What was life like before 9/11? Have internet/cell phones killed society...

What was life like before 9/11? Have internet/cell phones killed society? I might be mentally ill but i remember little bit from that era. People used to come to hang up with me and then internet and cellophones comes out and all the sudden your not allowed to meet with people and have a great time doing nothing. To me this was the time when everything collapsed.

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When I was a kid I remember playing outside with all the other neighborhood kids and being outside all day. Riding bikes, disappearing from the house until the sunset. Now I barely see any kids outside at all. They must be all playing video games or on their smart phones. What happened?

I didn't own a cellphone 'till about a year ago.
I always hated when I'd chill with my peeps but half of them were always staring down at their screen.

With that being said I've herd about people talking about how when kids didn't have cellphones all they would do was imagine how the next group of people would be having so mucheck fun and " If we could just find that other group of people having fun then we could have fun too"

So Idk. I was kinda born in a fucked up yr to discuss this.
'93

Alot of them do.
But remember, that kids all the way back into the 80's had vidya.

I had vidya when I was a kid but still managed to get outside no problem.

Vidya was more of a night time thing with friends growing up

90s were pretty based. We need to get out more like back then.

its only going to be worse, anxiety, depression, autism and fucking transsexualism is spiking. Society is literally dying

Before 9/11 I used to go to school, hang out with my friends and skateboard everywhere. But now, 15 years later, I don't go to school anymore, don't have any of the same friends and all I do is drive to and from work everyday, also I have kids and a wife. Fuck the Internet.

Remember the days when you knocked on your friends door to go play outside?

When CCTV have become a thing?

Anxiety & Depression has defiantly put a hiatus on my Generation.

Don't know wtf is causing it.

Like flopping around on the ground like a fish out of water type anxiety.
Shit is harsh man.

the 90s

>Don't know wtf is causing it.

You outsourced your brain's job to a smartphone.

Didn't have a cell phone till I was 14. Skateboarded and played basketball until dark every damn day. I doubt kids know how to ride a bike now. They probably just jack off to instagram whores and watch youtube. Terrible.

Here's a routine summers day in my childhood:

>wake up
>grabdafgdtgtmakeup
>but seriously, wake up
>eat nasty as fuck cereal and watch cartoons for 1-2 hours tops
>go outside and join whoever is already playing out, failing that start knocking on doors and get people out
>we explore a derelict building, play on the traintracks, explore the woods brandishing big sticks and climbing trees, hide n seek or chasing people with dog shit on a stick, soccer, fighting, throwing stones at kids we didn't like and having a stone war, chilling out on a high perch suckin on ice poles, dropping red ants into black ants nest, bug fights, harassing peoples dogs and running for dear life, putting items on the rail track/road and watching them explode, the list is endless
>break for dinner and stuff as and when necessary, or for cucks: when your mother screams your name out the window
>when the group dies off/splits towards the evening, go play some video games at whoevers house that has the video game we want to play
>chill out til sunset doing more inane shit, winding down
>the cucks go home
>play around til the evening does and home, bit of golden era BBC2 and then bed

Today

>wake up
>ipleb
>breakfast
>ipleb
>ipleb
>ipleb

Kids can't even walk to school anymore, let alone just play outside.

Even leftist just drive their kids from one club to another, neighborhoods are basically dead.

Here's something to put in perspective, growing up there were few scifi books in my area, so I was part of a book club (like columbia records) that delivered books. And I had to pick them just by the blurbs. Now it's YA trash everywhere.

ITT Grumpy old men

Back before social media sites ruined the internet it wasn't so bad. Now everyone and their mama has a smartphone posting on facebook or something. I'd give up 12mbps downstream for society to return to its former state in a heartbeat. Maybe all the warnings about technology being the undoing of man weren't referring to any kind of military equipment or weapons. Maybe it was about how technology will change our societies and cultures in a negative way.

Dissatisfaction and the realization/redpill that (most) of us are debt slaves, so what's the point of it all? Also, social media has caused vapidity to rise in exponential qualities, causing a "CONFORM OR DIE (socially)" which causes more anxiety.

>15 years later I don't go to school and I have a family
>Fuck the internet

What?

Sounds about right. I think the main reason I come here is for the "chat room" feel of it, strangers and relatively quick discussion that I may partake in at my leisure. I wish chat rooms weren't dead.

