GUYS! To secure the future of Trump and the downfall of the (((deep state))) establishment we need a symbol to show everyone that there is massive public support.
The most effective leaders in history all had one. It must be simple enough to draw with spray paint so we can easily spread our message. We need small but visible grassroots activism. We are trying to overthrow the establishment and to do that we need something to get behind. Currently there are many trump supporters that can not publicly state they are for fear of being publicly ostracised. We are a political minority, but a large minority, that is being oppressed by the majority.
>inb4 Marxism
This isn't a class struggle this is a shift in political thought that is being hammered down by the old establishment. 24/7 negative coverage of Trump by all mainstream media proves that he is doing something right for us and wrong for them. "Trump is not playing ball therefore he must go," I say fuck that. When was the last time in U.S. history where the winner was this (((universally))) hated? Bush had negative and positive reporting. Obama had negative and positive reporting. Trump is constantly shit on. Without Trump, it won't be "8 more years of X president" it will be 100 more years of the elite shitting on everybody. The US democracy has turned into a modern aristocracy.
>inb4 Drumpfg is a balzingionare tho who inherited his money.
That argument right there is the argument of a Marxist. Trump is the embodiment of a true American. He inherited some wealth from his parents (don't all of us?) and used it to build his own business. He isn't some posh fucker resting on the laurels of his family and putting just enough effort to keep his money he earned it. He also is not a guy with a black book of political connections who just waits around to use them when things go sideways. He is an outsider in all of this. He has more in common with us then he does with the (((deep state))).
Think about this: if Trump was an (((insider))) then why the constant negative press?
He is clearly not the "best" person for the job but he is the only person we will get for a long time. Despite not being the best he is still fucking good. The last time we had a guy like this was 188 years ago, when Jackson was in office. Unlike 188 years ago, though we have massive MSM that constantly pump out anti-trump propaganda which is owned by the (((deep state))) pro-Hillary camp.
We will never find proof of the (((deep state))) because it is not an obvious club like the freemasons nor is it enshrined in law. It is like an aristocracy in that it obviously exists but is not tangible. In this modern age land titles have been swapped out for un-elected official positions, for those that play along. It is possible for people on the outside to break in if they try hard enough. Random people and independents can be elected into the house or senate with little to no resistance. Try to go any further though and then the (((deep state attacks))). Don't believe me then look at Bernie and his campaign. Anybody can break into the lowest level of the aristocracy but only those who toe the line, do, and say the right things move up.
Jace Ortiz
A rough timeline of government is as follows. At one point wealth, law, and religion were all bundled at the top. This gave the head of state and the aristocracy immense power for they had law, wealth, and religion/morality on their side. The enlightenment forced the separation of religion and state in western governments in legal code. During the end of the enlightenment, the people realized that wealth and the power to make laws were too corrupting to have them bundled at the head of government. Revolution across Europe forced this separation via democracy and the implementation of levels of government like the house and the senate. The expansion of bureaucracy and many levels of government drove people that attempted to form an aristocracy deeper and deeper into the shadows. A modern aristocracy is basically the people who participate in a large web of political connections, secret transfers of money, nepotistic job offerings, priority seats in top universities, and access to information nobody but people at the top has. A modern aristocracy is not tangible like an old style one but it is sure as hell is there. What we call corruption is a new word for aristocracy.
What I am trying to say with all of this is We need Trump. He is the closest thing to a regular guy in office we will have for another 200 years. When Andrew Jackson was in office the aristocracy was small and the populace was out for blood on any form of aristocratic hegemony, as they knew no matter how safe they felt or protected they were from it, it could appear again. Kicking out the British only killed the aristocracy for a while. Today the deep state/aristocracy is large, the populace thinks that because "muh democracy" a modern aristocracy can not form and any talk of it is just ravings of a conspiratorial lunatic. Seriously, look at democracies around the world. On the outside looking in it is obvious to see that there are, what amounts to, aristocracies at the top levels of government.
