Oh the enviro-tears.
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Trump just nuked the coal regulations
Nolan Edwards
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Jose Stewart
Hahaha, yeah, let's end the world, who gives a fuck? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jeremiah Morris
Ya because china doesn't do it, and it's totally ending the world. fuck off to your mongrel country.
Oliver Nguyen
Dude, I agree, who gives a fuck? It's not like we degenerates are ever gonna fuck, so we ain't having descendants. Let the world burn out lmao!
Jose Lopez
He does what he said he would do. THE MADMAN!
Kayden Richardson
You actually think the world will end because we're using coal. Your an idiot.
Matthew Ramirez
Bump
Logan Scott
>tfw Al Gore commits suicide
Alexander Baker
>CLEAN COAL
THE MADMAN HAS DONE IT AGAIN!!!!!!! >PRAISE KEK!
Justin Morales
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Jack Thompson
Benjamin Lopez
Right but they're not giving those jobs to poor ass people in the country who's entire towns rely on coal industry. Only silocon valley homos get those jobs.
Joshua Cruz
Coal is pretty fucking clean when we use modern technology but nuclear energy is still the better option.
Cooper Wilson
Duh. Obama gave tons of subsidies for solar energy because of California hipsters who all vote Democrat. It's pure politics.
Jose Reyes
True, but I'm still weary of nuclear, one fuck up in that industry and you have fuckishima or chernobyl.
Kayden Stewart
Exactly. If the government has to subsidize it that means it's inherently not working in the free market, therefore not working as well as other sources.
Carson Wood
>tfw we could have had nuclear power plants everywhere decades ago if it wasn't for John Kerry and that meddling nigger.
Cameron Richardson
Chernobyl was literally intentional stupidity to see how far they could go with a reactor. It could have easily been prevented if people were competent and took precautions like not doing it in a town with a high population.
And Fukushima was a 50 year old reactor that got hit by a 9.0 earthquake as well as a tsunami. The fallout wasn't even that bad, it was nothing compared to cherno.
Modern reactors are far safer as we have a far better understanding of them today as opposed to 50 years ago.
Ayden Brown
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Connor Martin
Fucking idiots can't tell the difference between getting rid of bullshit hippie EPA crap and literally handing solar companies a half billion dollars.
Holy fuck you people are stupid.
Sight picture, sight alignment.
Liam Smith
>Trump just nuked the coal regulations.
EPA pushback when?
Also: fully expect that Trump will have to go to war with the EPA to build the wall. Those old enough will remember how the EPA went to war with the Reagan administration.
Gavin Rivera
>And Fukushima was a 50 year old reactor that got hit by a 9.0 earthquake as well as a tsunami. The fallout wasn't even that bad, it was nothing compared to cherno.
>Modern reactors are far safer
Hold on there. You do know that we haven't built any new nuclear reactors in decades because Jimmy Carter banned construction of them in 1979.
Leo White
He appointed someone who hates the epa. Patience lad.
Jonathan Ramirez
The feeling of seeing OP's image in person is something I'll never forget.
Camden Thompson
My man fear is that muhhamed will one day decide to Allah akbar one of these places. What is the security like at these things? On top of that we now know 3 muslim brothers hacked congress. These fuckers can tap into almost anything now. Isis agents have been caught advocating on the disruption of nuclear plants before.
Carson Brown
In the US, yes. But the rest of the world does not abide by our laws.
But I did hear that we recently constructed one so there must be some ways people get around the ban. I hope Trump gets rid of it. Nuclear power is cleaner than solar and wind.
Samuel Williams
Zachary Hernandez
And based trump can veto that
Ayden Mitchell
Why are we trying to save a failing industry that has no reason to stay afloat?
Natural gas killed coal for a reason.
Kevin Thomas
I agree, the only thing better than China burning all the coal and giving all their people cancer and black lung is us doing it even more!
Make America impossible to see because of smog again! (MAIBSA)
Honestly I'm glad Trump is bringing the most deadly job in the world back to America.
Ayden Butler
I think instead of using existing infrastructure because it's so dirty and bad
We should mine, process, construct, and transport an entirely new industry. Because it's CLEAN.
