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We tried so you dont...spoiler...it doesnt work...fuck offf

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>intrinsically impossible economic system
Into the trash it goes.

Lots of people still miss Tito.

If you spend 8 hours making a pot you know that making a pot costs 8 human labor hours + the labor hours that went into the materials used in making the pot. So then you base dollars on hours of labor and then everything costs the same amount of labor that was put into it.

Lot's of people miss Hitler. Most of them are posting in this very board.

>implying they were actually alive when he ruled germany

Who are you to judge them? Most of you commies still worship some dead man's 19th century deathcult like it's still relevant.

They might miss Tito...but do they miss goli otok the debt that yugoslavia was left with or maybe the yugoslav civil war...no...

Except all billion forms of labor do not have the exact same value. Try again.

How do you quantify the value of labor?

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Is "X" wage labor?

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Yeah! Fucking commies who think words mean things!

>When you're so desperate to keep your shitty thread going that you'll reply to any post with an autistic counter argument.
Keep failing /leftypol/

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WIthout a market? You don't.

All labor is worth the same. When you sell your labor your promising to do something for a certain amount of time. Doesn't matter what that thing is.

No, all labor is not worth the same. And yes, it does matter what that things is.

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lets get physical ph-physical

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What makes the glorious market so amazing about what things are worth? Why can't we just take a survey or have a rating system to decide what things are worth?

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Fuck off kike

I thought all labor was the same? Why do we need a survey now? Are you implying that all labor is not worth the same?

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>Why can't we have things that are literally markets but just not call them that
>All labor is worth the same
Labor has no intrinsic value economics hasn't viewed this as valid for 150 years when all of LTV was trashed

I would say all labor is worth the same but I'm trying to make a system you will accept thats not market socialism.

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Disprove the LTV

>All labor is worth the same. When you sell your labor your promising to do something for a certain amount of time. Doesn't matter what that thing is.

So one hour if picking the corn husks out of my shit is the same as one hour if curing cancer?

Goddamn communism is great.

Is one hour of a surgeon saving your life and one hour of a McDonalds cook making burgers worth the same to you?

That's like asking a physicist to disprove flat earth.

You're 150 years behind there's no reason to accommodate your own willful ignorance.

Subjective and objective value theories are the two accepted and debated right now. You should get to reading basic economic concepts instead of talking about the flat Earth's of economics

Disprove it.

> Why can't we just take a survey

We do. Every day, all the time, on an individual basis. And arbitrage helps cut down on locality problems.

No the burdens on you bro.
No one has considered the theory in economics for 150 years it's your burden to bring it back

You have no understatement of economics, let's get that straight. I could tell you that marx was just doing his own take on the cost of production theory of value, and the very base that marx used is considered wrong, but you wouldn't understand it. You are a person who things 1 hour of labor is worth the same regardless what what that labor is.

Value is subjective and marginal. It is decided by whoever ponders to do the exchange,the consumer, not the line of production.

Prove it.

I already did, unfortunately, you are too stupid to understand.