Reminder that the idea that White/European identity (broadly) is LITERALLY NAZI GERMANY is
THE
SINGLE BIGGEST PROPAGANDA VICTORY
OF THE ANTIWHITE LEFT
OF ALL TIME
And if you perpetuate that idea by being a Hitler fanboy, shame on you, you're helping to speed up the death of our race.
Prove me wrong,
protip: You won't be able to
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>hibla was ebul meme
Go back to plebbit where spineless twats like you belong
omg too soon senpai
I didnt even say that retardface
>hibla hurtz da alt-right
Same shit, fuck yourself you weak fuck and go back.
>err1 who not NS is le weak and/or le r3dd1t
le no, you're dumb
>hibla hutz owr cauze
>falling for kike propaganda
Sure smells like plebbit in here m8, grow up. Hitler was a sage and brought the kikes lies and tricks to the forefront of his society and once dealt with, that society prospered like no other during its time.
But nahhh
>hibler ebul killed innozents
>hibler ruined nationalism.
You stupid faggot that was (((them))) and no you're protecting (((their))) narrative.
Go. The. Fuck. Back.
More people are waking up to the idea that theyve been brainwashed by the jews and Hitler was a hero
Soon the world will all understand
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more crap, you suck, PR matters and yea the public is stupid and literally believes Hitler is the devil.
You think it's so, so obvious that PR and propaganda is the wrong way to go. Why? That's how you win. Up to now there has not been massive numbers of people even doing "muh PR" as you'd call it.
Also disprove my OP.
>being this utopian
>hur dur nazis are edgy
nah, most tolerant people ever
such a beautiful photo based user
it's not about the facts, it's about perception
politics is all about perception
Hitler won by convincing most of the country that he was great and that his party was great. Hitler wouldn't have used Satan as an icon for NS, either. To people today, Hitler is Satan.
You can rationalize it away all you like, but you're cvcking yourself
>PR matters
>caring about PR
Plebbit you're not fooling anyone. Sup Forums is and always has been a NatSoc board and pushing overtons window further right means embracing NatSoc and owning it rather than cower away from it like the bleeding heart liberal faggot you cleary are.
The solution is to make the public smarter, not to allow idiots to decide the truth.
>all this baseless plebbit propaganda on Sup Forums
What are you doing here you dumb cunt?
The truth is Sup Forums has been infested with shills from stormfront and TRS and shitholes like those for so long that the native Sup Forums edgelord population latched onto it completely and now calls any reasonable person a leftist shill.
>Kayakrect The Record
>is at this again
Have you not noticed that we actually live in THE CURRENT YEAR
>storm-x
>>>>>>>>>>>/plebbit/
Go back faggot
s a ge
Are you disavowing Henry Ford?
Why do you H8 America
holy shit you're stupid, yea a lot of people who think being literal natsoc larpers have always been on here. What, it's impossible for me to have been on Sup Forums for 2 yrs and not natoc? And of course propaganda/PR matters. Successful propaganda is what wins in politics. Even a dictator who comes to power through military violence needs some popular support and to look good.
Also what Sup Forums is or isn't doesn't matter. Winning White nationalism matters. You dumbass you're helping the antiwhite agenda by keeping Hitler alive. You're going to realize one day what a huge mistake you've made.
Hitler is 99.9% only a leftwing antiwhite weapon in 2017. Wake up and smell the roses.
Nationalism is not contingent on Hitler, stop making it so. If Hitler did or did not "kill 6 million jooz" should mean fuckall to us. The fact that we think Hitler's character or conduct should decide the future fate of nationalism is literally a cultural marxist idea, as already mentioned.
You're unwittingly advancing the leftwing narrative.
Not sure what your point is here. The point is that the left has sold the idea "WHITE IDENTITY=HITLER" and these idiots have taken it on board totally. We need to kill the leftwing garbage not give it new life.
>le if someone is too leftwing they must be from another website meme
nah. Also he said STORMFRONT that's a site, dumbo.