We can only wait and see what a world run by people raised by their parents smartphone is like.

the turn of the millennium was the ideal amount of technology

I blame the jews

independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/millenials-generation-x-baby-boomers-a7570326.html

I agree

Yea, but even I have that kind of anxiety .
And if you read my earlier comment you'll see I didn't own one till about a year ago.

So that can't be the soul reason as to why.
At least for me anyways.

That definitely is a part of the depression.
But I belive humans are resiliant asf to that kind of shit.

I really do believe that 'there's something in the water'.
If your pickin up what I'm putting down.

nice thread polish bro. the more time passes, the more I realize 9/11 was a huge turning point in the history of humanity. Things really changed after that, and it's only since recently that we, the generation grew in the midst of the transition, are starting to see it.

People in general grew more paranoid, "security" has become our main focus, even when that means shielding ourselves, and our kids, from life's experiences. I don't believe that today's kids are polluted or conditioned by videogames and the internet, as much as we weren't by tv. They are the product of the parents who raised them. The same parents that wouldn't let them outside and would rather have them inside the house (only then blaming "the iPad" for the lack of socialization of their kids).

god im tired of this bs i guess its in every country... No u faggot there are plenty of kids outside there were always those who didnt play sports and liked comics (vidya today) or shit like that... God i hate this MUH GENERATION WAS BETTER XDDDD WE PLAYED OUTSIDE NOW ALL PLAY GAMES AND DONT GO OUTSIDE OF HOUSE XDDD

conformity play certainly a role, but I think it stems from our excessive focus on safety and security, nobody doesn't want to *appear different or out of the norm as not to scare other people.

Much better. Even shortly after 9/11 it wasn't as bad. I think around 2003 was the definite fall of traditional society.

When I was a kid the rule was to be home when the street lights come on. Lived in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere.

Nowadays there's more concern for pedos and kidnappers and twisted people going about messing with kids.

I think a lot of it also has to do with both men and women working, there's no one home at all times to watch their kids.

Typically these days kids are not allowed to leave the block. When I was a kid I'd be 5 years old and walk alone to the park to play baseball. When the street lights came on we'd leave for home or get to a friend's house and call our parents from their land line phone and ask if we can stay the night.

A lot of it has to do with smartphones and the internet. I don't see it necessarily as a fall in society, just a dramatic change.

When I was a kid a baseball, football etc. was a toy and we'd play all day. There wasn't anything better to do. I have a hard time believing that unless the children are directly involved in some kind of sport that they'll willingly be outside all day playing.

I don't agree with some of your statement based on my own tangible experience.

I was raised to work hard.
Example:
My summer holidays consisted of
-Throwing bales by hand onto a gooseneck.
-wrastling the cattle.
-etc etc all of that manly shit.

Yet still today I'm riddled with all of the general problems of this generation.

During the 80s there was this kidnapping thing that the media blew up to such a proportion some kids weren't allowed off their own street for fear of being grabbed and jammed into this imaginarily omnipresent child sex trafficking ring. And then there is "vidya"/cellphones/internet bla bla bla.

>meet with people and have a great time doing nothing

Hey, that's true, isn't it. My favorite memories are basically just sitting around with people. Now I haven't hung out with a friend in years.

There was closed circuit shit going on in the 80s. Post 911 it is out of control. Isn't the single most surveilled city in the world, London?

one camera for each paki

This. It was the right mixture of actual activity and tech.

>sneak Gameboy to school to trade
>get hyped for Saturday morning cartoons
>mfw i discovered 'delete history'

This is essentially it in canuckistan as well. I'd add there was *maybe* one slightly chubby kid in the group who was mocked as the local fattie. By today's standards, he'd be slim.

Have kids of my own - it's fucking depressing how much more limited their childhood is compared to mine, regardless of my attempts to kick their arses out in the snow to find something to do. Just pure fucking ipleb, day in, day out for every damned kid out there these days.

The awesome future of the year 2000+ we dreamed of in the 80s was absolutely corporatized, bastardized, and stolen from us.

People need to fucking burn for this monstrosity they've created.

youtu.be/fT4lDU-QLUY

today there are many kids who cant even ride a bike or climb a tree/wall

fat, lazy, internet junkies

>imaginaty

>imaginary

I really did mean imaginarily, as in it's omnipresence was imaginary... so, imaginarily omnipresent. I like to make up words. Hope that helps.