How can you argue with logic? Coal = bad. Anything else = good. So let's get to mining, constructing, and hauling with our diesel powered equipment to make this whole thing right.
Adrian Reed
>Your an idiot
>Your
>Not you're
This is why Portugal is roasting us
Jack Russell
you save the jobs while you implement measures to make those workers and others in the same areas be able to be employed somewhere else, it's not that difficult to understand
Wyatt Bell
WV's economy is basically based on coal mining. I don't think any anti-coal regulation (or most for the matter) offer any tangible solutions for the people who would be affected by it.
The left will bitch about income inequality without actually offering means to help people on the bottom (other than suggesting everyone go to fast food and demand $15/hour for the same shitty service)
Eli Wilson
Let's mine the sun
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On March 13, 2013, Terry M. Dinan, senior advisor at the Congressional Budget Office, testified before the Subcommittee on Energy of the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology in the U.S. House of Representatives that federal energy tax subsidies would cost $16.4 billion that fiscal year, broken down as follows:
Renewable energy: $7.3 billion (45 percent)
Energy efficiency: $4.8 billion (29 percent)
Fossil fuels: $3.2 billion (20 percent)
Nuclear energy: $1.1 billion (7 percent)
A 2011 study by the consulting firm Management Information Services, Inc. (MISI)[28] estimated the total historical federal subsidies for various energy sources over the years 1950–2010. The study found that oil, natural gas, and coal received $369 billion, $121 billion, and $104 billion (2010 dollars), respectively, or 70% of total energy subsidies over that period. Oil, natural gas, and coal benefited most from percentage depletion allowances and other tax-based subsidies, but oil also benefited heavily from regulatory subsidies such as exemptions from price controls and higher-than-average rates of return allowed on oil pipelines. The MISI report found that non-hydro renewable energy (primarily wind and solar) benefited from $74 billion in federal subsidies, or 9% of the total, largely in the form of tax policy and direct federal expenditures on research and development (R&D). Nuclear power benefited from $73 billion in federal subsidies, 9% of the total, largely in the form of R&D, while hydro power received $90 billion in federal subsidies, 12% of the total.
Jack Jenkins
I've worked in the coal mines in Svalbard. I'm pretty sure that more people have died in those than in all the nuclear reactor disaster put together. My colleagues that were way older said they expected to lose a man or 2 each year. The chinese coal mines lose a dude each week.
Leo Bell
The good thing is it'll mostly be Trump voters dying from the contamination. They will cheer as they're poisoned. Natural Selection I guess.
Jordan Gutierrez
Renewable are critically dependent on federal money to compete in the same marketplace as sources that the government is actively working to suppress (coal, nuclear, etc.)
Alexander Lee
That's because chinas industries are run by the state you mook. They don't care about running people over with tanks you think they give a fuck about polluting their cities? The whole idea that we'd get like that is silly. We've been using coal in america for a century and it never got like that. Now all the suddenly it will?please
Nolan Walker
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As of 2012, nuclear power in Pakistan is provided by 4 commercial nuclear power plants.[1] Pakistan is the first Muslim country in the world to construct and operate civil nuclear power plants.[2] The Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC), the scientific and nuclear governmental agency, is solely responsible for operating these power plants.[3] As of 2012, the electricity generated by commercial nuclear power plants constitutes roughly ~3.6% of electricity generated in Pakistan, compared to ~62% from fossil fuel, ~33% from hydroelectric power and ~0.3% from coal electricity.[4][5] Pakistan is not a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty but is a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency.[6][7][8] Pakistan plans on constructing 32 nuclear power plants by 2050.[9]
Adrian Moore
I'm not a nuclear engineer or anything like that but I'm fairly sure it's not very easy to "hack" or blow up a reactor to cause a fallout. And even if they have the technical knowledge and tools to mess with a reactor the fallout would never be as bad as Chernobyl. Cherno was a lot more than just pushing the reactor's limits. The reactor was improperly built and lacked a proper bedrock foundation which could have prevented or lessened the severity of the accident. As long as nuclear reactors are properly built we should be able to prevent nuclear fallout even in the case of a terrorist attack.
