Holy shit, you all thought the Flynn resignation meant Trump was in trouble... Looks like you forgot we have a M A D D O G for our Secretary of Defense.
>“Americans cannot care more for your children’s future security than you do,” Mr. Mattis said in his first speech to NATO allies since becoming defense secretary. “I owe it to you to give you clarity on the political reality in the United States and to state the fair demand from my country’s people in concrete terms.”
>“America will meet its responsibilities,” he said, but he made clear that American support had its limits.
>In his speech to NATO defense ministers, Mr. Mattis repeated a call made by previous American secretaries of defense, for European allies to spend more on their militaries. His comments on Wednesday give teeth to President Trump’s expressed skepticism about the alliance.
>What’s more, Mr. Mattis went further than his predecessors in apparently linking American contributions to the alliance to what other countries spend.
>“If your nations do not want to see America moderate its commitment to this alliance, each of your capitals needs to show support for our common defense,” he said.
The EU representative's face could be a "concern" meme..
Levi Bailey
From another article,
>Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Wednesday that the dismissal of National Securing Adviser Michael Flynn would have "no effect at all" on his dealings with a White House in turmoil.
>"Frankly, this has no impact" on his own job as defense secretary, Mattis said in his first comments on the abrupt resignation late Monday night of Flynn.
>pay for Europe's defense for decades >Nato countries pay tiny percent of GDP into NATO and dump the rest into muh socialism >tell Euros to pay fair share >Euros threaten to chimp out and create own army >realize that they'd be spending 10% of GDP into military instead of .03% of GDP >Europeans meekly stop their autistic screeching and pay up >mfw
Mason Lopez
the danefag looked cucked as fuck
James Rodriguez
This. They're better off paying their fucking cut so we don't pull out. I swear this whole EU army thing was just a huge bluff: it's impractical and risky.
Nicholas Martin
nah
Connor Gray
EU army? Where would they even get the men to do it? It would be a army of refugees and cucks.
Evan Howard
Is that niggers head full of helium? It's enormous.
Joshua Bailey
>Where would they even get the men to do it? You never heard of the stronk Euro feminists? I'm sure they can do it better than a "man"
Jose Barnes
Go ahead then. It's your shekels.
Owen Jenkins
>NATO countries have committed to spending 2 percent of their G.D.P. on the military, but the only other countries that meet that criteria are Britain, Poland, Estonia and Greece.
>Britain, Poland, Estonia and Greece. I always forget about you guys. I expect Britain, but Poland, Estonia and Greece? Fucking Greece? The rest of you NATO fucks should be ashamed.
Jack Martin
yep. your gonna have to fight israels wars all by yourself
Connor Gonzalez
If we weren't already pulling most of the burdens ourselves anyway, we wouldn't want to renegotiate this shitty treaty.
Nolan Walker
Alright lads, lets do it for another thread
*joins SCO*
LOL
Jayden Kelly
HAS THERE EVER BEEN MORE OF A STRAIGHT FUCKING GANGSTER THAN MAD DOG MATTIS?
Elijah Gonzalez
too bad they will never have decent military's that don't sit behind the wire and just get drunk in the messhall all day
it's either going to be >"lel, lel we pay our 2%" and do nothing about the shit training they have or >"EU army strongk!" But don't bother to train their military on a level similar to the US or Britain
Noah Murphy
suck a dick leftie, you're no countryman of mine
Dylan Wilson
How do you think he planned to kill that lanklet?
Jason Long
... Are you being serious or joking? You actually think you have anything to add or detract from this shit? Your country has less than 24 thousand people in it's military. We have twice as many troops stationed in a foreign country than you have active duty.
We could conquer you by fucking accident, and you want to try and hold a high ground on us?
"You're gonna have to do it all by yourself"
What were you doing to begin with?
Connor Rivera
wtf i love mattis now
Blake Richardson
This could be a really shitty TV show, where a cucky EU nation-traitor teams up with a slow-witted ME/NA guy to fight the enemies of the EU Army™
Luke Lopez
>not posting the chart
Luke Ortiz
My thoughts exactly as soon as I started reading the articles. What an unmitigated badass who just lays down the basis of Western hegemony with absolutely no apologies.
Tyler Scott
then whats the issue?
Xavier Morris
Fuck yeah Estonia
Michael Harris
>Holy shit, you all thought the Flynn resignation meant Trump was in trouble
No one thought that
Austin Hill
I figured people would appreciate the photo more than a graph. But yes, to illustrate the point, these EU bois need to pay the fuck up.
Ethan Parker
>fucking estonia
i mean sure, it's a percent, but still! look at all these lazy fucks getting showed up by eastern europe and the anglo menace.
i guess maybe being wolves on the border for the last 500 years is a hard lesson. way to go eesti
Christian Scott
There are infinite universes and in every one of them he does indeed have a plan to kill him and in a different way.