>we explore a derelict building, play on the traintracks, explore the woods brandishing big sticks and climbing trees, hide n seek or chasing people with dog shit on a stick, soccer, fighting, throwing stones at kids we didn't like and having a stone war, chilling out on a high perch suckin on ice poles, dropping red ants into black ants nest, bug fights, harassing peoples dogs and running for dear life, putting items on the rail track/road and watching them explode, the list is endless

Right in the feels man, I remember doing all sort of dumb stuff like that as a kid. I was crazy fun, no fucks given. People were expecting kids to do dumb things. Nowadays if a young guy calls someone a nigger or set something on fire he's bound to be expelled from school because of hate speech or terrorism lmao. Everything is such a big deal nowadays. I don't think that people will ever experience again what it meant to not be connected. without cellphones we could do whatever we wanted to in the woods, nobody ever knew about it (no homo I swear).

I was born in 88 and I really miss the not so old days.

>Nowadays if a young guy calls someone a nigger or set something on fire he's bound to be expelled from school because of hate speech or terrorism

Yep - remember getting black jawbreakers and black liquorice kids for a penny each at the local corner store.

"I'll have 10 niggerballs and 10 niggerbabies, please."

Do shit like that today, they'd fucking taze you and hang you in the town square.

The 80's is when the kikes started getting more open about their child sacrifice rituals.

The majority of it is self diagnosed from privileged millennials who haven't had to deal with the hardships of life the way everyone else has. What they call "depression" and "anxiety" is actually just the human condition. The same thing can be said about blacks and their constant crying of racism.

Apart from the usual out riding bikes through streams and making prank calls from telephone boxes...

>you and three freinds drinking booze we got from one that looked old enough to be served
>Gathered around a big TV with an N64 playing GoldenEye and Mario Kart all night
>6 million times better feeling than online gaming

Also plenty of shops in the high street too.

I'm about to get a nokia 215 and get rid of my smartphone. I just moved to Seattle and people are so rude with their cell phones. I want to hang out with someone, I toss my phone in my backpack until after we've parted. Every single person I've been meeting has had their eyes glued to their phones. It's really disrespectful and it's something that may be a danger to society in the future.

Nobody builds deep meaningful relationships anymore. When I look at my grandmother and all of her friends she's had for 50 years without the internet, that's deep meaningful relationships. They're great friends and none of them even really have or had the same interests, people just found a way to make things work.

>Born in 88
Nice

That sounds like my youth...just add magic mushrooms into the mix and your there.

Did you ever phone Deutche Telecom from the phone boxes? We used to do it all the time stoned for the keks

Humans can't deal with the unlimited and constant stimulation of the internet. I've got young cousins and both boy and girl spend hours on end on fucking youtube, if you (auntie) try and take the iPad away they become completely inconsolable because they are craving those little hits of dopamine

Same reason that, ADMIT IT, you're on pol nearly every single day. Go on and F5 (or cmd+r if you have a disposable income) the catalog, feels good dunnit

Digits confirm

I'm old
>1970's: half the houses had a stay at home mom in them and all the moms knew one another
>Kids would leave in the morning on Summer days and play all over until the streetlights came on.
>Lunch and you're hungry? The closest moms would give you cookies and kool-aid or something
1980's I was older
>TV was CBS, NBC, ABC and the independent station from wherever. There was one newspaper unless you were in a big city - then there were 2. Some people got Time or Newsweek
>If the news wasn't on the TV news, the paper, or a magazine you got, you never knew it. Venezuela attacked Chile? 1 paragraph on page 3 of section C. Want to know more about it? Wait a week, go to the library, look at their out of town newspapers, see if they had more (they almost never did).
>No talk radio at the beginning - everything everywhere was 4-5 liberal outlets, the end
>Press would start panics to drive sales. Dungeons & Dragons? Satanic. Day Care? Satanic. It was crazy; people went to jail because a reporter said someone said they were in a cult. No, they *went to fucking jail*, for real, based on bullshit reporters and the testimony of 6 year olds who were coached for 4 months.
1990's
>Tech was just starting, but it was an exclusive club. I remember when Yahoo! started there were so few pages on the world wide web a guy was keeping track of *each and every one of them*. Manually.
>Until The internet got big in the very late 1990's the only way to get phone number was to look them up in the white or yellow pages. Can't find them? Well, hope you know what town their number is in, call directory assistance, and try to get the number. The call to directory assistance cost (inflation adjusted) $15 whether or not you got the number
>Want to call someone more than 15-25 miles away? That's log distance, you pay extra per minute. When I was in California and called my mom to tell her I was OK the 2 minute call cost $5. In 1992. That's $9, now
more

I understand and agree with your 'human condition' analysis to a certain degree.