David Lewis
>lose 1-2 miners per year
then there's less deaths than all nuclear disasters combined. Even more people die cutting tree branches ffs
Jordan Clark
can't we invest in nuclear already?
Noah Moore
Environmentalist here, I don't give a fuck because no single polluting industry being deregulated will actually be the difference between the collapse of earth's ecosystems and a sustainable society
Everything in society from the bottom up, from plastic wrapped individual portions of food, to fancy cars, to fresh fish in landlocked restaurants, needs to change so i don't give a fuck about one piece of coal mining legislature
Our fate is sealed
Nathan Carter
Fuck off you inbred monkey-brained faggot
Carson Rivera
Sure, MOST LIKELY, but really all it would take for a meltdown is disrupting the cooling towers and somehow making sure they can't fix it. If fuel rods are exposed and go uncooled for too long you WILL get a meltdown. It's not necessary about them blowing something up.
Bentley Rogers
Coal is horrible. Terrible for the people who mine it, terrible for areas where it is mined or transported, terrible for the people and environment where it is burned.
>We've been using coal in america for a century and it never got like that.
It used to be like that everywhere people lived and worked.
Leo Morgan
Nope
Christopher Hughes
>Sup Forums cheers fucking up the planet because muh partisan politics
Sad!
Ian Morgan
In a few hundred years humanity will be swept away by fucking tsunamis and supervolcanoes anyway so why not more jobs?
Ayden Butler
>Make argument with data from 1950
>Doesn't realize that commercial photovoltaics didn't exist for more than half that time
>Libtard logic
Another relevant detail is that your pretty little data set neglects to mention are the massive federal loans made to Green Energy companies, which despite (((media))) claims to the contrary, tend to default at an alarmingly high rate.
Joshua Hughes
Sauce on the tsunami-volcano apocalypse?
Brayden Edwards
Not that other guy, but are you claiming we don't subsidize the fossil fuel industry?
Not even saying that's a bad thing to do, just that the argument that "subsidies = worthless industry that can't sustain itself" is flawed
Hunter White
Lol I'm making a point that enviro-fags already think the world's ending with gas, oil and jet fuel in the sky 24/7. Just going by there logic.
Austin Hernandez
Well if thats the case. Better get jumping on that Popular Vote ammendment there. Or have you lazy fucks just given up on that too?
Nolan Baker
No, we cheer for this because Sup Forums is a pro-climate-change board.
You'll never guess why.
>If fuel rods are exposed and go uncooled for too long you WILL get a meltdown.
Brandon Richardson
It won't work unless the west stops accepting migrants.
Cameron Anderson
>animals meat is terrible, terrible for the butches, terrible for areas where its slaughtered, terrible for aniamsl and the environment
Jaxson Jones
The solution to global warming is fast fission reactors.
The green lobby unfortunately despises nuclear. Also building reactors is a long process with uncertainty on returns due to potential government intervention by green politicians.
Kayden Rogers
How are you arguing that we subsidize it?
I hear this a lot, but given that no one can ever cite specifics (contrast to, say, Solyndra or the massive loan program it benefited from, or the Federal Energy Tax Credits), I've come to dismiss it as leftists, say, calling normal cost deductions a 'subsidy'.
Beyond that, if fossil fuels are subsidized, I'd be skeptical of a claim that they receive a net benefit from Government involvement. That is, that the subsidies help them more than the EPA hurts them. Remember Obongo's ban on Gulf drilling?
And then you have Denmark, hailed as a leader in clean energy, where customers now pay more in special tariffs and fees to fund green energy than they do for the power itself.
We're screwed if we don't stop accepting migrant regardless. Either we win, and governments that aren't moved by dead niggers are in power and they don't care about a larger pile of dead apes, or we get overrun by the Third World Hordes, but some of them die at home.
And when our governments collapse under the weight of their rent-seeking, they'll all die of Vitamin D deficiency, so at least we have that to look forward to.
Are those breeder reactors?
Adam Stewart
They tried cold fusion in the 80s. Would love to see them try that again. If they could pull it off and make it more efficient cheaper than oil it would stop environmentalists from regulating every godamn thing they can because they'd have no excuse.