Matthew Richardson
Mattis is not a Trump loyalist, he will backstab him the first chance he gets.
Jaxon Hall
There isn't one.
I just don't understand why you are so angry at the US wanting you to meet your obligations when we have been subsidizing your entire continent's defense for decades.
Owen Bennett
Look at these fucking assholes. It makes me angry.
Fucking "pay denbts" Greece is ponying up, "gibs me dats" Poland is coughing up the shekels, even Estonia is paying the amount agrred upon
Blake Mitchell
>Greece of all nations surpassed the minimum by .4% >Estonia and Poland either meet or passed the minimum.
Luxembourg I can understand since its a city state but holy shit the rest of NATO needs to either get out or step up
Aaron Sanchez
Fucking leafs.
Gavin Gonzalez
Mattis 2024
Nathan James
...
Mason Collins
Build your army you miserable faggots. The EU is a competitor at best and an enemy at worst. We laugh at you.
Joseph Ramirez
no ones angry. theres just no reason for nato to exist anymore. with the soviet union gone american interests are not necessarily european interests.
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Charles Gray
Eastern Europe pays because they know what it's like to be behind the iron curtain.
Western Europe has been under the American umbrella for 60+ years. They are complacent.
European interests are directly contrary to American interests at this point. War needs to happen.
Brayden Brown
then it would be prudent to have an army
Aaron Rogers
>summoning that eestiposter
Nolan White
if the USA could bring home troops from the Baltics and Germany around how much would they save? Isn't there around 30,000 American troops in Germany alone?
Zachary Ross
Keep me posted.
Jason Sanders
Well the US doesn't necessarily lose if NATO dissolves.
Luke Stewart
The US military has an airforce stationed in Europe that is larger than the combined air power of all NATO countries.
That says it all.
Oliver Myers
>Isn't there around 30,000 American troops in Germany alone?
Not anymore. But the US should get out of Europe, and let the Russians have it. We are just fucked.
Dominic Sanchez
>France, Britian pls >fuck asutria pls give us independence and their land >also shit we need 2 million germans and also the factories they built pls give us Sudetenland pls >pls guys we can't survive as a country if we don't have Sudetenland
>nobody in the room stops to think that a country that can't survive without german people and german factories should exist
>gives germans and increases its manufacturing by 60%
>several years later
>give us back Sudetenland czecks >NO ITS OURS FUCK OFF >ok well we will take it
>Guys pls >France >Britian pls >please help us pls
Czecks back to their old tricks eh?
Just face the fact. You're country is shit and can't survive without Germans.
Logan Torres
so bring home the troops and make Germany spend money on defense instead of refugees, maybe the bundeswehr won't be such a joke. to paraphrase Bismark:
>President Trump, what would you do if the Bundeswehr invaded >I would arrest them
Luis Cruz
Mad Man and Mad Dog. The best.
Mason Allen
What the absolute hell. Greece's government can't even feed itself and they're outpacing Germany in contributions to shared defense?
Merkel ought to hang for this.
Bentley Myers
Germany pays 1.2% while Canada pays 1%.
Connor Richardson
Rofl the only time NATO has been called in to defend a member was when 9/11 attacked the USA and everyone was called to go to Afghanistan. Get your head out your arse you stupid nigger
Matthew Gomez
mattis is the most well spoken, diplomatic and thoughtful in government right now
Andrew Lewis
>with the soviet union gone american interests are not necessarily european interests.
Actually, with the Soviet Union gone American interests are the only interests left. The EU's entire existence is predicated on the US's ability to protect it.
You literally do not exist without us.
Charles White
>Mattis is not a Trump loyalist, he will backstab him the first chance he gets.
mattis is too diplomatic. he has always spoken kindly to those in authority he disagrees with. trump is in awe of mattis , and gives him free reign
Ryan Martinez
Hes not a trump loyalist but hes a patriot and believes in the consitution/duty
Luke Harris
He should be president, honestly, but I know he'd never run.
He just honestly cares more about the wellbeing of the country than anyone else.
Dylan Ward
our forces are small but canadian and australian soldiers are still badasses. have you seen the public relations training videos the bundeswehr put out last year? i wish i had sauce for you but it was like a quarter women and they didn't exactly look combat ready. i think the days of prussian military precision are long past
Hudson Phillips
This I honestly just hate Trump now. If Mattis doesn't run in 2020 I might just vote for Hillary.
Nolan Baker
That's completely fair. We really should be paying more. Our navy, airforce and army are completely understaffed and under equipped. I wish Trudeau would get his head out of his ass.
Adrian Bailey
Don't worry, Trudeau is one more terrorist attack away from remiltarising and declaring Canada a nationalist socialist state.
