

Socialism, it's not only democracy in workplace, as you write right, but also fair profit sharing among workers (Coop, Cooperative, the Workers Group Union), but also State Planning for the good of all.

Only Conservative Left is good, with high stress on Morals (otherwise the people will steal all out) and preventing all forms of Decadence (which destroys society from within). (You in America have experience only with Liberal Left, which is something completelly different from Conservative Left...)


Here you say, that "sharing" means "stealing"... Not actually, unless you are a stock-holder capitalist boondoggle or banker-gangster -- these fear Socialism the most, and because of that they bought all left movement to convert it to "liberal wrong left" to make it harmless for them...

Socialism does not prevent personal property, in it's better form it even does not prevent small (almost-personal) bussiness, it only prevents private ownership of large production means, of renta mining, etc...

No. They are the faces of modern socialism. What you have described does not exist in any meaningful way. I am very happy w/ the free market and so is my family. Peddle your snake oil bullshit elsewhere, Comrade.

sure is.

fixed it for you

Keep it up and this will be the face of modern America one day, just saying.

Yes but international socialism doesn't work and there must always be a tribal component. Dunbar's number is the ideal for such a community and this was certainly true in human prehistory.

fuck you, what is mine is mine. I work sand I reap thr rewards. no one gives me a goddam thing.

fucking mongoloid
sure socialism (as in lefty capitalism of the eu) is "sharing"
but that's not real socialism or communism
communism is not about sharing it is about fair and equal DISTRIBUTION
there is a world of difference

If you have to keep asking then lurk more. Shitposting doesn't do anyone any good.

>88

kek

>in socialism there is no government

Holy shit.

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Socialism selects for r-selected behavior. Which is why it ultimately leads to niggers and other subhuman trash becoming the majority and causing the society to collapse.

when can we officially start purging communists?

The day after ur mum dies

dem trips tho

Socialism took my country, beaten it to a bloody pulp, and let it starve while screaming at it how racist, evil and classist is.

>this
Actually kill yourself comme faggot

>is socialism the one true and final redpill?
I'm going to genuinely examine this bait.

>socialism
>"fair"distribution of resources, with the goal of keeping people alive.
>provides for the weak/unwilling/unable at the sole expense of the strong/determined/achieving
>basically leeches off achievement instead of adding value

In a vacuum, no. Now suppose any of these conditions:

>scarcity is eliminated
>capitalism comes first and foremost in an economy, and culture is bent against reliance on handouts

Then I can see it. Until we hit star trek, we will have no TNG.

Sounds eerily similar to the US.

I swear a nuke or a plague would be a more humane way to end us all.

lel
>sharing
>taking something from you without consent and giving it to someone else

kys fagit
sage

Socialism is completelly opposite to Communism.

Socialism means strong state, central planning, sharing of profits.
Socialism is usually and best if National...

Communism means NO STATE, communities working alone. Communism does not know borders and is international...

No. Kill yourself

It is if you acknowledge the need for the free market and private property. Socialism naturally teaches us capitalism exploits and devastates. So well regulated national socialist state is the best way forward.

Any other socialism should be treated with free helicopter rides

Communism as you have described it can never exist without a state. It's a complete pipe dream that will never manifest.

"in socialism there is no government"
Are you autistic?
----a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the government in every case.

Is he waiting for someone to give him some money in the last panel.

The radical idea of FORCING people to share.

kek

I saw the bombings, i saw the kidnappings, i saw the brainwashing of society.

Civilians killing civilians and soldiers, adults and children, men and women, all in the name of socialism.

Socialism is a inhumane plague that seduces people with its toxic words.

When they fuck up, they blame the religion and culture of their host nation.

There is no place for socialism in my country, it just fucks up everything

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socialism can't be sustained without the use of violence

There is no place for socialism in any country or society. It absolutely defies human nature.

In a perfect world socialism wouldn't need to exist because everyone would have what they want. That is why it is called a perfect world

Radical as in extreme or radical as in EXTREEEME?

Socialism only works with a successful homogeneous people. There's a community, people you feel close to, and you want to do what you can to help out those less fortunate. You feel inclined not to bring your fellow man down so you work to make your ends yourself.