Camden Price
For example: Russia, Mexico, and many others. The great thing about the US is that the laws laid down years ago, by your founding fathers, make it very hard for a U.S. aristocracy to exist. There must be a separation of powers in a sense. The politicians change the laws and the people with money fund them. Fuck, even TYT knows this. TYT wants to add an amendment to the constitution to kill the last tenuous connection between power and money. I fully support WolfPAC in this regard despite disliking TYT. Anybody who is tired if the (((deep state))) needs to support that amendment real fucking hard. The fight for that amendment will only be opposed by the U.S. aristocracy. The people that vote against it are apart of it in some way or another. What logical reason could there be to not support the idea that private citizens can only support their candidate with small sums of money AND their primary source of campaign funding is from an independent government body. We have that in Canada and I firmly believe in it. We have very few scandals in that regard here. I believe Trump will be the only one who will support the amendment if given the chance. He did run for office on his own money (and some private donations) and is not beholden to large corporations and wealthy donors unlike basically everybody else. Even if he were give a sum of money he is already independently wealthy so it would be hard to sway him. Since Trump is wealthy and has political power he could be dangerous if (when) the aristocrats are neutered, but we can cross that bridge when we come to it. He is our greatest hope when it comes to real change in Washington that we have had in decades.
James Gomez
Now, having said all of this, this is the idea:
This is no longer the usual democrat vs republican politics. Trump changed the game and now we have a chance at changing the government FOR the people like it once was years ago. WE NEED TRUMP. We need a symbol to rally behind to show our support of him. One that does not have baggage like the swastika that will dissuade the normies. The SS Trump flag I keep seeing is probably not a good choice. Vivian James was a symbol, cultural statement, and political statement, in response to gamergate. We need the same for Trump. It must be simple enough for people to draw by hand quickly so we can spread it easily. The MSM will pick-up on the symbol and try to shit on it and say it is bad and some sort of “-ism.”
The normies will see it and believe it and think they are still on top. Keep spreading it. Eventually the normies will see the massive continuous support for Trump and start to realize something is up. Some will remain entrenched in their beliefs against Trump but most will come over to our side and realize this is about more than Trump. It is about the future of the country, western ideals, and the fight against the U.S. aristocracy. The MSM, leftists, and aristocrats are already fighting against our small uprising labelling it as racism and calling us deep south idiots. The MSM and aristocrats are working in tandem to discredit us and the left are useful idiots who are Marxists and are trying to replace our dying culture with degenerate and hypocritical shit (feminist swedes wearing hijabs).
Julian Taylor
TL:DR
This is a national political and a global culture war. We are making headway but we stand to lose it if we rest on our laurels.
WE NEED TRUMP. We need a symbol to rally behind to show our support of him. One that does not have baggage like the swastika that will dissuade the normies. Vivian James was a symbol, cultural statement, and political statement, in response to gamergate. We need the same for Trump. It must be simple enough for people to draw by hand quickly so we can spread it easily by paper, spray-paint, or chisel. The MSM and Deep State/U.S. aristocrats/political elite are working to undermine us politically and culturally by using pandering Marxist tactics and anti-Trump propaganda. Right now, this is being spoken about as a left vs right issue. It is a really the small population of the Marxist left is being emboldened by the deep state to fight anything that is centre-left to far right. The far left is being pushed as mainstream to make the normies fall in line with them. They are then being used against Trump to remove his power from public support. The deep state is also trying real hard to Neuter Trumps cabinet and therefore his political power. If trump was against the people, why is “everyone” trying to bring him down? Why is there next to no public support for him? The only people publicly supporting him are anonymous, media that is not apart of the MSM, his close supporters, and the few people brave enough to go in public. Seriously, half the country voted for this guy yet to publicly support him is social suicide.
Spread the symbol, show support, eventually we will not have to hide because of the useful idiots causing the tyranny of the majority.
Jayden Rodriguez
I'm not sure if this is some kind of shillary or not and I don't have time to read it so I'm going to bump it for the potential greater good. Godspeed to you, Leaf. If you're some kind of shill (which I don't think you are) I hope you find your oven.
Jacob Jackson
>Yeah..i did kind of write an essay
Shilling for trump as he is the means to an end for a greater america.