Lucas Parker
>EU Army >Same as your individual armies but less coordinated and more bureaucratic wew lad
Camden Wilson
How does a cunt vote in us elections
Jose Campbell
Mattis is a homo. Never married. Gay for man on man violence. Sick fuck, really. As gay as a priest.
Kayden King
>We sent 40 soldiers, that's as many as four tens Thank you for your meaningless contribution.
Jacob Russell
Fuck Ukrainians
Joshua Howard
Poland is supporting their own homegrown defense industry suppliers as well - while also being an almost entirely White country... Really gets that noggin joggin
Owen Thomas
>that face Jesus christ mad dog must be really scary when he is working
guys looks like he is about to shit himself badly.
Oliver King
This
Brayden Cook
Yeah, that's actually very surprising
Connor Foster
I've never understood the rampant European nationalism. I understand French and British nationalism but why would Ukranians choose to be irrelevant?
Christian Flores
>Mattis is trying to get America to stop being world police I don't understand why this is a bad thing. I mean, europe needs to be rearmed to stop the moors.
Connor Carter
Europe has been addicted to American welfare since the end of WW2.
All Europe does is take American dollars and then brag about how "progressive" and "enlightened" they are.
Continuing support for NATO is one of Trumps worst positions, just completely dump the EU cunts
Nathaniel Peterson
Lmao at the shrieks of parasites cut off from the host. Hehe no more blood for u little leech :)
Blake Walker
to be fair man they lost to some emus and fish so they know their soldiers aren't worth the air they breathe.
Jaxson Lewis
EU army won't work out because simply put, containing Russia and China isn't very high on the priority list of the major powers, or I should say power, now that the UK has left
Russia can steamroll everything upto Germany and France wouldn't do anything because as far as their own security is concerned, they know that the Russians can't touch them because of nuclear deterrence.
Americans on the other hand don't face this problem because maintaining their hegemony is top priority for them, so you can count on them to jump into the fight if things go wrong
Jacob Cruz
Poland doesn't want to be commie cucks again...
Noah Morales
There is nothing more manly than for the love of war.
Mason Hall
Bundeswehr is a joke anyway, none german traditions
Samuel Nelson
Slavs are EXTREME nationalists. They fucking started WW1 over their dumb nationalistic goals. They're so nationalistic that they continue to divide themselves into sub divisions of slav, declare that to be their nation and then that nation keeps subdividing itself into cultures too. That area had really slow transport and cultural migration for most of history, and nationalism (which requires unity of culture in a large area) hit it before technology standardised the culture in the region. The result being that there are a thousand different cultures in the region all wanting their own little nation, so they all hate each other, they all hate everyone else, and they're all willing to fight for it.
Fucking disaster.
Ryder Young
Estonia is based as fuck don't knock it.
I appreciate Estonia a lot.
Luis Nguyen
never lost a war faggot
John Flores
>region all wanting their own little nation, so they all hate each other, they all hate everyone else, and they're all willing to fight for it.
while you bend over and hike your skirts for millions of mudslimes. Who is the disaster here ?
Julian Perry
> army of refugees Fuck it all makes sense now
Joshua Morales
Amusing from someone who takes it up the ass from Pootin and his mongoloids 24/7
Samuel Brooks
>fucking Greece and Estonia manage to pay >actual wealthy countries dont
fucking bastards
Jordan Richardson
Underrated bantz from down undah
Jack Scott
Annexation by Russia soon, Stalker.
Alexander Cox
Wish Russia would just annex all of Ukraine
Adam White
>fucking BANKRUPT >still pays its due
Great fucking job for you guys pulling your own god damn weight. At the end of the day, regardless of your actual country's worth, can say that you fulfill your end of a deal and keep your promises.
Then theres the rest of you faggots.
James Jenkins
Sounds like you want to go back to the People's Republic of Czechoslovakia
Xavier Robinson
>Spend 10% GDP on EU army >Half of the army are women, 10 % fags, 5% trans, 20% refugees (diversity quotas) >Combat training is prohibited because it is not inclusive >Fighting invading army is racist
Charles Roberts
don't forget >Mandatory timecards for annual training
Ryder Howard
>implying it's not a cheap-ass deal for us to just pay more for americans to pull 99% of the work. See
Jacob Cox
Norfag here
I've literally met Stoltenberg.
Won't tell you the details here, but:
1) He's EXTREMELY SPINELESS
2) He's EXTREMELY OPPORTUNIST
He tells people what they want to hear, and looks for any opportunities to advance himself.
Brandon White
>The rest of you NATO fucks should be ashamed.
Oh, believe me, I am. Current secretary general of Nato is our previous PM, and he's even saying the same thing about the 2%. Obama and his staff also brought it up several times. But as usual, if Trump says it, everyone fakes outrage.