Unless you're economically left, racially right go back to plebbit
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I am not that is really matters. Anyone can post here. I'm a White nationalist. Hitler/NS all that baggage needs to fucking die. I have yet to hear any good reasoning other than "LOL U WANT TO PR HAHA THATS DUMB" or "THEY'LL CALL U NAZI ANYWAY". Both shitty and irrational.
As far as I can tell, you just want to be an edgelord and shock society, not change society to become prowhite. Gas yourself m'nigga
>whats, its impossible
Yes, you're clearly cognitively incapable of seeing the truth.
>PR matter
Tell that to Pewdie seeing his subscribers have been increasing since he started naming the kike.
>doesn't matter
Tell that to the ADL who declared pepe a hate symbol, faggot.
>helping antiwhite
well m8, you're helping the kikes by hiding and trying to minimize the influence his words bring to the uninitiated, like yourself.
>Hitler
>left wing
Plebbit, NatSoc is 3rd position, start educating yourself rather than spouting your ignorant propaganda you've gleemed from your shit-tier education and Hollywood.
Grow up.
>on Sup Forums 2017 era
>stormfront is still le ebul boogy man
Fuckn laffen here you Yank dog, stormfront is irrelevant and only kike shills and plebbitards use the site as ammunition, you're not a kike or a plebbitard, are you?
>Tell that to Pewdie seeing his subscribers have been increasing since he started naming the kike.
omg you're seriously that dumb?
I was just complaining about this before to my friend. This is so dumb. I knew an Indian guy who made edgy holocaust jokes, it means nothing. Grow a brain. Pewds actually apologized for the joke, and he didn't "name the kike". How fucking stupid are you?
>this kike still desperately well poisoning
Everything you've build will burn in the coming decade, cast down scum. You will turn from your cursed demon apparition in a desperate attempt to rekindle the love the Lord gave upon you that you returned with scorn and hubris.
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>that dumb
>still falling for le ebul hibla ruins nationalism meme
You really are that fuckn dumb m8.
>calling me a kike
Was making criticism of Jewry look retarded and irrational- PART OF YOUR PLAN?
Good job, idiot.
again I didn't say that, but you natsocks have no good arguments.
>didn't say that
>still falling for the Hitler is bad PR meme
m8, you don't need to say it. It is quite obvious from your posts that you haven't spent a proper hour of your pathetic life looking into and analysing the propaganda yyou're postings. You plebbitards aare the worst form of spineless cancer this board has had to deal with, pathetic fucks.
more strawmanning, nil argumenti
I and millions of others do not see it that way OP, we see the communists and Jews as the literal enemies.
>he thinks you have to be natsoc/love hitler to be JQ wise and hate commies
nope, nope. not. no.
Hitler made some mistakes and he is certainly not my idol. But there are a ton of lies being spread about him and his regime. You tell me we should be more tolerant to established lies, I say they are still lies, they need to die and I will fight against them. I am sorry (or not) if that hurts your agenda. But that is the only way.
The truth shall prevail.
>more propaganda
>zero substance
I cringe when a basic bitch American pretends to understand Europe and its history
I completely agree with you. I do not think that Hitler was history's most evil man like the (((mainstream media))) tells us, but at the same time, I am not an unquestioning Nazi fan-boy. There were various things that the Nazi Party could have done better.
right because Dutch people totally understand all of European history better than Americans, just..... yea right, what a bunch of bullshit.
Also ad hominem not an argument checkm8 duitsmann
>t.basic bitch american
op you're right but what does my personal opinion of hitler matter if i understand that he's used as a meme that Sup Forums is merely reappropriating?
>dat lack of proof or even semblance of argument
keep on keepin user, 10/10 lmfao
um because a lot of people don't use him as a meme, they think unironic Hitler idolization is the way to go, which is fucking retarded.
Whether or not Hitler was good or bad should not be the basis of our ideology. The left has memed neo nazis into existence.
Neo Nazis = people who make white identity all about muh Hitler and muh reich. Shiggy.