The only way to that end is by drumming up public support. To do that we must have something to rally behind that implicitly supports Trump. Trumps own symbol created by the public. Fuck the donkey. It is the symbol of the aristocratic republicans. Trump is his own party that used the republican party as a means of getting elected.
All well known brands have a symbol. That symbol is simple and easily recognisable. The symbol by virtue of existing and being in the public sphere advertises the brand. Displaying the symbol implies support for the brand.
Trump has no way of showing support for him other than a hat. You can just leave a trump hat lying around as a political statement showing support you need some sort of symbol.
Juan Ramirez
>You can just leave a trump hat lying around
correction: You can't just leave a trump hat lying around
Samuel Clark
We already have our symbol dumbass
Jace Taylor
I have no contribution but am interested to see if it goes anywhere
Aaron Gutierrez
I am not calling for a faggy "revolution" what i am calling for is actual trump supporters and the people who are neither for or against him to just come up with something to show the guy the public has his back and show the MSM we are not taking their shit anymore. We won't need rallies to achieve out goal but rallies will form when it is no longer taboo to publicly support trump.
Jose Perez
I like that arrow cross thing on the bottom
Only issue is if we use a symbol we need to have it mean something , even the swastika meant hope
Zachary Anderson
We have to sigilize pepe.
Justin Jones
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Michael Smith
why are goyim overthinking things
Jonathan Gonzalez
I agree sigilizing of Pepe. But it has to be universal to all of us. It may get coverage, but this coverage will show a United Front against (((Deep state))). Anyway, if it doesn't work out we can still post more pictures of pepe,
James Brooks
This.!
Colton Ward
any synbol u pick will get converted into racism- the best symbol to unify behind donald with is the american flag
american flags should = donald trump
Asher Price
should have said "nothing is beyond our Reich"
Noah Rivera
you don't get it.
American flag just means you support america. That will never change.
Trump needs something of his own.
Pepe might work but I personally do not agree and it is too complicated for a normie to draw quickly.
Something like this is simple to draw and everybody knows what it stands for.
Trump needs something like that.
Isaac Walker
I like this one.
Is there a way to sigilize it?
We could take inspiration from the Anonymous sigil.
We are a bunch of internet memesters after all.
And it has to look cool. And maybe confusing so as the normies unknowingly spread it.
Isaiah Taylor
I thought a cartoon frog was our symbol
Lincoln Martin
>Trump needs something of his own. What is the MAGA hat?
Benjamin Cox
We need a different approach to show a form of internet activism against (((Them)))
Jack Gonzalez
You can't manufacture a symbol unless you are the head of the movement. You could try using a spiral, but that will be easily related to the swastika.
Adam Hill
you're still overthinking this. this cross itself is enough the templars were christian knights that were betrayed by fellow christians and forsaken by the pope to be staked. specifically because their order was made rich by donations and money courier work for pilgrims who wanted to transfer gold to Jerusalem, and Phillip IV of France wanted to rob them modern day first worlders, mostly caucasians, are straying right back to this path and betray their kin. a modernized templar cross is befitting for Trump
Christopher Jenkins
Wow...yes. Totally. Nothing says "I support Trump" like hanging a banner with a picture of the hat on it.
Nothing says "I support Trump" like wearing a lapel pin of a MAGA hat.
Know what fuck it... Here comes godwin's law
Nazis had the swastika as their symbol. They had "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer" as their slogan.
Trump has his slogan but he does not have a symbol for people to rally behind.
For fuck sake Shillary had an H with an arrow through it as her symbol.
Elijah Allen
SIGIL TIME. We must work that Occultic Meme magick
Owen Gutierrez
Just write the acronym; MAGA. Did you hear about the "chalkenings" this summer? I don't really agree with your whole idea about how we need to spread our message by spreading our symbol everywhere. We are spreading our message of nationalist through the internet. This discussion is kind of pointless for Canada anyways. Their isn't a nationalist movement here and Trump is not our guy.
Noah Peterson
You make a fair point but I think symbol has too much history to be used effectively without being confusing.
