So here we go again you drumpf loving rednecks, watch what happens when California secedes from your shitty union and becomes the most progressive country in the world
>buh buh buh BUT MUH california hippies won't make it without us redneck states
Think again and read this excerpt from "Yes California", our secession movement. It gives plenty of reasons why you all will be fucked without us and no the other way around.
>Since 1987, California has been subsidizing the other states at a loss of tens and sometimes hundreds of billions of dollars in a single fiscal year. As a result, we are often forced to raise taxes and charge fees in California, and borrow money from the future to make up the difference. This is partly why California presently has some of the highest taxes in the country, and so much debt. Independence means that all of our taxes will be kept in California based on the priorities we set, and we will be able to do so while repaying our debts and phasing out the current state income tax.
Redneck states BTFO get on our level of money making you xenophobic cunts
>CALEXIT! >trump pls save us >WAIT NEVERMIND WE LEAVIN AGAIN
lol op you're literally retarded
Jacob Carter
California also imports most of it's raw materials. Can you afford the tariffs? Can you raise an army large enough to defeat the US army? Because last I checked, it's illegal for a state to secede, and it will be enforced by the army.
Colton Richardson
please secede
t. Texas
>sage
Jose Adams
reddit has this covered u redneck coward
Aaron Russell
So just a couple questions: What is organization's proposal on how immigration should work? Their proposal on how citizenship should work? Social Benefits?
Owen Wright
California cant even handle fucking rain. What makes you think that you can handle yourselves?
Henry Smith
Also, as far as challenging your reddit picture goes: The US Navy can effectively blockade the ports. Stop enough ships, fire on ones refusing to stop, and people will stop trying to bring in the massive amounts of food needed. When the large amounts of farmland are taken easily, you'll have mass starvation. Careful smart bombing of the right locations would cut out power and water. Even if you defend half of the locations, that's still a massive hit.
This is all assuming that your population is willing to engage in a fight. Plenty will flee and seek asylum as soon as they think they might be in danger staying. Finally, if as those redditors think, such a huge amount of your citizens would so easily use guns to kill our Army, it won't be long before smart bombing turns into carpet bombing.
As much as rednecks like to think they can stand up to the US army, with their gun stockpiles, they can't, and neither can your militia army with poor training.
Evan Long
>watch what happens You mean when you become Sweden 2.0? Just ask your wife's son what that's like.
William Reyes
What do californians think will happen if they secede? peaceful separation?
Infinitely more likely is a bloody civil war where california loses and gets fucked into the ground for the next 200 years like the South.
David Martin
Only retarded Coastifornians want to secede. And you know, fuck it, I say let 'em. We'll see how you commies fare without any of *our* food or water. Stupid fucking flatlanders.
Levi Peterson
How do you plan to hold Cali together as a single entity? Force?
Asher Ramirez
Commiefornia can't secede if the commie is purged from it.
Think about it. It's coming.
Austin Bell
Remember what happened when the south tried to secede? And the south actually had the passion to fight for their freedom
California is going nowhere
David Nelson
see
Cameron Carter
The vast majority of people in California have no interest in seceding.
Asher Lewis
>Calicucks thinking they have the number and resolve to take on the US fucking military >thinking Cali leftcucks will be even half as resiliant as crazed desert death cultists
OH I AM LAFFIN
please let them do this, PLEASE
Benjamin Martinez
All the US needs to do is levy extreme tariffs on Californian goods. They will wither and die without our money. And then they'll come back grovelling to be let back in the union, or, in a better scenario, give us a reason to invade them and clean house of all the filth before fixing their society and government so that this garbage never even becomes a thought in the minds of its people ever again once they are back under our flag.
Chase Gutierrez
Yes, because I'm sure a bunch of middle class pussy leftists with shitty guns can hold the Bay Area from the U.S. Armed Forces. No other Californian will support you. We aren't traitors.
Mason Thompson
Not an answer. State of Jefferson refuses to go along with the secession. How do you proceed?
Jonathan Mitchell
Californians pay the same federal tax rates as any other state.
It's not the fault of other states that California is the most fiscally irresponsible state with the most out of control level of government spending and a completely retarded tax structure across the board.
t. California fag
I honestly deserve to die in a nuclear holocaust just of living in this horrible state for so long. Fuck California.
