How come it is right to just pass billions of dollars to your children along with great education and career opportunities while the lower classes can only give them single parenthood and beatdowns?
I'm not a communist. I'm just saying that society will always suffer from massive economic inequality because of inheritances. The riches of a wealthy man shouldn't serve only his children, but also the children of the less fortunate (like me) so we can change our condition and make the country wealthier.
Does Sup Forums agree with me that all wealth should redistributed when one dies?
>muh meritocracy
There is no meritocracy when some slum rat has to compete toe-on-toe with a highly educated millionaire who had all opportunity when growing up.
no one's stopping him from selling me drugs. I'll even pay more because I can afford it and he knows I'm not street smart enough to question him on it.
Carter Anderson
Agreed, clearly only the rich should be allowed to have kids.
Ian Harris
No, no, no
That's not my point at all.
My point is that the rich should give their wealth to the children of the poor so their opportunities to raise in life are larger.
Elijah Nguyen
Because it's the parents asset. Just because most is in cash or stocks is irrelevant. If I just bought a billion dollars in "stuff" and kept it in my basement are you saying it should be confiscated when I die? What if it was all in jewelry I already gave to my kids?
Christian Gray
>What if it was all in jewelry I already gave to my kids? you got taxed on the purchase
Parker Campbell
is this a picture of the huehue monkey king?
Benjamin Reyes
>giving resources to help other people's offspring That sounds like cuck talk to me brnon.
Jace Flores
>Does Sup Forums agree with me that all wealth should redistributed when one dies? No, it's the parents money and they should choose what to do with it
Ethan Evans
>rich should give their wealth to the children of the poor
A lot of them already do. There are literally billions in charity programs available. Why should the government decide how much and where the money goes?
Ryan Campbell
Part of the incentive to get rich is to provide your kids with a better life. What's the point of running a successful family business if it's just gonna get appropriated when you die?
Evan Rivera
Well let's assume that YOU had spent your entire life working up a vast fortune would you let it go to bloodsucking parasites you've never even met or would you let it go to your immediate family? Some things really are just common sense user.
Camden Lopez
Only state income taxes. In my state that's 6%. No federal taxes would be paid during the putchase.
Mason Harris
It's my money i can do whatever the fuck i want with it.
Mason Taylor
commies die first you faggot. watch this if you actually want to learn something from this thread.
Rich people should be taxed based on the amount of kids they have. Having billions of dollars and 2 kids is absurd, it hurts the economy.
Ian Hernandez
if you dispute somoene's private property being wrongful you are welcome to prove it in court of law and seek restitution if above is not the case you have no claim over it, period
Carter Watson
You should be taxed, having 2 flags is absurd, it hurts the memeconomy.
Samuel Baker
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Julian Wright
ITT: everybody ignores OP's actual point. Take college for instance. Who gets into college? The most qualified students? Nope, it depends on how much money your parents have. Never mind who this is or isn't fair to, it's about building a better society.
Nathaniel Collins
RARE flag
Noah Kelly
I'm certain you pulled that straight out of a reputable peer-reviewed study you can thank your forefathers for buying into the communist totalitarian meme for your poverty, then yourself
Andrew Peterson
The financial world will collapse because banks deal in binary and not currency
>income taxes Wouldn't that be a sales tax? The point is that you still got taxed for it. And because it isn't in a bank, you're not getting free money.
we have a bad ass earning 1100e/month here
Robert Baker
College is a meme.
Daniel Young
>I'm not a communist. I'm just saying that society will always suffer from massive economic inequality because of inheritances. You retard. Inheritance - by will or through intestacy - exists because it is in the interest of the state that property be used. The government does not want property to rot unused because its owner was kill.
Daniel Cox
Bad analogy. It's piss easy to get into college, especially if you're smart and go to a state school. They're also not as expensive.
Tyler Morales
there is no meritocracy inheritance, it is inefficient use of capital. the whole point of property rights is that only you have ownership on your inputs
Aiden Perry
Rich people: I want more money Niggers: I want more kids
BAM. White genocide!