If nothing else I at least got the conversation started. If this thread dies somebody will probably revive it later.
memeing trump into office was not enough. I know this site has the capability to produce something useful. Look what you did with gamergate. After all was said and done the idea that it was not just harassment it was about STOP FUCKING WITH OUR GAMES.
It was a culture war and we won it. Not decisively but won it none the less.
This new fight is about more than that. It is about draining the swamp and fighting the marxism that is killing our culture.
Austin Long
here's a symbol for you to rally behind 8===D~ faggot
Aiden Campbell
>and we won it It's barely begun. Why do GG'ers always claim that they won though? I don't see either side as having won anything. The media showed how it colludes and pushes agendas but what else did you accomplish? I do agree with you though that we have a lot of work ahead of us to expose all the Marxist philosophy that is infecting the culture and has a grip over academia.
Dominic Williams
MAGA
Jaxon Mitchell
The big people in gamergate are literally who's now.
Diversity comics sales are declining. One of the lead writers of DC or Marvel comics (can't remember) said that diversity is no longer their primary goal going forward and storytelling is what they will focus on.
please somebody repost this. it is late and i am in need of sleep.
this IS a conversation that needs to be had. if we genuinely want to win this we need something to rally behind. We need to be unified. We can no longer meme. We need to get properly political. Are constant trump support threads are helping but be need to go at it harder.
Samuel Thomas
why not a lion? every Trump supporter knows it even the normies. I know it's reddit tier but everybody would recognize it
Joseph Lee
4 Ts forming a cross.
Ryder Adams
the Lion Rampant is the unofficial flag of Scotland, he's mother was Scottish and it's a very western symbol. reminiscent of old school heraldry
Sebastian White
That could be Trumps party symbol! Fuck the donky trump gets a lion
Nolan Lee
Similar (as example)
Lucas Morris
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Bentley Torres
good idea but too close to swastika. will scare away normies.
Levi Phillips
fuck you leaf
trump colludes with isreal, he deserves none of these symbols
Ryan Taylor
>a cross is like a swastika
Grayson Murphy
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Ayden Watson
on a flag like that the normies will sure as hell think so
Nolan Thompson
But the left can daily use communist flags in the streets. Okay.
Justin Williams
maybe something like this? >pic related
i know i fucking suck as drawing. We really need to stay away from anything that "looks" like fascism because the MSM will scare the normies away
Jack Cruz
he's right you need something fresh and slick, not a symbol that can be turned into swastika with few eraser strokes
Benjamin Perry
Hurr looks too much like the AWB flag
Brayden Barnes
>We really need to stay away from anything that "looks" like fascism because the MSM will scare the normies away
OH NO NOT THE MSM I FORGOT THEY HAVE SO MUCH POWER
Yeah nevermind. You're still in that cucked stage where you cower to leftist thought crime and legitimize the media.
If you're really at the point where you don't want to use a CROSS because you fear the media will turn it into a swastika, you're part of the problem.
Jose Bailey
Because it is mainstream. edgy, not really offensive, and have been doing it for years.
Anything related to fascism though is completely taboo. Even though this board loves fascism and we kind of want Trump to be that way we can not use anything similar to the third reich. We need something new or at the very least different enough not to get us labelled as fascists immediately.
im just spit balling ideas. if you have nothing to contribute then fuck off.
Brayden Cooper
>Because it is mainstream
The hammer & sickle was not mainstream 5 years ago. The media and the far left, which you are helping legitimize, gave rise to it.
>Anything related to fascism though is completely taboo
Oh ok. So the left can get so radicalized to the point where there's literal rioting communists in the streets and calling for killing people, but you wet your pants over the thought of using a cross because the media might call you a Nazi.
Because God knows that would be a new tactic by them.
Yea, nah, you're part of the problem. A radical problem warrants a radical response. Failure do to so is enabling the problem and helps it grow bigger.
Go use a flower and then piss all over the flower when the media calls it literally Hitler.