I've seen people of my Gen over-exaggerate thier mental illnesses so far that it's cringe worthy.
"Oh my bf broke up with me"
Depression.
"Oh it's scary talking to a crowd"
Anxiety

But I really don't think things like 'derealization-anxiety' fall into that catagory.
I mean that shit feels like a rrrrreeal bad acid trip. And it comes daily.
If everyone felt that way everyday our civilization would collapse.

The biggest difference is flat-out access to information. When I was a kid a small handful of companies effectively controlled access to news.
And while people stare at their screen, a lot more people read stuff, now

Faggot. Games nowadays are 100x better than those crappy pixel screens
>inb4 old man talking

I was born in 89. All your "hurrr back in the day internet was better" is just pure reddit tier faggotry
Back in the day everyone expected better and more stuff from technologies. And those old techs suck ass

Everyone enjoyed it because that's all we had. Not because MUH NOSTALGIA

Whoever don't like current day technology can fuck back right off to third world African country and live with your dreams

I do BJJ. It's great. No fucking phones, just a lot of people who wrestles with each other for 95 minutes and then we all goes and eat lunch together.

My point is that you have to get out and find activities that doesn't involve "gaming" or stuff where you actually can pick up that fucking phone all the time.

>All your "hurrr back in the day internet was better" is just pure reddit tier faggotry
Yes and no.

It was slower, shittier, porn took fucking forever to download, and there it sure as fuck wasn't user friendly.

However, there was much freer transfer of information, and you could speak your mind without fear of repercussion.

Nowadays, attach your name to the slightest whiff of racism/sexism/*ism on fb, twitter, or anywhere else and see what happens...

>Serbia

Gaming since 00s is just recycling old ideas.

And internet was not "better", it was just less cancerous. If you enjoy modern day degeneracy, it's your business, but you won't find much understanding here.

I didn't know children could get so triggered. Sad.

I remember watching a friend get visited by the police in 1993.
Why?
There was an anti-catholic web page he posted a comment on saying something like 'the Pope is not in league with the devil'.
The webpage complained to the ISP;
The ISP passed on his IP and other data;
They reported him to the police for harassment and 'hacking';
$1,000 in court costs later he had no criminal record, but 2 ISPs had barred him for life for 'harassing people'.
So.... no, the old internet was not "more free"

>openly discuss killing all niggers
>trade loli porn
>hacked elections and get a madman president
>durrrrr we lost freedom online!!!!

Maybe in the 90s personal info wasn't valuable and internet seemed geeky so no one gave a shit about who the person was online. Plus only rich quite people could afford computers you don't expect a nigger behind the screen scaming you

Cheap primitive vidya

YOU DIDNT HAVE A CELLPHONE TILL 2016? What are you, a literal caveman?

Yes nice reasoning and clearly DID NOT FUCKING READ

I was born just before 90s and remembered my childhood was pretty decent. People complained also back in the day. And everyone just could t even wait to see technologies advancing

not all of us lived in a police state. Sorry about your country...it was cool there for a while.

That's a point. If people had known from the start what mass data collection really looked like maybe we wouldn't have gone down this path so readily... it's weird my mum is super paranoid about Facebook and doesn't even use her real name but she still posts constantly! I'm sure her spending habits are very well profiled indeed

>implying there's anything wrong with recycling ideas

When me and my friends played those console games and sega whatever the good idea games.
Fuck we just wanted those cool games to be more 3D and more realistic

Comparing to shoot a pixel gun we wanted something like Counter strike or other better games. Now we have them we're much happier.

You're just whining

They don't even play Vidya anymore. They sit on the couch and watch other people play Vidya in their smart phones.

No more mountain dew fueled all night local multiplayer.

This. I was born in the 80's and spent my first 15 years outside. Paranoid parents were already a thing back then though, and it seems to have only been getting worse. Now instead of overprotective parents forcing their kids to stay inside, they just buy them a computer and video games and the kid never leaves the house again.

Sad.

Naw man.
I just could see what they did to people.
And I didn't wanna be that kind of person.

Now I need a cell for work related stuff.
>muh jerb

My family had a computer since 1990 and we were never rich.
It was required for some jobs back then.

you mean you have never experienced the joys of shitposting on the go?? boy you are in for a treat

When i was a kid i was outside constantly. Now i bitch over internet how today kids are idiots because they are on internet constantly.