Easton Myers
how much do you feel entitled to? I know people earning 900 just like people earning 6k monthly, guess what's the difference between them there's loads of inheritance here as well, the vast majority of housholds is privately owned, unlike elsewhere protip: you don't have to spend it all every month, saving and living a frugal life are not memes
Elijah King
>wealth should redistributed never
Inequality is a meme and literally means nothing. Economic growth is also a worthless concept.
Quality of life is all that matters.
Connor Kelly
It depends. If you already have the money in cash or a checking/savings account, you don't get taxed when you withdraw it, you only get taxed annually on the interest the money earned which is nothing these days.
If you have it in stocks or bonds you only pay once you sell the stock. If you've held the stock for over a year that's 15%.
Lucas Cruz
no niggers here because no mechanism to exploit the taxpayer; child tax deductions come out of income tax and one has to work in order to take advantage of those
if countries would discriminate against aliens with regard to gibs and even physical access, they'd solve 99% of such problems this is coming soon I hope
Ryan Young
No, just flip the situation around. When you die, why should all the work, time and effort you've put into your own and your familys wealth suddenly benefit the children of someone else rather than your own?
Why should you be allowed to steal my money, assets, wealth, etc for your children to have instead of mine? When I was the one who worked for it/achieved it?
Josiah Morris
btw low birth rates are due to decline of partiarchical nuclear family and women being forced to work in order to survive there are other factors as well such as kike central banking and state monopolies chipping away at people's wealth
Ryder Perez
You're all cucks to the upper class.
Oliver Clark
>how much do you feel entitled to? Entitled to what? I just can't stand the sight of cunts like Paris Hilton. If the government takes 20% of your billion you're left with 800 million. The only good thing is that she was such a cunt that her grand daddy decided to not leave them 4 billion in real estate. And that brain-dead bitch has a net worth of 100 million anyway, because she's famous.
>you don't have to spend it all every month, saving and living a frugal life are not memes I make 1200e/month, it's not even enough money to fucking move out
Jaxson Sanders
>what is income tax
Dylan Cox
I am the upperclass.
Nice retort by the way.
Christopher Sanders
Why would the money someone owns be given to the state? That doesn't make any sense.
Christian Martinez
>what is this dutch guy bringing up an irrelevant point when it comes down to inheritance tax
John Clark
>uhhhhhhh why aren't you giving away your stuff when you die? Because it's never been that way, marxist gigacuck. Why not leave it up to the children if they want to give their parents hard-earned stash away?
Easton Bell
but you're talking about something that's already been taxed, at first it was gov't ponzi schemes+income tax, then capital gains or dividends tax, then VAT or sales tax when consumed; property tax is being collected on real estate assets, road tax and fuel levies for vehicles and so on how would you call your proposed tax? I bet it'd sound something romantic like Robin Hood tax
you don't get to move out until you've proven yourself capable of doing so, be it through budgeting or accumulating for a downpayment; this means to climb the ladder and make more or wait for your parents to croak and take over the home in case you haven't realised there's cheap real estate wherever you look as long as it isn't Ljubljana
better dead than red, why don't you vote for your incumbant communists some more who can't pay your police forces what they deserve yet can spend a shitload on failed PR stunt called olympics
Brandon Jenkins
That what I'm saying the whole time. If we tax people based on their offspring, than it would be easier for white families to have kids. It's not a new idea, in countries like Austria and Germany you are taxed based on your marital status and number of kids you have.
Liam White
Why are you shitting out children if you have nothing to leave them but poverty and misery?
James Richardson
The rich should invest in businesses and job opportunities, not handouts. The more available the jobs are, the less overall poverty will be around.
Levi Butler
I hope the police shoot both of you
Jose Mitchell
This.
David Barnes
good question. Women are more fertile when they live in poverty. Because there are not enough resources to bear offspring, women compensate by quantity. Some fish species dump huge amounts of eggs when attacked or in danger. It's a natural thing. So as long as niggers are poor, they will keep having a shit ton of kids.