Colton Parker
You are to deep into the ideology. Small steps are needed to ensure our victory. Hitler built up to that victory slowly. In the beginning the people were against him and he slowly gained power and was the supreme leader. Yes the MSM has huge power still because they are cucked by U.S. aristocrats. We need to play the game. We need a symbol to rally behind. We already have the person.
Owen Jenkins
You're already defeated because you give legitimacy to the enemy.
Jaxon Cooper
You misinterpret me being called a Nazi for being scared of it.
In the U.S. being associated with nazism essentially de-legitimizes you. If we want a movement we can not be associated with nazis. Clearly our movement is nazi-like in nature in that we want trump to be a bit authoritarian and ruin the left but displaying that will kill the movement.
Think of it like the "displaying your power level" meme.
Jackson Phillips
>You misinterpret me being called a Nazi for being scared of it.
You are. Literally any symbol is bad according to your logic. You can use a dot and would say we have to change it because CNN said LITERALLY HITLER.
>Clearly our movement is nazi-like in nature in that we want trump to be a bit authoritarian and ruin the left but displaying that will kill the movement.
I don't think you have ANY idea how badly Trump supporters and the right in general wants to be authoritarian as a response to the communist left. Those who can be swayed will also follow.
Jace Carter
They gained legitimacy by way of being elected. To remove it we must have a movement that makes people vote our way. To make people vote our way we need something to rally behind so we can display our allegiance. We have Trump and we have activism in our favour but we do not have our symbols.
Lincoln Reyes
templar cross with a T on top
Hudson Phillips
See
James Gutierrez
I like the trump lion. It's a good symbol
Pic unrelated.
Thomas Cox
adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/pepe-the-frog.html reminder that no matter what you choose it will get branded a hate symbol and marginalized every time. using any identifiable image to represent an ideology will give the radical left an easy target. its much better to just be well-informed and level-headed, and, when necessary, willing speak up for your country and culture, and for truth and justice. your words will have more weight with more people if you're a normal fucking person and not a thinly-veiled racist cult member. if you have a pathological need to belong to a group then get an effay undercut and suck richard spencers dick or, better yet, a shotgun, because you larping faggots do more harm than good
Cameron Foster
See
Samuel Ortiz
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Ryan Rivera
>reminder that no matter what you choose it will get branded a hate symbol and marginalized every time
OP doesn't seem to understand this.
Brayden Taylor
You are misinterpreting what i am saying. Anything third Reich-esque will kill the movement in the U.S. If you do not understand that then I can't help you. That "T-cross" image you posted is from a movie that used that flag as a fascist symbol.
If we used that t cross thing it would immediately be identified and our "power level" revealed.
Hitler is so demonized by everybody except Sup Forums that it would kill the fucking movement. We need to go at this carefully.
Landon Thomas
I wish you neets actually understood the dangers of fascism. I can't believe anyone could admire Nazi Germany let alone want a US President to model the country after it.
Dominic King
>Anything third Reich-esque will kill the movement in the U.S >no matter what you choose it will get branded a hate symbol and marginalized every time You're an idiot.
>We need to go at this carefully.
Indeed. Let's use flowers and tiptoe while communists burn cars and riot while waving USSR flags.
Joshua Roberts
Hi bluepill.
Gabriel Bennett
By virtue of supporting Trump we are branded as hateful. What we do not need is an obvious connection to fascism, the most continuously vilified political ideology in the U.S.
I am trying to say we need to go about this in a smart way. Shooting ourselves in the foot at the starting line is stupid.
Anything we chose will be condemned but choosing something something so close to a swastika is fucking retarded.
Anthony Allen
lets be real here. the communist movement is small.
also, we are not fighting the communists we are fighting the establishment that empowers the communists and uses them to gain more power.
Michael Kelly
let's go the Dr.Manhattan route
Nicholas Morales
I'm probably one of the handful of redpills actually here. Thinking Hitler did nothing wrong doesn't make you privy to secret knowledge, only an easily swayed anti-conformist moron.
Levi Diaz
>By virtue of supporting Trump we are branded as hateful
Might as well pack it up then because the media called him Hitler. At least according to your way of thinking.
>Anything we chose will be condemned
THEN WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT? You just admitted your own logic is retarded.