Look maan I'll water your weed plant if you gimme a cut man

I want to live in a commune maaaan. Like, imagine how beautiful it would be to live in a commune with blacks and hispanics and ethnic people all day dancing around and making bracelets man, like, no white people at all and just beautiful ethnic culture and beats to dance to around a bonfire all day. Think of all the loove man like not showering and not wearing bras and just setting your spirit free maan

Fuck off and kill yourself you fucking FAGGOT

>This

You can't force everyone to share just as you can't force everyone to compete against each other.
Sharing should be an a option just like competition, that's why capitalism thrives and marxism is just a parasite that leeches from its achievements.

The milk of human kindness doesn't come in the form of ideology.

Look man, if you unironically support any of this shit just be straight up about who you are, okay?

Just dress up in girly clothes and get fucked in the ass. Go get picked up by black men and have your holes filled up like you wish daddy had done, if you had a daddy, you absolute failure of the human condition.

In fact, go to the Caribbean in Venezuela and just offer yourself as a cumslut for black and zambo men. Set up a beautiful brown commune and have them use you and degrade you until your faggot cum lust is satisfied, you fucking degenerate. Perhaps then you will feel liberated from white, oppressive capitalism and finally feel in contact with your ethnic brothas. Suck black cocks and let them fuck you, and if you have a wife or a girlfriend share her with the commune and let all the niggers fuck all her holes into a coma. Liberate her from oppressive western values and live a true ethnic life with beautiful brown people in a faggot commune, you fucking FAGGOT.

Hunter-gatherer societies were basically socialist as is the family, so it's most certainly in line with human nature, far more so than capitalism. That's why it's such an appealing idea to so many people. It just doesn't scale properly past the Dunbar unit. Agricultural and industrial societies need to have property rights and formal hierarchies as a result.

Socialism, the idea that humans are greedy bastards that cannot be trusted to rule themselves so we're going to have a select group of people (who totally aren't greedy for realz guys) control the entire society.

Socialism could work in a pure ethno state with extreme nationalistic values in which every person is viewed as a part of a family. Like in national socialist Germany for example. Even though national socialism failed if Hitler hadn't attacked Russia it very will might have lasted for several more years but theres really no telling how long it would actually last due to the influence of (((outside forces)))

I'm Venezuelan bro. Just wish a nigga would at this point

Just end it

I can't even get a renewed passport because mr gobierno chevere has a mob controlling the passports and you have to pay 1000$+

you shouldnt be rewarded for doing nothing.

>Is socialism the one true and final redpill?

No. Socialist rule is the reason why India is currently a literal shithole filled with subhumans and Muslims.

>Venezuela
>CIA rats nest
>U.S. and oil cartels have influence on price of oil, which is one of Venezuela's resources
>bandits stealing crops

oh, sure. you must have the mystery totally solved.

I doubt you share your wifi or iphone faggot

fixed that for you

> It is if you acknowledge the need for the free market and private property. Socialism naturally teaches us capitalism exploits and devastates.

Free trade is wrong, and even Trump knows it.

> Deregionalization of Economy leads to Deeconomization of Regions.
If you outsource your production to China (any country that exploits workers harder), your own workers and production skills suffer


There is important difference between PERSONAL property and PRIVATE property.
Personal property (house,car,garden,computer,etc...) is OK.
Private property of factories or bussiness, stock market, private ownership of banks is WRONG and will be abolished...

> So well regulated national socialist state is the best way forward.
> ...
Yes, that it is...

You mistyped "bluepill".

Trump's program (promises) is pure National Socialism...

There IS a place for that everywhere, where globalists are blocked and capitalists are well regulated under state control...

From (other thread)
Trump's position as National Socialism...
> Voted mainly by rustbelt workers and midwest farmers
> Give people work by rebuilding highways and factories (remembers something?)
> Protect economy by tariffs
> Plan and force private companies to return home


Who opposed Trump?
(((Academia))), white collars, (((Media))), ultra-capitalist (((banksters))), anarchists bought by banksters. These all strived for Clinton rule, which is absolutelly not left-wing with all this bankster and arab sheik support.

It seems, that Sup Forums (((moderators))) censored out the political compass thread ?! That's really disgusting...

I despise socialism, but not an argument.

By that logic any government is bad.

>that meme-tier comic
truly ebin XDDDD
t. socialist who pays taxes

>Yaron Brook
>Ayn Rand Institute
lel

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National Socialism, sure.

This. Unless there's a Tito-esque policy that actually succeeds in integrating peoples under one state, separate development is the best path forwards.