Snacks were better. The main allergy was against peanuts, kids weren't such frail pussies who would die if they walked near gluten. Fast food express stands were literally inside of high schools, and you wouldn't be expelled for life and visited by the FBI if you drew a gun in the back of your textbook.

You had to fight for your porn.

Not till recently.But I've got to say
It's pree decent

Or find it in the woods.

And pay hard cash for it

I'm a crack addict so I don't have much memory of before 9/11 even though I was born in 1970. All I remember is I did a stint in jail from 1997-2000. Last time I saw my son was 1996 (ex hasn't let me seen him since)

Used to go finding it in forests with my friends. No idea why there was so much woods porn

Went to school during the first migrant crisis in Germany during the yugoslavia war. Didn't understand shit about those new kids in class, they didn't speak german so nobody played them.
Parents forbid to go the usual way to school because of asylanten, how we called them back in the days.
The asylum housing burned down one day and we kids cheered.
The 90ies everybody was racist as fuck in Germany
Great times

At least they were white

>not all of us lived in a police state
How many Canadians have been convicted of hate speech for arguing with lesbians?
Or how about that comedian that was fined for hurting the feelings of a dyke?

Too many shitskins trying to kill kids for bikes causes parents to keep them indoors.

Well this is the most unique post in this thread.

it's calhoun mice all the way down

born in 83.

Things were a lot different even not that long ago. As others mentioned most kids myself included would go outside and play, skateboard, play music, play sports, and other things. Hell some of my friends parents would lock us out of the house during the day. It was common for things like video games or tvs to be limited as well to evenings and only for 2 hours max.

The internet at first seemed great. It wasn't nearly what it is now, the same for online gaming.

It wasn't until recently around 05-10 that smart phones and high speed internet became the normal for about every single person. I remember seeing a cable modem at a friends house when I was 16ish or 17 and being amazed they could "surf the web" while still getting phone calls. I didn't even own a cellphone until I was 17. Now I see children with these fucking smartphones, fat old women driving down the road talking on them, assholes in the supermarket with a stupid fucking ear piece in having a loud obnoxious conversation.

I will never understand this social media crap either. It seems to have killed real friends in a lot of ways, I often ask people why they use it and they will respond to keep up with friends. Wtf is that? If they are your friends they would be hanging out with you or calling you to go out.

Society only continues to go down from here. The 90's really were a golden era to grow up in, now that I'm getting old and look back and compare it with today.

I wish we could all turn the clock back and destroy technology that is slowly making things worse, as well as turn back the massive influx of niggers, and sand niggers of the last 20 years.

Look at photos from malls in the 90's all white happy families and kids hanging out buying shit they dont need. Now go look at a mall today, street thugs, niggers, moslems, polluting these once glorious bastions of the white middle class.

In the 90s? none.

Not gonna lie. It was much better. USSR collapse in the late 80's brought a wave of joy and freedom throughout the world. Reagan did normal conservative stuff and the US went from recession and misery index to 30 year boom.

Video games were more fun to play. People didn't have smart phones; some had pagers.

Sports were more fun to watch.

Life was a lot simpler. Go to school, get good grades, mom and pop could afford to send you to college. Graduate, get good job, climb corporate ladder, get married, buy house, 2.1 kids, the whole nine yards.

9/11 changed all of that.

You can thank our fucking shadow government run by freemasons and other secret societies for that.

Fuck Albert Pike.

Basically yes.

Sad truth. I don't even care anymore. I'm on welfare and just do crack all day

Good for her. How many months you got left to live?

wtf
Balkans aren't white

Agree with everything you said except malls, fuck malls.

youre the kind of leech on society that should just kill themselves and not trouble us with your pitiful existence. Seriously you are a worthless piece of shit drain and the world would be better if you were dead.

>I remember playing outside with all the other neighborhood kids

It has nothing to do with smart phones or video games. It has more to do with people not having children. If you drove through an impoverished shitskin neighborhood on the weekend you would see loads of little niglets and spiclets running around the streets. The middle class whites are no longer having children, though.

It was sort of hard to play Mario for 6 hours even when you are 10 years old. Games nowadays are so immersive that children lose themselves in them. They don't seem like much to adults like us but Skyrim is the most amazing shit ever to a kid. My cousin in 13 with over 3000 hours in CSGO and 1000 in Skyrim. Its not healthy.

watch the first season of The West Wing

it's tragic how optimistic it is