Noah Flores
milk.
Juan Fisher
>the communist movement is small
No it isn't. Not anymore.
Dominic Jones
0/10
Isaiah Jenkins
I agree that it can't look obliviously fascist it should be more like a nationalist symbol like The National Front in France. Here is one version the i saved when people were doing a Trump wallpaper dump or something like that.
Levi Rodriguez
Fuck OFF with your fucking stupid autism symbols you utter retards. What symbol does the left use? Exactly.
Jacob Murphy
>I agree that it can't look obliviously fascist
You're already defeated then.
>Here is one version the i saved when people were doing a Trump wallpaper dump or something like that.
I made that from this a year ago.
Jose Baker
What symbols do the left use. Yeah it's a really mystery
Jeremiah Gray
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Carter Diaz
If you strip away the american background it looks a bit less fashy. As enjoyable as it would be to have a Trump symbol no matter what it would be the left would just say "Swastika, Swastika, Swastika". So this thread is in vein.
Ryder Williams
A trident, used to defend ones people, used by lady Britannia and each point can represent family, country and duty.
Christopher Reyes
Fuck it I see you are here just to shit on everything and take snippets of what I say out of context.
What I have to say is we need a symbol to get behind to support Trump and our movement. That symbol should at the very least not have been used as a fascist before because it it fuck up the movement right out of the gate.
It is like an anti-gay movement having two guys fucking and a thumbs up as their symbol.
We need to promote our symbol hard. If trump adopts it then WOO HOO for us but it likely will not happen. What we want though is for it to be associated with trump. By having a bunch of pro-trump propaganda will gill gain supporters. Political movements are not created solely by the head of it but in conjunction with the head.
Michael Jackson
You can easily graffiti a trident and they are already recognised, unlike some random dribble of lines some people may come up with.
Dylan Nguyen
Here's my take on MAGA since everyone else thinks crosses will be turned into swastikas
Jaxon Kelly
I agree a trident would probably work best. (inb from the left "Poseidon is Nazi")
Bentley Fisher
>"OI LOOK AT THIS FORK LOVING CUNT" >"YOU WOT MATE?" >"FASCIST CUNT" >"FOCKIN NAZI" >get knocked down >unintelligible shouting >stomping sounds
Owen Diaz
>What I have to say is we need a symbol to get behind to support Trump and our movement >no matter what it would be the left would just say "Swastika, Swastika, Swastika". So this thread is in vein.
Just as I said earlier: you're already defeated when you give legitimacy to the enemy.
The flag doesn't even need to be red. it can be a gold T cross on a black background like many of his promotional products.
But guess what? That'll be called LITERALLY HITLER too.
How about a gold cross on a white background? LITERALLY HITLER.
How about just a white flag period with nothing fucking on it? LITERALLY HITLER.
This is your retarded logic.
Josiah Collins
Normies aren't scared of a trident like any of the nazi like symbols
Adam Lewis
LITERALLY HITLER BASH THE FASH FUCKIN NAZIS OFF OUR STREETS HURRRR
Brody Gutierrez
Ahh....not really. They WILL call whatever we do as fascist but as long as it isn't based of nazi stuff there accusations will be baseless and the normies will not listen to them.
We need a symbol.
Can not be previously used.
The left cries "nazi" but they can't back it up. (how trump won election in a nut shell)
We win because we are unified and have a new symbol that can not be traced back to hitler the eternal boogetman.
There is a lot of nuance to this but what else did you think would happen? If we want to win we need to promote ourselves but not in a retarded way(think netflix and the hey white people trailer)
Mason Martinez
man this has potential, honestly
Andrew Myers
you mean this lets take the rainbow flag
Jaxon Ward
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Carter Reed
Could work. If somebody with photoshop-fu can make a more official version of it then we can see the real potential of it.
Wyatt Mitchell
>They WILL call whatever we do as fascist but as long as it isn't based of nazi stuff there accusations will be baseless and the normies will not listen to them
Normies don't listen to them period. Only the radical left now.
Jayden Perez
but it can and will be traced back to the internet hate machine 9gag