>only Europeans can read books
oh I guess living in Nederlands means you absorb your culture and that means you can read books about history better
wew
Stormweebs assemble!!!
like
if our naive understand of white identity is through adolf hitler isn't it important that we re-examine what we know about hitler to overcome the self loathing?
hitler is an integral part of Sup Forums but maybe not for the reasons you're thinking he is
>um because a lot of people don't use him as a meme, they think unironic Hitler idolization is the way to go, which is fucking retarded.
and i agree that is a problem. but read my other post. what is the best way to reintroduce people to white identity than from their own understanding of it?
i'm not a hitler fanboy i think that only happens to people who actually don't go outside and i honestly don't think they hurt us that much.
>what is the best way
what is a better way
>unwittingly advancing the left wing narrative
Kek. Do stormtards not understand that that's what they are doing?
>racially right
The fuck does that even mean? Traditionally the left has been every bit as racist as the right
>are you seriously that dumb?
Do you even need to ask?
>The left has memed neo nazis into existence.
Americans did actually.
Americans and Soviets are obsessed with the Nazis. Americans also hate the idea of the ethnostate and spread the propaganda about it to Western Europe too.
Neo-Nazis are a fringe group without any significance, blaming them for what the American Judeophil elite have been doing for a century is incredibly insincere.
What you are talking about is the demonization of the racial-ethnic bind. It has very little to do with Hitler and nothing with the Nazis, but everything with the American right.
Why do people see Hitler as the devil?
Stalin was evil says the American right.
Stalin was kinda wrong says the American left, BUT socialism itself is a good idea.
Hitler was the devil himself, says the American left.
Hitler was the devil himself, says the American right.
Nationalism? It's evil. Agrees the American right.
Civic nationalism, religious fanaticism, regressive right-wing rhetoric made a demon out of Hitler, while lefties sort of stuck together at least to defend the basic leftist ideals.
The USA elite did everything in their power to destroy nationalism, and in turn we got the current world state.
No you're right just read some Wikipedia articles about America now lemme explain to you how Americans think common core cuck
>propaganda your posting
You are more of an ideologue than him. Just because you subscribe to alternative propaganda, doesn't mean it is right.
>this copypasta over and over again
>different flags every time
wew CTR
"Hitler failed so let's delete him so we just do what he did in the future"
>Americans did actually.
like I said the left
the American left of the 1950s-1960s had a huge global impact, I'm not going to lie about it. I know that my country has helped to fuck up the world.
I just think that focusing on Hitler is as stupid as a leftist today focusing on Stalin. It makes you look retro and weird.
WATCHA DOING DER RABBI ??!!
I'd read some books about the Netherlands but you're so insignificant and lame all I could find was a guide to Tulips
literally a completely new and random post and I've posted about this topic before, all as an American,
>le "err1 i disagree with is a liar/shill meme
stupid
>completely new
>word for word copypasta
xDDD
This is a classic slide thread.
Ignore this kike, he is not interested in any conversation.
>Nationalism? It's evil. Agrees the American right.
Not really.
If you mean raw racial nationalism, yes, but that's because Americans are brainwashed. The same can be said for most Europeans and Australians, too. No one held a gun to the heads of Swedes and forced them to believe nationalism is evil.
You're just very simplistic in your view of history, m8, for real.
He's arguing against unrepentant stormtards, who would lick Hitlers feet if the were told too. Hitler is a pretty interesting guy, and perception of him is somewhat skewed. That doesn't make everything he said or did right. Truth supersedes ideology.
>Stalin was kinda wrong says the American left
Huh?
>le retard post
You're just making antisemitism look stupid with this kind of thing. Accusing people who you disagree with of being liars or Jews makes nationalism look so stupid.
Fuck off, you tool.
prove it
My trips don't lie
>another retard post appears
>le "you are a kike for disliking muh Hitler" meme
Ur dumb m8
This guy gets it. I don't hate Hitler. I don't want him to be demonized. But also making him the posterchild icon of your entire worldview is self defeating faggotry.
It would be like a medieval Christian in Western Europe championing their political worldview through defending the character of Satan. People see Hitler as the devil incarnate, today. That's the reality we have to contend with.