Jason Bennett
>implying that drumpf loyalists won't be weeded out first
let me pull out ze blueprints from ze first revolution we had- those loyalists ate dirt and so shall u
Michael Walker
>forgetting the conservatives in "jefferson" that are always trying to secede from everyone else
Nicholas Campbell
You fags forget the naval instillations in Cali, Camp Pendelton, 29 Palms and the numerous air stations. Please fucking start something, I'm bored and deployments are slowing down.
Caleb Fisher
More like CALIFORNIA YES
Jacob Sanchez
Yeah, have fun with that. They just want their own state, almost none of them are up for outright secession as far as I know.
Anthony Rogers
Enjoy having no fresh water.
>calexit >nothing of value lost pls leave
Aaron Martin
Do it and we wont miss you. It'll be great watching you all beg for water
Jaxson Walker
You're looking for a repeat of the Bolshevik revolution, not a democratic secession.
Ayden Miller
>silicon valley >nothing of value
try again redneck
Liam Wilson
I like how article 1 basically unnderlines why it is doomed to fall. How exactly do you plan to secede from the world's greatest military power?
Jaxson Young
>redditfags don't realize it only took a few weeks for the US military to entirely wipe out the Iraqi army, one of the strongest military powers of the Middle East
top kek. I'd fucking hop on a transport train with the troops to slaughter some city Californians who seceded
Zachary Evans
You realize "rednecks" (literally everyone in Anerica by your definition) want you gone, right? Nobody is stopping you. Why haven't you left yet, cowards?
Carson Hill
They're just talking a big talk. They know they'd be crushed nigh instantaneously. Faggots.
Jason Harris
>have no water to drink or grow food >b-but muh silicon valley
Get to it, faggot. One less you and the world is a better place.
Xavier Lewis
kek please secede, I can't wait to watch you Commiefornians rip each other apart over water rights when half of your shitty state turns into a desert. >tfw sitting next to world's largest supply of fresh water
Jordan Clark
>top agricultural producing state by cash receipts in 2015 >oh wait its california
how about u starve while CA and its immigrants eats aplenty
Eli Adams
>and it will be enforced by the army No it won't. Half the country hates Trump, and without the pretext of firing on Fort Sumter or slavery, there's no justification for invading other than butt hurt feelings.
People aren't going to sit back and watch their sons die because Donald Trump got dissed by Meryl Streep.
Charles Jackson
Weren't some in the South banking on trading with Europe, specifically Great Britain if I recall, to help both bank roll their war and get necessary supplies? If I also recall correctly, this failed pretty spectacularly with Great Britain saying fuck your shit and the U.S. Navy managing to blockade the coast. Oh and Mexico will totally support your independence while the world's biggest military and Mexico's biggest trading partner are opposing it right across a shared border.
James Richardson
Cool, when are you going to get your own electrical grid and water?
Colton Young
plenty of water in the reservoirs and snowpack right now son
Joseph Robinson
If any state leaves, that's all the weakness China needs to invade. Have fun either getting thrown into prison, shot to death, starved to death, or being a Communist. Oh wait, that last one will happen with or without China.
Xavier Baker
The US can survive without California. California can't survive without unimpeded trade
Ian Carter
>implying rural californians are going to be on board with this shit
You're delusional. So many people in rural California utterly loathe the liberals in the cities. They're not going to be giving you any of your food and water.
Grayson Gutierrez
good thing im a lefty and will use government coercion to force rural fags to produce instead of waiting around fo dat profit
Eli Gray
Lol. 20 million in SoCal live in a desert. It would take like 9 smart bombs to knock out the water.
Can't blockade??? The entire south was blockaded with civil war technology. Cali would be trivially easy.
No, the "civil war" would last about a month, then we would string up anyone in the cali government that voted to secede for treason.
Then you would make all sorts of weepy drum circle songs to bemoan your defeat.
Gabriel Gray
>implying silicon valley is special in the current year
Jonathan Murphy
but the rural ones wanted to secede when obama was in power, what's the difference?
trump has done nothing to improve the quality of their lives
Bentley Brooks
>rural Californian's move out of California because they supported Trump and would rather not be the target of scorched earth or a bombing campaign
are you really willing to support your own death sentence?
