How can anyone be right wing? It is a toxic ideology that always and objectively leads to evil every time

How can anyone be right wing? It is a toxic ideology that always and objectively leads to evil every time.

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>Communism
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

your understanding of the political spectrum is risible at best... fascism belong at both end.

>pol pot
>stalin
>mao
>freedom
really makes me think

Me on the right

>Thinking Anarchism is either freedom or capable of lasting more than 3 seconds

my sides.

>Nazis and fascists more right-wing than monarchy

You had ONE job.

why is monarchy between "conservative" and nazis lmfao what the fuck come on

Nazism is NatSoc. It belongs on the left. Before socialism and before conservatism. Fascism belongs on both ends and Monarchism belongs dead center.

Weak bait

You can have a Fascist Monarchy...

>communism
>freedom
>fascism
>slavery

Seriously read a book dude, whatever attempts to arrive at communism end up being their ultimate goal is still to eliminate social hierarchies.

You realize that socialism and communism are completely separate things right? Communism is an end goal fantasy that has never, in any way existed, even a little bit. A Communist society would be stateless, because that is one of the fucking core principals of the idea.

A. Communist. Party. Is. Not. Communist. In. Practice. You sub-human scum.

>nazis and fascists are right wing
>anarchy is left wing
>communism and anarchy are similar ideologies
top kek who made this

>When you slaughter your neighbour because he failed to recognise your status as God but he was in charge of the communities poisoned water so everyone is better off by dying from starvation rather than polio

>it's not real communism
Like clockwork.

>A Communist society would be stateless, because that is one of the fucking core principals of the idea.

Citation needed Marx

Once they seize the means of production, who owns it?

How can the owner of all property not be a state?

When left wing retatds are sperglords,what are you supposed to do?

>Oh hey mr working class man. Yeah, in some middle class tosser, and for your own good you are now going to give up everything you've ever worked for. Don't worry though! I'm going to murder a bunch of rich people too.

why the fuck did you tag me faggot. apologize.

>national socialism is right wing
I will never understand this.

Fixed that for you

someone who is actively taking steps to achieve communism is communist in practice you retard.

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Isn't it a circle though?

Let good ol no true Scotsman argument works every time. I wish we could also say nazi Germany's wasn't real natsoc and wave the swastika like the hammer and sickle flags.

The agony of this irony is driving my crazy.

>You sub-human scum.
A leftist calling somebody subhuman scum RICH
whatever man hope you fall on a piece of lego in your commie playground

I'm off for today you will never be able to fight me in a argument because i just left and won you should try it aswell

What group thought that image would be good to shill on Sup Forums.

This one gave me a good chuckle, OP

Who determines what the means of production are? Technically our bodies are means of producing babies, do you want the state to dictate when/whom we have sex with and for what purpose? Why are you advocating public ownership of a persons body silly

>communism
>freedom

Lol wut?

You realize that absolute freedom with no order results in people just people fighting over basic resources, right?

>Communism is an end goal fantasy that has never, in any way existed, even a little bit

yes, it's a fantasy that has never existed and never will

>nazi Germany's wasn't real natsoc

They abandoned NatSoc in 1937 because it wasn't efficient for rearming and militarization

>I can't tell the difference between state capitalism and socialism

Read a book. Communism can be achieved.

Because the right stands for the truth above all else. Even if it is a harsh redpill to swallow. The left ignores the truth in place of feelings.

>I won't answer you but I will say "read a book"

You win, you ever considered being a lawyer? There's a lot of money you can donate to the CCP winning arguments like that

Have fun achieving communism the next time we start putting you trash in camps.

Communism is by definition the removal of the state. Try cracking open a book once in a while you worthless fuck.

how?

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Read a book. A stateless society can't be achieved.

Between monarchism and fascism should be IMPERIALISM-- ALL HAIL THE AMERICAN EMPIRE

A Communist party is there to, in theory, get a society TO Communism, it doesn't start Communist you dipshit. Socialism and State Capitalism ARE NOT Communism.

>Communism can be achieved

But it can't be sustained, at least without murdering a shitload of people.

An Ancom
Not well known for their thinking skills.

Oh look, the poorfag is talking

Good luck having communism with 400+ million people.

Good luck having everyone do the necessary actions to support one another with no exchange of capital or promise of property ownership.

Citation needed Marx

Once they seize the means of production, who owns it?

How can the owner of all property not be a state?

Learn to read, then Read a book. I never said communism was state capitalism. I said communism cannot be achieved.

>Real communism hasn't been tried because it fails horrifically before it can be fully implemented

This faggot means absolute globalism. No borders, no nationalities, no ethnicities. Just billions apon billions of poor brown people slaving away for the ones in charge.

Globalisation is Communism.

And you realize that the ideas of Communism are by there very nature authoritarian which is why every attempt at a communist state just ends up being an extremely oppressive authoritarian regime right?

Nazi Germany was successful and prosperous until it got attacked by the entire world.

Why would we want to try to hide its accomplishments like the Marxists hide their failures?

State capitalist governments calling themselves Communist Parties is not Communism. The USSR was hijacked by state capitalists who abused the state.

It's like how you call yourselves Republicans but you're actually fascists who hate republics.

Where in the Fiction section do i find books on Proper Communism?