Levi Lee
>muh handouts
Thomas Howard
>I bet it'd sound something romantic like Robin Hood tax No, it's called an inheritance tax you fucking retard, or even an estate tax or a death tax.
>there's cheap real estate wherever you look as long as it isn't Ljubljana yeah I'm gonna drive like a retard and live with hillbillies, I have a better idea, I'll move abroad and you can stay here working for pennies and paying for the salaries of our incompetent politicians and to house gypsies
Cooper Bennett
>its wrong to fully support your own kids with the wealth you accumulated over your life >its wrong to want the best for your children fuck off
if you want to give your children a good future and higher status, you have to achieve that before having them, forcing parents to spread their wealth to other families encourages complacency and not doing the best for your own children
Brandon Miller
all that future inheritance bucks was taxed initially when earned.. that inheritance money shouldn't be taxed twice..
Jack Torres
>you are greedy for keeping your own money >I am generous for wanting to take it from you
Gavin Barnes
Because when your family has owned the land you live on for hundreds of years i would be damned if i just gave it way.
Brazil niggers will never understand such a thing as heritage.
Like knowing that on my property there is a viking grave that i am not allowed to thuch because it has yet to be opened
Like knowing that your grandfather found a sword in the ground plowing the fields and that he who owned that sword was your forefather and the owner if this land before you.
Eli Hernandez
I am happy with my income and wealth currently. If someone is making more money than me I don't get all autistic and talk about rolling tanks down main street.
Educate yourself and think about things for a second before supporting communism. Keep your hands off my natural rights.
Caleb Mitchell
because it's your property and you can give it to whoever you want
the funny thing about retarded socialists who get butthurt about incoherence is if there was no inheritance the rich could still give their children a huge advantage in life by paying to have them get the best education and put them in contact with all their powerful friends so they can keep their privileged lifestyle after they die
meanwhile guess what happens to poor people without inheritance? their parents strive all their life to provide for their children and then that's all gone when they die and their kids starve are back to square one kek
inequality doesnt mean you have a bad life at the bottom, it just makes your stupid monkey brain (not an insult to brazilians but humans in general) think that person must have stolen from you if they have way more than they need and you'll starve to death since that was true for 99.9999% of human history when we lived in hunter gatherer tribes
but we live in a world where someone can have literally a million times the resources than you and you can still have a great life and yourself have a thousand times the resources than someone who is actually starving (which only still happens in socialist countries lmao)
Charles Sanchez
>estate tax or a death tax no such tax in our cunt even if it were, it would be evaded through gifting which is tax free for the immediate family, or using some other vehicle such as a holding company, for instance
>drive...live with hillbillies those hillbillies as you call them live the life you may only dream of as for driving, our cunt is among the rare few that provides the option of being paid for transport to work, goes straight into company expenses and is tax free for you anyway, in case you ever decide to leave, good riddance
Jason Flores
FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME,
I'm not a communist.
Is calling me a communist Sup Forums's only argument?
You'd rather have perfectly capable children grow up without proper education opportunities while a few rich kids prosper and produce shit to society because they had rich parents?
You think Einstein would have gotten anywhere in life if his father was a christian coal miner in some mine in the UK?
Brody Rodriguez
Die commie scum
Angel Martin
Communist
Nathaniel Hughes
You'd rather have perfectly capable children grow up under communism and achieve nothing?
Nicholas Jenkins
Enjoy your degenerate dumb societies, then.
I'm not surprised the USA is so far behind Europe in science.
Connor Ramirez
enjoy paying for TEŠ6
Jayden Lee
I AM NOT A COMMUNIST, FFS
I JUST WANT POOR KIDS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO PRODUCE MORE SHECKELS FOR SOCIETY IN GENERAL
HOW IS THAT COMMUNISM?
Isaac Lee
>I'm no communist >But here's why we need communism Fuck off commie scum. If I want to pass of the fruits of my labor to my children so they can have a better life than i did, then I'm gonna do so.
