1860s

>1860s
>Half the country hates the other half and vice versa.
>Half leaves while other fights to keep it.

>Present
>Half the country still hates the other half and vice versa.

Why the fug didn't you guys just split up?

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Because one group said they leave where as the other group said that the group that wants to leave should stay because muh UNITED states.

Still wondering that. We would really have much more liberty and be better off if wed stayed under the articles of confederation.

Its immoral and coercive to not allow a state to secede under threat of violence. Find a difference between this and oldschool mafia territories. There isnt one.

At least with the mafia you could expect some direct benefits from being extorted. A thug standing outside your door, competitors getting burned down, i dont know. Something.

because the north knew they would be fucked without the south.

Not too familiar with burger politics but it was probably the jews

North would've been fine. It was the south that truly would have been fucked.

The southern states are still the poorest in the nation. They offered very little to the North other than keeping the Union intact.

last time both sides had guns

this time, we have all the guns

sorry southerners but life would be pretty shit if we split up at that point

1800s is not like the 1900s

Because this has nothing to do with that, it's not like all the northerners are libs and southerners are conservatives, this is far more complicated because the America hating liberals are all around us, in every state, county, and even city. There is no geographic divide this time, sure, some places are overwhelmingly liberal and vice versa, but this has nothing to do with the Civil War. Splitting up then would have no impact on what's going on now.

>Austin, Texas, liberal hellhole, location: South

>All of California, liberal hellhole, location: West

>NYC, liberal hellhole, location: North

Even places like Dayton, Ohio are on board with liberal bullshit like becoming a sanctuary. This is nothing like the Civil War nor has anything to do with Union/Confederacy issues.

It's not the north and south in 2017.

It's everyone against commifornia and zoo york desu

I'm from jew york and hate the lefty elites too.

Having strong oppositional parties is healthy. Better than in say, SA or the ME where socialism/islam are indisputed king most of the time

If there is some kind of ideological civil war in the US the battle grounds will be in California and New York. With the liberal and conservatives living in those states going at each other. With the other states lending their support to each side.

cause it's an ideological split, not a geopolitical one

retard

Hence the North fought over keeping the south united with the north... Mmmm....

But... MUH COTTON

If there was a civil war now, you would have powerful rich states banned together (New York/California) vs. shit states (Kentucky/Alabama).

The liberal states could just quit giving those states money and the war would be over in a few months.

By the way, all those shit states are red states.

and the decimation and failed rebuilding south went so much better.

Liberals would get steamrolled easily, a bunch of nu-males and feminists are not going to last long against a bunch of gun owners.

at this point we are 4 regions

the east coast is an authoritarian Left shithole
the south is an authoritarian Right shithole
the midwest is a liberal Right shithole
the west is a liberal Left shithole

Where would the liberal states get their food?

Things will never get to that. Life in the United States is much too comfortable to risk losing it all over stupid ideological reasons. We might see some kind of IRA style actions taken however in liberal/conservative strongholds.

California produces a lot more than retard states like to give credit.

Plus those states could afford to import food if they had to (they wouldn't have to). While simultaneously blocking imports to red states.

Really the only state that could help out dumbfuckistan would be Texas. But with half their population being mexican, i don't think they would want to help the red states much.

The South was the richest part of the nation prior to the Civil War. If the CSA existed today, it would be a member of OPEC rolling in oil money.

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wew lad. those shit states have all the food and potable water.

>According to the Defense Department, differences exist at the regional level as well. In 2013, 44% of all military recruits came from the South, despite it having only 36% of the country's 18-24 year-old civilian population.

>By contrast, the Northeast was the most underrepresented region of the country; only 14% of new enlistments came from this area, compared to 18% of its 18-24 year-old population.
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your hyphenated american hellholes would not survive very long

why the “fug” are you too pussy to swear. what are you? an eight year old who just discovered Sup Forums 2 days ago?

Because one side has all the guns.

>import food
Sounds like an easy trip to ending up like Venezuela.

North East is libertarian paradise

>The South was the richest part of the nation prior to the Civil War.

The plantation owners were rich, but as a whole was much poorer than the North. The CSA counted on the North requiring their cotton, but Europe and the Far East were more than willing to sell cotton to them.

The North had all the industry that would come to make the US a fucking industrial powerhouse leading into WW1 and WW2.

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Maybe he is just an undercover cute anime girl.

Once we saw how mad we made each other we decided to reunite and troll the world.

This. The south was a shithole then and it's a shithole now, but at least we could've done what we wanted with the gulf and exported food, cotton, and lumber to who we please. we'd be a proper latin american country which is probably better than it is now.

Because back then, the people who thought alike were all connected geographically. Now, the Left wing faction would have an exclave (West Coast) and possibly an enclave as well (Illinois) from their main territory, the northeastern megalopolis

>But with half their population being mexican, i don't think they would want to help the red states much.

Nothing a little ethnic cleansing would fix.

How long would the Blue enclaves last?

What would New England look like in a Civil War scenario?

It's remarkable similar once you ignore the geographic differences as well.

>no water

It looks solid enough to hold it's own.

Well the red areas are mostly empty space and idiots, and the blue have more people, so forever.

Blue have high density populations. Constant red terror attacks with massive causalities.

You been in a fucking coma the last 16 years?