The left doesn't waste time trying to get everyone to like and respect Stalin and Lenin and Mao. A lot of leftists quietly like Mao, Lenin and Stalin, and don't make it a political issue. The White nationalist rightwing has to be open even to normal people who may think Hitler is evil. No need to "correct" them.
>le even dumber post
>not sure if serious
hmmmmm ok
Checking your own trips is pathetic. Why do you need repeating numbers to justify your opinion?
What are they sliding exactly? Am I white Sup Forums threads? Sup Forums is a shitshow thanks to commies, storm-commies, redditards and ancap autists.
>No one held a gun to the heads of Swedes and forced them to believe nationalism is evil.
No, you just destroyed every other nation around them, who did believe in nationalism.
lol it's kind of pathetic and sad, and frustrating
My hope is that most of them are youngish and a lot can grow out of it.
Creating a boogeyman out of anyone is a mistake. You can't comprehend the motives of a monster.
We need to break the naive and *leftwing created* assumption that White identity is automatically Hitlerian, user. Good post, btw.
mate had germany won europe would be white
i mean come on
>he actually believes this shit
Whatever, it's not like I personally did it. I was born into a post-"muh racism is baaayd" America. People adopted antiracism because it was fashionable, not because they were literally forced to.
Antiracism to most people is just about "being nice". People didn't realize that it means giving up your country.
I have seen Hungarians on here say anyone can be Hungarian. You blaming and hating America ain't gonna fix this problem.
Yes and no. I mean. "Hitler wuz racist" is not a good argument for colonization of Europe by non-Europeans. Hitler was not evil incarnate, but he was also not Europe incarnate.
You know?
Like, we need to let go of that past and move on. There's not a better way to say it.
We need to forget about WW2 and Hitler, entirely. The narrative is weaker than ever. We need to let the power of WW2 die and become as nothing as the punic war is now.
They do understand. They know the left chimps out the moment hitler is mentioned. All they need to do is let the left wreck shit until fascism is justified. Commies and storm-commies are two sides of the same shit covered coin.
I can respect the non hitler worshipping white nationalists for defending their race in the here and now. Those that are still trying to advance a dead narrative should be shunned.
if germany had won hitler would be importing islam
Yup. And I have come to the conclusion that I can't be nice to them anymore. I used to think "well they are not bad people" but they ruin everything.
The AltRight used to be a totally new and awesome movement but it was successfully hijacked by neo nazi types, basically. Not even fully, but to a big extent.
It's sad to see these people who just want to larp as hardcore ruining everything.
Hopefully the pendulum will stop swinging, but order takes real effort. Chaos on the other hand is easy to create. Ideologues are just lazy retards
If you don't know Dutch history then you can't really know your own either so thanks for exposing yourself
every time i fart under the covers i imagine i know a bit of dutch history
>tfw OP demands proof yet provides none of his own
Laffen
i think you're just arguing for arguments sake at this point
Very true. It must be really easy to just repeat your fucking political memes and feel comradeship with the other people who follow suit.
Personally, I painstakingly check all of my ideas and work them out in detail. It is a personal journey towards whatever is true and correct, working my way through all kinds of possibilities. I can fully defend my entire worldview in the most minute of details. I don't understand people who can just rush into a full ideology without being openminded. The closedminded cultlike attitude of the larpers is very disturbing and inhumane, and really un-European, in a way. It is a total betrayal and departure from the traditional course of European history. It is a sort of barbaric 3rd world type of thinking, to my mind. Sorry to ramble.
What do you mean pendulum swinging btw? Specifically.
>le Degrelle telling us NS was le good ideology meme I've seen 100 times already
ok.
What do you want proof of? You never requested any.
any proof for anything*
The shift from left to right. It shouldn't be too much of a problem, but the left is acting undignified and doubling down on their rhetoric,exactly as expected, which pushes people further right.
>I think user should value truth over PR at this point
>what proof
Prove Hitler is ruining white nationalism?
Show me that all the times Trump was called literally Hitler that affected his campaign in a serious way?:
Listen, m8, its about time you wake up out of your dream state and realize that by defending and downplaying the Führer's words you are playing directly into (((their)))hands and are a threat to White Nationalism and Truth in all its states.