Owen Anderson
>>gibs me dat Your existance entitles you to absolutely nothing. If you're upset about your situation, seek to change it, don't envy the rich and try to take what's theirs. Don't hate your parents for not being more. Be more yourself and make sure your kids grow up how you would of liked to
The major problem with stealing from rich and giving to poor is incentive. If the rich work their way up, they decide what to do with their wealth. Give to their kids? Okay, give to their government? Okay, give to their fellow countrymen? Okay
If you're poor and achieve a system where the rich are forced to give their wealth to your kids, you have zero incentive to ever move past your poor circumstances. You shit out 20 kids and know it doesn't matter, because someone else is footing the bill
Gavin Martin
because you're stealing money from hard workers to feed subhumans
Jeremiah Reed
I can only share my own experience. My family is modern traditionalist. This means a few things
Males in my family receive guns and ammo upon marriage. Our women receive their own dowry chests upon marriage. Married men will add to the chest every year mostly on their anniversary. Each man keeps a journal of life wisdom for his sons, daughters and anyone else in the family deemed important enough.
I could go on but really it depends on the person.
Nolan Baker
kill yourself you literal nigger
Elijah Phillips
You're proposing taking from those who worked to build their wealth and giving it to people who didnt.
Eli Walker
>hard workers >inheritance
Adam Smith
I'd add that the system in which the rich are forced to give to the poor isn't desirable. A system in which the poor can work their way up to ladder is desirable. A system which empowers the people to do better. Reduce barriers standing in the way of small businesses starting up, this is how you will achieve what you desire. I've looked into the regulatory laws of European countries and I can see why they have even poorer start up options than the USA. So much risk in starting a business, change this and merit will be rewarded with success
Owen Taylor
It's not their fault your parents didn't do shit with their lives, nor do they owe it to you to probvide for you.
This Marxist mentality is what has the world all fucked up. Too many believe that others have shit therefore they're owed that shit for not haivng it.
Get off of your ass and accomplish something so your kids have something instead of making fucking excuses for why you think others owe you.
Levi Evans
But then that makes their own children poor and lacking in career opportunities, which would force the rich parents to send the money back to their kids.
Jason Gonzalez
>advocating redistribution of wealth EVEN more than it already is where 47% don't pay any federal income tax >Not a communist
pick one OP
Nicholas Cox
OP you ARE a communist.
Isaiah Flores
keep dreaming laddie, there are multiple ways to minimize one's exposure to the FURS jew and other institutional kikes hope you don't overdose on your non-arguments and self-loathing as you pay rent for your prized urban life but in case you decide to emigrate, have fun knowing you'll be nothing but a cheap alien in an alien land, no place like home
Sebastian Robinson
Well u see, some people care more about their children than random people they don't know. And when u work really hard for someone, you kind of have a right to decide what's done with it.
Jace Torres
that's not really the point, since these kind of billionaires certainly will not compete with you in a job interview.
don't let Sup Forums fool you with fear of someone taking away the few things you got. We're talking rich people here, spending in one night what you don't earn in a year. People that have way more than they need. Of course they should pay more taxes.
Christian Wright
You are assuming the government will do a better job allocating wealth to individuals who will utilize it than rich people who already donate to charities.
Julian Mitchell
>But then that makes their own children poor >die >leave a million >get taxed >HOW WILL MY KIDS LIVE WITH 950kk
>he doesn't even know about the plan to cover the TEŠ6 disaster
>have fun knowing you'll be nothing but a cheap alien in an alien land, no place like home I'll have a hard time earning more than the average worker, it's going to be very sad
Cameron Green
>Of course they should pay more taxes. And what's to stop those people from relocating themselves and their assets to a country with lower taxes?
Tyler Walker
OP said that he wanted rich people to give up ALL their money to poor people. As in, your example would be >Die >Have your fortune and company redistributed to Jamal and Friends >Kids die destitute >Jamal and friends spend the money on grape drank and friend chicken The only people who win in OP's scenario is KFC.
Grayson Howard
Life is not fair, deal with it. But if you work hard, not you, but your kid will be better off, and if they work hard too... in a few generations your DNA will have a lot more of possibilities in life. But not you.