Luke Cooper
>have no water to sustain livestock and crop products >checkmate
t. Colorado River
Dominic Stewart
Right now cali might have water but wait til summer when the rain stops.. And didn't y'all just ask for federal cash for a dam that's leaking?
Hunter Sullivan
>muh water
its called not watering our golf courses for the duration of the impending conflict between progressive CA and drumpf's amerikkka
Jack Bennett
>"use government coercion to force rural fags to produce" You have no means of controlling them should you secede. You can't force them to do anything.
Jose Myers
You jackoff a really haven't thought this through. Everything you think you stand for doesn't stand a chance of working in reality. Your virtue signaling is your undoing before its done. Free healthcare, free college, no racist border walls, ect... What happens when we flood your state with illegal US citizens. What are you gonna do to stop us from mooching? Build a wall? Issue IDs? Stop us from entering? Everything you stand for is immediately btfo and gassed on the spot. You're retarded. Shut up and go to bed. Your mother and I will be up shortly to tuck you in.
Kayden Gomez
>good thing im a lefty
Ethan Butler
>california >cant control
i think our current gun laws say otherwise u dweeb
government isn't gonna be afraid of rural fags with non detachable 10 round magazines in their assault rifles and ak15s
Jace Allen
...
Andrew Diaz
we can literally choke off your supply of water in the colorado river
Jaxson Stewart
gott strafe commiefornia
Logan Young
>This fag thinks anyone abides by those gay ass rules >This fag thinks literally everyone in red areas of CA don't have grandfathered rifles >This fag thinks farmers won't haul ass out of California so they're not caught in Trump's wrath
Kek
Carson Gray
>dam issues caused by republican denial of climate change
thx for the reminder for why we want calexit
Josiah Garcia
Overall this campaign is idiotic and an impossibility. >california doesn't have its own power grid >water supply could easily be cut off >questionable access at best to central valley and its food production >nowhere near majority of population supports the measure, conservatives and liberals alike >united states military superior in every potential way >almost no foreign support
There's no way you can come back from this.
Sure, the lawful state government of California, under federal oversight, can control people who don't have any intention of rising up. But if you think your commie secessionist government in the Bay Area can control all those hicks and farmers, you're dead wrong. You simply don't have the resources.
Adam Brooks
You realize rural California is like at most two hours away from Nevada and Arizona where anyone can buy full mags for their guns, right?
Also those non-detachable firearms can be made detachable with tools. You're clearly b8ing us user, although I do believe there are califags dumb enough to think their gun control laws make them safe.
Isaac Brown
Sooo funny that OP wants to act as if California has been financially supporting the USA instead of the other way around.
Here's a tip, OP: Everyone in the country who likes California is already there. You won't be missed in the slightest, there will be celebrations if you finally relieve us of the burden of having a corrupt, crime-riddled, degenerate state full of niggers, spics, and faggots as part of our union.
We hope you do well, otherwise you might want to come back someday.
And don't forget - involuntary secession is imminent, so you may as well do it while you have the chance to make it look like it's what you wanted. #sanandreas
Colton Robinson
>not having productive mexican immigrants take over your rural lands >CA raises the minimum wage to 15% before the rest of the U.S or maximum stimulation of the economy
plenty of solutions to the muh rural fags gonna leave us
Oliver Torres
This. The US military took Baghdad in 7 days.
Jayden Foster
California will have to
Handle its own currency Handle its own military Handle its own diplomacy Handle its own social security Handle its own border protection Handle its own energy and food provision
While
USA could declare war USA could set an embargo (cuba) Its economy will take a hit, foreign investments will be chilly A massive immigration wave from south america could happen The big one could happen
California leaving the USA would just make the californians poorer and less safe.
Jonathan Adams
for*
Angel Torres
>economy in a stranglehold >oh! by the way! employers, you need to shell out almost double in your payrolls
the retarded misunderstanding of Keynesian economics is staggering
Caleb Reed
It will be fun to watch ppl suffer in Chinese California as we sell them water and natural gas from the US.
Daniel Diaz
I was going to say that California won't have drinking water, but im pretty sure Flint still doesn't
Easton Nguyen
>California is over 400 BILLION dollars in debt >California has set aside 74 billion dollars to pay for social services >they literally took that 74 billion from thin air and have no way to actually supply it
WATER you going to do?