You lack the conviction to stand by the Führers words due to perceived PR issues, you are a spineless nu-mal faggot straight from plebbit, go the fuck back.
you're being obtuse. hitler was not a special guy he accomplished special things. we don't need to only look to hitler to find the roadmap of white identity. we were born with it. hitler is an important learning tool but he's dead and he isn't coming back.
I'm good with people being pushed further to the right, personally. I don't think that larpage is actually more rightwing, it's just more.careless or something.
Trump didn't try to defend hitler, idiot, if he had that would have made the attacks on him saying he's like Hitler effective. Trump is practically proof that if you don't larp, being called "literally Hitler" won't matter.
Also this isn't something that can be proved 1 + 1 = 2 style. Different things work for different people. You need to convert people to White nationalism. If you can't see that the Neo Nazi stereotype hasn't hurt that process of conversion, I don't know what to tell you.
>le non-NS people are weak spineless LGBTQBBQ meme
No dude. The fuhrer's words aren't our gospel, christ fucking jesus. I don't care what he said. I don't care if Hitler wrote and spoke the most beautiful works of human creativity ever to be written and uttered.
Hitler means nothing. We should be WNist whether or not he had ever even been born. You're making your ideology contingent (i.e. fancy ass way of saying based on) someone.
White identity is not Hitlerism
We don't need that shit to defend our people
The left wants to paint all nationalism as "le Hitler", it's obvious. They are delighted to discover some link to "Nazis" that any rightwinger has. The reason why WNism is taboo today is because the left successfully connected the idea of White identity to Hitler. This was a propaganda victory. They got normal White people in the 1950s to think that defending their group interests was automatically the same as siding with a guy their dad helped defeat 5-10 yrs ago. Good job Neo Nazis, you fucking idiots.
A world in which no White advocate had ever positively mentioned Hitler would be a better world for White people. But no, people like you exist, so the media has an easy job of painting White identity as "Nazi". Daym
You're helping to push a leftwing idea, ironically.
>inb4 this totally common sense and reasonable post is interpreted as ADL Rabbi propaganda
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I guess I have to find a new home where I can be a "edgy nazi".
Nah, by the looks of this thread, you've got plenty of company here. Stick around, user, you may yet grow out of your edgelordism.
i think i felt something like a sense of persecution that this other user might be feeling when i started reading your post, but now i'm sure you and i are on the same page
australia user what do you guys learn about hitler in school? i can imagine it's very different than from what americans learn esp since like 2% of our population is jewish
but natsoc is the only true path forward.
Me too. I think we need to stop short of fascism. Its a great wartime ideology. In peacetime it can cannibalize a country, though.
I'm honestly trying to help these people. Look, Hitler isn't the devil, but also we have to realize that he isn't going to go over with people.
Stalin has had an insanely huge influence on the left, by the way, but that is mostly denied or ignored.
Imagine for a second if the right ran the media and 24/7 put out propaganda about how much the left loves Stalin. Then it would be a real issue for them. We have to deal with the world as it is. The left and the media wants us to be a Nazi stereotype and wants to associate us with Hitler.
Don't give them what they want. Don't spend time attacking Hitler, either, but don't be publicly PRO HITLER either.
>one true path
none such thing, user.
Basically fascism was the emergency switch that a bunch of European countries pushed because of the powerful, evil rising tide of Stalinist Soviet influence. We have to teach history in a new way: focus on how shitty and scary the interwar (bet. ww1 and ww2 period) was. Right now, people only focus on "OMG LE NAZIS AROSE AND IT WAS BAAAYD".
The reality:
Europe was being torn up by the threat of communism, millions of people were being slaughtered and sucked into the Soviet sphere. Fascism was the response. Was fascism evil? No. But is fascism a stand alone thing that we should praise? No. We need to understand Hitler and fascism in context, and also tell people a lot more about communism. (I know, a lot of commies were Jews).
Hope this post clears shit up. We need to teach people to view the world differently. That's what the left did. It's why they won.