Mason Jones
>How dare people want to pass on their hard earned money to their children Don't allow the coxinhas to let you down OP It's not like your train of thought is egotistical and you think other people owe you things
Nicholas Ross
>having kids
Luckily me and my bf can't have them.
Michael Young
It's life's purpose to secure the existence of it's own genes.
I'm poor. And i work hard for me and my kids first and foremost. Remove my goal and i won't work as hard.
William Johnson
dont't worry about me, I got my taxes as low as humanely possible and look forward to eventual welfare state's demise I'm just saying it's hard dropping anchor anywhere that isn't home, I've experienced that already and came home, however I'm past that uber-materialistic phase anyway
Jackson Diaz
>And what's to stop those people from relocating themselves and their assets to a country with lower taxes? so why haven't they earned millions as a CEO in Albania in the first place?
He never said that
Jose Ward
>1. Abolition of Property in Land and Application of all Rents of Land to Public Purpose.
>2. A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax.
>*3. Abolition of All Rights of Inheritance.
>4. Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels.
>5. Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly.
>6. Centralization of the Means of Communication and Transport in the Hands of the State.
>7. Extension of Factories and Instruments of Production Owned by the State, the Bringing Into Cultivation of Waste Lands, and the Improvement of the Soil Generally in Accordance with a Common Plan.
>8. Equal Liability of All to Labor. Establishment of Industrial Armies, Especially for Agriculture.
>9. Combination of Agriculture with Manufacturing Industries; Gradual Abolition of the Distinction Between Town and Country by a More Equable Distribution of the Population over the Country.
>10. Free Education for All Children in Public Schools. Abolition of Children's Factory Labor in it's Present Form. Combination of Education with Industrial Production.
We call you a communist because you literally are one, above are the 10 planks of communism, do they look appealing to you? Its not just an insult, we actually mean it when we call you a communist. You literally deserve to be thrown out a helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=f_5FkCs6n_A
Nicholas Cruz
Nothing, and that's why third world countries remain poor. They're blinded by desire for gibbs and don't realize how punishing the successful will hurt them
if you did that then people would just give their wealth to their kids before they died
if you somehow banned that, they would go about doing it in a sneakier way
if you were able to somehow keep banning all that then people would just not save money - this isn't your goal
tldr: kill yourself third world sewer monkey
Joshua Lee
I almost certainly make more money than 99.9% of Sup Forums (and thus contribute more to society since my job's actually fucking useful rather than shitposting memes all day) and I can tell you with complete certainty that I would not do fucking anything if inheritance was banned. There would be no greater disincentive for working.
I mean, imagine that some retarded form of absolute socialism was achieved and every fucking week every single person's bank account was reset to the same amount of money as everyone else. Would you work? I wouldn't, I would just get drunk every day and receive my free money a week later to do it again.
If inheritance was banned then the same would be true on a slightly longer scale. Sure, I could pay for my children's college, but I could do that as a plumber, too. If they don't get to keep the additional margin above what they've used in my life time, then why would I create that margin? I'd just shitpost here half the time and work the bare minimum amount required to pay for shit.
tl;dr this
Ryder Foster
>so why haven't they earned millions as a CEO in Albania in the first place? It's almost as if there's more opportunity to make a fortune in developed nations
Xavier Russell
/thread
John James
this. lefties are either useful idiots or are cynical liars ( the politicians that push for it know it's bullshit) to not realize that taxing inheritance hurts middle class to lower middle class more than it helps anyone. It does not effect upper class/ruling class. It's just a way to give the state more power and control.
Giving up your family earned wealth at death for anyone not in the ruling elite leads to a society where the state controls your life.
Elijah Barnes
Inheritance tax is not a pre requisite for a good education. University is very affordable in Australia and hence social mobility.
Carter Cruz
by prohibiting parents from using their money for the benefit of their children you violate their rights to use their property. >b-but they're already dead and have no rights irrelevant, i could start a saving program for my son to give him all my money by the time i'm dead to achieve the same effect