Zachary Campbell
>Handle its own currency ez pz >Handle its own military good luck for the rest of the u.s when the ca tax payer money doesn't go to your military industrial complex >Handle its own social security plz CA is more progressive on this issue than anyone else >Handle its own border protection Good thing we like immigrants and are not xenophobic >Handle its own energy and food provision we got solar panels and plenty of land for farming
meanwhile in redneck usa u poorfags won't have silicon valley or hollywood or any good harbors on the west coast
gg
Jason Brown
wait this is a good thing top kek
>spics move into farms >trumps bombs farms, killing beaners, all the while not worrying about killing rural Californians who support America
Also
>implying spics are willing to get jobs, even if it means free food
Sebastian Hall
Please explain how you'll stop us from entering your new found utopia and mocching off of your handouts with becoming everything you hate. When the harsh really hits that US citizens will sneak into commiefornia for all of your sweet retarded no strings benefits you'll be forced to admit those horrible Americans were right all along and there has to be law and order.
Adam Harris
how many whites are in this pic
thats what i thought
Lincoln Hall
OP is total cuck
Califag here... this Bullshit circlejerk is just politicians sucking off media and vice versa.
California is full of truck driving hicks who love Trump...PLUS a few faggy liberals in LA and SF... "Calexit" is FAKE NEWS. FAKE NEWS.. FAKE NEWS...
Luke Richardson
>good luck for the rest of the u.s when the ca tax payer money doesn't go to your military industrial complex
Removing California won't make a dent in revenue collection, also t. existing military. >Handle its own energy and food provision Refuted food, and solar panels won't provide enough energy, dipshit >meanwhile in redneck usa u poorfags won't have silicon valley or hollywood or any good harbors on the west coast
Silicon valley isn't relevant, you're being outsourced. Hollywood literally isn't an argument, they'll be crushed under the rubble the carpet bombing creates. Harbors will be blockaded. You'll starve to death.
>gg
Go back to YouTube, fag
Chase Gutierrez
>what are hate speech laws
good thing only progressives will be in CA and not xenophobes
>but muh leeching
its called helping ppl off their feet so they can eventually pay into the system as well
Jaxon Kelly
Sorry but you reply didn't convinced me.
Also what about the debt?
Jose Brooks
are these people retarded? how the fuck do they expect to use their ports with the u. s. navy in total control of the pacific? why would mexico continue to trade with a rogue state along their border that is at war with the u. s. their LARGEST TRADING PARTNER. Californians are really this fucking stupid?
Jacob Scott
>what is water >what are crops >what is every non-coastal california county when will this meme die
Oliver Johnson
Notice they're all in red areas. Conservatives wouldn't let illegal spics work for them. Either they're conservative or couldn't give a shit.
They'd probably haul ass the first sign of trouble
James Lewis
>Hurr hurr hurr best I got is a picture taken at two different times of day >Hurr hurr Drumpftards literally believe working with those dang dirty red commies is a good thing >Hurr hurr hurr reset with Russia! >Hurr hurr hurr muh WWIII ovary savoir didn't get selected
Carson Young
People in the Bay Area and many of the coastal cities in SoCal are this retarded, yes. Elsewhere, no.
Alexander Bennett
>good thing only progressives will be in CA and not xenophobes
yes because then we can drop loads of 2,000 lb bombs on you, physically turn your bodies inside out, all with no collateral damage.
Luke Johnson
then why the fuck did brown have to crawl to trump for money to fix the spillway? and why would it matter if trump cut funding to sanctuary cities? if youre swimming in money you shouldnt have to take money from trump, especially on principle alone
Jason Morris
They think that if they say "I want to leave!", they get their way.
It's happened with everything else in their life, why wouldn't it work now?
Carson Gonzalez
Not even close to answering my question. You know I'm right. Look at you twist and turn trying to get away from the issue. When people come to purposely abuse the benefits you've promised. How will you stop them? Remember, the answer has to be "progressive".
Aiden Cruz
The Civil War settled this issue.
Cecession from the Union isn't possible, if you try you will be invaded and conquered just as happened to the Confederacy
Angel Gray
someone else wanted to bomb ppl for having more progressive views u tell me how that turned out