I have no clue. The US is already balkanized as fuck, yet people want a some sort of unity. A forced marriage that needs to end.

lmao
No.

>empty space
with farmland and natural resources.
>and idiots
with guns and nukes.

I feel like most of blue's troops that stand a decent chance in battle would be from states like New Hampshire and Maine.

>packed like sardines into small geographical areas surrounded by literally the most armed group on earth and completely dependent on their food
>military and police are also against you

Jesus Christ almighty, if they try to pull some shit, they're going to get their shit pushed in for real.

New England would be fine, there's lots of people and plenty o' military bases and caches

The actual reason for the American civil war was the union being terrified that they would lose the territory and resources of the south. No country wants to get smaller.

Slavery was simply the justification used to retake the land. You can't tell people that their sons died for port duties and taxes on tobacco.

They never gave less of a shit about blacks, and the laws they passed to prevent them from resettling in most major northern cities proves it.

Wrong division of locales.

>with farmland and natural resources.
>with guns and nukes.

I'm pretty sure those nukes can not be launched by the local farm boys. And guess who has most of the aircraft.

Upper echelon democrats trying to keep their ill-gotten economic gain thru their pet shitskins and free trade, yes it is.

>The actual reason for the American civil war was the union being terrified that they would lose the territory and resources of the south.

And what reason was there for the union losing the south? dur.. SLAVERY!

It was, watch "the money masters". It claims the banks financed the war in an attempt to force a central bank.

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Are you implying that the armed forces are a liberal-friendly organization? No chance of a coup?

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i'm deep behind enemy lines on the other coast.
shadilay.

that sounds about right. this is going to get interesting.

Not posting the 2016 map

>red areas are mostly empty space and idiots

that line of thinking is why the left lost

>implying the Mexicans wouldn't be killed in the even of an ideological war

They either are Texans or dead ethnic Mexicans, their choice. None of this living in America being a Mexican nationalist like California encourages.

Liberals in the military tend to keep their mouths shut to prevent political arguments. But the split is the same as the rest of the country. Trump has brutally and repeatedly insulted this nation's top military brass, and they hate him. Even most cons in the military are not the kind of morons who would take up arms against their own country.

So yes, Cons are in for one hell of a shock when the fighting starts.

>So yes, Cons are in for one hell of a shock when the fighting starts.

>that line of thinking is why the left lost

There is no electoral college for civil war. People matter, working together in groups matter.

And do you guys think the Chicago police are going to sit back and let rednecks burn their city down just because they are racist?

>And do you guys think the Chicago police are going to sit back and let niggers burn their city down just because they are racist?

Blacks only make up 12% of the population, so 88% hate 12% and vice versa. Thats not half you fucking leaf.

Do you know what a siege is?

Civil wars don't start in the hood.

do it.

>Do you know what a siege is?

Do you know what a costal city is?

What nation would bother to come to Chicago's aid?

>What nation would bother to come to Chicago's aid?

The United States.

What nation will come to Trumpistan's aid?

>implying this wouldn't happen again over even pettier shit if they did split

Perhaps history repeats, and Russia keeps the union alive, once more.

What the fuck is up with Virginia having cities count as counties?

Anyways some of those areas are still contested with a marginal win for Trump

>The southern states are still the poorest in the nation.
Yeah... because the North set the niggers loose.

>The United States.
Funny, with Republicans controlling as of now, I was under the assumption that it was the Blue counties that were seceding from the Union.

>What nation will come to Trumpistan's aid?
Russia.

>>implying this wouldn't happen again over even pettier shit if they did split

The Trumpistan side would split itself into a million pieces, while the US would remain intact. Trump himself said that he could go out on a shooting spree and not lose support. The meaning of this is that his supporters are immune to facts, and thus can't respond to changes that are actually around them. So change the rules, change how their country works in any way, and they'll go batshit insane.

And they got their central bank, from this war. That's why (((they))) want Andrew Jackson off the twenty, because he BTFO'd (((them))), those rotten little cunts.

Don't look at the cities, look at the states. Rural folks could easily siege the cities full of whiny fags who never seen a gun

>>The United States.
>Funny, with Republicans controlling as of now, I was under the assumption that it was the Blue counties that were seceding from the Union.

- "congress shall confirm"
- the courts are the final arbitrators of what is and isn't legal.

The US constitution defines what is the US, not what color flag you wave. Trumpistan will be like Taiwan who officially call themselves China, but it's meaningless.

>>What nation will come to Trumpistan's aid?
>Russia.

Russia will aid whatever side is losing to keep the US divided. So that probably will be Trumpistan.

>Rural folks could easily siege the cities full of whiny fags who never seen a gun

You really think no one in the city has ever seen a gun? You don't go to cities much, do you? Also, what does Pol keep saying about black people? They are coming to YOUR town.

What the fuck are you talking about? Have you ever formed a lucid thought, ever?

>change how their country works in any way, and they'll go batshit insane.
Like how the left has been behaving since the election?

>urban retard does not realize nigger powers only work in gun free zones

geography , everyone is mixed all over the country now

So you're saying that in this scenario, the voted-for-Trump counties would be the ones in rebellion? Why? Their candidate and his cronies are the ones in power now. The voted-for-Clinton counties should be the ones saying "I want out of this nation of shitlords!"

This demonstrably false.

just have to cut off food shipments into the cities actually.