I cant believe we are headed to conservatism fucking rural retards.

>When you hate communism but love that communists always die under communism

>i-it's not real communism!
Like a broken fucking record

Citation needed Marx

Once they seize the means of production, who owns it?

How can the owner of all property not be a state?

>Once they seize the means of production, who owns it?

The people, fascist.

Let me repeat myself:

Good luck having communism with 400+ million people.

Good luck having everyone do the necessary actions to support one another with no exchange of capital or promise of property ownership.

You're a geniune idiot.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT STATE CAPITALISM YOU FUCKING RETARD.

Your ideal communist society, your end goal, is impossible. It will never occur. It's a fantasy utopia land that cannot exist in the real world.

Go on, repeat your stupid fucking nonsense about STATE CAPITALISTS

But i call myself a fascist.

>The people
How do they make sure it's equally distributed?

>anarchism is left wing
>roads.jpeg

The political spectrum isn't like a line my high school government teacher told me I remember, he said it's more like a globe, so the farther you go around you eventually end up in the same place. A line describing political ideologies is just retarded.

No one can possibly be this much of an ideologue.

Didn't know forced labour in a gulag and communist party mismanagement of agriculture causing famine level starvation was freedom. I'm a MarxMan now.

Because if we highlight anything remotely positive we get hit with "muh six gazillion" and called a racist.. It's too deep seeded into western culture.

In this sense, cultural Marxism has achieved its goal of denouncing possibly one of the most functional political ideologies and keeping it buried forever.

Why can't capitalist fascists come to grip with reality? If we didn't have you fucking state capitalists fucking things up we could be living in a utopia right now.

The people decide.

Shitty spectrum OP, here's the real one

>they don't automatically support me like on reddit...
>how can I make them see how great me and communism are
>I got it!

>that'll show em!

You didn't address anything my comment said you fucking retard.
Communism can be debunked just by saying two words: human nature. You have to convince everyone that it is in there best interest to adhere to your silly notions about publicly owned means of production. Which in and of itself would require an oppressive authoritarian regime to accomplish. But as soon as someone got greedy and acted in their own rational self interest communism would fall apart like clockwork.

Exactly what I was thinking. But you know muh fascism

So everyone owns a little share of everything?

Sounds like you have nothing and just follow the ideology that will give you tiny little crumbs, which is more than you've been able to scrape together with your pathetic useless existence.

Rapist.

True, proper axis

An organised group of people?
An organised group of people following the same political and economic ideology?
An organised group of people following the same political and economic ideology that owns all the property in a jurisdiction?
An organised group of people following the same political and economic ideology that owns all the property in a jurisdiction and directs how it is used?
An organised group of people following the same political and economic ideology that owns all the property in a jurisdiction that directs hot it is used and distributed to the people?

A... dare I say it.....................state?

Op's post and op in a shell nut to be honest.

Maybe if we just murder a few hundred million people more, we will finally establish true communism and utopia, right?

That's why I believe in a Constitutional monarchy

>fascists can't come to grip with reality
>utopia

Someone Just learned what communism was in 10th grade World History.

You keep (You)ing a bunch of random people and giving them all one reply that only really applies to one or two of them. I tell you your dream utopia is impossible and you respond with IT WAS STATE CAPITALISM, as if I brought that up.

>we could be living in a utopia right now.

But I guess you're just an idiotic ideologue caught up in his dreams of a fantasy world.

Let me repeat myself again:

Let me repeat myself:

Good luck having communism with 400+ million people.

Good luck having everyone do the necessary actions to support one another with no exchange of capital or promise of property ownership.

Do you know what happened to the Pilgrims when they tried communism-lite?

They died.

You know what happened when they had property ownership?

They flourished.

>But, but, but, IT'S NEVER BEEN TRIED!

Wanna know how I know you're a useful idiot?

This is a myth.
Socialism is poison.
Fascism is socialism.
Unregulated capitalism is best
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Not an argument.

I know right? It's so scary for a greedy pig like you.

Fascist pig.

Not an argument.

Communism never murdered anyone.

Said the fascist.

Fuck off. I'm done trying to reason with you fucking nazis.

Really? Because if you shared out all of the wealth around the whole planet, everyone in your country and mine would be significantly worse of so some pajeets and m'bekis could have 15 more kids.

Why do people respond seriously to obvious shitposts.

Once again:
>make this argument
>refer to this post
>repeat

top kek, I knew someone couldn't be as stupid as you

you're just a troll

>Intelligent arguments are shitposts

Only in a fascist's mind.

>Let me repeat myself again:
>Let me repeat myself:
you proved my point ()
perfectly

>not an argument response to my argument
>hurr durr I'm trying to reeeeeeeesssooooonnnn with you naaaaaazzzzzzzziiiiiisss
Holy shit. You might actually be the dumbest person in existence.

>Everyone I don't like is a Fascist

Shit bait famalam, 2/10 got me to respond.

Communism can not and will not work because there is no personal goal to achieve or become greater. Human nature will in turn become displaced and disparaged in knowing that there is no more to them then what they currently do. Anarchy will start because there is no leader ship or system to stop people from uprising. I have read the communist manifesto and it is the fable dream of a man who likens people to ants. If there are no dreams or aspirations to become better we do not care about our fellow man. We are not robots.

>Communism
>Freedom
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